Unlikely Pimp

[Harlan Huckleby]

Oh my God. This is too rich, of all people.
I gotta watch Letterman tonight.

Spitzer Is Linked to Prostitution Ring

By DANNY HAKIM
Published: March 10, 2008
ALBANY - Gov. Eliot Spitzer has informed his most senior administration officials that he had been involved in a prostitution ring, an administration official said this morning.


Mr. Spitzer, who was huddled with his top aides early this afternoon, had hours earlier abruptly canceled his scheduled public events for the day. He is set to make an announcement about 2:15 this afternoon at his Manhattan office.

Mr. Spitzer, a first-term Democrat who pledged to bring ethics reform and end the often seamy ways of Albany, is married with three children.

Just last week, federal prosecutors arrested four people in connection with an expensive prostitution operation. Administration officials would not say that this was the ring with which the governor had become involved.

He had a difficult first year in office, rocked by a mix of scandal and legislative setbacks. In recent weeks, however, Mr. Spitzer seemed to have rebounded, with his Democratic party poised to perhaps gain control of the state Senate for the first time in four decades.

Mr. Spitzer gained national attention when he served as attorney general with his relentless pursuit of Wall Street wrongdoing. As attorney general, he also had prosecuted at least two prostitution rings as head of the state’s organized crime task force.

In one such case in 2004, Mr. Spitzer spoke with revulsion and anger after announcing the arrest of 16 people for operating a high-end prostitution ring out of Staten Island.

“”This was a sophisticated and lucrative operation with a multitiered management structure,” Mr. Spitzer said at the time. ”It was, however, nothing more than a prostitution ring.”

Albany for months been roiled by bitter fighting and accusations of dirty tricks. The Albany County district attorney is set to issue in the coming days the results of his investigation into Mr. Spitzer’s first scandal, his aides’ involvement in an effort to tarnish Majority Leader Joseph L. Bruno, the state’s top Republican.

[Freak Out]

Working them? Protecting? Fucking?

[Harlan Huckleby]

Working them? Protecting? Fucking?

whatever you want, slick. step inside.

[hoosier]

Sounds like he was a client, not a pimp. According to the Wash Post, Emperor's Club ranks their putas from one to seven diamonds, with seven diamonds going for a whopping $5,500 per hour. I wonder how many diamonds Eliot was willing to spring for....In any case, I hope it was worth it.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Sounds like he was a client, not a pimp.

Sorry that I bothered to post the story. Early reports said he was involved in a prositution ring. Big deal, he went to a prostitute.

[hoosier]

Sounds like he was a client, not a pimp.

Sorry that I bothered to post the story. Early reports said he was involved in a prositution ring. Big deal, he went to a prostitute.

You probably had a vision of this dancing through your head.

http://www.lagorgona.es/articulos/Taxidriver/TaxiDriverKeitel.jpg

[Joemailman]

Sounds like he was a client, not a pimp.

Sorry that I bothered to post the story. Early reports said he was involved in a prositution ring. Big deal, he went to a prostitute.

I wonder if this will have any ramifications in the Presidential race, as Spitzer is a Clinton supporter. Of Course, the Clintons had nothing to do with this...as far as I know.

[Freak Out]

I think Bubba was a reference for Spitz so he could get in. :)

Prostitution should be legal.

[Harlan Huckleby]

ya know, you got hot women sleeping with wealthy men for a lot of money. Consenting adult stuff, why is the government involved?

[Freak Out]

ya know, you got hot women sleeping with wealthy men for a lot of money. Consenting adult stuff, why is the government involved?

I blame the Pilgrims.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Of Course, the Clintons had nothing to do with this...as far as I know.

The sleazy Obama cultists continue their disgusting mudslinging. "as far as I know" - how devious. These filthy power grabbers are worse than whores, they lie as easily as decent people say "looks to be a nice day."

I only wish we could end the politics as usual and have a respectful debate.

[Scott Campbell]

Bill:

Elliot, repeat after me. I did not have sex with that hooker.

That depends on what the meaning of "is" is.

Would you like a cigar?

[BallHawk]

Sounds like he was a client, not a pimp.

Sorry that I bothered to post the story. Early reports said he was involved in a prositution ring. Big deal, he went to a prostitute.

I wonder if this will have any ramifications in the Presidential race, as Spitzer is a Clinton supporter. Of Course, the Clintons had nothing to do with this...as far as I know.

A watcher of Chris Matthews, are we? :D

[HarveyWallbangers]

ya know, you got hot women sleeping with wealthy men for a lot of money. Consenting adult stuff, why is the government involved?

You are too funny. "Big deal" that the GOVERNOR of New York was involved in a prostitution ring?

Whether it should be legal or not is one issue, but this dickhead thought this was a good idea and/or he could get away with it?

