Shazier

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Michele Steele @ESPNMichele
Just got off phone w neurologist Dr Anthony Alessi, who consults w NFLPA, asked him what he makes of Shazier's spinal stabilization surgery. "It's not good...We're not going to see him this season. He may not play football again."

I don't think this tells us anything more, other than confirming that stabilization surgery is not a good sign for his medium to long term playing prospects.

[MadScientist]

Michele Steele @ESPNMichele
Just got off phone w neurologist Dr Anthony Alessi, who consults w NFLPA, asked him what he makes of Shazier's spinal stabilization surgery. "It's not good...We're not going to see him this season. He may not play football again."

I don't think this tells us anything more, other than confirming that stabilization surgery is not a good sign for his medium to long term playing prospects.

The follow-up tweet gives a clearer indication of the potential seriousness of the injury:

Alessi says surgery is needed when the “bones around his spinal cord are dislocated. This is a more severe injury (than a contusion.)”

“This is a much more severe situation on our hands than we thought.”
— Michele Steele (@ESPNMichele) December 7, 2017

Hopefully this was all done in time to save his ability to walk.

Also given this situation, I wonder if Shazier's flipping himself over after the injury did him more damage. There have been other situations where the medical people strap a board to a guy and then flip him over so the possibly damaged spine doesn't get injured further.

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Also given this situation, I wonder if Shazier's flipping himself over after the injury did him more damage. There have been other situations where the medical people strap a board to a guy and then flip him over so the possibly damaged spine doesn't get injured further.

i thought the same thing when i saw the video, he very well could have done major damage rolling over

although, if it was you or me, we probably would have done the same thing. i know with me, the first thing i do automatically when i'm hurt is to stand up and walk around, for some reason i think if i can walk it off then i'm fine. that didn't work too well when i tried to "walk it off", when my foot broke away from the rest of my body a few years back. but it did give me an image i'll never forget

i doubt he even realized there was a problem with his legs until he did roll over

its just scary, and something that could happen to any player on almost any play

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Michele Steele @ESPNMichele
Just got off phone w neurologist Dr Anthony Alessi, who consults w NFLPA, asked him what he makes of Shazier's spinal stabilization surgery. "It's not good...We're not going to see him this season. He may not play football again."

I don't think this tells us anything more, other than confirming that stabilization surgery is not a good sign for his medium to long term playing prospects.

The difference between good and not good in this case won't be measured by how soon (or whether) Shazier returns to the field.