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    Janis' head is harder than Finley's apparently. I wonder how many ways they have attempted to get him to absorb the info he needs to read a defense.

    At this point, its not about drills in practice, its about recognition of a look from the opponent.
    It doesn't help him when Rodgers pouts. Janis is a special talent, they NEED to find a way to help him figure things out. Everyone learns differently, some people are very hands on. Maybe Janis needs to learn in game type situations. The other possibility is maybe he will never get it. I hope that's not the case as imo he's a better talent than Adams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post



    As 2nd vice president of the Jeff Janis Sniffers Club, I'm standing by the man; he's differently enabled - and how!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rutnstrut View Post
    It doesn't help him when Rodgers pouts. Janis is a special talent, they NEED to find a way to help him figure things out. Everyone learns differently, some people are very hands on. Maybe Janis needs to learn in game type situations. The other possibility is maybe he will never get it. I hope that's not the case as imo he's a better talent than Adams.
    Adams has to force off two defenders to catch the ball. Janis gives up the pick (something Adams got skewered for last season) and you say he is better? Hahaha!! Maybe Rodgers should pull him by his facemask and explain it to him. Is that hands on enough?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rutnstrut View Post
    It doesn't help him when Rodgers pouts. Janis is a special talent, they NEED to find a way to help him figure things out. Everyone learns differently, some people are very hands on. Maybe Janis needs to learn in game type situations. The other possibility is maybe he will never get it. I hope that's not the case as imo he's a better talent than Adams.
    I don't know if Rodgers is productive with Janis (at this point I doubt anything is), but it doesn't sound like pouting. He gave each of the receivers a reminder of what they just saw and what they should do if they see it again. Including Janis.

    Though I am still concerned there is a McCarthy offense (which worried me because "fundamentals", no-huddle and Schottenheimer-itis) and a Rodgers version of that offense.

    The Janis as a talent question is bigger than Rodgers: what kind of offense are you running that the best athletic talent you have had since Sterling Sharpe at WR cannot be incorporated. He's not dumb but they haven't figured it out. Heads should roll on the staff for this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    I don't know if Rodgers is productive with Janis (at this point I doubt anything is), but it doesn't sound like pouting. He gave each of the receivers a reminder of what they just saw and what they should do if they see it again. Including Janis.

    Though I am still concerned there is a McCarthy offense (which worried me because "fundamentals", no-huddle and Schottenheimer-itis) and a Rodgers version of that offense.

    The Janis as a talent question is bigger than Rodgers: what kind of offense are you running that the best athletic talent you have had since Sterling Sharpe at WR cannot be incorporated. He's not dumb but they haven't figured it out. Heads should roll on the staff for this.
    That's just it, Janis isn't a dumb guy. Maybe he doesn't have a good "feel" for the intricacies of pro football; but he certainly puts in a good effort, and his team mates have begun talking about how passionate he is about playing. He has a combination of speed, size and strength that is not common. By now the coaching staff should have figured out a way to make use of the physical talent he has. Maybe not for a lot of plays each game, but he should be able to contribute. Sometimes you have to modify what you do in order to use the players you have and what they are capable of.

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    MORE NEWS from today. A couple thoughs

    JANIS is nicknamed the chosen one by some reporters. Every time he catches the ball the crowd erupts in cheers. He's everybody's fave.

    The Packers rook has looked as good or better than any WR on the team so far. Lots of press hype about the rook.
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    MORE NEWS from today. A couple thoughs

    JANIS is nicknamed the chosen one by some reporters. Every time he catches the ball the crowd erupts in cheers. He's everybody's fave.

    The Packers rook has looked as good or better than any WR on the team so far. Lots of press hype about the rook.
    If I was there, I'd certainly be cheering Janis catch. If he plays up to his potential, that does more to upgrade the offense than basically anything other than Aaron Rodgers staying healthy. I hope Davis comes through big too, but I just bet they let him sit on the bench for a couple of years like Janis no matter how well he does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
    If I was there, I'd certainly be cheering Janis catch. If he plays up to his potential, that does more to upgrade the offense than basically anything other than Aaron Rodgers staying healthy. I hope Davis comes through big too, but I just bet they let him sit on the bench for a couple of years like Janis no matter how well he does.
    This is ridiculous. How did the Packers offense go in 2014 or before? Janis never contributed in any meaningful way and yet we were top 5 in offense every year.

    We missed three things last year. 1. A true #1 WR in Jordy Nelson. 2. A running attack and not a fat slug. 3. ARod's pinpoint accuracy was off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThunderDan View Post
    This is ridiculous. How did the Packers offense go in 2014 or before? Janis never contributed in any meaningful way and yet we were top 5 in offense every year.

    We missed three things last year. 1. A true #1 WR in Jordy Nelson. 2. A running attack and not a fat slug. 3. ARod's pinpoint accuracy was off.
    This fascination with Janis by the fans and the media is crazy. The kid is big and fast but if he has problems reading what the defense is doing he's gonna always struggle in this offense. From what I can garner from afar the receivers have to be in a certain spot according to what the defense is doing. Too bad we can't put Janis' body with Abby's brain...

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    Quote Originally Posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
    I hope Davis comes through big too, but I just bet they let him sit on the bench for a couple of years like Janis no matter how well he does.
    Again, this part makes no sense either. The coaches will not sit their best players just because they are rookies.

    It sounds like Davis is doing some great things in camp so far. It will be a matter of how quickly he picks up the whole playbook and the concepts of the Packer offense. I can't think of a better year to be a rookie WR on the Packers. Last year the offense was the main problem and the WR corp was average at best.

    If you can come in a show that you are better than Adams, Monty, Abby and Janis you are the starting 3rd WR in GB. That is assuming Nelson comes back at full strength.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThunderDan View Post
    Again, this part makes no sense either. The coaches will not sit their best players just because they are rookies.

    It sounds like Davis is doing some great things in camp so far. It will be a matter of how quickly he picks up the whole playbook and the concepts of the Packer offense. I can't think of a better year to be a rookie WR on the Packers. Last year the offense was the main problem and the WR corp was average at best.

    If you can come in a show that you are better than Adams, Monty, Abby and Janis you are the starting 3rd WR in GB. That is assuming Nelson comes back at full strength.
    +1 and then some. Greg Jennings started week 1 as a rookie, and didn't look back for 6 years. He's not going to be a starter because he would have to beat out Cobb instead of Ferguson, but he could be the #3 week 1 if he has that good a camp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rutnstrut View Post
    It doesn't help him when Rodgers pouts. Janis is a special talent, they NEED to find a way to help him figure things out. Everyone learns differently, some people are very hands on. Maybe Janis needs to learn in game type situations. The other possibility is maybe he will never get it. I hope that's not the case as imo he's a better talent than Adams.
    Janis is physically gifted but by all account not too bright. He's Bill Schroeder 2.0. Once he figures out how to run something other than a 9, he'll be productive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rutnstrut View Post
    It doesn't help him when Rodgers pouts. Janis is a special talent, they NEED to find a way to help him figure things out. Everyone learns differently, some people are very hands on. Maybe Janis needs to learn in game type situations. The other possibility is maybe he will never get it. I hope that's not the case as imo he's a better talent than Adams.
    If 11 on 11 drills are not 'game type' enough for him, all in favor of putting Janis in games that count raise their hand. Thought so, 1...Jeff, you don't get a vote!
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