More Banjo: @ Saints Week Oh Who the *$%&! Cares

[Fritz]

What a shock that when the Packers lose, they lose to superior teams (49ers in the playoffs), teams that match up well with them (Giants), or when they lose Rodgers to injury (Bears, possibly could argue New Orleans). And Shocking that the networks would want to broadcast playoff games, games pitting the better teams against one another, and teams with good QBs who can score the ball.

To repeat: Very good teams like the Packers routinely beat the teams they should and are in most of their games. They lose to better teams, in the playoffs, and to teams that match up well with them (i.e. can rush the passer with four and drop up to 7 in coverage), or when they are injured. There is no secret to why the Packers lose certain games.

Clefty thought he would never hear the idiotic, panic-stricken, naive, pathetic "They are wasting the best years of so-and-so's career" comment again, but being moronic and irrationally emotive are hallmarks of the worst of fandom. Great players make their teams great, which improves their records, and dramatically reduces their ability to obtain more great players in the draft, hurting their chances of winning. This is what the NFL wants - mediocrity and competitive games across the schedule. This shouldn't be a forgotten truth by so many fans, but alas Clefty should be used to insane, petulant, tantrum-throwing, permanently adolescent fans by now.

Call me petulant, call me adolescent, call me what you will, but the eternal pictures in my mind from that game are, first, that of Drew Brees dropping back, looking....and looking....and looking. Ordering a sandwich, and looking some more. Then finding - gasp! - an open receiver.n The second picture is that of watching the Packer defensive linemen and linebackers being walled off like 98 lb weaklings while Mark Ingram rumbled past.


Man, that was like watching a flashback to the 2011 defense. Ugly. Yes, Cutler would've splintered that defense. You give a second-tier QB that kind of time, and he'll find guys open.

[ThunderDan]

Call me petulant, call me adolescent, call me what you will, but the eternal pictures in my mind from that game are, first, that of Drew Brees dropping back, looking....and looking....and looking. Ordering a sandwich, and looking some more. Then finding - gasp! - an open receiver.n The second picture is that of watching the Packer defensive linemen and linebackers being walled off like 98 lb weaklings while Mark Ingram rumbled past.


Man, that was like watching a flashback to the 2011 defense. Ugly. Yes, Cutler would've splintered that defense. You give a second-tier QB that kind of time, and he'll find guys open.

Except we did play Cutler a few weeks back and won with that D. Of course he did throw for a lot of yards too.

[Patler]

Except we did play Cutler a few weeks back and won with that D. Of course he did throw for a lot of yards too.

Yes and no. Maybe the same scheme, but with Dante Jones who had a sack against the Bears, Shields who had an interception against the Bears and Burnett who had 13 tackles against the Bears.

[ThunderDan]

Yes and no. Maybe the same scheme, but with Dante Jones who had a sack against the Bears, Shields who had an interception against the Bears and Burnett who had 13 tackles against the Bears.

I did mention in the Game Day thread that Burnett would have gotten to the deep bomb that went for a TD while Hyde was 4 feet short.

[Patler]

I did mention in the Game Day thread that Burnett would have gotten to the deep bomb that went for a TD while Hyde was 4 feet short.

I will always wonder how different the defense might have been, and how playoff results might have differed, if the starting safeties the last four years were Burnett and Collins.

[Fritz]

Except we did play Cutler a few weeks back and won with that D. Of course he did throw for a lot of yards too.

Yes, but I was referring to the question above as to whether a second-tier QB could've done as well as Brees did. My point is that if you give even a second tier QB the kind of time Brees had, he'd tear up that defense.

So if you gave Jay Cutler the time Brees had, I believe he'd tear up your D. When the Packers played the Bears, VaJayJay didn't have that kind of time.