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    Quote Originally Posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
    TO could still do pretty well in the league today. What's the difference between TO and Dez? Dez is slightly less of a PITA. I'd take him in a second. LMAO - he is a MUCH better and more talented player than Adams.
    He has been outperformed by adams in every possible metric the last 2 years. Adams is younger and played this season with a QB that doesn't belong in the league as a backup.
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    I got a plan. Lets trade a high pick for sheldon richardson in a win now move. I recall that had many on this site convinced that the Seahawks were superbowl bound. #winnow #schniederisagenius #kindofmoveTTnevermakes
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobblehead View Post
    He has been outperformed by adams in every possible metric the last 2 years. Adams is younger and played this season with a QB that doesn't belong in the league as a backup.
    Meh, I don't put a lot of stock in that. Different offenses, different situations, etc. Do you honestly think Adams, a slow receiver that's not overly physical, is a better receiver than grown-ass Dez, who's bigger, stronger, faster? The eye test tells me not a chance. But my eyes have been wrong before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
    Meh, I don't put a lot of stock in that. Different offenses, different situations, etc. Do you honestly think Adams, a slow receiver that's not overly physical, is a better receiver than grown-ass Dez, who's bigger, stronger, faster? The eye test tells me not a chance. But my eyes have been wrong before.
    Did your eyes see Dez not perform this year or last? Sometimes players just get old fast.

    See Nelson, Jordy
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    Quote Originally Posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
    grown-ass Dez
    I agree that Dez is a grown ass.
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    Dez and Jordy aren't comparable athletes in my opinion. Dez is 4 years younger than Jordan Nelson. Agree to disagree I guess. Dez is a physical specimen - Jordy is not as freaky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Did your eyes see Dez not perform this year or last? Sometimes players just get old fast.

    See Nelson, Jordy
    Yep. Dez missed 10 games in 2015-2016 due to injuries. He played in all 16 games this year, but did not resemble the 2014 Dez. I doubt he gets it back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
    Dez and Jordy aren't comparable athletes in my opinion. Dez is 4 years younger than Jordan Nelson. Agree to disagree I guess. Dez is a physical specimen - Jordy is not as freaky.
    Dez is stronger no doubt. Better attacking and being physical at the point of catch. More of a beast. If Dez were less of a wreck mentally, I'd gladly trade Jordy for him straight up, even with the Rodgers-Nelson connection.
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    Quote Originally Posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
    Meh, I don't put a lot of stock in that. Different offenses, different situations, etc. Do you honestly think Adams, a slow receiver that's not overly physical, is a better receiver than grown-ass Dez, who's bigger, stronger, faster? The eye test tells me not a chance. But my eyes have been wrong before.
    My eyes say Adams has done more on the field by a lot for 2 years running. So, yes, I believe he is better.
    I don't hold Grudges. It's counterproductive.

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    Even the Cowboys biggest homer - Skip Bayless, says that Dez is not worth it anymore.
    All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!

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    That's a fair point all. I guess we'll see. My gut feeling is he will be a beast next year if he has a good QB. He'll be extra motivated to be sure. We shall see. I don't watch much football these days outside of Sunday night so I don't have a strong opinion on it.

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    If he would be willing, I imagine Bryant is a terrifying red zone threat with his ability to come down with the ball. Would make Bubba Franks look pedestrian.



    Speaking of Bubba, did anyone else see that Bubba play from the Eagles? Good ol' Doug Pederson had his TE block then leak into a pattern as slow as molasses. He was wide open due to the threat of the run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
    Dez and Jordy aren't comparable athletes in my opinion. Dez is 4 years younger than Jordan Nelson. Agree to disagree I guess. Dez is a physical specimen - Jordy is not as freaky.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    If he would be willing, I imagine Bryant is a terrifying red zone threat with his ability to come down with the ball. Would make Bubba Franks look pedestrian.



    Speaking of Bubba, did anyone else see that Bubba play from the Eagles? Good ol' Doug Pederson had his TE block then leak into a pattern as slow as molasses. He was wide open due to the threat of the run.
    That 'pattern' was perfected by Ed 'toolbox' West. Bubba could only effect a shallow imitation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Did your eyes see Dez not perform this year or last? Sometimes players just get old fast.

    See Nelson, Jordy
    yes. cowboy nation hasn't been totally happy with him for a while. single covered, doesn't get open, one-trick pony w/bad hands. he'll take a huge pay cut or be released.

    as for Jordy...i give him a pass for this season. he got open a lot but Hundley was...well...you know.

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    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...fl-free-agency

    NFL1000: Early Look at the Top Players in 2018 NFL Free Agency

    NFL1000 SCOUTS ... DECEMBER 8, 2017

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...-board-for-now

    Top 25 free agents of 2018: Quarterbacks top the board (for now)

    By Gregg Rosenthal ...Around The NFL Editor

    Published: Jan. 11, 2018 at 12:44 p.m. Updated: Jan. 14, 2018 at 01:39 p.m. 0 Likes | 0 Comments
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    The Packers have PLENTY of room to sign top quality free agents.

