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    Quote Originally Posted by Patler View Post
    I'm not excusing Manning for anything, but Newton has his legal skeletons too, as do far too many pro athletes in all sports.
    Of course Cam was suspended and forced to leave UF, transfer to juco Brinn college. And has had to combat the "thug" stigma his entire career. Peyton got off scott free and is the white bread class act of the NFL.

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    Favre is white and had dick pics out there. His reputation took a hit. This isn't a racial thing, unless you make it one. You can find whatever you're looking for. If you're looking to find racism it's there. If you're looking to find racial connectedness it's there. You want to be angry and bitter about some injustice. That's what you're going to see. That's what you're going to experience. Just let it go. I'm a poor white man. I get no privileges. I work for my money. I probably always will. I can sit and whine about the rich people taking all of the privilege or I can just be happy where I'm at. My choice. You're a miserable whiner because you choose to be. Stay angry, chump. It's your misery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustinHarrell View Post
    Favre is white and had dick pics out there. His reputation took a hit. This isn't a racial thing, unless you make it one. You can find whatever you're looking for. If you're looking to find racism it's there. If you're looking to find racial connectedness it's there. You want to be angry and bitter about some injustice. That's what you're going to see. That's what you're going to experience. Just let it go. I'm a poor white man. I get no privileges. I work for my money. I probably always will. I can sit and whine about the rich people taking all of the privilege or I can just be happy where I'm at. My choice. You're a miserable whiner because you choose to be. Stay angry, chump. It's your misery.
    He told his Daddy that she was sleeping around with black players on the team (zero evidence we are aware of). Also that she was ugly, but had big tits. And had a potty mouth (another charge that suffered under scrutiny). I don't think its yeti trying to find a racial angle here. Peyton was leveraging it to trash her reputation.

    Also, how does Favre's case, one with no tie to racial animus that I am aware of, shed any light on the entirely different nature of Manning's conduct?
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    Quote Originally Posted by yetisnowman View Post
    Of course Cam was suspended and forced to leave UF, transfer to juco Brinn college. And has had to combat the "thug" stigma his entire career. Peyton got off scott free and is the white bread class act of the NFL.
    Actually, all of the felony charges against Newton were dropped after he completed a diversion program. He later chose to transfer rather than face possible suspension for academic violations. Don't forget that the NCAA bent over backward to maintain Newton's eligibility at Auburn for the National Championship game, when it seemed he should have been suspended over recruiting violations. Then, later, (surprise, surprise) they found violations to have occurred only by a school he didn't go to, not by Auburn (wink, wink).

    But don't get distracted by the facts, just go on pretending that Newton hasn't also benefited from the exulted status we give those who entertain us.

    I have no idea what all went on with Manning, but I would point out that the document attached to the article linked above appears to be a brief filed by the plaintiff, therefore the statements in it are the interpretations of the plaintiff, not fact findings by the court. I wouldn't guess what all went on without at least seeing the arguments from both sides. However, it seems unlikely that it is good for Manning, regardless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patler View Post
    Actually, all of the felony charges against Newton were dropped after he completed a diversion program. He later chose to transfer rather than face possible suspension for academic violations. Don't forget that the NCAA bent over backward to maintain Newton's eligibility at Auburn for the National Championship game, when it seemed he should have been suspended over recruiting violations. Then, later, (surprise, surprise) they found violations to have occurred only by a school he didn't go to, not by Auburn (wink, wink).

    But don't get distracted by the facts, just go on pretending that Newton hasn't also benefited from the exulted status we give those who entertain us.

    I have no idea what all went on with Manning, but I would point out that the document attached to the article linked above appears to be a brief filed by the plaintiff, therefore the statements in it are the interpretations of the plaintiff, not fact findings by the court. I wouldn't guess what all went on without at least seeing the arguments from both sides. However, it seems unlikely that it is good for Manning, regardless.
    You are right I was mistaken on the specifics. Those specifics don't negate the fact that Cam faced far more scrutiny for his transgressions. Of course the elite talents are given special treatment. The fact remains that Peyton faced no punishment from the university for his behavior And has maintained a clean image, while Cam hasn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yetisnowman View Post
    Of course Cam was suspended and forced to leave UF, transfer to juco Brinn college. And has had to combat the "thug" stigma his entire career. Peyton got off scott free and is the white bread class act of the NFL.
    I admit I don't follow college football terribly close, but this is the first I heard Cam had any problems. Manning too. But when I was a student athlete tutor in college I heard and saw all kinds of nasty crap, and it wasn't racially or even gender 'excused' - it was generally excused or hidden for the star players and the minor players got the book thrown at them and expelled..
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    Quote Originally Posted by mraynrand View Post
    I admit I don't follow college football terribly close, but this is the first I heard Cam had any problems. Manning too. But when I was a student athlete tutor in college I heard and saw all kinds of nasty crap, and it wasn't racially or even gender 'excused' - it was generally excused or hidden for the star players and the minor players got the book thrown at them and expelled..
    Its absolutely a service provided to star players. The trainer was trying to get one of the lesser players to take the blame. That University and the Governor would have fired the Board of Regents in order to keep Manning.

    I just find Manning's deflections particularly awful. And the use of bigoted slurs to tarnish her reputation is particularly despicable. Though possibly still quite prevalent in his home state.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mraynrand View Post
    I admit I don't follow college football terribly close, but this is the first I heard Cam had any problems. Manning too. But when I was a student athlete tutor in college I heard and saw all kinds of nasty crap, and it wasn't racially or even gender 'excused' - it was generally excused or hidden for the star players and the minor players got the book thrown at them and expelled..
    Yup, and when Newton got in trouble, he was the backup QB, not the starter.

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