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    It would be nice if all the losers who constantly try to sell the meme that football players are more likely to be criminals, etc. would run, as a control, a side-by-side comparison to a random sample of demographically matched men.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mraynrand View Post
    It would be nice if all the losers who constantly try to sell the meme that football players are more likely to be criminals, etc. would run, as a control, a side-by-side comparison to a random sample of demographically matched men.
    Hard to really answer that. How do you match them demographically, by their backgrounds, or by their current status of making roughly $250k/year to millions/year?

    There are around 2,000 currently "in the league" during the season, and another seven-hundred or so in the off-season. Throw in a few hundred part-timers and hangers on. So roughly 3,000 were part of the league at one time or another in 2014. It appears there were 48 arrests in 2014. So 1.6%?

    Are 2% of the highest wage-earners in the US arrested annually? Interesting question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mraynrand View Post
    It would be nice if all the losers who constantly try to sell the meme that football players are more likely to be criminals, etc. would run, as a control, a side-by-side comparison to a random sample of demographically matched men.
    Wouldn't that be a pretty hard match?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mraynrand View Post
    It would be nice if all the losers who constantly try to sell the meme that football players are more likely to be criminals, etc. would run, as a control, a side-by-side comparison to a random sample of demographically matched men.
    The rates have been found to usually be lower. But the demographic match, as Patler alludes to, is tough. They normally go with a similar age or age range. The Duke study below uses figures for 20 year olds.

    https://stat.duke.edu/~dalene/chance...23.nflviol.pdf

    http://sbronars.wordpress.com/2012/1...crime-problem/

    From an outfit who politics probably don't align with yours, here is an overview of those two links and some other material: http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...&gl=us&strip=1
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    The rates have been found to usually be lower. But the demographic match, as Patler alludes to, is tough. They normally go with a similar age or age range. The Duke study below uses figures for 20 year olds.

    https://stat.duke.edu/~dalene/chance...23.nflviol.pdf

    http://sbronars.wordpress.com/2012/1...crime-problem/

    From an outfit who politics probably don't align with yours, here is an overview of those two links and some other material: http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...&gl=us&strip=1
    Yeah, I'm aware of the studies. The point is there is an agenda to making it look like NFL athletes are more likely to be criminals. The usual suspects lined up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mraynrand View Post
    Yeah, I'm aware of the studies. The point is there is an agenda to making it look like NFL athletes are more likely to be criminals. The usual suspects lined up.
    Perception can be skewed even without an overriding agenda. Things that make news often do so in part due to it not being a frequent event, but by making the news people perceive it as a more common event. Added to that you have the phenomena of people liking to see celebrity types knocked off their pedestals.
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