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    Quote Originally Posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
    Bad game. I don't understand how the offense can look so anemic. I really do not understand. They have a great LT, an allegedly great WR (I still don't personally see it), and what everyone says is a great running back (jury still out IMO).

    I simply do not get it at all. I put all of this on ARod, 90%. Sure, the coach may call shitty plays, but surely there is some underneath route happening or he can always audible, etc.

    My questions:

    1. Is ARod a coach killer?

    2. Can ARod be salvaged? His fundamentals are garbage and he seems to think practicing doing goofy ass improv shit is more important than the basics. He is ass at the basics right now. Can he be coached?

    For me it's not about better, it's about different and actually listening. They need ARod to go back to QB 101, 201, 301 instead of focusing on the masters level shit. Who will he listen to and do that for?

    There are two names as coaches that comes to mind, and neither is very likely. Jim Harbaugh, and Peyton Manning.

    Seriously??

    I think AR will be fine with a new coach. We've heard rumors for a couple of years about how Stubby and Rodgers have been at odds. Maybe a new approach and a new voice will be the elixir this offense needs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pugger View Post
    Seriously??

    I think AR will be fine with a new coach. We've heard rumors for a couple of years about how Stubby and Rodgers have been at odds. Maybe a new approach and a new voice will be the elixir this offense needs.
    I hope so. I am concerned that the injuries, particularly the last collar bone break has left permanent damage. Still if a new coach can scheme players open better, there's hope for a solid improvement, even if Rodgers never regains his MVP form.
    Fire Murphy, Gute, MLF, Barry, Senavich, etc!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pugger View Post
    Seriously??

    I think AR will be fine with a new coach. We've heard rumors for a couple of years about how Stubby and Rodgers have been at odds. Maybe a new approach and a new voice will be the elixir this offense needs.
    Yes, seriously. I am to the point where I almost think Aaron is a coach killer. I believe that there is a weird perception here that MM is only sending 4 players deep play after play, which is of course nonsense. I think most of the blame falls on ARod and short of the run-the-table anomaly, he has been basically garbage since they lost to Seattle in the NFCC.

    I am not sure who is a big enough, respected enough coach to reign in ARod. He has no fundamentals and looks lost out there. I am not totally convinced his injuries over the years, 3 "season enders", have taken their toll and he's washed up. His footwork is garbage and the results obviously follow that. Kid likes to practice throwing the ball while falling over and not having the seams, well the dude cannot even sling a basic spiral right now so clearly the advanced phD style practicing isn't paying off.

    Can anyone else remember a 34 year old QB getting their grove back? I guess maybe Rich Gannon but I can't think of anybody else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
    Can anyone else remember a 34 year old QB getting their grove back? I guess maybe Rich Gannon but I can't think of anybody else.
    Warren Moon! Randall Cunningham! Brett Favre!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Jeff George.
    no
    "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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    Quote Originally Posted by mraynrand View Post
    no
    What?

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    1999    32 MIN 12 10 191 329 58.1 2816 23  12 8.6  8.3 14.7 234.7 94.2 28 228 7.25  7.03 7.8   2   4
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    OK, he was 32. But I still think it counts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    What?

    OK, he was 32. But I still think it counts.
    Yeah. I confess, I thought of him too right away because of that '99 season. Then when I looked him up, I saw that by 34 he was beyond finished.
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    John Elway.
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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    Phil Simms
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
    Yes, seriously. I am to the point where I almost think Aaron is a coach killer. I believe that there is a weird perception here that MM is only sending 4 players deep play after play, which is of course nonsense. I think most of the blame falls on ARod and short of the run-the-table anomaly, he has been basically garbage since they lost to Seattle in the NFCC.

    I am not sure who is a big enough, respected enough coach to reign in ARod. He has no fundamentals and looks lost out there. I am not totally convinced his injuries over the years, 3 "season enders", have taken their toll and he's washed up. His footwork is garbage and the results obviously follow that. Kid likes to practice throwing the ball while falling over and not having the seams, well the dude cannot even sling a basic spiral right now so clearly the advanced phD style practicing isn't paying off.

    Can anyone else remember a 34 year old QB getting their grove back? I guess maybe Rich Gannon but I can't think of anybody else.
    Favre.
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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