HOW MANY TD'S DOES AROD THROW

[Bretsky]

WHAT DO YOU THINK ????

[BF4MVP]

22 TDs 12 picks

[oregonpackfan]

It depends on how many games he lasts through the season without getting injured--his biggest question mark, IMO.

[]{ilr]3]

17-23 sound good. I am still hoping that TT does something to suppliment the running game with the addition of Warrick Dunn. That should really help out A-rod IMO.

[woodbuck27]

I voted 17-23 but that man has to catch some luck with being able to stand the heat and punishment or he's on his way.

You can run straight ahead easily if the opening preasents itself.Then you must realize when to sink your feet downfield. Aaron has to gain pockert awareness and move better laterally and back and get rid of the ball faster. He does seem a tad fragile to me.

He needs to strengthen his body. He's like a china cup.

Packers Forever.

[Lurker64]

I'm going to say exactly 24.

[BallHawk]

Well, if a QB like Philip Rivers in his first season starting can throw 22 TDs, I can see no reason why A-Rod can't top that. A-Rod is just as talented, arguably more talented, than Rivers. Rodgers has sat behind Favre and has a top 5 group of WRs, as well as a solid running game. He has all the tools he needs to put up good numbers. The only question is does he have the talent and can he suit up every Sunday.

I say he can.

26 TDs for A-Rod.

[Partial]

10-16.

I am gonna call it right now that our offense will be in trouble without Favre unless some pieces are added.

Ballhawk, you're also ignoring that Rivers had the best TE in the league as well as the best player in the league requiring 8 or 9 guys in the box. C'mon man.

[BallHawk]

10-16.

I am gonna call it right now that our offense will be in trouble without Favre unless some pieces are added.

Ballhawk, you're also ignoring that Rivers had the best TE in the league as well as the best player in the league requiring 8 or 9 guys in the box. C'mon man.

Yeah, and Rivers' starting WRs were Vincent Jackson and Eric Parker. I'm not ignoring the fact that that Rivers had those assests, but Rodgers certainly has weapons that Rivers didn't have. I could go back and find more QBs that succeeded in the first starting season, Philip Rivers is just one that comes to mind.

[b bulldog]

17-23

[red]

i went 24+

most of favres td's and yards last year came because of the wr's not favre

all a-rod has to do is get the ball in driver, jennings, and jones' hands on the short passes, and they'll do the rest

run the system, and it will work. a-rod showed last year he could stick to the plan and run the system

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

16 td 20 ints

[Bretsky]

I would say 14-18 because I'm not convinced our new QB will be healthy the whole year. I decided to be optimistic and go with 17-23 on the poll

[Joemailman]

In 2007, 17-23 TD passes would have you ranked 11-16 in TD passes. That sounds about right for A-Rod. Of course, he may also be a threat to run a few in, which is one area (Maybe the only one) where he will be an improvement over Favre. What we should all be hoping is that Ryan Grant will rank as high in rushing TD's as ARod does in passing TD's.

[denverYooper]

What, no 30+?

:lol:

[Deputy Nutz]

I claim that he will throw 24 touchdown passes this season. He will also throw 15 ints and he will start all 16 regular season games.

[Tony Oday]

25 TDs for sure easy. He will throw 14 INTs and have 2 TDs and no picks in the Super Bowl this year!

[RashanGary]

I straddled the fence because I have no idea. I really like his attitude and the way he's played in recent preseasons as well as in the Cowboy game. On the other hand, you never know what you have until you see it on the field for 16 games.

I said 17-23, but if he's as good as he looked in the Dallas game it could easily be 30. He acctually came in and improved our team that game. Also, I don't think Favre had the benefit of teams selling out to stop the run very often. Rodgers might see riskier defenses, giving him more opportunities (esspecially in the redzone)

[Joemailman]

25 TDs for sure easy. He will throw 14 INTs and have 2 TDs and no picks in the Super Bowl this year!
http://blog.dirkschuetze.de/wp-content/Kool-AidMan.jpg

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

I just don't see him having a great td to pick ratio. Remember this is basically his rookie season. I don't see him passing for 25 td or something like that. Brett just had an MVP type season and he barely got that.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Am hoping that he's average to good this year and then has a great second season as a starter. I see Grant getting a lot of TD's if we address the o-line or if it improves from within.

[MadtownPacker]

I claim that he will throw 24 touchdown passes this season. He will also throw 15 ints and he will start all 16 regular season games.Big balls there. Gonna have to remember this thread.

17-23 passing TDs with 3 rushing TDs with about 16 picks is my vote.

[Cheesehead Craig]

30. He's gonna bust out like Dolly Parton.

[The Leaper]

20 seems about right to me...neither Driver or Jennings are big red zone threats, and Rodgers won't be threading the needle 6-8 times a year like Favre did.

I would expect Rodgers to get some decent yardage and a few TDs on the ground though. The naked bootleg in goalline situations will be much more available now.

[Deputy Nutz]

I claim that he will throw 24 touchdown passes this season. He will also throw 15 ints and he will start all 16 regular season games.Big balls there. Gonna have to remember this thread.

17-23 passing TDs with 3 rushing TDs with about 16 picks is my vote.

He broke his foot, and played the rest of the game with it broken, he then strained his hamstring, and he most likely could have played the following week but was held out because his playing wasn't crucial. It would have been the week that he hurt it if Favre couldn't have gone.

He is no Don Majikowski, he is solidly built and he hasn't had any shoulder or elbow problems. So I think his health will be fine. He didn't have any knee or leg problems in college. his body should be fresh, and especially going into camp being the starter his body will soon be a custom to playing every week.

[BF4MVP]

He didn't have any knee or leg problems in college.
Well, that's not entirely true, according to this excerpt from KFFL:


Rodgers repaired his partially torn ACL before the 2004 season after playing on it since his junior year in high school.

http://www.kffl.com/article/24223/160
I agree with the rest of your post though

[Deputy Nutz]

[quote=Deputy Nutz]He didn't have any knee or leg problems in college.
Actually he had a partially torn ACL at Cal..But I agree with the rest of your post.[/quote

NO!!!!

Forget it he is done.

[BF4MVP]

Well, it was surgically repaired before the '04 season which means that his big seasons at Cal came AFTER the surgery..It's not a problem anymore.

[Freak Out]

30 plus.....the Packers and Rogers will surprise again this year.
After Rogers and the receivers get the timing stuff down in the camps and pre-season they will light it up.

Look out!

[Green Bud Packer]

24-30. I think he can throw 30 +.

If Thomps can improve the "D' mainly in the secondary I see no reason the Pack won't be back in the N.F.C championship game.

[Deputy Nutz]

If the weather is ideal in the last part of the year, meaning unseasonably high temps then I think 30+ TDs is possible if Brett Favre was the QB, but most likely Rodgers will not in 2008, regardless of the temp. I think the Packers will be more conservative inside the 10 yard line and in goal line situations.

[Green Bud Packer]

If Rodgers takes care of the ball and keeps his picks to a minimun, later season, Mac might let it fly in the red zone.

[wist43]

I'm the only one that went with 0-9????

How can he throw more than 10 TD's in one game??? He'll suffer a high ankle sprain getting out of the shower after the first game.

Don't see him being able to take the pounding.

[Green Bud Packer]

I'm the only one that went with 0-9????

How can he throw more than 10 TD's in one game??? He'll suffer a high ankle sprain getting out of the shower after the first game.

Don't see him being able to take the pounding.

True. If he's injured how can he succeed.

I'll say he throws 1.8 tds a game

[Joemailman]

I'm the only one that went with 0-9????

It was put in there just for you Wist. :wink:

[The Leaper]

I'll say he throws 1.8 tds a game

So, better than Favre's career rate...in only his first season of play??

