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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Saying decision making by the QB is poor is just the same hindsight as questioning the play calling.

    Cobb has said he made the wrong adjustment on his, so we can bypass the problem with Rodgers execution on that one.

    I would love to learn how you are able to deduce a players "focus" level from watching on TV. Is it the same method as determining their "fire"?
    It's easy to dismiss criticism as "hindsight." I would love to learn how one deduces that critical comments are motivated by "hindsight" rather than an honest difference of opinion on tactics or strategy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxie the Taxi View Post
    It's easy to dismiss criticism as "hindsight." I would love to learn how one deduces that critical comments are motivated by "hindsight" rather than an honest difference of opinion on tactics or strategy.
    so would I. Any ideas?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mraynrand View Post
    so would I. Any ideas?
    If you can tell me with a straight face you wouldn't have criticized different decisions that also resulted in negative outcomes then ok.

    You guys act like it's a no brainer to have your gimpy sloppy qb throwing the ball up by 12 with 5 minutes left. Again if he had thrown incomplete passes on all 3 downs you would have bitched about the ridiculous coaching. Or God forbid an interception with 5 minutes left! And if on several of the 4th and short plays had we been stuffed and turned the ball over instead of getting fgs you would have bitched about that too.

    I see a lot of circular logic here. Aaron had a bad game because of of his calf and the defense, causing him to be inaccurate and make bad decisions. YET, McCarthy is an idiot for not trusting him to convert first downs and complete passes without making mistakes when the clock running was our best friend.. ????? Can't have it both ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxie the Taxi View Post
    It's easy to dismiss criticism as "hindsight." I would love to learn how one deduces that critical comments are motivated by "hindsight" rather than an honest difference of opinion on tactics or strategy.
    Does this apply?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxie the Taxi View Post
    It's easy to dismiss criticism as "hindsight." I would love to learn how one deduces that critical comments are motivated by "hindsight" rather than an honest difference of opinion on tactics or strategy.
    That would depend entirely on the quality of the objection and the nature of how its applied.

    In this case, there is an argument being made that Rodgers must ID the flag being thrown before taking such a risk with a deep ball. But since that is very unlikely to be possible (flags of offside or encroachment come from the sideline and can be delayed), such shot plays would disappear as would the benefits. And that cost is quite high, the Packers have made a living on them. It very much helps their pass pro.

    So we have an error and the identified solution is to essentially never risk it again because of the one bad outcome. That is just hindsight telling you there was one worst case outcome. No analysis that demonstrates the effect of the one outcome on the balance of the advantage or leverage the play accrues to the offense over the course of the season.
    Last edited by pbmax; 01-30-2015 at 04:07 PM.
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