[digitaldean]

This goofball went after prostitution rings as AG of NY. He solicits a hooker, which is illegal last time I checked. On top of that he flew the hooker to DC, plus forwarded money to the "Emperors Club". This all falls under interstate lines, thus we are getting into federal offenses.

This AG didn't win a lot of cases toward the end of his AG career, but he arm-twisted a lot of defendants into settlements. He did this to Strong Funds in Milwaukee, which sold out to Wells Fargo to avoid prosecution over practices that were not the straightest, but were not illegal. May not sound like a big deal, but it meant over 100 Milwaukee people lost their jobs because of it.

I hate clowns like this or McGreevey from NJ who screw around on their wife then after they're caught trot out the wife to stand by their side. I feel so bad for the wife and the children in this situation.

He should resign immediately, but I fear he's waiting to get the best deal from the Feds so he can save his own sorry ass.

[falco]

was the chick hot? cuz a politician having sex with a hot prostitute is better than a politician having sex with an ugly intern

[Freak Out]

This goofball went after prostitution rings as AG of NY. He solicits a hooker, which is illegal last time I checked. On top of that he flew the hooker to DC, plus forwarded money to the "Emperors Club". This all falls under interstate lines, thus we are getting into federal offenses.

This AG didn't win a lot of cases toward the end of his AG career, but he arm-twisted a lot of defendants into settlements. He did this to Strong Funds in Milwaukee, which sold out to Wells Fargo to avoid prosecution over practices that were not the straightest, but were not illegal. May not sound like a big deal, but it meant over 100 Milwaukee people lost their jobs because of it.

I hate clowns like this or McGreevey from NJ who screw around on their wife then after they're caught trot out the wife to stand by their side. I feel so bad for the wife and the children in this situation.

He should resign immediately, but I fear he's waiting to get the best deal from the Feds so he can save his own sorry ass.

I have to say I am a little surprised he has not resigned and would not be shocked to see some charges brought against him. Bottom line is another fool lets sex possibly ruin his family and career.

[Harlan Huckleby]

ya know, you got hot women sleeping with wealthy men for a lot of money. Consenting adult stuff, why is the government involved?

You are too funny. "Big deal" that the GOVERNOR of New York was involved in a prostitution ring?

Whether it should be legal or not is one issue, but this dickhead thought this was a good idea and/or he could get away with it?

I was listening to a former madame & writes books about prostitution on the radio. She made point that the use of the word "ring" is a ridiculous and melodramatic term. Its a goddamn whorehouse, or escort service, not a "ring."

No, I don't think it is a big deal. Its a funny story. He's guilty of hypocracy since he was such a moral and legal crusader. A powerful man going outside of his marriage for sex is a tiny story.

And far as him being a scum bag: the flesh is weak. Some people have a strong psychological need to get themselves some strange. Its a very human thing, I'm glad I don't have that terrible urge myself. Same deal with Bill Clinton and Monica.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I have to say I am a little surprised he has not resigned and would not be shocked to see some charges brought against him. Bottom line is another fool lets sex possibly ruin his family and career.

Hell, I did something irrational and self-destructive within the last hour. Most people have their weaknesses.

He was paying huge bucks for that sex. It was probably something really kinky.

It is pathetic. But when you get to know people really well, must of us have some unusual thoughts or behaviors.

[The Leaper]

Hell, I did something irrational and self-destructive within the last hour. Most people have their weaknesses.

Yes, most people do. So you are suggesting we look the other way because of that?

The bottom line is that this is not a big deal if he was an average joe.

However, he isn't an average joe. He happens to be a state governor who is in charge of the things like the National Guard and the state police force where his private behavior does impact the public interest. With greater power comes greater responsibility...which makes it a very big deal. If you can't be trusted in such minor matters as this, how can you be trusted in matters of greater impact?

[Jimx29]

wonders if he Spitzer swallows

[Freak Out]

Hmmmmm...

http://machinist.salon.com/blog/2008/03/11/emperors_club/index.html

[Harlan Huckleby]

Barney Franks got caught with a young lover who was prostituting himself out and stealing from ole Barn.

Senator David Vitter got caught with his pants down six months ago, didn't hear a lot of talk about him resigning.

Larry Craig rebounded from his wide stance ordeal, is still in Senate.

There is always a flurry of righteous fun when sex scandals break out.

Spitzer looks vulnerable. But I certainly hope he rides this out. I think his behaviour is the sort of thing that voters can decide on at the election booth. Politicians should resign for serious crimes or professional misconduct. Hooker habits are neither.

[swede]

Barney Franks got caught with a young lover who was prostituting himself out and stealing from ole Barn.

Senator David Vitter got caught with his pants down six months ago, didn't hear a lot of talk about him resigning.

Larry Craig rebounded from his wide stance ordeal, is still in Senate.

There is always a flurry of righteous fun when sex scandals break out.

