Results 1 to 20 of 123

Thread: Brian Gutekunst, Making No Sense

Hybrid View

Previous Post Previous Post   Next Post Next Post
  1. #1
    Neo Rat HOFer Fritz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Detroitish
    Posts
    20,192
    Quote Originally Posted by wist43 View Post
    1 18 Jaire Alexander CB Louisville
    2 13 (45) Josh Jackson CB Iowa
    3 24 (88, from CAR) Oren Burks LB Vanderbilt
    4 33 (133 comp) J'Mon Moore WR Missouri
    5 1 (138) Cole Madison OL Washington State
    5 35 (172 comp) JK Scott P Alabama
    5 37 (174 comp) Marquez Valdes-Scantling WR South Florida
    6 33 (207, comp) Equanimeous St. Brown WR Notre Dame
    7 14 (232) James Looney DE California
    7 21 (239) Hunter Bradley LS Mississippi State
    7 30 (248, from SEA) Kendall Donnerson OLB SE Missouri State

    Okay, here is the skinny...

    I really liked what Gute did in FA and on Day 1 of the draft. (Stop)

    I can live with Josh Jackson in the 2nd. (Stop)

    -------------------------------------------------------------

    Everything thereafter is WTF????

    -------------------------------------------------------------

    - Burks is the worst player in the history of college football. Simply, "WOW" terrible... Great athlete, great combine - worst football player to ever put pads on.

    - I like the WR's we picked as players, but all of them are vertical players - just not sure how they fit MM's offense. Still, they are pretty talented, so we'll see.

    - Can live with the Madison pick. Typical Packer OL pick.

    - 2 Special Teams guys?? WTF??

    - Didn't even attempt to address pass rush, or OLB. This is the one that really has me saying WTF??

    Matthews is slowing down, so is Perry. Wilkerson has to rebound to contribute. Based on comments from the podium, they appear to be banking on Gilbert a lot.

    The fact that they even mentioned Biegel as a possible contributor speaks to how desperate the situation is.

    -------------------------------------------------------------

    4 players needed to be shown the door this offseason: Randall, Fackrell, Jon Ryan, and Biegel.

    I applauded his dumping of Randall, but if they think they are going to get any production out of those other 3 guys, they are completely deluded.

    -------------------------------------------------------------

    I think a lot of the same organizational problems that have plagued the Packers for many years are still there. Next year - the predraft buzz will be all about pass rush, and I seriously doubt the Packers front office will make the necessary moves to get this team over the top.

    Overall, after a very encouraging start to the Gute era, I think it is obvious it is the "same old Packers".


    So...building on this post and Bretsky's, I think it was, would you Packerrats prefer the draft class as is, or Harold Landry instead of Jackson in the second, which would cost you one of your two fourths plus a fifth, which means you'd give up that punter and that Joe Thomas-like third round guy?

    In other words, Wist, while you and I have serious disagreements in many ways, I agree with much of your analysis above.

  2. #2
    Roadkill Rat HOFer mraynrand's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    with 11 long-haired friends of Jesus in a chartreuse microbus
    Posts
    47,938
    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz View Post
    So...building on this post and Bretsky's, I think it was, would you Packerrats prefer the draft class as is, or Harold Landry instead of Jackson in the second, which would cost you one of your two fourths plus a fifth, which means you'd give up that punter and that Joe Thomas-like third round guy?

    In other words, Wist, while you and I have serious disagreements in many ways, I agree with much of your analysis above.
    If Jackson turns out better than Landry, then I say keep as is. If Landry turns out better, I'd like to go back in time and change the draft.
    "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

  3. #3
    Anti Homer Rat HOFer Bretsky's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Fort Atkinson, WI
    Posts
    32,656
    Blog Entries
    2
    [QUOTE=mraynrand;974278]If Jackson turns out better than Landry, then I say keep as is. If Landry turns out better, I'd like to go back in time and change the draft.[/QUOTE


    Pussy...lol

    Given our roster, I'm moving up all day long for Landry. Even if they are equivalent players, there were opportunities to get quality CB's later..aka....Nelson.......
    LIFE IS ABOUT CHAMPIONSHIPS; I JUST REALIZED THIS. The MILWAUKEE BUCKS have won the same number of championships over the past 50 years as the Green Bay Packers. Ten years from now, who will have more championships, and who will be the fart in the wind ?

  4. #4
    Roadkill Rat HOFer mraynrand's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    with 11 long-haired friends of Jesus in a chartreuse microbus
    Posts
    47,938
    Quote Originally Posted by Bretsky View Post
    Given our roster, I'm moving up all day long for Landry. Even if they are equivalent players, there were opportunities to get quality CB's later..aka....Nelson.......
    I mentioned something in the draft thread that Landry looked like a one trick pony to me - shoulder dip upfield and that's it. I like the Jackson pick because of the way he plays, and I'd stay with him if it were my choice. I worry that he's mostly faced some pretty rotten QBs.
    "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by mraynrand View Post
    I mentioned something in the draft thread that Landry looked like a one trick pony to me - shoulder dip upfield and that's it. I like the Jackson pick because of the way he plays, and I'd stay with him if it were my choice. I worry that he's mostly faced some pretty rotten QBs.
    He faced Josh Allen, McSorley, Barrett and Horny last year. Now granted, Josh Allen may be the worst QB ever to be drafted in the top 10, or at least he has the potential to rival Rich Campbell for that honor, but I woudn't call him a rotten QB.

  6. #6
    Moose Rat HOFer woodbuck27's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    30,498
    When asked Former Packer GM responded yes he failed in his inaugural Draft..



    Brian Gutekunst Blew the Draft with one name:

    ** Tremaine Edmunds



    ** Tremaine Edmunds - VIRGINIA TECH

    Rnd 1, Pick 16 ILB Buffalo Bills - Junior - GRADE = 7.17

    Pick Analysis:

    He doesn't turn 20 until May 2. He's an off the ball linebacker and some people think he's so talented, he might even be a pass rusher on third down. His future is immense. He's got this rare size and skill set that gives him a sub-package versatility that is unknown in today's game. --Mike Mayock

    https://www.nfl.com/prospects/tremai...0-412c60099aca

    Overview

    Edmunds combines elite size, speed and explosiveness into a productive, versatile linebacker package that will have evaluators salivating. Edmunds has posted high-impact production over the last two seasons and he still has room to get bigger and better. He will make mental mistakes and his instincts are subpar, but he has an ability to mitigate those issues with his athletic ability. Edmunds can play in any alignment at any linebacker spot and has All-Pro potential no matter where he lands.
    Last edited by woodbuck27; 04-29-2018 at 12:06 AM.
    ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
    ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
    ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
    ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •