Originally Posted by bobblehead
Majik and Dickey were good but anti-Favre in their durability. Rich Campbell and Jim Zorn come to mind in the list of embarrassing QB's during the dark era.
Majik and Dickey were good but anti-Favre in their durability. Rich Campbell and Jim Zorn come to mind in the list of embarrassing QB's during the dark era.
Fire Murphy, Gute, MLF, Barry, Senavich, etc!
So what are the Packers gaining by gambling with the back up position again? If not Flynn, who? Please don't say Tolzien as he sucks ass, Flynn isn't great but he isn't terrible. I wouldn't be surprised to see TT bring Jamarcus Russel in just because he's cheap.
If Flynn goes elsewhere, Tolzien will get first look, with some 7th rounder stashed on the practice squad. The Packers like Tolzien's arm and are planning that a full off season and QB school will make him a decent backup. They had figure out quickly if Tolzien won't cut it so they can bring in a street vet in time to learn the system, just as long as he is not Seneca the elder.
Fire Murphy, Gute, MLF, Barry, Senavich, etc!
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How about Randy Wright? Or the ill fated Robbie Bosco?
BYU couldn't keep the streak alive at QB forever.
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My takeaway from the Flynn negotiations (or non-negotiations): they just aren't going to pay a replacement level player more than the minimum even at QB.
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
My sentiments exactly, except to say I HOPE Flynn goes elsewhere. I wish him well - he has served the Packers well. I hope he takes some other team for multiple millions like he did the last time. The Packers are much better off with Tolzien.
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really? how the fuck do you figure that?
we were 0-2-1 in games where he played the majority of the game or started. in the game we tied, we were getting our asses handed to us until tolzien yanked for flynn, who brought us back. 1 td, 5 ints in those 3 games
flynn, finished the tie, and it would have been a loss without him. he then went 2-2 in his 4 starts. in those 5 games he had 7 td's and 4 int's
tolzien has a big arm, and thats all he has going for him. he has no accuracy, he makes horrible decisions and he can't win games
how anyone can say we're better of with tolzien over flynn is beyond me
Flynn's days of multi-million dollar contracts are over. Teams now know what he is. A good backup who isn't quite talented enough to start. Tolzien needs to improve a lot before he can be considered better than Flynn. He can throw, but 1 TD and 5 INT's just won't cut it. Tolzien produced 13 points in each of the 2 games he finished, both losses, and had to be bailed out by Flynn against Minnesota with only 7 points on the board.
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I want to see how he develops in TC and the pre-season but if the Packers go into the season with Toz as the #2 I'd be surprised.
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I think Flynn's days are just about done. Something was wrong with his arm last year, he could barely throw 20 yards with anything on it. His arm never was a canon, but last year was ridiculous. Maybe the off season helped, but I wouldn't count on it.
Tolzien had no time to prepare. He and Wallace were signed after training camp was done, and Tolzien for the practice squad at that. With no experience to draw on, we shouldn't have expected much. Flynn had a significant advantage just from his prior years in GB.
Tolzien should be better this year. I certainly hope so, because he has twice the arm that Flynn does.
I saw enough of Tolzien when he played for the Badgers to last me a lifetime, he just isn't that good. He for sure isn't better than Flynn, not that that would take a whole lot. Going into the season hoping Tolzien has progressed, is as stupid as their plan last year.
Did Flynn end up getting the Tommy John surgery, or was he trying to score a contract first?
IMO the main reason Flynn looked passable as a QB last year was because he had a clue what he was doing. We'll never know if Wallace could have won a couple games while Rodgers was out because he got injured in his first series in his first start. I'm beginning to agree with Patler, Flynn's arm might be shot and that's why we haven't signed him again. Matt has to know nobody is gonna come calling for him to start. There is no way he'll beat out Eli in NY.
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Matt Flynn's arm was pudding last season. Inspite of that he kept our playoff hopes alive. He needed to address that noodle arm issue with all the money he bilked out of NFL teams. Otherwise he'd look great behind a bar and talking NFL trivia.
Scott Tolzien looks like a calf trying to walk on ice and he needs some seasoning to be fairly assessed.
The bottom line as last season ended. We don't have a solid backup QB. I believe a contending team must have a very decent backup QB.
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He denied there was a problem with his arm. But I am with Patler. At times, his throws looked very different.
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
Because obviously an athlete can never be better or more mature than he was in college??
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