Official Packers - Seahawks Game Thread 1/18/15

[beveaux1]

The Packers are getting criticized for shutting down their offense with a 19-7 lead and under 5 minutes to play after Burnett's interception. I think 31 other teams would do exactly what MM did and call 3 running plays to force Seattle to burn TOs. Everybody is quick to say that special teams cost us this win, and they certainly contributed.

Remember, in the last 3 minutes of the game and in the first 3 minutes of overtime, our defense gave up 22 points. Our offense had the ball for about a minute and scored 3 points. Our defense EPICALLY failed. I don't believe this is on the defensive coordinator. I believe the players failed. They, and I don't use this word easily, completely choked. MM didn't lose the game. Capers didn't lose the game. Special teams certainly contributed, but the defense lost this game after playing lights out for 57 minutes. The players choked this game away.

[Teamcheez1]

The Packers are getting criticized for shutting down their offense with a 19-7 lead and under 5 minutes to play after Burnett's interception. I think 31 other teams would do exactly what MM did and call 3 running plays to force Seattle to burn TOs. Everybody is quick to say that special teams cost us this win, and they certainly contributed.

Remember, in the last 3 minutes of the game and in the first 3 minutes of overtime, our defense gave up 22 points. Our offense had the ball for about a minute and scored 3 points. Our defense EPICALLY failed. I don't believe this is on the defensive coordinator. I believe the players failed. They, and I don't use this word easily, completely choked. MM didn't lose the game. Capers didn't lose the game. Special teams certainly contributed, but the defense lost this game after playing lights out for 57 minutes. The players choked this game away.

So you are absolving the coaches for losing this game?

[vince]

So you are absolving the coaches for losing this game?

Yes the coaches deserve credit for WINNING THIS GAME. One guy took it away from them all. Unbelievable.
Still fire Slocum but that shouldn't happen just because of this game.

[Rastak]

Yes the coaches deserve credit for WINNING THIS GAME. One guy took it away from them all. Unbelievable.

One guy? That's bullshit. There were many plays that could have sealed it. Many. That was one giant fuckup, not the only mistake and failure.

[Harlan Huckleby]

One guy? That's bullshit. There were many plays that could have sealed it. Many. That was one giant fuckup, not the only mistake and failure.

yes

[Bretsky]

One guy? That's bullshit. There were many plays that could have sealed it. Many. That was one giant fuckup, not the only mistake and failure.

If we don't give up the onside kick we win though

[Rastak]

If we don't give up the onside kick we win though

If he scores on the pick instead of sliding, if if if if.....lots of ifs, that was just one.

[Bretsky]

If he scores on the pick instead of sliding, if if if if.....lots of ifs, that was just one.

there were players in front of him; the LB ahead of him turned and signaled for him to go down. I agree it was moronic. He should have known better than doing that on anything but the last drive of the game.

[Carolina_Packer]

If he scores on the pick instead of sliding, if if if if.....lots of ifs, that was just one.

If Burnett fumbles or has it stripped during his return and gives the ball back to Seattle, he's the goat. When the Packers got the ball back, they needed the same offensive effort that got them in range for the game tying field goal. The Packers were good today, just not good enough for long enough.

[vince]

One guy? That's bullshit. There were many plays that could have sealed it. Many. That was one giant fuckup, not the only mistake and failure.

A lot of things happened. There is no way to deny the fact that if the onside is recovered, the Packers are in the Super Bowl right now.

[Rastak]

A lot of things happened. There is no way to deny the fact that if the onside is recovered, the Packers are in the Super Bowl right now.

Who is to say they don't turn it over? You don't know and I don't either......lots of plays, one guy didn;t lose it.

[Teamcheez1]

Yes the coaches deserve credit for WINNING THIS GAME. One guy took it away from them all. Unbelievable.

I thought we lost.

[beveaux1]

So you are absolving the coaches for losing this game?

