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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    It could be that the long arc of regular season performance points out that Manning is superior, but that Brady's success is indicative of being on a better team.
    How could **Peyton Manning be considered as a superior QB to Tom Brady?

    The NFL is ultimately about the top teams and playoffs; getting to and winning the Super Bowl.

    In the Modern Era there are two obvious candidates for who's best. Joe Montana or Tom Brady and they never faced one another. On those two outstanding quarterbacks the debate may be focused.

    Joe Montana with a 16-7 playoff record (0.696) and 4 Super Bowls that 'included back to back wins in 1988 and 1989'. Montana's four Super Bowl wins cover a 9 year span.

    Tom Brady is just getting better and has a sensational 21 - 8 playoff record and also 4 Super Bowls (0.724) and that included back to back Super Bowl wins 2003 and 2004. The 21 wins in the playoffs is an NFL best. Brady's four Super Bowl wins cover an incredible 14 years and he wants more.

    If your going to add one or two more to thicken the debate:

    Bart Starr's playoff performance (9-1 and 2 Super Bowls) is obviously impressive.

    People seem to somehow ignore Terry Bradshaw ...14 - 5 and 4 Super Bowls in just 6 seasons 1974-79.

    Troy Aikman and a 11-4 playoff record and 3 Super Bowl rings in just four season.

    How about John Elway and all his comeback wins and 14-7 in the playoff's and 2 Super Bowls?

    ** Peyton Manning is THE RECORD MAN. When it comes to clutch and performance in the real time. He's not going to be in the conversation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by woodbuck27 View Post
    How could **Peyton Manning be considered as a superior QB to Tom Brady?

    The NFL is ultimately about the top teams and playoffs; getting to and winning the Super Bowl.

    In the Modern Era there are two obvious candidates for who's best. Joe Montana or Tom Brady and they never faced one another. On those two outstanding quarterbacks the debate may be focused.

    Joe Montana with a 16-7 playoff record (0.696) and 4 Super Bowls that 'included back to back wins in 1988 and 1989'. Montana's four Super Bowl wins cover a 9 year span.

    Tom Brady is just getting better and has a sensational 21 - 8 playoff record and also 4 Super Bowls (0.724) and that included back to back Super Bowl wins 2003 and 2004. The 21 wins in the playoffs is an NFL best. Brady's four Super Bowl wins cover an incredible 14 years and he wants more.

    If your going to add one or two more to thicken the debate:

    Bart Starr's playoff performance (9-1 and 2 Super Bowls) is obviously impressive.

    People seem to somehow ignore Terry Bradshaw ...14 - 5 and 4 Super Bowls in just 6 seasons 1974-79.

    Troy Aikman and a 11-4 playoff record and 3 Super Bowl rings in just four season.

    How about John Elway and all his comeback wins and 14-7 in the playoff's and 2 Super Bowls?

    ** Peyton Manning is THE RECORD MAN. When it comes to clutch and performance in the real time. He's not going to be in the conversation.
    All small sample sizes. And I think indicative of better teams having more success in the post-season. Much easier for the better QB with the weaker team to win in the regular season.

    Now how this applies to the Packers is the interesting question. Prior to last year's 49er playoff game, it seemed to come down to terrible defense coupled with a terrible injury plague. The offense was not as prolific as it was facing much better Defenses, but it produced.

    Last year though the D was playing better than the O versus the 49ers. However, the Packers struggle versus that D and it didn't help that Rodgers had just returned from injury.

    This year would have been the best test of the team since 2011, as they shored up the defense and everyone was healthy. Except for the QB.
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