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    Again, lol... good God again...

    The solution is the 3-3 with Matthews roving. The 3 LB's should be Matthews, Neal, and Peppers.

    Jones and Hawk have no business being on the field ever, but since we're stuck with them and Barrington/Lattimore - I'd rather see Barrington get the occasional look.

    Given that the Pats usually throw a ton of short stuff, and run a lot out of 3 wides, I'd run a lot of 3-3 against them, cheat the safeties up, and double Gronk. I don't fear Edleman or Lefell - let them both have their 6-8 catches, but shut down the run game, make quick tackles on the short throws, and contain Gronk.

    If they did that, we'd have a chance... but I don't think dunderdummy will do any of those things. I fully expect us to get outcoached, and to be lit up big time by Brady.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wist43 View Post
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    If they did that, we'd have a chance... but I don't think dunderdummy will do any of those things. I fully expect us to get outcoached, and to be lit up big time by Brady.
    Just like 2010!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Just like 2010!!
    He's your guy Max... sex was good in the beginning, so you make excuses for all the beatings he's given you since.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wist43 View Post
    Given that the Pats usually throw a ton of short stuff, and run a lot out of 3 wides, I'd run a lot of 3-3 against them, cheat the safeties up, and double Gronk. I don't fear Edleman or Lefell - let them both have their 6-8 catches, but shut down the run game, make quick tackles on the short throws, and contain Gronk...
    Who is doubling Gronk in your defense?

    And the Patriots favorite alignment that I have seen this year is double TEs. Amendola hasn't been available for stretches and Wright at TE has come on. They will split one of the TEs out at times.

    Williams has got to cover Edelman. Shields is going to get LaFell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Who is doubling Gronk in your defense?
    Mathews and Peppers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxie the Taxi View Post
    Mathews and Peppers?
    So his pass rush is Guion, Daniels, Jones/Boyd and Neal?

    Brady will have all day to let Gronk lose his double team. You can't send both you best pass rushers into coverage unless its 3rd and 38.

    Capers is going to have to mix it up which means Gronk is going to see a lot of different bodies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    So his pass rush is Guion, Daniels, Jones/Boyd and Neal?

    Brady will have all day to let Gronk lose his double team. You can't send both you best pass rushers into coverage unless its 3rd and 38.

    Capers is going to have to mix it up which means Gronk is going to see a lot of different bodies.
    Sorry, pb. That was sarcasm. I should have included a smiley face or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxie the Taxi View Post
    Sorry, pb. That was sarcasm. I should have included a smiley face or something.
    My bad. I'm having the 3-3 DTs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    So his pass rush is Guion, Daniels, Jones/Boyd and Neal?

    Brady will have all day to let Gronk lose his double team. You can't send both you best pass rushers into coverage unless its 3rd and 38.

    Capers is going to have to mix it up which means Gronk is going to see a lot of different bodies.
    Your line is going to have a rotation of all those guys - depending on situation.

    If it's either or, you should have Boyd or Guion on the field, along with Daniels and D.Jones/Perry. You've got Neal, Matthews and Peppers standing up.

    If it's clearly a passing situation, your line should be D. Jones, Daniels, and Perry; and the same 3 LB's.

    It's not that complicated - and I have news for ya, there's no rule that says you can't rush 5; nor is there any rule that says you can't play zone underneath, cheat your Safeties up, or double the TE.

    Of course dunderdummy will revert back to his default gameplan against elite QB's which is to play the 2-4, and play softer and softer in coverage. Gronk could have 3 or 4 TD's, and Brady is going to go off. Not to mention the fact that they should run for 150+

    If dunderdummy comes out in a 3-3 nickel, and plays it the way I've outlined, we might-could have a chance; but if he reverts to his nature?? Well, we've seen that show a million times - haven't we??
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    Quote Originally Posted by wist43 View Post
    Your line is going to have a rotation of all those guys - depending on situation.

    If it's either or, you should have Boyd or Guion on the field, along with Daniels and D.Jones/Perry. You've got Neal, Matthews and Peppers standing up.

    If it's clearly a passing situation, your line should be D. Jones, Daniels, and Perry; and the same 3 LB's.

    It's not that complicated - and I have news for ya, there's no rule that says you can't rush 5; nor is there any rule that says you can't play zone underneath, cheat your Safeties up, or double the TE.

    Of course dunderdummy will revert back to his default gameplan against elite QB's which is to play the 2-4, and play softer and softer in coverage. Gronk could have 3 or 4 TD's, and Brady is going to go off. Not to mention the fact that they should run for 150+

    If dunderdummy comes out in a 3-3 nickel, and plays it the way I've outlined, we might-could have a chance; but if he reverts to his nature?? Well, we've seen that show a million times - haven't we??
    Capers might give you three down lineman given NE's running game. Though the bigger concern is likely Brady.

    HOwever, this still leaves open a question. You said run 3-3 (Peppers/Matthews/Neal) and double Gronk. Who is doubling Gronk?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Capers might give you three down lineman given NE's running game. Though the bigger concern is likely Brady.

    HOwever, this still leaves open a question. You said run 3-3 (Peppers/Matthews/Neal) and double Gronk. Who is doubling Gronk?
    The biggest concern is what will we get from Bill Belichick?

    How fast will MM and Dom Capers react to that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Capers might give you three down lineman given NE's running game. Though the bigger concern is likely Brady.

    HOwever, this still leaves open a question. You said run 3-3 (Peppers/Matthews/Neal) and double Gronk. Who is doubling Gronk?
    There ya go again Max... acting like nothing can be done out of a 3-3.

    Who will cover who??? OH MY!!

    I can see that you are in complete agreement with dunderdummy that the 2-4 is the only - the one and only - nickel front that can be run - ever. All other varieties of the nickel are ludicrous - right??

    How would you double Gronk in the 2-4?? By using Brad Jones or AJ Hawk, along with a Safety?? Since both Jones and Hawk suck at every aspect of the game of football - how would you think that would turn out?? Rather I imagine you would think doubling Gronk an impossibility??

    As for how I would do it - it's not rocket science, I'd bracket him with whichever LB and Safety he was lined up on. Underneath and over the top. Whether that LB is Matthews, Peppers or Neal wouldn't matter much except I'd scheme to dictate the matchup, instead of allowing the Pats to dictate the matchup.

    That would pretty effectively take the seam route away from him, and if he's running a drag across the middle, I'd be in zone underneath so there would be plenty of traffic to intercept him coming across.

    You act like doubling a player and taking him away from the offense is an impossibility... certainly dunderdummy thinks that - he never takes away an opponents #1 threat, he just sits back and hopes for the best.

    If Perry misses the game - we'll be in big trouble. Chances are that b/c Perry isn't practicing this week, dunderdummy is preparing a gameplan that doesn't include Perry, i.e. he is going to play tons of 2-4. That being the case... I don't like our chances at all.
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