I'm saying that fans always blame the coaches, but the players were in perfect position to go to the Super Bowl with a 12 point lead and 3 minutes to go. They didn't cover Lynch out of the backfield, bit on the fake to Lynch on the Wilson TD. They let an onside kick hit them in the head and allowed Seattle to recover. They missed numerous tackles on the Lynch run. They didn't knock down a duck that was in the air for 3 seconds on the 2 point conversion. Then, they allowed Kearse to get behind them in OT.

The players belly flopped. They choked. I'd love to say the coaches screwed the pooch, but that really didn't happen.

[Maxie the Taxi]

I'm saying that fans always blame the coaches, but the players were in perfect position to go to the Super Bowl with a 12 point lead and 3 minutes to go. They didn't cover Lynch out of the backfield, bit on the fake to Lynch on the Wilson TD. They let an onside kick hit them in the head and allowed Seattle to recover. They missed numerous tackles on the Lynch run. They didn't knock down a duck that was in the air for 3 seconds on the 2 point conversion. Then, they allowed Kearse to get behind them in OT.

The players belly flopped. They choked. I'd love to say the coaches screwed the pooch, but that really didn't happen.

It's called putting the players in a position to succeed. All that stuff you cited would be academic if Stubby is aggressive after Burnett's interception instead of passive.

[beveaux1]

It's called putting the players in a position to succeed. All that stuff you cited would be academic if Stubby is aggressive after Burnett's interception instead of passive.

I still think every coach in the league would call 3 running plays with a 19-7 lead, under 5 minutes to play, and a defense that had played lights out the entire game. The defense choked in the final 3 minutes of the game and in the first 3 minutes of OT.

[Maxie the Taxi]

I still think every coach in the league would call 3 running plays with a 19-7 lead, under 5 minutes to play, and a defense that had played lights out the entire game. The defense choked in the final 3 minutes of the game and in the first 3 minutes of OT.

We'll have to agree to disagree. Maybe you're right in a regular season game, but not in the NFC Championship game in the other guy's stadium.

[King Friday]

We'll have to agree to disagree. Maybe you're right in a regular season game, but not in the NFC Championship game in the other guy's stadium.

Nearly every other coach in the league does NOT have a QB the caliber of Aaron Rodgers under center. That is the difference. When you have him...you let him play to WIN it. Otherwise, you are a dumbass for a head coach.

[vince]

I still think every coach in the league would call 3 running plays with a 19-7 lead, under 5 minutes to play, and a defense that had played lights out the entire game. The defense choked in the final 3 minutes of the game and in the first 3 minutes of OT.

Absolutely. You have to execute running the ball and keep the clock going. Throwing incomplete passes hurts far worse than running for no gain. Don't want either result but if guys don't execute that's what you get.

[Striker]

Absolutely. You have to execute running the ball and keep the clock going. Throwing incomplete passes hurts far worse than running for no gain. Don't want either result but if guys don't execute that's what you get.

At the same time they were willing to have Rodgers throw on third down twice against Dallas, and this time they run/run/run/punt.

There are few people absolved of the blame for this one. Employing a weak 'play not to lose' strategy. Prevent defense.

Player's mistakes. Coaching mistakes. Were we going to actually attempt to win the game at the end of regulation? We only used one of three timeouts, when they could have maybe been a bit more aggressive moving the ball there.

[Packgator]

I'm saying that fans always blame the coaches, but the players were in perfect position to go to the Super Bowl with a 12 point lead and 3 minutes to go. They didn't cover Lynch out of the backfield, bit on the fake to Lynch on the Wilson TD. They let an onside kick hit them in the head and allowed Seattle to recover. They missed numerous tackles on the Lynch run. They didn't knock down a duck that was in the air for 3 seconds on the 2 point conversion. Then, they allowed Kearse to get behind them in OT.

The players belly flopped. They choked. I'd love to say the coaches screwed the pooch, but that really didn't happen.

Correct. This was about players not making a play when they had to. The 2 pointer, the onside kick, etc. Burnett makes a play and then doesn't extend it for a possible score with 5 minutes (?) to go. MM has very little to do with this loss. It's on the players.