Spitzer looks vulnerable. But I certainly hope he rides this out. I think his behaviour is the sort of thing that voters can decide on at the election booth. Politicians should resign for serious crimes or professional misconduct.

Why the hell would anyone be in Spitzer's corner. He is one of the most reviled dickheads in politics. This is a time for great rejoicing--dems and repubbies alike. Enjoy every moment of this hypocritical egomaniac's personal torment. It is classic Greek tragedy.

Honestly HH, you've brought contrarianism to a strange place in rooting for this turd.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Honestly HH, you've brought contrarianism to a strange place in rooting for this turd.

has nothing to do with him.

hookers are a matter of principle.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Why the hell would anyone be in Spitzer's corner. He is one of the most reviled dickheads in politics. This is a time for great rejoicing--dems and repubbies alike. Enjoy every moment of this hypocritical egomaniac's personal torment. It is classic Greek tragedy.

Using sex scandals for political score-settling is bad for the country, even if the guy deserves it.

For every incident of sexual misbehavior that makes the news, you have to think that 50 to 100 go unreported. Making sexual adventures into impeachable crimes will just make these politicians much more vulnerable to blackmail.

Abstinence is not a realistic standard. Powerful men seem to have powerful sex drives. And the madames say they are the kinky ones.

I hope Spitzer rides this out.

[swede]

Why the hell would anyone be in Spitzer's corner. He is one of the most reviled dickheads in politics. This is a time for great rejoicing--dems and repubbies alike. Enjoy every moment of this hypocritical egomaniac's personal torment. It is classic Greek tragedy.

Using sex scandals for political score-settling is bad for the country, even if the guy deserves it.

For every incident of sexual misbehavior that makes the news, you have to think that 50 to 100 go unreported. Making sexual adventures into impeachable crimes will just make these politicians much more vulnerable to blackmail.

Abstinence is not a realistic standard. Powerful men seem to have powerful sex drives. And the madames say they are the kinky ones.

I hope Spitzer rides this out.

The guy's knowledge of the inside workings of the financial system allowed him to shift money through a web of accounts in order to pursue an illegal activity. He won't get convicted for transporting a hooker across state lines. He'll be convicted for illegal use of the banking system to support a criminal enterprise, thus hoisting him by his own petard.

You go ahead and weep for Spitzy. I'm buying popcorn!

[LL2]

I think it's funny. Spitzer made a name for himself and his career by being the tough AG going after investment companies and whatever else that would get him fame and glory, and now his indiscretions are coming back to bite him in the ass. I think he should resign.

[Harlan Huckleby]

He'll be convicted for illegal use of the banking system to support a criminal enterprise

Oh brother. The guy's real offense is he went to a hooker for kinky sex. THAT is what has people up in arms. "illegal use of the banking system to support a criminal enterprise" oooooh, ahhhhhhh. The fucker was transfering money to his whore house through a dummy name. Big Deal.


You go ahead and weep for Spitzy. I'm buying popcorn!

I don't care about Spitzer one way or another. He is resigning today, and I thank that is a shame. It's a missed opportunity for the country to move forward a little bit.

Swede, Leaper, Harvey: where were you guys when the Republican Senator, David Vitter, got caught with prositutes 6 months ago? I'm having trouble remembering your posts demanding his resignation. The only difference is that the reports about him were less sensational.

People are disgusted that the guy got caught paying for kinky sex. By forcing his resignation, it is a way for people to pump out their chests and declare that this is abhorent, unacceptable behavior. Feel morally superior. Feel satisfaction, schadenfreude, over this pathetic guy.

And who are the people most enthusiastic about damning others? Why people like Spitzer, of course! He lead the prosecutorial charge against prostitution. And Larry Craig took a wide stance against gays while in the Senate.

The public is engaging in mass hypocracy. Pretending that we as a people are above kinky sex with prostitutes. I'm not making an "everybody does it so its OK" argument. Not saying it's OK or not OK, just that sex lives have zilch to do with job performance in office and should be ignored.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I think it's funny. Spitzer made a name for himself and his career by being the tough AG going after investment companies and whatever else that would get him fame and glory, and now his indiscretions are coming back to bite him in the ass. I think he should resign.

Acting foolish is not an impeachable offense. We have elections to remove fools.

[Joemailman]

He'll be convicted for illegal use of the banking system to support a criminal enterprise

Oh brother. The guy's real offense is he went to a hooker for kinky sex. THAT is what has people up in arms. "illegal use of the banking system to support a criminal enterprise" oooooh, ahhhhhhh. The fucker was transfering money to his whore house through a dummy name. Big Deal.


You go ahead and weep for Spitzy. I'm buying popcorn!

I don't care about Spitzer one way or another. He is resigning today, and I thank that is a shame. It's a missed opportunity for the country to move forward a little bit.

