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    I agreed with kicking the FG at the ~6 min mark in the first half to total 9 pts because it would have been too big a risk to give the Jets a boost going into the locker room. Didnt agree with the OS kick tho...

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    Quote Originally Posted by smuggler View Post
    I agreed with kicking the FG at the ~6 min mark in the first half to total 9 pts because it would have been too big a risk to give the Jets a boost going into the locker room. Didnt agree with the OS kick tho...
    The OS kick is one of those things MM does that drives me up a wall. It's like he thinks he can outsmart other coaches.

    MM: "Ah Ha, they'll never suspect a an OS kick when were down three scores so let's go for it."

    Save that crap for when we're up a couple scores and the defense has been playing lights out. If that will ever happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pittstang5 View Post
    The OS kick is one of those things MM does that drives me up a wall. It's like he thinks he can outsmart other coaches.

    MM: "Ah Ha, they'll never suspect a an OS kick when were down three scores so let's go for it."

    Save that crap for when we're up a couple scores and the defense has been playing lights out. If that will ever happen.
    The onside kick this week and going for it on 4th down in the 3rd quarter last week are risks I am fine with, and are probably as much for psychological reasons as for strategic ones. That is M3 taking a risk at a calculated time to extend a drive or steal a possession, and it lets them know that he's not afraid to stick his neck out to win them the game. It goes to the kind of mentality a team needs to be successful -- playing with a sort of controlled chaos. Neither of those hurt the Packers. The D made a stand after the 4th down failure and the D again came up with the big INT this week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by denverYooper View Post
    The onside kick this week and going for it on 4th down in the 3rd quarter last week are risks I am fine with, and are probably as much for psychological reasons as for strategic ones. That is M3 taking a risk at a calculated time to extend a drive or steal a possession, and it lets them know that he's not afraid to stick his neck out to win them the game. It goes to the kind of mentality a team needs to be successful -- playing with a sort of controlled chaos. Neither of those hurt the Packers. The D made a stand after the 4th down failure and the D again came up with the big INT this week.
    I think I could make a pretty good argument that going for it on 4th down in the Seattle game was a big reason the Packers lost. Sure the defense made a stand at mid-field, but then Seattle punted pinning the Packers down on their own 10. On the very next play Rodgers fumbled and Seattle scored a safety and that's all she wrote. Bad things happen to you when you're pinned down deep in your own territory.

    As far as the onside kick goes, it was a HUGE gamble that wasn't warranted. GB was only 12 points down at the time but the failed onside gave the Jets the ball at midfield just before halftime. If not for the interception AND a 97 yard drive, the Jets might have gone into halftime with a 20 point lead! Not good.

    If the Packers could followup every failed onside kick with an interception AND a 97 yard drive, I might agree with you. Try it.

    But what are the odds?

    As I see it, those kinds of gambles work to a team's mental disadvantage. It kind of sends a message to your guys that they can't win without gimmicks because the other team is just plain that much better.
    One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pittstang5 View Post
    The OS kick is one of those things MM does that drives me up a wall. It's like he thinks he can outsmart other coaches.

    MM: "Ah Ha, they'll never suspect a an OS kick when were down three scores so let's go for it."

    Save that crap for when we're up a couple scores and the defense has been playing lights out. If that will ever happen.
    You don't need to do an onside kick if you're up a couple scores and the defense is playing lights out. You do an onside kick for one of two reasons. Either, you desperately need the ball back, or you're trying to change the momentum of the game. In this case the latter applies. I had no problem with it, especially since Crosby is pretty good at it.
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