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  1. #1
    Here is a template for the offseason. Covers all the steps and has some numbers.

    Problem is, his numbers are non-sense. As of today, the Packers do not have $22 million in cap space and the rookie pool is $8 mil and not $5 mil. And after renegotiations and Rodgers signing an extension (his number, 5 years, $150 mil), if the Packers have $22 million in cap space I will eat my hat.

    So follow the template, use better numbers. He published on the 6th, maybe the draft pool numbers were published after his deadline.

    http://packerstalk.com/2018/03/06/20...ulation-v-4-0/

    Salary Cap

    Estimated salary cap – $178,000,000

    Player Salaries – $152,486,983

    Dead Money – $4,718,533

    Estimated Carryover – $6,400,000

    Draft Pick Reserve – $5,000,000

    Remaining Cap Space – $22,194,484

    Renegotiations
    Randall Cobb – I believe a fair offer is 4 years/$6 million per
    Jordy Nelson – I’d give Nelson 4 years/$8 million per
    Aaron Rodgers 5 years/$150 million with half of that guaranteed

    Remaining Cap Space – $22,955,984

    Cuts
    TE Lance Kendricks – Cap Savings: $1,625,000.
    No cut Matthews
    No cut Bulaga
    No cut Dix.

    Remaining Cap Space – $24,580,984

    Re-Signing
    S Morgan Burnett – 3 years, $8 million/year

    Remaining Cap Space – $18,980,984

    Free Agency
    CB Kyle Fuller – 4 years, $7 million/year
    DE Muhammad Wilkerson – 4 years, $7 million/year
    QB TJ Yates – 2 years, $1.3 million/year.
    TE Crockett Gilmore – 3 years, $2 million/year

    Remaining Cap Space – $6,640,984

    Draft
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  2. #2
    http://packerstalk.com/2018/03/06/20...ulation-v-4-0/

    Salary Cap

    2018 salary cap – $177,200,000

    Player Salaries – $160,602,634 (52 players under contract, not the Top 51 number)

    Dead Money – $4,718,533

    2017 Carryover – $3,934,000

    Draft Pick Reserve – $8,761,000

    Remaining Cap Space – $7,051,833


    Renegotiations

    Remaining Cap Space – $



    Cuts

    Remaining Cap Space – $



    Re-Signing

    Remaining Cap Space – $



    Free Agency

    Remaining Cap Space – $



    Draft
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

  3. #3
    http://packerstalk.com/2018/03/06/20...ulation-v-4-0/

    Salary Cap

    2018 salary cap – $177,200,000

    Player Salaries – $160,602,634 (52 players under contract, not the Top 51 number)

    Dead Money – $4,718,533

    2017 Carryover – $3,934,000

    Draft Pick Reserve – $8,761,000 (because Packers have 52 players, some rookies will replace vets and the cap space will wash out, not accrue higher so we are using 1/3 of the reserve to calculate the cap space after the draft picks.

    Remaining Cap Space – $12,892,500


    Renegotiations

    Remaining Cap Space – $



    Cuts

    Remaining Cap Space – $



    Re-Signing

    Remaining Cap Space – $



    Free Agency

    Remaining Cap Space – $



    Draft
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Here is a template for the offseason. Covers all the steps and has some numbers.

    Problem is, his numbers are non-sense. As of today, the Packers do not have $22 million in cap space and the rookie pool is $8 mil and not $5 mil. And after renegotiations and Rodgers signing an extension (his number, 5 years, $150 mil), if the Packers have $22 million in cap space I will eat my hat.

