6 DOWN 10 TO GO---TAKE TWO---HOW MANY WINS DOES GB END UP WITH

[texaspackerbacker]

Who the hell is gonna beat us? I ask that question every year when trying to justify not predicting 16-0. Of course, that doesn't figure in the FRANCHISE getting injured. Even so, as I said the other day, we damn near beat the Vikings in Minny with Hundley green and shaky. He's obviously gonna get better, and virtually everybody we play going forward is not as good as the Vikings. Carolina is pretty good; Philadelphia is off to a hot start - probably not nearly as good as their early record; Pittsburgh probably is better than they have played up to now; I honestly don't even see them beating the Rodgers-less Packers - and we may not be Rodgers-less all season.

I'll take 11 in the poll, but I really don't see where the 3 other losses come from.

[mraynrand]

Who the hell is gonna beat us? I ask that question every year when trying to justify not predicting 16-0. Of course, that doesn't figure in the FRANCHISE getting injured. Even so, as I said the other day, we damn near beat the Vikings in Minny with Hundley green and shaky.

you crack me up. The injuries outside Rodgers are a huge factor - gotta get some supporting cast back, or there will be blood.

[hoosier]

The poll is flawed, options are illegitimately restricted. I am sticking with my original prediction in the Predict Packers W/L poll started by Joe in September http://packerrats.com/showthread.php...in-Loss-Record: 5 wins for the season.

[mraynrand]

The poll is flawed, options are illegitimately restricted. I am sticking with my original prediction in the Predict Packers W/L poll started by Joe in September http://packerrats.com/showthread.php...in-Loss-Record: 5 wins for the season.

You're doing it wrong

[texaspackerbacker]

you crack me up. The injuries outside Rodgers are a huge factor - gotta get some supporting cast back, or there will be blood.

You always expect some injuries. My point of view is that Aaron Rodgers is such a hugely important factor in the Packers success that pretty much no group of injuries of lesser players within reasonable expectation at all would derail the Packers. That is at least in part because of the general mediocrity of that supporting cast. In other words, to a great extent, the replacements that we do or don't get at this point aren't gonna make a helluva lot of difference one way or the other.

Maybe that's contradictory with my prediction of continued success this season even without Aaron Rodgers. I'm not real concerned about that contradiction - this is a forum; opinion is what opinion is, no more, no less.

[mraynrand]

You always expect some injuries. My point of view is that Aaron Rodgers is such a hugely important factor in the Packers success that pretty much no group of injuries of lesser players within reasonable expectation at all would derail the Packers. That is at least in part because of the general mediocrity of that supporting cast. In other words, to a great extent, the replacements that we do or don't get at this point aren't gonna make a helluva lot of difference one way or the other.

Maybe that's contradictory with my prediction of continued success this season even without Aaron Rodgers. I'm not real concerned about that contradiction - this is a forum; opinion is what opinion is, no more, no less.

I disagree with the general perception that the Packers are all mediocre except Rodgers.

[texaspackerbacker]

I disagree with the general perception that the Packers are all mediocre except Rodgers.

And I disagree with your disagreement - personnel-wise anyway. Hundley. though, has to be one of the best backup QBs in the league - or at least he was when he was a backup.

[mraynrand]

And I disagree with your disagreement - personnel-wise anyway. Hundley. though, has to be one of the best backup QBs in the league - or at least he was when he was a backup.

Your assessment of Hundley as best back up is based on what exactly?

[Maxie the Taxi]

Who the hell is gonna beat us? I ask that question every year when trying to justify not predicting 16-0. Of course, that doesn't figure in the FRANCHISE getting injured. Even so, as I said the other day, we damn near beat the Vikings in Minny with Hundley green and shaky. He's obviously gonna get better, and virtually everybody we play going forward is not as good as the Vikings. Carolina is pretty good; Philadelphia is off to a hot start - probably not nearly as good as their early record; Pittsburgh probably is better than they have played up to now; I honestly don't even see them beating the Rodgers-less Packers - and we may not be Rodgers-less all season.

I'll take 11 in the poll, but I really don't see where the 3 other losses come from.

I think when I first hurriedly ran through the schedule and predicted a 9-7 finish, I had Seattle, Atlanta, Dallas and Minnesota beating us in the 1st 6 games. Arod saved our bacon against Dallas and Cinncinnati.

Who's gonna beat us from this point on? The Saints, Steelers, Detroit twice, Minnesota and the Panthers at home. That's 8 losses right there unless my math is off. All the teams above have great QB's except the Queens. But all these can be beaten with a great pass rush, a competent secondary and the ability to score 30 points or more a game. We've got little reliable pass rush, a leaky secondary and, now, no Arod to compensate for our banged up Oline and work his magic scoring points.

I'll be pleasantly surprised of course if I'm wrong. If Hundley turns out to be the second coming of Dak Prescott which you think he is, then all bets are off.

[mraynrand]

Arod saved our bacon against Dallas and Cinncinnati.

You mean when he threw the pick six?

[Maxie the Taxi]

You mean when he threw the pick six?

haha At my age all these games seem to run together...but didn't Arod engineer a last second TD to send the game into OT as well?

[denverYooper]

You mean when he threw the pick six?

They might have beat Atlanta, too, if he hadn't practically handed them 14 points.

[mraynrand]

They might have beat Atlanta, too, if he hadn't practically handed them 14 points.

[Pugger]

I found a link to this article on another Packers' forum and I thought it was interesting. The author is addressing the notion our roster stinks outside of Rodgers. He notes that the assessment of the players is when they are healthy and not how the situation is right now.

https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/2...t-ted-thompson

[beveaux1]

I found a link to this article on another Packers' forum and I thought it was interesting. The author is addressing the notion our roster stinks outside of Rodgers. He notes that the assessment of the players is when they are healthy and not how the situation is right now.

https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/2...t-ted-thompson

This article probably shows how much I take this roster for granted. The problem is that this is a QB driven league and the drop off from best QB in the league to Hundley may be too much to overcome.

[mraynrand]

I'll be pleasantly surprised of course if I'm wrong. If Hundley turns out to be the second coming of Dak Prescott which you think he is, then all bets are off.

I'm somewhat surprised Tex isn't still predicting 16 wins.

[texaspackerbacker]

I think when I first hurriedly ran through the schedule and predicted a 9-7 finish, I had Seattle, Atlanta, Dallas and Minnesota beating us in the 1st 6 games. Arod saved our bacon against Dallas and Cinncinnati.

Who's gonna beat us from this point on? The Saints, Steelers, Detroit twice, Minnesota and the Panthers at home. That's 8 losses right there unless my math is off. All the teams above have great QB's except the Queens. But all these can be beaten with a great pass rush, a competent secondary and the ability to score 30 points or more a game. We've got little reliable pass rush, a leaky secondary and, now, no Arod to compensate for our banged up Oline and work his magic scoring points.

I'll be pleasantly surprised of course if I'm wrong. If Hundley turns out to be the second coming of Dak Prescott which you think he is, then all bets are off.

Well, you're entitled to your opinion hahahahaha.

Yeah, I don't see Hundley as that much worse than Prescott, especially considering that Prescott has a decent O Line in front of him, and Hundley does not, even disregarding injuries.

What we have - instead of all those deficiencies you mentioned on defense - is an excellent coordinator who is a master of scheming and compensation.

You make a great case for negativity - here and in FYI hahahahaha. Sorry, I prefer the Pollyanna point of view.

[mraynrand]

Sorry, I prefer the Pollyanna point of view.

except regarding the roster outside Rodgers