2023 First Round Pick, #13, Lukas Van Ness

[RashanGary]

If you had to pick one body/athlete, would you rather have Gary or Van Ness? Gary 1/2” shorter and 5 lbs heavier so more stout. But lower agility. Vs Van Ness who is a little taller, not quite as stout, but more agile?

I think I like Van Ness slightly more. I like the ability to bend the corner. And he’s close on strength.

[Joemailman]

If you had to pick one body/athlete, would you rather have Gary or Van Ness? Gary 1/2” shorter and 5 lbs heavier so more stout. But lower agility. Vs Van Ness who is a little taller, not quite as stout, but more agile?

I think I like Van Ness slightly more. I like the ability to bend the corner. And he’s close on strength.

One area where Van Ness came up short at the combine was bench press. He did 17 which is poor for the position, whereas Gary did 26. Van Ness does have huge hands (11.0) so maybe he's able to compensate with hand strength.

[RashanGary]

One area where Van Ness came up short at the combine was bench press. He did 17 which is poor for the position, whereas Gary did 26. Van Ness does have huge hands (11.0) so maybe he's able to compensate with hand strength.

Sean Jones said one time he could only put it up like 3 times when he was coming out. So he finagled his way out of doing it. Some of the longer guys just have lever types that make bench hard. I don’t think it shows much, honestly. He’s strong. I read nothing into that.

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

One area where Van Ness came up short at the combine was bench press. He did 17 which is poor for the position, whereas Gary did 26. Van Ness does have huge hands (11.0) so maybe he's able to compensate with hand strength.

Oh oh, the 'huge hands' comment..

[bobblehead]

One area where Van Ness came up short at the combine was bench press. He did 17 which is poor for the position, whereas Gary did 26. Van Ness does have huge hands (11.0) so maybe he's able to compensate with hand strength.

Bench press is 100% trainable. When I was 25 I did 28 reps at 225. That doesn't mean I was stronger than Van Ness or Gary. It means I spent a lot of time in the gym. I also have pretty short arms which helps. Watch Van Ness's bull rush and you realize he has immense functional power.

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Bench press is 100% trainable. When I was 25 I did 28 reps at 225. That doesn't mean I was stronger than Van Ness or Gary. It means I spent a lot of time in the gym. I also have pretty short arms which helps. Watch Van Ness's bull rush and you realize he has immense functional power.

there a clip of him bull rushing paris johnson jr a few times

very impressive

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

If you had to pick one body/athlete, would you rather have Gary or Van Ness? Gary 1/2” shorter and 5 lbs heavier so more stout. But lower agility. Vs Van Ness who is a little taller, not quite as stout, but more agile?

I think I like Van Ness slightly more. I like the ability to bend the corner. And he’s close on strength.

And MUCH younger..

[Deputy Nutz]

If you had to pick one body/athlete, would you rather have Gary or Van Ness? Gary 1/2” shorter and 5 lbs heavier so more stout. But lower agility. Vs Van Ness who is a little taller, not quite as stout, but more agile?

I think I like Van Ness slightly more. I like the ability to bend the corner. And he’s close on strength.

You're crazy. Gary is physical freak show of an athlete, Key numbers are the 10 yard shuttle, and the vertical, then add in the bench press with actually longer arms than Van Ness. Very similar over all, I would assume they will groom Van Ness to play opposite of Gary, but who knows. They keep drafting 4-3 defensive ends and ask them to play stand up edge in the nickel. Not sure what the deal is and its confusing.

[HarveyWallbangers]

If you had to pick one body/athlete, would you rather have Gary or Van Ness? Gary 1/2” shorter and 5 lbs heavier so more stout. But lower agility. Vs Van Ness who is a little taller, not quite as stout, but more agile?

I think I like Van Ness slightly more. I like the ability to bend the corner. And he’s close on strength.

It's probably been said, but Van Ness is more Preston Smith than Rashan Gary. I thought Myles Murphy was the one more like Gary.