I have put about a 45 minutes into watching film on this year's linebacker class, and I think in any other year none of these guys would be more than a 3rd pick. Maybe what my expectations are bullshit.
I have put about a 45 minutes into watching film on this year's linebacker class, and I think in any other year none of these guys would be more than a 3rd pick. Maybe what my expectations are bullshit.
May be also true at safety.Originally Posted by Deputy Nutz
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Forget your perfect offering
There is a crack, a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in - Leonard Cohen
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yikesMay be also true at safety.
so theres no way we draft that guy
He's coming off meniscus surgery. I wonder if he tried to work out too early.
Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget your perfect offering
There is a crack, a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in - Leonard Cohen
If that is the case, someone will get a steal if he drops to the third round. If it's not true, then that RAS is some serious suckage, right there. Not too far from my negative 4.23.
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Wow... yeah. That's... not good. Gute doesn't keep many sub 5 RAS guys on the roster, and he's not going to draft one high. You'd hope that he's not fully recovered from the knee surgery.
Nutz - you're not wrong about the LBs. Even the highly touted ones have some pretty meh or even bad moments if you watch the full game vs. a highlight video.
2024 is a bad year to go into the draft needing LB, because if you have to draft one this year, you're spending more than you would other years. The guy you draft in the 3rd may be a guy you'd have gotten in the 4th or even 5th the year before or after, but if you have a hole that needs filling, you bite the bullet and spend it. I'm still hoping we find something useful in free agency.
I tried this argument on a date once, and got punched in the face.
Maybe Guter will draft three safeties and three linebackers in rounds four through seven, and see how they shake out.
I did see they brought in a defensive lineman from OSU for a visit. I'm not against that - but in Hafley's defense, are there most often only two defensive linemen on the field at one time (not counting the EDGE guys who line up as DE's)?
If so - and I don't know enough to know - then they've already got Clark, Slaton, Brooks, and Wooden for two spots. Is that right?
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wyatt?
yeah, we have no need to draft a fatty for defense this year
i also think we're gonna be trading up this year. we have too many picks. maybe package the 2 second rounders to get another pick in the first
or trade one of the seconds for a first next year, if someone falls that someone else really wants.
kinda looks like this year doesn't offer a whole lot of quality players at positions we need. bad year to have so many picks
I disagree. This draft is so fat at OL that we could easily find value with all 3 of our top picks at OL alone. And lets be honest. We could replace 2 starters on the OL and improve them quite easily. We also could use some interior depth.
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i thought about that, but we are so damn good at finding O-line in the mid to later rounds
imo, and its based on nothing, we have a better chance at finding a starter for the O-line in the mid rounds then we do any other position
Not nothing, you are basing it on Gutes past several drafts. Its valid, but when you get a chance to turn your OL into the best in the NFL with 2 good picks and it also happens to be where the value is, you shouldn't pass on it because you might find some quality in round 5.
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what exactly do we need at LB?
i'm guessing quay is still the MLB, is that still a sideline to sideline enforcer type like urlacher? or is it something different? or does he play one of the other two spots like WLB?
are weakside and strongside still a thing like they were when we last ran the 4-3? weakside = playmaker, strongside = thumper
or is that not a thing anymore,
what would the safety/LB hybrid play? is that the MLB?
what kind of player exactly do we need for those 2 spots?
Hard to say for sure because we haven't seen his defense yet, but most people seem to think he's looking for LBs along the lines of San Francisco's group - think Warner, Greenlaw, and Al-Shaair before he left. And he's stated that he prizes Quay highly. So fast, aggressive, hard-hitting LBs, with a mix of coverage skills and run-stopping ability.
Pretty much the universal model for the ideal linebacker; I guess the "type" he wants is "best possible all-around LB he can get".
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