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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz View Post
    Well, it was ugly, ugly, ugly. But how many times, with Aaron Rodgers at the helm, have we seen this team win ugly, ugly, ugly, and bitched and moaned afterward?

    Too many to count. So let's take the damn win and maybe Dr. Mckenzie will force Rodgers to play next week, like he tried to do with Martellus Bennett.
    There are no style points in the NFL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by George Cumby View Post
    There are no style points in the NFL.
    Truer words have never been spoken.

    You play to win the game.

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    However, Hundley as Captain Comeback (Kardiac Kids!) shows the lack of context with this stat.

    McCarthy still isn't sure how to construct an entire game plan with what Hundley does well. Which is throw short outside routes and slants and some RB check downs/screens. Deep stuff and comebacks are all hit or miss, mostly miss.

    So the first drive is new stuff and adjustments and with a fake punt it goes like gangbusters down the field. After that, for most of 3 quarters it looks like a death march.

    Then you are desperate and the opposing defense just doesn't want to give up a big play. So McCarthy puts him in shotgun and the defense lets the short stuff go. Hundley is more comfortable in shotgun, they are 4 or 5 wide and faces less immediate pressure. He makes reads faster and gets the ball out. Instead of runs, you get screens and check downs. It works like magic.
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    However, Hundley as Captain Comeback (Kardiac Kids!) shows the lack of context with this stat.

    McCarthy still isn't sure how to construct an entire game plan with what Hundley does well. Which is throw short outside routes and slants and some RB check downs/screens. Deep stuff and comebacks are all hit or miss, mostly miss.

    So the first drive is new stuff and adjustments and with a fake punt it goes like gangbusters down the field. After that, for most of 3 quarters it looks like a death march.

    Then you are desperate and the opposing defense just doesn't want to give up a big play. So McCarthy puts him in shotgun and the defense lets the short stuff go. Hundley is more comfortable in shotgun, they are 4 or 5 wide and faces less immediate pressure. He makes reads faster and gets the ball out. Instead of runs, you get screens and check downs. It works like magic.
    he also needs to figure out at some point that the kid is just a flat out different player when he's not under center

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    Quote Originally Posted by red View Post
    he also needs to figure out at some point that the kid is just a flat out different player when he's not under center
    Yeah. Problem is that is an entirely different offense then because you need to construct a running game from shotgun and most of their better RB runs come from under center.
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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    Further SPRIGGS update: He had one bad pass set, same as described earlier where his guy got upfield on him and chased Hundley on drive to tie game I think. Hundley salvaged the play and gained five yards.

    He had a couple of nice run blocks on those two last drives. Sealed his guy up well.
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Further SPRIGGS update: He had one bad pass set, same as described earlier where his guy got upfield on him and chased Hundley on drive to tie game I think. Hundley salvaged the play and gained five yards.

    He had a couple of nice run blocks on those two last drives. Sealed his guy up well.

    Here's a crazy idea. Maybe, like Randall, he's just inexperienced and is in need of seasoning and coaching. Perhaps, after a year or two he will be a reliable starter. Perhaps the injuries to Bacteria and to Bulaga put him the starting lineup before he was ready. I know TT, Stubby, Campen and all the rest should be flogged and shunned for him not playing better, but there might just be a typical normal explanation that doesn't involve hyperbole like TT has done a 'shitty job.' Because if TT is (hyperbole) horrible, terrible, etc. etc., then there's no adjectives left for Sashi Brown, right?
    "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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    Quote Originally Posted by mraynrand View Post
    Here's a crazy idea. Maybe, like Randall, he's just inexperienced and is in need of seasoning and coaching. Perhaps, after a year or two he will be a reliable starter. Perhaps the injuries to Bacteria and to Bulaga put him the starting lineup before he was ready. I know TT, Stubby, Campen and all the rest should be flogged and shunned for him not playing better, but there might just be a typical normal explanation that doesn't involve hyperbole like TT has done a 'shitty job.' Because if TT is (hyperbole) horrible, terrible, etc. etc., then there's no adjectives left for Sashi Brown, right?
    It is unrealistic for fans to expect young players to be All-Pros right away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mraynrand View Post
    Here's a crazy idea. Maybe, like Randall, he's just inexperienced and is in need of seasoning and coaching. Perhaps, after a year or two he will be a reliable starter. Perhaps the injuries to Bacteria and to Bulaga put him the starting lineup before he was ready. I know TT, Stubby, Campen and all the rest should be flogged and shunned for him not playing better, but there might just be a typical normal explanation that doesn't involve hyperbole like TT has done a 'shitty job.' Because if TT is (hyperbole) horrible, terrible, etc. etc., then there's no adjectives left for Sashi Brown, right?
    All pros at every position at every tier on the depth chart. Anything else just proves that they don’t want to win at 1265.

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    Quote Originally Posted by esoxx View Post
    Truer words have never been spoken.

    You play to win the game.
    You should be out recruiting Herm.
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by George Cumby View Post
    There are no style points in the NFL.
    I always figured this phrase was popularized by someone who ran with the ball like Chester Marcol

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