    So follow the template, use better numbers. He published on the 6th, maybe the draft pool numbers were published after his deadline.

    http://packerstalk.com/2018/03/06/20...ulation-v-4-0/

    Salary Cap

    Estimated salary cap – $178,000,000

    Player Salaries – $152,486,983

    Dead Money – $4,718,533

    Estimated Carryover – $6,400,000

    Draft Pick Reserve – $5,000,000

    Remaining Cap Space – $22,194,484

    Renegotiations
    Randall Cobb – I believe a fair offer is 4 years/$6 million per
    Jordy Nelson – I’d give Nelson 4 years/$8 million per
    Aaron Rodgers 5 years/$150 million with half of that guaranteed

    Remaining Cap Space – $22,955,984

    Cuts
    TE Lance Kendricks – Cap Savings: $1,625,000.
    No cut Matthews
    No cut Bulaga
    No cut Dix.

    Remaining Cap Space – $24,580,984

    Re-Signing
    S Morgan Burnett – 3 years, $8 million/year

    Remaining Cap Space – $18,980,984

    Free Agency
    CB Kyle Fuller – 4 years, $7 million/year
    DE Muhammad Wilkerson – 4 years, $7 million/year
    QB TJ Yates – 2 years, $1.3 million/year.
    TE Crockett Gilmore – 3 years, $2 million/year

    Remaining Cap Space – $6,640,984

    Draft
    QB TJ Yates: Why?

    http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/6603/tj-yates

    Crockett Gillmore wants to change Positions from the TE Position to Tackle,

    http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/...ckett-gillmore

    " He has missed 31 games to injury over the last three seasons.

    Gillmore has been a rock-solid blocking tight end in the NFL. "
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  5. #5
    Dead serious, need someone to check my cap math there.

    Everyone is reporting Packers at $19.6 mil. That does not include rookie pool ($8.7 mil). If it did it would be 10.9 million of room.

    But I don't get the discrepancy between the public number 19.6-8.7=10.9 and the number I get when I add up all the particulars (7.0).

    People cannot be quoting salary cap numbers without counting dead cap space can they?
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  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Dead serious, need someone to check my cap math there.

    Everyone is reporting Packers at $19.6 mil. That does not include rookie pool ($8.7 mil). If it did it would be 10.9 million of room.

    But I don't get the discrepancy between the public number 19.6-8.7=10.9 and the number I get when I add up all the particulars (7.0).

    People cannot be quoting salary cap numbers without counting dead cap space can they?
    every fucking year

    8.7 million for rookies does not mean the rookies will take up 8.7 million in cap space

    i don't feel like doing my own thing again for the god knows how many-th years in a row

    just read this

    https://overthecap.com/explaining-th...ie-salary-cap/

    in short. rookies take the place of other guys on the 53 man roster. 3rd round picks and later basicaly don't add to the cap because they make the minimum and are replacing guys who also made the minimum.

    2nd round picks make about a half million a year more then minimum. which leaves just the first round pick that actually adds anything to the cap.

    for the packers last year since they traded out of the first. king got about 300,000 more then the minimum, and adams got just over the minimum. so last year the rookie class took up between 500,000 and a million of our cap space

  7. #7
    after we sign our rookies we will have about 1-2 million less in cap space, NOT 8.7 million less

    last year the #14 pick had a cap number of just over 1 million his first year

    #14 in the second round had a cap number of 727,000

    minus out the minimum wage guys they replace and thats a cap hit of about 750,000.

    the other rounds cancel out
    Last edited by red; 03-07-2018 at 06:19 PM.

  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by red View Post
    after we sign our rookies we will have about 1-2 million less in cap space, NOT 8.7 million less

    last year the #14 pick had a cap number of just over 1 million his first year

    #14 in the second round had a cap number of 727,000

    minus out the minimum wage guys they replace and thats a cap hit of about 750,000.

    the other rounds cancel out
    OK, so he worked out actual cap space that had to be cleared for the 2015 rookies by team and it floats around one third to one half of the actual allowed rookie cap space, but can vary quite a bit team to team. Packers in that year had an allocation of 5.3 mil for 9 players and had to clear 1.8 mil. Bears and Jets were over half.

    So I will adjust the offseason template to knock down the cap space by only 1/3 of the rookie allocation.
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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