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    Quote Originally Posted by mraynrand View Post
    If you investigate it, you might find that the Catholic Church didn't spend much time on the issue until challenged on it. But on your balance sheet will also have to be all the churches that accept gay behavior, and all of culture that has driven the issue for the past decades. And if we're going to go back in time, how far back do we get to go? How about Caligula's Rome? Maybe just concentrate on where we are right now and the trend?
    I agree that the here and now is the best measure. I do not know if I can articulate the target. Everything I write read like a Supreme Court Justice writing about pornography.

    The trend is encouraging though. And despite the utter uselessness of the phrase, we'll know when we get there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    I agree that the here and now is the best measure. I do not know if I can articulate the target. Everything I write read like a Supreme Court Justice writing about pornography.

    The trend is encouraging though. And despite the utter uselessness of the phrase, we'll know when we get there.
    I'm trying to just stick to analysis where we are with respect to the issue in the NFL. If anyone wants to discuss the underlying issue of gay behavior right or wrong, that's for FYI.

    As far as trends go, it is interesting to note that the Duck Dynasty controversy represents the dramatic change in the culture. The issue there was not whether gay behavior is right or wrong, the issue there was whether popular culture (not 'the law') was going to tolerate (not accept) the expression of the viewpoint that gay behavior is sinful (wrong). With the trend among 30 and under being 70-30 in favor of acceptance (not tolerance) of gay behavior, the future seems pretty certain - gay players will be known, accepted and celebrated in the NFL as in society at large.
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