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    Quote Originally Posted by vince View Post
    That's good on Monty and the Packers for taking advantage, but it doesn't seem right that a player can run out of bounds, touch the ball when it remains in bounds, and have it work to pretty big advantage. If it happens another time or two this year, the rules committee might take that one up for review.
    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    I agree. The logic of the rule escapes me.
    It's no different than having a foot out of bounds and catching a pass. It's ruled out of bounds. This one just looked odd because of how much he stretched to bring the ball in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patler View Post
    It's no different than having a foot out of bounds and catching a pass. It's ruled out of bounds. This one just looked odd because of how much he stretched to bring the ball in.
    Not quite. Catching a pass with a foot out of bounds means the receiver is out of bounds and the ball is dead (but not out of bounds). The kick never went out of bounds; intuitively it would make more sense to say the ball is dead where it was first touched by the player whose foot is out of bounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patler View Post
    It's no different than having a foot out of bounds and catching a pass. It's ruled out of bounds. This one just looked odd because of how much he stretched to bring the ball in.
    Well, except that if you're out of bounds on a pass play, the other team doesn't get penalized 38 yards. I really question why a player who is out of bounds should be allowed to touch the ball that is in bounds. Doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    Well, except that if you're out of bounds on a pass play, the other team doesn't get penalized 38 yards. I really question why a player who is out of bounds should be allowed to touch the ball that is in bounds. Doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
    What if he just drifted over to catch the ball on the fly, and did, but with one foot out of bounds? Would you rule that differently? The league wants the ball kept in bounds on kickoffs, and established a very significant consequence for failing to do so. For whatever reason, that was important to them. Smart players narrow the field a few more feet on each side. That's about all it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patler View Post
    The league wants the ball kept in bounds on kickoffs, and established a very significant consequence for failing to do so.
    When the ball is kept in play but the player goes out of play before touching it. I think you're right that there was a reason for it but I don't see the logic of penalizing a team for accurately placing a kickoff near the sideline - but not out of bounds - as a strategy for pinning a team back and helping the coverage team succeed. As you said, the penalty is severe if the ball goes out of bounds, but when it doesn't, the risk-reward should be there.

    What would be the difference in the same situation with a punt? If the returner goes out of bounds and fields the ball it's a dead ball at that spot I believe correct?

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