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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    I don't. But he could no longer start for a 29th overall ranked defense, that ranked 30th in pass defense.

    Unless there is some undisclosed injury that he will recover from in short order, the assumption has to be that he was worse than when he left GB.

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    The question for me is: Is he currently as good or better than any of our CB's. His experience has got to count for something. He could serve as nothing more than a band-aid. In fact, I think it is rational to ask why, if the Browns had soured on Tramon, we didn't pursue him early last season when our guys started to bite the dust. His familiarity with Dom's system might have made him more serviceable than an injured Rollins or Randall.

    Just sayin'.
    One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxie the Taxi View Post
    The question for me is: Is he currently as good or better than any of our CB's. His experience has got to count for something. He could serve as nothing more than a band-aid. In fact, I think it is rational to ask why, if the Browns had soured on Tramon, we didn't pursue him early last season when our guys started to bite the dust. His familiarity with Dom's system might have made him more serviceable than an injured Rollins or Randall.

    Just sayin'.
    I hear ya, Maxie. Yeah, as long as it's a tire kicking and if he has tread left and doesn't expect a big money, then he could be depth. It could be a cheaper option than brining back Hyde, but then you'd have to decide which player brings more to the table at this point, and that is likely Hyde. It's awesome to be good with the cap, but sometimes laying out the money is worth it for younger legs and better production. However, if there is a hybrid free agent, slightly younger than Hyde who has better cover skills, I'd rather give that player the money we would be giving to Hyde. He does what he can in coverage, and was asked to do a lot more because of injuries, but savvy only carries you so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carolina_Packer View Post
    I hear ya, Maxie. Yeah, as long as it's a tire kicking and if he has tread left and doesn't expect a big money, then he could be depth. It could be a cheaper option than brining back Hyde, but then you'd have to decide which player brings more to the table at this point, and that is likely Hyde. It's awesome to be good with the cap, but sometimes laying out the money is worth it for younger legs and better production. However, if there is a hybrid free agent, slightly younger than Hyde who has better cover skills, I'd rather give that player the money we would be giving to Hyde. He does what he can in coverage, and was asked to do a lot more because of injuries, but savvy only carries you so far.
    Agreed, completely. All I'm suggesting is that ALL options be thoroughly explored and left on the table. Don't let preconceived notions negate possible opportunity.
    One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxie the Taxi View Post
    Agreed, completely. All I'm suggesting is that ALL options be thoroughly explored and left on the table. Don't let preconceived notions negate possible opportunity.
    EXACTLY, very well stated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxie the Taxi View Post
    Agreed, completely. All I'm suggesting is that ALL options be thoroughly explored and left on the table. Don't let preconceived notions negate possible opportunity.
    There was an article a few years ago that state TT brings the most guys weekly to GB to be looked at during the season. In the article it said he brought in around 10 players per week to look at. We just don't hear about it. We don't know what goes on in 1265.

    I think TT has a very good grasp that our CBs and pass defense sucked this year. To think he doesn't is silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThunderDan View Post
    We don't know what goes on in 1265.
    A greater truth has never been spoken. It's why I said earlier that I won't get too excited about what is said here until TT and MM start posting.
    One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxie the Taxi View Post
    Agreed, completely. All I'm suggesting is that ALL options be thoroughly explored and left on the table. Don't let preconceived notions negate possible opportunity.
    Trying to decide if you believe what you're saying or just being contrary. As the great Cincinnati poet Johnny Fever said, "speed kills Del" and Tramon has none of it left. Yes, at this point, a street UDFA has more to offer than he does because any NFL WR is going to get a step on his EVERY play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxie the Taxi View Post
    Agreed, completely. All I'm suggesting is that ALL options be thoroughly explored and left on the table. Don't let preconceived notions negate possible opportunity.
    I think this might be the crux of the issue. We have no idea if they talk with his agent, call him on the phone, even look his way.

    We just assume if the media doesn't report a player in for a tryout, then the Packers weren't interested. There's absolutely no way to know this. Gnashing teeth over the inaction (perceived or otherwise) of the front office is nonsensical. There's no way to know if a player is in the least bit interested in heading to Green Bay Wisconsin to work. Free agency is free. You don't just get who you want because you want it.

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