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    Quote Originally Posted by ThunderDan View Post
    Here are Matt Cassel's 1st 5 games as Brady's replacement in 2008:
    13/18, 152 yards 1TD NE Points for Game - 17
    16/23, 165 yards NE Points for Game - 19
    19/31, 131 yards 1TD, 1INT NE Points for Game - 13
    22/32, 259 yards 1TD, 2INT NE Points for Game - 30
    22/38, 203 yards 1INT NE Points for Game - 10

    Should NE have been looking for a different backup QB after those 5 games?
    This won't ne too hard....hahaha.

    Hey ThunderDan.... after those five games what was their Record with Matt Cassel as their Backup QB and were they losing?

    In The 2008 Season and Week NO. 1 and despite losing Starting QB Tom Brady to a Season ending torn ACL and MCL and Backup QB Matt Cassell coming on to replace Brady the Patriots won the game against the KC Chiefs by a score of 17-10.

    Week 2: The New England Patriots defeat the New York Jets by a score of 19-10. Season Record is now 2W - 0L.

    Week 3: The Patriots suffer a terrible loss to the Miami Dolphins by a score of 38-13. Big Deal their HC id Bill Belichick and their Bye Week is in Week 4....loads of time to Re-Load. ....Season Record 2W - 1 L.

    Week 4: Bye Week

    Week 5: How well did the Patriots respond on a Road Game? Well not too bad with [B]a 30-21 win over the San Francisco 49ers.The Patriots Season Record goes to 3 W-1 L. It's OK and after a tough first game of a two game Western Road Swing..

    Week 6: Work to do as the Patriots drop this 2nd game in a row on the Road (and it's difficult to play out West on the Road).At San Diego the Final Score was Chargers 30 - Patriots 10. The Season Record now falls to 3 W - 2 L.

    Week 7: Back Home after going 1-1 on the Road and their Season Record at 3-2 the NE Patriots Blow Out the Denver Broncos by a score of 41-7.

    Their Season Record goes to 4 W - 2 L....piece of cake !


    Week 8: The Patriots keep rolling defeating the RAMS by a score of 23-16 to push their record without Tom Brady to 5 W - 2 L.

    Things were going very well for the New England Patriots without the GREAT Tom Brady. The QB who will be deemed by a majority as the Greatest QB to ever play the game of football.

    Despite finishing the regular season with an 11–5 record, the Patriots did not qualify for the playoffs. They were the first 11-win team since the expansion to a 12-team playoff in 1990 to not make the playoffs.


    ThunderDan do you want to try to make some other point?
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    Quote Originally Posted by woodbuck27 View Post

    ThunderDan do you want to try to make some other point?
    What point do you think I am trying to make? Because you completely missed it the first time you responded.
    But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

    -Tim Harmston

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThunderDan View Post
    What point do you think I am trying to make? Because you completely missed it the first time you responded.
    You just keep being you and believing what you believe.

    If that works for you ...awesome.


    What I wouldn't give to have you on my Poker Table.hahaha

    Easy Money ... Bank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by woodbuck27 View Post
    You just keep being you and believing what you believe.

    If that works for you ...awesome.


    What I wouldn't give to have you on my Poker Table.hahaha

    Easy Money ..Bank.
    When you have a WSOP final table and over $200,000 in live tournament cashes I'll let you play in my home game.

    Does it make it better because it is a different color and size?
    But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThunderDan View Post
    When you have a WSOP final table and over $200,000 in live tournament cashes I'll let you play in my home game.

    Does it make it better because it is a different color and size?
    hahaha Your money = Easily mine (and Texas Holdem'....a LOCK.)

    You need to have it between the ears Sonny, You need to be able to compete.

    You = 'No Contest'.
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    I'm coming out to Maine next summer for a conference. Maybe we could meet somewhere out there and play $50/$100 NLH with a $10,000 buy-in heads-up.

    Not worth my time or money to take less than 10k from you.
    But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThunderDan View Post
    I'm coming out to Maine next summer for a conference. Maybe we could meet somewhere out there and play $50/$100 NLH with a $10,000 buy-in heads-up.