That kool-aid has GOT to be delicious that way some of you lap it up.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

I'll say he throws 1.8 tds a game

So, better than Favre's career rate...in only his first season of play??

That kool-aid has GOT to be delicious that way some of you lap it up.

Thats what am saying, it's not going to happen. Favre played lights out last year and he only got 28. No way does Rodgers get more than 20 IMO in his first season starting.

[Freak Out]

Hey...the snows melting and spring is near at hand! What I want to know is why there was no 40+ TD option? :lol:

[Deputy Nutz]

Leaper and Wist most be to of the most optimistic fellas around on Aaron Rodgers and life after Favre.

Leaper lept. Got mad at Favre for his reason of retirement, and now poo-poos Aaron Rodgers. Gonna be good season for you two.

[The Leaper]

Leaper lept. Got mad at Favre for his reason of retirement, and now poo-poos Aaron Rodgers. Gonna be good season for you two.

I'm not poo-pooing Rodgers. I'm just pointing out that it seems rather over-the-top to suggest he will do BETTER as a first-time starter than Favre did during his HOF career.

Rodgers can throw for 24 TDs, and he's still nowhere near 1.8 TDs a game over an entire season.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I'll say he throws 1.8 tds a game

So, better than Favre's career rate...in only his first season of play??

That kool-aid has GOT to be delicious that way some of you lap it up.

1.8 seems a little much to me. I predicted 17-23. However, passing TDs have gone up a bit since the turn of the century (outside of a couple odd years). 25 TDs now seems to be roughly equivalent to 20-22 TDs in the first half of Favre's career, so it's hard to compare the TDs or TD rate to even 10 years ago.

There were 10 QBs in 2007 that threw 26 or more TDs in 2007.

QBs that threw 25 or more TDs in Favre's MVP years:
5 in 1997 (Favre's 35 TDs were 6 more than the next QB)
4 in 1996 (Favre's 39 TDs were 6 more than the next QB)
7 in 1995 (Favre's 38 TDs were 5 more than the next QB)

Crazy that over those 3 years, no QB came within 5 TDs of Favre in any of those years. That should spell out just how damn good he was in his MVP years. He not only led the league each year, he crushed the league.

[ahaha]

Where's the 30+ option? Some of us might be a little more optimistic. The guy is a first round pick. He's had three years to learn, two under this offense. He inherits a young prolific offense. It's not completely inconcievable.

[RashanGary]

1.8 seems a little much to me. I predicted 17-23. However, passing TDs have gone up a bit since the turn of the century (outside of a couple odd years). 25 TDs now seems to be roughly equivalent to 20-22 TDs in the first half of Favre's career, so it's hard to compare the TDs or TD rate to even 10 years ago.

There were 10 QBs in 2007 that threw 26 or more TDs in 2007.

QBs that threw 25 or more TDs in Favre's MVP years:
5 in 1997 (Favre's 35 TDs were 6 more than the next QB)
4 in 1996 (Favre's 39 TDs were 6 more than the next QB)
7 in 1995 (Favre's 38 TDs were 5 more than the next QB)

Crazy that over those 3 years, no QB came within 5 TDs of Favre in any of those years. That should spell out just how damn good he was in his MVP years. He not only led the league each year, he crushed the league.


This post defines you. It blends your uncomfortable man lust for a guy who used to throw a football with your undying optimism for everything Packer in a way that I didn't think possible. Nice!!

[BooHoo]

I'll go with 23 TDs and 16 INTs. We make the playoffs again.

[Tony Oday]

I want wist not to like him...he doesnt like Barnett and he had a GREAT year...keep it on and Ill keep drinking...

:alc:

[Joemailman]

Partial was such a pessimist. :razz:. Actually, most were slightly on the pessimistic side. Typically, Bretsky didn't give the true Kool-aid drinkers an option. :huh:. (No 30+ option.)

[bobblehead]

I just voted now. I think I'll be close.