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    Quote Originally Posted by bobblehead View Post
    So woody, who would you have picked instead of Hawk? You have to drop to the 12th pick, Haloti Ngata, to find someone with a clear cut better career than Hawk. Vernon Davis, Michael Huff, ooohhh...Jay Cutler.
    There is so much that is LUCK and making a Draft Pick. The picks below were certainly productive game changers for their teams:

    12 Baltimore Ravens Haloti Ngata DT Oregon

    14 Philadelphia Eagles Brodrick Bunkley DT Florida State

    17 Minnesota Vikings Chad Greenway LB Iowa

    20 Kansas City Chiefs Tamba Hali DE Penn State

    I didn't look past the 2oth Pick; that wasn't a good Draft overall as I recall it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by woodbuck27 View Post
    There is so much that is LUCK and making a Draft Pick. The picks below were certainly productive game changers for their teams:

    12 Baltimore Ravens Haloti Ngata DT Oregon

    14 Philadelphia Eagles Brodrick Bunkley DT Florida State

    17 Minnesota Vikings Chad Greenway LB Iowa

    20 Kansas City Chiefs Tamba Hali DE Penn State

    I didn't look past the 2oth Pick; that wasn't a good Draft overall as I recall it.
    You sort of prove my point though. No one...NO ONE would have made any of those picks at #5....except in hindsight.
    I don't hold Grudges. It's counterproductive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobblehead View Post
    You sort of prove my point though. No one...NO ONE would have made any of those picks at #5....except in hindsight.
    However you choose to 'slice and dice it'.

    TT doesn't Draft well on'D' and that fact is certainly obvious (See Post #42).
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    Quote Originally Posted by woodbuck27 View Post
    However you choose to 'slice and dice it'.

    TT doesn't Draft well on'D' and that fact is certainly obvious (See Post #42).
    I won't defend TT much in this regard, but like all articles they cherry pick a bit to make their predetermined point. If TT had resigned Micah Hyde and Casey Hayward things look a lot better right now. Kenny Clark looks like a winner to me so far. Martinez and Lowry look like NFL talent. I wanted Watt, but King was my second choice and Josh Jones has me interested. If all these young guys come on and stop getting concussions it could make up for a few bad drafts. King is key here. We need a guy to emerge as a semi shut down CB. House is ok as a 2 and after that you rely on scheme and not getting bad matchups. I like our safety and DL situations. Can 2 of the 3, Perry, Mathews, Brooks stay healthy?

    Just like last year the sudden end of Sam Shields career is hurting us. We lack CB talent and the little we have keeps getting hurt. Again, my expectations are reasonable. .500 without rodgers against the softer part of our schedule. If that doesn't happen heads must roll. If that doesn't happen with your hand crafted 3rd year backup its all true. Rodgers has been saving your ass for this long.
    I don't hold Grudges. It's counterproductive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobblehead View Post
    I won't defend TT much in this regard, but like all articles they cherry pick a bit to make their predetermined point. If TT had resigned Micah Hyde and Casey Hayward things look a lot better right now. Kenny Clark looks like a winner to me so far. Martinez and Lowry look like NFL talent. I wanted Watt, but King was my second choice and Josh Jones has me interested. If all these young guys come on and stop getting concussions it could make up for a few bad drafts. King is key here. We need a guy to emerge as a semi shut down CB. House is ok as a 2 and after that you rely on scheme and not getting bad matchups. I like our safety and DL situations. Can 2 of the 3, Perry, Mathews, Brooks stay healthy?

    Just like last year the sudden end of Sam Shields career is hurting us. We lack CB talent and the little we have keeps getting hurt. Again, my expectations are reasonable. .500 without rodgers against the softer part of our schedule. If that doesn't happen heads must roll. If that doesn't happen with your hand crafted 3rd year backup its all true. Rodgers has been saving your ass for this long.
    This stands out in your post:

    " Rodgers has been saving your (TT's) ass for this long."

    That is really too obvious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by woodbuck27 View Post
    However you choose to 'slice and dice it'.

    TT doesn't Draft well on'D' and that fact is certainly obvious (See Post #42).
    Thompson drafted Daniels, Perry, Matthews, Clark, Lowry, Collins, found Shields and Tramon undrafted. To say he can't draft for D is stupid. To say he has a worse record than any other GM over specific timeframes is not what click-bait article writers do. They cherry pick data to get rubes to shout "FUCK YEAH" at their monitors so they can feel justified in their own mis-assertions.

    Instead of saying Thompson can't draft D, stack up the rest of the league's hits and misses year over year. Then do it by round. You know, make a statement with facts instead of opinions. You won't because it doesn't fit your self created narrative.
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    This is museum quality stupidity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zool View Post
    Thompson drafted Daniels, Perry, Matthews, Clark, Lowry, Collins, found Shields and Tramon undrafted. To say he can't draft for D is stupid. To say he has a worse record than any other GM over specific timeframes is not what click-bait article writers do. They cherry pick data to get rubes to shout "FUCK YEAH" at their monitors so they can feel justified in their own mis-assertions.

    Instead of saying Thompson can't draft D, stack up the rest of the league's hits and misses year over year. Then do it by round. You know, make a statement with facts instead of opinions. You won't because it doesn't fit your self created narrative.
    WOW !

    OK ..OK Ted Thompson and the Green Bay Packers have really really shitty LUCK !

    Tear after year after year after Year...... Bad Luck !

    Sports writers and NFL Media Experts don't have a clue. What are they paid for?

    Head scratch.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by woodbuck27 View Post
    OK ..OK Ted Thompson and the Green Bay Packers have really really shitty LUCK !

    Year after year after year after Year...... Bad Luck !

    Sports writers and NFL Media Experts don't have a clue. What are they paid for?

    QFT
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    Quote Originally Posted by woodbuck27 View Post
    WOW !

    OK ..OK Ted Thompson and the Green Bay Packers have really really shitty LUCK !

    Tear after year after year after Year...... Bad Luck !

    Sports writers and NFL Media Experts don't have a clue. What are they paid for?

    Head scratch.....
    Much like you, they don't back any of their assertions up with facts only opinions.
    Quote Originally Posted by 3irty1 View Post
    This is museum quality stupidity.

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