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    Quote Originally Posted by Rastak View Post
    No offense but as mentioned previously Rodgers ADMITTED they over-inflate the balls......should the Packers get the same penalty as anything the Pats get?


    This is really minor, the only concerning thing is these dudes seem to have a pattern of bending the rules and getting busted.
    I believe Rodgers likes them over-inflated and then relies on the refs to check and request changes. That's a little different than having them checked and approved and then making changes after the fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bossman641 View Post
    I believe Rodgers likes them over-inflated and then relies on the refs to check and request changes. That's a little different than having them checked and approved and then making changes after the fact.
    I will grant you the slight distinction. One is slightly more underhanded, although the intent is the same for both. I still think this is pretty minor, and I'm no Pats fan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rastak View Post
    I will grant you the slight distinction. One is slightly more underhanded, although the intent is the same for both. I still think this is pretty minor, and I'm no Pats fan.
    The intent in one is to provide balls that meet the requirements so they are approved and intentionally deceive the refs knowing that you can then do whatever you want to the balls.

    The intent in the other is to get as close as possible to the upper amount the refs will allow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharpe1027 View Post
    The intent in one is to provide balls that meet the requirements so they are approved and intentionally deceive the refs knowing that you can then do whatever you want to the balls.

    The intent in the other is to get as close as possible to the upper amount the refs will allow.
    Maybe it's homerism, but I agree. From what Rodgers said, he puts in as much air as he thinks he can get away with, then gives the balls to the refs. If they say it's ok, then it's ok. Brady doctored (or had them doctored) after they passed inspection.

    All of this is pretty comical, and the timing of it is part of that. In reality, the Patriots should be punished. Now. The league has 2 weeks to sort it out, plenty of time. Fine Brady or the team, call him into the commisioners office to explain, whatever they decide. But, with the SB coming up, they just can't, there was an article on PFT that said as of 4 days after the game, the league hadn't even contacted Brady to discuss it
    This is looking an awful lot like the way they handled the Rice thing, bury their head in the sand, and ignore the evidence that is there for the taking, and hope it all goes away
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guiness View Post
    Maybe it's homerism, but I agree. From what Rodgers said, he puts in as much air as he thinks he can get away with, then gives the balls to the refs. If they say it's ok, then it's ok. Brady doctored (or had them doctored) after they passed inspection.

    All of this is pretty comical, and the timing of it is part of that. In reality, the Patriots should be punished. Now. The league has 2 weeks to sort it out, plenty of time. Fine Brady or the team, call him into the commisioners office to explain, whatever they decide. But, with the SB coming up, they just can't, there was an article on PFT that said as of 4 days after the game, the league hadn't even contacted Brady to discuss it
    This is looking an awful lot like the way they handled the Rice thing, bury their head in the sand, and ignore the evidence that is there for the taking, and hope it all goes away
    Is there any evidence that the Patriots deflated the balls after the referees inspected them? Isn't it possible that the officials failed to detect that the balls were under-inflated when they inspected them? After all, an official would have handled the ball after every Patriot offensive play and apparently didn't notice anything wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    Is there any evidence that the Patriots deflated the balls after the referees inspected them? Isn't it possible that the officials failed to detect that the balls were under-inflated when they inspected them? After all, an official would have handled the ball after every Patriot offensive play and apparently didn't notice anything wrong.
    There was a report the other day that the officials had inspected the balls 2 hours or so prior to the game and all the balls were within the threshold at that time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    Is there any evidence that the Patriots deflated the balls after the referees inspected them? Isn't it possible that the officials failed to detect that the balls were under-inflated when they inspected them? After all, an official would have handled the ball after every Patriot offensive play and apparently didn't notice anything wrong.

    Evidently it's near impossible to determine a difference of 2 psi in a ball just by handling it.

    So now balls must be measure for correct pressure just like stick blade curves have to follow a specified limitation in the NHL.

    This article is good;

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...ng-on-all-year

    It looks to me like the pat's pay some price here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by woodbuck27 View Post
    Evidently it's near impossible to determine a difference of 2 psi in a ball just by handling it.
    The NFL really needs to hire some people next year who are skilled at handling balls, to know the inflation difference, just by the way they feel in your hands - their softness/turgidity; the smoothness or roughness, their delicacy. I recommend Pete Schweddy:


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