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    Quote Originally Posted by vince View Post
    Anthony would be great. Not a fan of Darby for the Packers though. He's a finesse corner who's shy to tackle on a team that already has one of those (Shields and Tramon are more willing tacklers than Darby) in a division/conference where that can pose problems. (Detroit, Minnesota, Seattle, etc., etc.) I'd shudder to see Darby trying to get Peterson to the ground. You can maybe get away with one of those guys but two is a bit of a problem I think.
    Man, I've watched tape of Darby and I just don't see the shyness to tackle. He seems very aggressive to me and doesn't hesitate to mix it up. Maybe I'm missing something.
    One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxie the Taxi View Post
    Man, I've watched tape of Darby and I just don't see the shyness to tackle. He seems very aggressive to me and doesn't hesitate to mix it up. Maybe I'm missing something.
    My report is based on what I've seen from a full 10 minutes of "best of" youtube highlights and projecting his play at the NFL level so don't be so quick to second-guess yourself Maxie. I'm seeing a track guy who can get by at the college level on the football field but I'd be concerned will be overpowered at the NFL level, but that don't make me right.

    I want a guy who can hang with the big dogs in the league like Calvin Johnson, Dez Bryant, Julio Jones, etc. - not another speed demon who those guys can push aside at the line or climb up over the top of if they need, and who's a liability coming up against the run at the NFL level. We already got one of those guys on the other side...

    Is it too much to ask for an Al Harris or Richard Sherman kind of guy? Sherman lasted til the 5th round and Harris til the 6th... Those guys are legends but their physicality, length and cover capabilities can't be THAT rare can they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vince View Post
    Is it too much to ask for an Al Harris or Richard Sherman kind of guy? Sherman lasted til the 5th round and Harris til the 6th... Those guys are legends but their physicality, length and cover capabilities can't be THAT rare can they?
    sounds like your looking for the guy I just started doing a little research on:

    Eric Rowe, Utah

    Some think he's a safety, some say CB. The more I read, the more I like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pittstang5 View Post
    sounds like your looking for the guy I just started doing a little research on:

    Eric Rowe, Utah

    Some think he's a safety, some say CB. The more I read, the more I like.
    Yeah. I like Rowe too. Byron Jones and Rowe are the two corners I'd be happiest about landing early. I think they have high ceilings.

    One of Kendricks, Anthony, Perryman to go along with Jones or Rowe and that'd be a pretty amazing start to a draft in my book.

    CB and ILB Rankings at Green Bay's Likely Sweet Spots in the Draft (30 - 130) - CBSSports.com (as of March 30)

    24 CB Johnson Wake Forest - that's a bit too high for him IMO
    30 CB Peters Washington - uncoachable/character risk - Ted takes shots on these guys in the 7th not the first.
    35 ILB Kendricks UCLA - His d-line kept him clean a lot but he's a bigger, faster, stronger version of Nick Barnett. He'd do just fine.
    37 CB P.J. Williams Florida State - Has the physical traits you want but I'm not sure if he can play.
    44 CB Quentin Rollins Miami (Ohio) - smallish, raw, unpolished is what I'm reading. Has only played CB for one year but tough, aggressive, hard worker...
    45 ILB Bernardrick McKinney Texas A&M. I don't like him. He just doesn't seem to me to be an impact player.
    47 ILB Anthony Clemson - He could be the guy Ted jumps on in the first too.
    54 CB Collins LSU - One of the finest physical specimens at CB in the draft but raw and I'm not convinced he has enough athleticism to reach the potential his size and speed might suggest.
    55 CB Jones Connecticut - He's moving up I'd say. Not sure he's gonna get to the 62 spot in the draft.
    66 CB Darby Florida State - Speed to run with guys deep but I fear this guy is too much of a sprinter and not enough of a football player.
    72 CB DJoun Smith Florida Atlantic - 5'10"
    74 ILB Paul Dawson TCU - I like Perryman better than Dawson but they're similar players
    76 CB Alex Carter Stanford - Good well-rounded prospect but not a lot to fall in love with
    87 CB Josh Shaw USC - not good enough to overcome immature and stupid move jumping off balcony or the stupid, immature massive lie trying to cover-up said stupidity.
    89 CB Doran Grant Ohio St. - 5'10"
    93 ILB Perryman Miami - He's moving up too I'd say. No way he makes it to the end of the 3rd.
    101 CB Steven Nelson Oregon St. - 5'10"
    114 CB Ifo Ekpre-OlomuInjured - 5'9" not happening
    118 CB Rowe Utah - I think he's a Day 1 starter and the team that drafts him may never look back.
    128 ILB Heeney Kansas - smallish but fast and way underappreciated. I'd be very tempted to grab Heeney at the end of the 3rd even if they nabbed Kendricks or Anthony earlier. A ten-year contributor in the league whether its on Special Teams and special situations on D or every down on D.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vince View Post
    Yeah. I like Rowe too. Byron Jones and Rowe are the two corners I'd be happiest about landing early. I think they have high ceilings.