    Not worth my time or money to take less than 10k from you.
    Will your shit - bullshit smell any differently in Maine than in Wisconsin?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThunderDan View Post
    I'm coming out to Maine next summer for a conference. Maybe we could meet somewhere out there and play $50/$100 NLH with a $10,000 buy-in heads-up.

    Not worth my time or money to take less than 10k from you.
    Quote Originally Posted by woodbuck27 View Post
    Will your shit - bullshit smell any differently in Maine than in Wisconsin?
    I'll take that as a No.
    But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThunderDan View Post
    I'll take that as a No.
    I'm being a really nice Guy and offering you 'the Mercy Rule'.

    ThunderDan I would do to you the same as I've done to over the TOP way too many:

    Swollow your chips $Cash$ on a Poker Table.

    You would simply be ' the Chump ' to me Sonny. Thst is NO BS. Your a certain Mark...I'd own you ThunderDan.

    I know my skills and playing Poker are strong. I have too much faith in my intelligence and what playing Poker very well overall means

    Your far too young and too inexperienced and certainly not smart enough to ever survive me on a Poker Table.

    You would end up one very frustrated and broken young man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by denverYooper View Post
    M3 is safe. He's done enough over his career to earn a pass for struggling with his starting QB out.
    Don't you think struggling without Aaron Rodgers shows that MM is actually a poor coach? We all know how good Rodgers is, so if MM can't win a game without him, couldn't any coach in the NFL do that?

    Quote Originally Posted by mraynrand View Post
    When the opposing team never punts it's pretty easy not to heap the bulk of the blame on your marginal QB.

    In fairness, other than red zone efficiency Detroit's offense is pretty good. But the Packer defense made them look great. The Packer D has had two terrible games in a row. But it was against teams with pro bowl QBs.
    And you have to beat those pro bowl QBs eventually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by channtheman View Post
    Don't you think struggling without Aaron Rodgers shows that MM is actually a poor coach? We all know how good Rodgers is, so if MM can't win a game without him, couldn't any coach in the NFL do that?



    And you have to beat those pro bowl QBs eventually.
    Isn't it fun to debate with 'The men From Madison'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by channtheman View Post
    And you have to beat those pro bowl QBs eventually.
    The defense isn't good enough to beat them without an offense able to apply some pressure by scoring points. Packers need to put up or shut up on both sides of the ball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThunderDan View Post
    Here are Matt Cassel's 1st 5 games as Brady's replacement in 2008:
    13/18, 152 yards 1TD NE Points for Game - 17
    16/23, 165 yards NE Points for Game - 19
    19/31, 131 yards 1TD, 1INT NE Points for Game - 13
    22/32, 259 yards 1TD, 2INT NE Points for Game - 30
    22/38, 203 yards 1INT NE Points for Game - 10

    Should NE have been looking for a different backup QB after those 5 games?
    Moot point, NE had a defense. GB has none, not kind of one, NONE!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rutnstrut View Post
    Moot point, NE had a defense. GB has none, not kind of one, NONE!!!
    Finally, someone who gets my point.

    The D is horrible and it isn’t reasonable for a backup QB to step in and run the O like the starter. It will take weeks for the O and Hundley to get to be a smooth running unit.

    NE had a D that could step up and win games. We don’t. Losses will pile up but I am still not going to judge Hundley harshly yet. He needs more time to be honestly evaluated.
    But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThunderDan View Post
    Finally, someone who gets my point.

    The D is horrible and it isn’t reasonable for a backup QB to step in and run the O like the starter. It will take weeks for the O and Hundley to get to be a smooth running unit.

    NE had a D that could step up and win games. We don’t. Losses will pile up but I am still not going to judge Hundley harshly yet. He needs more time to be honestly evaluated.
    I agree with you that it's really too soon to be judging Hundley. I can and will however harshly judge the rest of the team and coaching staff which yet again has failed to step up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobblehead View Post
    I have defended TT and M3 often against the charge that they are lucky morons who landed Arod... ...maybe it is time to get Rodgers the coach and GM he deserves.
    It is time.
    One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
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