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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxie the Taxi View Post
    Lastly, I agree with the comments about junking the no huddle. I thought it might make for a good equalizer against Detroit. But they way ARod and Stubby run it ... with all the adjustments checkoffs and hand signals ... the play clock runs down on each play. On top of that, guys are misreading hand signals when they could be really communicating in the huddle.

    Really lastly, I think Stubby has lost his nerve this year. He's playing way too conservative, trying to avoid mistakes and playing it safe (except for his insane 4th down attempts). The Lacey safety play was a perfect example. I know Bart Starr would have been thinking pass in that situation, and he had Hornung and Taylor in the backfield and a Hall of Fame OL.

    Stubby's capable of change but he's like a mule. You might have to get his attention first by cracking a 2x4 over his head.
    If the rookies aren't getting the hand signals right, better do something else that works.

    Letting the play clock run down is ok, this version of the no-huddle is not the same as a hurry-up. Time taken on the line still prevents defensive substitutions. Unfortunately it doesn't matter what personnel the defense gets stuck with, they are still winning the matchups with the Packers. That is the biggest problem.

    I'm not sure MM is too conservative, but with the OL a complete fail (as always, maybe this will be the 2x4 to get MM to fire Campen), and receivers not named Jordy sucking, he can't do a whole lot when backed up. I really wish they'd put back some old west-coast short timing passes.

    If this offensive shit-fest isn't a 2x4 to the head, I don't know what would be.
    Fire Murphy, Gute, MLF, Barry, Senavich, etc!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadScientist View Post
    If the rookies aren't getting the hand signals right, better do something else that works.

    Letting the play clock run down is ok, this version of the no-huddle is not the same as a hurry-up. Time taken on the line still prevents defensive substitutions. Unfortunately it doesn't matter what personnel the defense gets stuck with, they are still winning the matchups with the Packers. That is the biggest problem.

    I'm not sure MM is too conservative, but with the OL a complete fail (as always, maybe this will be the 2x4 to get MM to fire Campen), and receivers not named Jordy sucking, he can't do a whole lot when backed up. I really wish they'd put back some old west-coast short timing passes.

    If this offensive shit-fest isn't a 2x4 to the head, I don't know what would be.
    I agree, especially with the short timing passes. However, does the OL give our RB enough time to release over the middle?

    As far as being conservative, well Stubby's decision to come out and establish the run against Detroit's defense was either foolhardy or, as pbmax suggests, an attempt to avoid Rodgers getting run over by the pass rush. I tend to believe it's both and that is playing conservative, i.e., not playing to your strength.
    One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
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