    One of Kendricks, Anthony, Perryman to go along with Jones or Rowe and that'd be a pretty amazing start to a draft in my book.

    CB and ILB Rankings at Green Bay's Likely Sweet Spots in the Draft (30 - 130) - CBSSports.com (as of March 30)

    24 CB Johnson Wake Forest - that's a bit too high for him IMO
    30 CB Peters Washington - uncoachable/character risk - Ted takes shots on these guys in the 7th not the first.
    35 ILB Kendricks UCLA - His d-line kept him clean a lot but he's a bigger, faster, stronger version of Nick Barnett. He'd do just fine.
    37 CB P.J. Williams Florida State - Has the physical traits you want but I'm not sure if he can play.
    44 CB Quentin Rollins Miami (Ohio) - smallish, raw, unpolished is what I'm reading. Has only played CB for one year but tough, aggressive, hard worker...
    45 ILB Bernardrick McKinney Texas A&M. I don't like him. He just doesn't seem to me to be an impact player.
    47 ILB Anthony Clemson - He could be the guy Ted jumps on in the first too.
    54 CB Collins LSU - One of the finest physical specimens at CB in the draft but raw and I'm not convinced he has enough athleticism to reach the potential his size and speed might suggest.
    55 CB Jones Connecticut - He's moving up I'd say. Not sure he's gonna get to the 62 spot in the draft.
    66 CB Darby Florida State - Speed to run with guys deep but I fear this guy is too much of a sprinter and not enough of a football player.
    72 CB DJoun Smith Florida Atlantic - 5'10"
    74 ILB Paul Dawson TCU - I like Perryman better than Dawson but they're similar players
    76 CB Alex Carter Stanford - Good well-rounded prospect but not a lot to fall in love with
    87 CB Josh Shaw USC - not good enough to overcome immature and stupid move jumping off balcony or the stupid, immature massive lie trying to cover-up said stupidity.
    89 CB Doran Grant Ohio St. - 5'10"
    93 ILB Perryman Miami - He's moving up too I'd say. No way he makes it to the end of the 3rd.
    101 CB Steven Nelson Oregon St. - 5'10"
    114 CB Ifo Ekpre-OlomuInjured - 5'9" not happening
    118 CB Rowe Utah - I think he's a Day 1 starter and the team that drafts him may never look back.
    128 ILB Heeney Kansas - smallish but fast and way underappreciated. I'd be very tempted to grab Heeney at the end of the 3rd even if they nabbed Kendricks or Anthony earlier. A ten-year contributor in the league whether its on Special Teams and special situations on D or every down on D.
    Good list Vince... those are a lot of the guys I've been looking at for the first few rounds.

    I've backed off Peters altogether - just too much of a risk to take with a high pick. A lot of teams have taken him off their board.

    I think there is a lot of good depth at CB in rds 2-3, and I think LB drops off a bit after the first few guys go. At this point I think I'd like to see us trade back a few spots and target McKinney, Anthony, or Perryman.

    I'd be okay with any of those 3.

    Then in the 2nd target a CB like Rowe, although he'll probably be gone by our pick in the 2nd round.

    I haven't researched everyone on your list there, so I'll go thru them and narrow it down.

    Thanks for the post, it makes it easier to see the names all listed together like that.
    wist

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    Quote Originally Posted by pittstang5 View Post
    sounds like your looking for the guy I just started doing a little research on:

    Eric Rowe, Utah

    Some think he's a safety, some say CB. The more I read, the more I like.
    I like Rowe too... he's a little stiff in the hips, so I don't know if he can play outside, but he's a big, physical DB with range. Would excel in the slot, zone coverage, and run support. He's definitely on my wish list.
    wist

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