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    maybe having a non scout makes sense.

    i'm not saying this happened, but lets say TT spend the full year scouting, along with all the scouts. come draft time, TT only drafts the guys he likes and completely ignore what the rest of his scouts think. wouldn't that be a bad thing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by red View Post
    maybe having a non scout makes sense.

    i'm not saying this happened, but lets say TT spend the full year scouting, along with all the scouts. come draft time, TT only drafts the guys he likes and completely ignore what the rest of his scouts think. wouldn't that be a bad thing?
    It would. Which is why there are usually disaster stories when this happens across the league. People can't keep quiet when their (correct) analysis is ignored.

    I'm guessing that was not an issue with TT, that he set the board fairly based on the scouts' inputs. Otherwise they'd be running to greener pastures long ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smidgeon View Post
    It would. Which is why there are usually disaster stories when this happens across the league. People can't keep quiet when their (correct) analysis is ignored.

    I'm guessing that was not an issue with TT, that he set the board fairly based on the scouts' inputs. Otherwise they'd be running to greener pastures long ago.
    the first thing Highsmith said after being hired by Dorsey was how nice it will be to be someplace where he would be trusted. that was your Senior Personnel Executive talking there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gbgary View Post
    the first thing Highsmith said after being hired by Dorsey was how nice it will be to be someplace where he would be trusted. that was your Senior Personnel Executive talking there.
    High smith was climbing up the charts in GB. He was trusted plenty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    High smith was climbing up the charts in GB. He was trusted plenty.
    just tellin ya what he said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gbgary View Post
    just tellin ya what he said.
    He did sound a bit bitter...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rastak View Post
    He did sound a bit bitter...
    I also viewed Highsmith's comment as a shot against the Packer organization on the way out of town.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rastak View Post
    He did sound a bit bitter...
    yup. that statement was pretty telling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gbgary View Post
    just tellin ya what he said.
    Right, and I think his success in GB means he must be talking about Cleveland and Dorsey, not GB and Murphy.

    He also got a promotion and likely a pay raise in the move. He was telling people that this development was great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Right, and I think his success in GB means he must be talking about Cleveland and Dorsey, not GB and Murphy.
    you mean thompson. i took it as him saying his input wasn't trusted/valued by thompson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    High smith was climbing up the charts in GB. He was trusted plenty.
    By Thompson apparently. I'm assuming his comments were aimed at someone else. Murphy? Ball?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    By Thompson apparently. I'm assuming his comments were aimed at someone else. Murphy? Ball?

    That is how I read it as well
    LIFE IS ABOUT CHAMPIONSHIPS; I JUST REALIZED THIS. The MILWAUKEE BUCKS have won the same number of championships over the past 50 years as the Green Bay Packers. Ten years from now, who will have more championships, and who will be the fart in the wind ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    By Thompson apparently. I'm assuming his comments were aimed at someone else. Murphy? Ball?
    Ball has no authority over Highsmith.

    Murphy doesn't interact with him regularly. The only topic here would be Alonzo getting an interview with Murphy about being Packers GM.

    Maybe three internal candidates were enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Ball has no authority over Highsmith.

    Murphy doesn't interact with him regularly. The only topic here would be Alonzo getting an interview with Murphy about being Packers GM.

    Maybe three internal candidates were enough.
    I think that was the topic. I think Highsmith felt he deserved a chance for an interview, but wasn't getting it because someone at the top doesn't trust him. I think he was referring to Murphy, although we don't know exactly how much Ball's role has expanded in recent years beyond managing the cap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smidgeon View Post
    It would. Which is why there are usually disaster stories when this happens across the league. People can't keep quiet when their (correct) analysis is ignored.

    I'm guessing that was not an issue with TT, that he set the board fairly based on the scouts' inputs. Otherwise they'd be running to greener pastures long ago.


    Bingo
    LIFE IS ABOUT CHAMPIONSHIPS; I JUST REALIZED THIS. The MILWAUKEE BUCKS have won the same number of championships over the past 50 years as the Green Bay Packers. Ten years from now, who will have more championships, and who will be the fart in the wind ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smidgeon View Post
    It would. Which is why there are usually disaster stories when this happens across the league. People can't keep quiet when their (correct) analysis is ignored.

    I'm guessing that was not an issue with TT, that he set the board fairly based on the scouts' inputs. Otherwise they'd be running to greener pastures long ago.
    They don't stay quiet if you are losing. There are suddenly a lot of leaks in GB, though most seem to be from the exec board.
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smidgeon View Post
    It would. Which is why there are usually disaster stories when this happens across the league. People can't keep quiet when their (correct) analysis is ignored.

    I'm guessing that was not an issue with TT, that he set the board fairly based on the scouts' inputs. Otherwise they'd be running to greener pastures long ago.
    We have (for whatever were their personal reasons) lost four good 'Front Office' Executives under TT's Tenure as Packer GM.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...n-to-remain-gm

    " ..The Packers have watched both John Schneider and Reggie McKenzie leave Green Bay for successful GM assignments with Seattle and Oakland, respectively. It's fair to wonder if the team would eventually aim to promote well-respected director of football operations Eliot Wolf, but those plans are on hold for now." "

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    John Dorsey

    Green Bay Packers (2000–2011) - Director of College Scouting.

    Green Bay Packers (2012) - Director of Football Operations.

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