McGinn- Packers DL Failing to Step Up

[Pugger]

How can anyone tell how good or bad this defense is gonna be after the starters have played snippets in 2 preseason games? Capers in notorious for having his defenders play vanilla in the preseason too. I think we need to see more evidence before making any declaration here. The defense will be better if only because they couldn't have played much worse last year besides getting turnovers.

[Smidgeon]

How can anyone tell how good or bad this defense is gonna be after the starters have played snippets in 2 preseason games? Capers in notorious for having his defenders play vanilla in the preseason too. I think we need to see more evidence before making any declaration here. The defense will be better if only because they couldn't have played much worse last year besides getting turnovers.

Capers is also notorious for his defenses dropping off in effectiveness after his first year as DC. In GB, that happened to be their best year, but it's a trend. I hope the D gets back to good though and stays there.

[pbmax]

Capers is also notorious for his defenses dropping off in effectiveness after his first year as DC. In GB, that happened to be their best year, but it's a trend. I hope the D gets back to good though and stays there.

They had their best year in his second year as DC with Green Bay. Which had been his worst year in other towns. A change in scheme is going to result in weird first year results as no one has film on that team playing that defense.

[Smidgeon]

They had their best year in his second year as DC with Green Bay. Which had been his worst year in other towns. A change in scheme is going to result in weird first year results as no one has film on that team playing that defense.

So was year 3 DC's year 2 at other stops? Has he ever had a defense that's perpetually in the Top 10?

[pbmax]

So was year 3 DC's year 2 at other stops? Has he ever had a defense that's perpetually in the Top 10?

Don't remember, but Dom has been in charge of some rebuilding projects so he was in Miami and Jacksonville when they blew up the structure and put up a new building. Tough to judge the long term success of a plan that changes after 2 years.

Harv did some yeoman's work on this theory either when he was hired or preseason of Year 2, but I don't see the thread.

I think his longest turn of success was Pitt followed by Carolina, but even Carolina got blown up due to the cap and FA.

[Smidgeon]

Don't remember, but Dom has been in charge of some rebuilding projects so he was in Miami and Jacksonville when they blew up the structure and put up a new building. Tough to judge the long term success of a plan that changes after 2 years.

Harv did some yeoman's work on this theory either when he was hired or preseason of Year 2, but I don't see the thread.

I think his longest turn of success was Pitt followed by Carolina, but even Carolina got blown up due to the cap and FA.

Okay. So hopefully the stability of talent from TT and the coaching of Trgo, Whitt, Perry, and Greene keep the defense good. My personal jury is still out on Moss.

[mmmdk]

How can anyone tell how good or bad this defense is gonna be after the starters have played snippets in 2 preseason games? Capers in notorious for having his defenders play vanilla in the preseason too. I think we need to see more evidence before making any declaration here. The defense will be better if only because they couldn't have played much worse last year besides getting turnovers.

...but it's still a lot of vanilla!