Rodgers not real confident in changes.

[hoosier]

I agree. Yet I still can't imagine that Rodgers didn't see this coming - or at least know there was a pretty good chance Van Pelt would be gone.

Actually, if you want to prevent more diva behavior, not telling him is probably the right call.

Yup, easier to apologize than "consult" and ignore.

[pbmax]

Yup, easier to apologize than "consult" and ignore.

You don't ask, you give him a heads up and let him vent.

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a change needed to be made, a-rods play has regressed lately and the only other QB on the team sucked when the team needed him

so the QB coach wasn't exactly doing a great job

we don't need a QB coach whos gonna be good buddies with the QBs, we need one that is willing to tell them when they fuck up or aren't doing things the right way.

before van pelt they were trying to get the ball out of a-rods hands in 2.5 seconds. we need to get back to those days

the bad news is that the new guy has been coaching eli the last 2 years and eli has been terrible under him, well not terrible, but not great either

[Joemailman]

a change needed to be made, a-rods play has regressed lately and the only other QB on the team sucked when the team needed him

so the QB coach wasn't exactly doing a great job

we don't need a QB coach whos gonna be good buddies with the QBs, we need one that is willing to tell them when they fuck up or aren't doing things the right way.

before van pelt they were trying to get the ball out of a-rods hands in 2.5 seconds. we need to get back to those days

the bad news is that the new guy has been coaching eli the last 2 years and eli has been terrible under him, well not terrible, but not great either

I think Hundley's lack of being prepared to start when needed is what got Van Pelt fired (if he was fired).

Manning was decent in 2016. This year their WR corp was wiped out by injuries. I wouldn't judge the coach too harshly for his performance. Plus, Manning is 37. He might be on the downside of his career. Mannings passer ratings the past 2 year were 86.0 and 80.4. His career passer rating is 83.5. He's never been in the elite class of QB's despite his 2 rings.

[Pugger]

I think Rodgers was disappointed McCarthy didn't consult with him before he hired Cignetti. #12 was stupid to talk about that to the press no matter what he was asked. Rodgers knew Van Pelt was leaving. Unfortunately for Alex his work with Hundley didn't do him any favors so he didn't get a OC job like he wanted.

[Pugger]

I think Hundley's lack of being prepared to start when needed is what got Van Pelt fired (if he was fired).

Manning was decent in 2016. This year their WR corp was wiped out by injuries. I wouldn't judge the coach too harshly for his performance. Plus, Manning is 37. He might be on the downside of his career. Mannings passer ratings the past 2 year were 86.0 and 80.4. His career passer rating is 83.5. He's never been in the elite class of QB's despite his 2 rings.

No he wasn't fired. McCarthy offered him a contract but Van Pelt wanted to pursue an OC job elsewhere.

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No he wasn't fired. McCarthy offered him a contract but Van Pelt wanted to pursue an OC job elsewhere.

thats what the story from the team and van pelt were

if they wanted to allow van pelt to save some face, this is the story they would use

also, has anyone heard any buzz what so ever about him becoming an OC anywhere? or even any interest?

i call total BS on the story, he was canned

[pbmax]

thats what the story from the team and van pelt were

if they wanted to allow van pelt to save some face, this is the story they would use

also, has anyone heard any buzz what so ever about him becoming an OC anywhere? or even any interest?

i call total BS on the story, he was canned

It was announced before he was fired. It was covered last year. This wasn't something they invented after he was let go.

He WAS not signed to a new deal, so the Packers did decide to move on. Result same but no firing.

[mraynrand]

You don't ask, you give him a heads up

I agree.

But not renewing his contract is a pretty good tell.

[Joemailman]

http://www.espn.com/blog/nflnation/p...t-relationship

Interesting story from last year after beating Dallas in playoffs about the relationship between Rodgers and Van Pelt. Sheds some light about why Rodgers might have reacted as he did.

[Pugger]

thats what the story from the team and van pelt were

if they wanted to allow van pelt to save some face, this is the story they would use

also, has anyone heard any buzz what so ever about him becoming an OC anywhere? or even any interest?

i call total BS on the story, he was canned

Oh, Jason Wilde said Van Pelt didn't sign an extension because he wanted out so he could pursue a OC job elsewhere.

[pbmax]

Oh, Jason Wilde said Van Pelt didn't sign an extension because he wanted out so he could pursue a OC job elsewhere.

That is true, it was reported before this season began. But it doesn't stop Van Pelt from wanting to come back to the Packers when he did not get an OC job.

And McCarthy did not hire him back.

[woodbuck27]

thats what the story from the team and van pelt were

if they wanted to allow van pelt to save some face, this is the story they would use

also, has anyone heard any buzz what so ever about him becoming an OC anywhere? or even any interest?

i call total BS on the story, he was canned

MM wouldn't do anything but tell the exact TRUTH would he !?

The weird thing and Mike McCarthy there are too many in here that actually cannot see that Punk for what he is.

Mike McCarthy and now Mark Murphy and tied to MM are the WEAKEST LINKS.

I hope so very much that Mike McCarthy gets canned after next Season.

[Rastak]

That is true, it was reported before this season began. But it doesn't stop Van Pelt from wanting to come back to the Packers when he did not get an OC job.

And McCarthy did not hire him back.

Yup, them is the facts.

[woodbuck27]

That is true, it was reported before this season began. But it doesn't stop Van Pelt from wanting to come back to the Packers when he did not get an OC job.

And McCarthy did not hire him back.

Nailed it.

So instead Mike McCarthy takes a QB Coach, from of all places, the NY Giants Organization; as if last Season recommended that. As if that Guy has the Resume and credentials for the job as the New Packers QB's Coach.

Ohh MM and he go way back to the 1980's. Not any reason of importance and essential criteria to hire anybody.

MM based that hire on the recommendation of former NY Giants HC Ben McAdoo; who may have embarrassed himself permanently out of any higher Position and Coaching in the NFL again. Ben McAdoo may go down in NFL History as being the NFL Head Coach that made the biggest blunder in NFL History benching Eli Manning for a QB that can't throw dirt.

Frankly Mike McCarthy will soon run out of excuses. He's certainly not fooling Aaron Rodgers.

[ThunderDan]

That is true, it was reported before this season began. But it doesn't stop Van Pelt from wanting to come back to the Packers when he did not get an OC job.

And McCarthy did not hire him back.

If someone did that in my company, I would fire him right away. If we somehow came to a 1 year deal and he was going to look elsewhere, when he couldn’t find a job with another company I wouldn’t take him back.

Van Pelt made it know he wanted to be OC elsewhere. His gamble didn’t work out.

[pbmax]

If someone did that in my company, I would fire him right away. If we somehow came to a 1 year deal and he was going to look elsewhere, when he couldn’t find a job with another company I wouldn’t take him back.

Van Pelt made it know he wanted to be OC elsewhere. His gamble didn’t work out.

Kinda depends on the circumstance, doesn't it?

If the guy is that replaceable, why are you signing two year deals and keeping him from interviewing?

Take him back if he is the best guy, don't replace him with some former Schottenheimer coach.

[ThunderDan]

Kinda depends on the circumstance, doesn't it?

If the guy is that replaceable, why are you signing two year deals and keeping him from interviewing?

Take him back if he is the best guy, don't replace him with some former Schottenheimer coach.

If we rehired him, he would jump at the first opportunity to another team. No chance to develop continuity long-term. Get someone new who will be in GB for a while who wants to be here.

[woodbuck27]

If we rehired him, he would jump at the first opportunity to another team. No chance to develop continuity long-term. Get someone new who will be in GB for a while who wants to be here.

Someone who might have to put up with MM.

DONE!

[ThunderDan]

Someone who might have to put up with MM.

DONE!

This is nonsense. Of course he has to put up with MM. MM is the head coach.