    Code:
    Base Salary Cap: $178,000,000
    Team	CapSpace	EffectCapSpace	#Active Cap Spending	Dead Money
    49ers	$115,944,832	$115,944,832	61	$103,049,029	$15,054,569
    Browns	$109,653,737	$109,653,737	70	$116,984,421	$10,274,802
    Colts	$77,264,402	$77,264,402	64	$115,772,884	$1,800,217
    Jets	$72,646,618	$72,646,618	55	$118,513,011	$2,918,337
    Buccs	$61,458,129	$61,458,129	54	$130,923,033	$814,506
    Texans	$56,642,308	$56,642,308	63	$130,916,868	$390,033
    Vikings	$53,533,143	$52,573,143	49	$137,541,244	$654,816
    Spuds	$52,266,678	$52,266,678	67	$126,716,734	$500,950
    Titans	$49,528,268	$49,528,268	58	$157,634,638	$551,413
    Lions	$46,584,205	$46,584,205	55	$129,130,207	$6,436,899
    Rams	$43,469,419	$43,469,419	51	$136,991,446	$431,754
    Bears	$40,607,467	$40,607,467	51	$143,768,010	$1,233,381
    Bengals	$35,328,993	$35,328,993	64	$152,686,187	$632,363
    Saints	$32,697,386	$32,697,386	64	$138,623,709	$6,965,970
    Bills	$29,418,581	$29,418,581	52	$141,045,590	$18,719,288
    Broncos	$26,773,245	$26,773,245	59	$161,069,049	$365,907
    Chargrs	$24,084,070	$24,084,070	55	$151,814,323	$4,723,657
    Giants	$23,467,537	$23,467,537	63	$154,419,529	$478,255
    Panthrs	$20,305,968	$20,305,968	58	$159,691,844	$2,371,254
    Cowboys	$18,594,447	$18,594,447	54	$153,569,215	$13,711,112
    Packers	$17,389,101	$17,389,101	52	$159,826,884	$4,718,533
    Jaguars	$16,517,319	$16,517,319	66	$188,606,617	$644,803
    Pats	$16,335,489	$16,335,489	52	$161,207,002	$965,423
    Raiders	$14,838,413	$14,838,413	57	$167,948,151	$2,018,441
    Sea	$14,756,861	$12,356,861	46	$159,777,694	$4,012,715
    Falcons	$10,850,622	$10,850,622	51	$165,373,492	$2,378,535
    Ravens	$9,937,893	$9,937,893	57	$169,003,886	$2,333,338
    Cards	$8,714,438	$8,714,438	51	$170,213,859	$673,489
    Dolphin	$8,668,035	$8,668,035	55	$168,124,438	$276,688
    Steeler	($3,080,776)	($3,080,776)	53	$184,165,661	$956,175
    Eagles	($7,435,856)	($7,435,856)	56	$185,322,699	$486,941
    Chiefs	($9,228,655)	($9,228,655)	63	$182,990,482	$5,806,923
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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    Source for previous chart: https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space

    Remember, Rodgers probably gets a new deal this offseason.
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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    John Dorsey resembles Mike Sherman more than Ted Thompson. Dorsey led the Chiefs into the dreaded cap hell, just like Sherman once did with our beloved Pack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    The Packers have PLENTY of room to sign top quality free agents.

    Code:
    Base Salary Cap: $178,000,000
    Team	CapSpace	EffectCapSpace	#Active Cap Spending	Dead Money
    49ers	$115,944,832	$115,944,832	61	$103,049,029	$15,054,569
    Browns	$109,653,737	$109,653,737	70	$116,984,421	$10,274,802
    Colts	$77,264,402	$77,264,402	64	$115,772,884	$1,800,217
    Jets	$72,646,618	$72,646,618	55	$118,513,011	$2,918,337
    Buccs	$61,458,129	$61,458,129	54	$130,923,033	$814,506
    Texans	$56,642,308	$56,642,308	63	$130,916,868	$390,033
    Vikings	$53,533,143	$52,573,143	49	$137,541,244	$654,816
    Spuds	$52,266,678	$52,266,678	67	$126,716,734	$500,950
    Titans	$49,528,268	$49,528,268	58	$157,634,638	$551,413
    Lions	$46,584,205	$46,584,205	55	$129,130,207	$6,436,899
    Rams	$43,469,419	$43,469,419	51	$136,991,446	$431,754
    Bears	$40,607,467	$40,607,467	51	$143,768,010	$1,233,381
    Bengals	$35,328,993	$35,328,993	64	$152,686,187	$632,363
    Saints	$32,697,386	$32,697,386	64	$138,623,709	$6,965,970
    Bills	$29,418,581	$29,418,581	52	$141,045,590	$18,719,288
    Broncos	$26,773,245	$26,773,245	59	$161,069,049	$365,907
    Chargrs	$24,084,070	$24,084,070	55	$151,814,323	$4,723,657
    Giants	$23,467,537	$23,467,537	63	$154,419,529	$478,255
    Panthrs	$20,305,968	$20,305,968	58	$159,691,844	$2,371,254
    Cowboys	$18,594,447	$18,594,447	54	$153,569,215	$13,711,112
    Packers	$17,389,101	$17,389,101	52	$159,826,884	$4,718,533
    Jaguars	$16,517,319	$16,517,319	66	$188,606,617	$644,803
    Pats	$16,335,489	$16,335,489	52	$161,207,002	$965,423
    Raiders	$14,838,413	$14,838,413	57	$167,948,151	$2,018,441
    Sea	$14,756,861	$12,356,861	46	$159,777,694	$4,012,715
    Falcons	$10,850,622	$10,850,622	51	$165,373,492	$2,378,535
    Ravens	$9,937,893	$9,937,893	57	$169,003,886	$2,333,338
    Cards	$8,714,438	$8,714,438	51	$170,213,859	$673,489
    Dolphin	$8,668,035	$8,668,035	55	$168,124,438	$276,688
    Steeler	($3,080,776)	($3,080,776)	53	$184,165,661	$956,175
    Eagles	($7,435,856)	($7,435,856)	56	$185,322,699	$486,941
    Chiefs	($9,228,655)	($9,228,655)	63	$182,990,482	$5,806,923
    Spotrac has them with 21 million cap room. Spotrac has the cap at at 183 million.

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