Swede, Leaper, Harvey: where were you guys when the Republican Senator, David Vitter, got caught with prositutes 6 months ago? I'm having trouble remembering your posts demanding his resignation. The only difference is that the reports about him were less sensational.

People are disgusted that the guy got caught paying for kinky sex. By forcing his resignation, it is a way for people to pump out their chests and declare that this is abhorent, unacceptable behavior. Feel morally superior. Feel satisfaction, schadenfreude, over this pathetic guy.

And who are the people most enthusiastic about damning others? Why people like Spitzer, of course! He lead the prosecutorial charge against prostitution. And Larry Craig took a wide stance against gays while in the Senate.

The public is engaging in mass hypocracy. Pretending that we as a people are above kinky sex with prostitutes. I'm not making an "everybody does it so its OK" argument. Not saying it's OK or not OK, just that sex lives have zilch to do with job performance in office and should be ignored.

It's sort of been my experience over the last couple of decades that people who make a public display of criticizing the morals of others while espousing their own morality usually have a few skeletons of their own in the closet. Spitzer, Vitter, Haggart (sp?), Swaggart, Craig come to mind.

Spitzer has resigned, but I suspect he'll be back. We tend to be a very forgiving country. If Bill Clinton decided to run for public office in New York, I'll bet he could win. The fact that Spitzer did not drag this out for weeks or even months will be appreciated by many.

[swede]

Harlan! Seriously. Snap out of it. I don't even feel like I'm arguing with the HH I know.



He'll be convicted for illegal use of the banking system to support a criminal enterprise

Oh brother. The guy's real offense is he went to a hooker for kinky sex. THAT is what has people up in arms.

He'll be indicted for the white collar financial crime. I doubt he'll face charges of soliciting. Stop pretending that some overprotective society is punishing him for using a prostitute's services. He's getting whacked, and deservedly so, for flaunting all kinds of laws on his way to the brothel. This guy built his career by wrecking the careers of others on trumped-up technicalities If you can't see the delectable irony of this prosecutor of white collar "criminals" and prostitutes getting caught laundering money as a way to pay hookers then you, sir, have lost your sense of humor.





You go ahead and weep for Spitzy. I'm buying popcorn!

I don't care about Spitzer one way or another. He is resigning today, and I think that is a shame.

Please understand me. I don't feel moral superiority over Spitzer.

I feel the same kind of delightful amusement I would feel if the leader of the local MADD chapter blew a .23 after driving her SUV into the front door of the courthouse.

[Joemailman]

Have you heard of DAMM? Drunks Against Mad Mothers.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Spitzer case tests limits of low behavior in high office
USA Today

Given his record as an uncompromising prosecutor and moral crusader, Eliot Spitzer's days as governor of New York look distinctly numbered after he was exposed as a client of a call-girl service. Certainly, it is hard to see how he could continue to be effective.

But Spitzer's predicament raises a question. Where would the Democrat stand now had he not cut his teeth as attorney general in New York, where, in addition to taking on Wall Street, he went after at least two prostitution rings?

If recent precedent is any indication, he would not be hanging on by a thread, with the state awaiting his resignation. Rather, he would be stage managing his political survival.

These days, there seem to be only two fatal taboos among "victimless" crimes perpetrated by high officials. There are those that involve the abuse of public office or money, as was the case with disgraced former New Jersey governor James McGreevey, who appointed his unqualified male lover to be homeland security adviser. And there are those, like Spitzer's, that involve blatant hypocrisy.

Otherwise, embarrassed officials use dramatic admissions of personal failings as a defense against their serious violations of public trust. They trot out their wives, make an apology and then get back to their jobs. As the late New York senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan famously put it in a different context, deviancy has been defined downward.

Perhaps this is a legacy of the Monica Lewinsky scandal in President Clinton's administration. The public made clear that — while it did not approve of Clinton's relationship with Lewinsky — it had enough of politicians' sex lives dragged out into the open, particularly by their political adversaries.

But, unlike Clinton's affair with Lewinsky, soliciting a prostitute is a crime, no less so for officials who never prosecuted it. They are sworn to uphold the law even if they don't enforce it. They violate their oath and undermine their effectiveness in office with their solicitations, even if they do so on their own dime and with less hypocrisy.

To be sure, Spitzer isn't the only one guilty of hypocrisy here.

Republicans have been quick to clamor for Spitzer's resignation or impeachment, but they've been less vocal about Sen. David Vitter, R-La., who stays in office after being linked to a Washington prostitution ring and apologizing for "a serious sin."

Then there's the hypocrisy of those on Wall Street who cheered their nemesis' comeuppance, as if that made the sleazy financial behavior Spitzer exposed any less shady. Spitzer can be criticized for many things, but not for exposing corruption and conflicts of interest in the financial sector.

Now Spitzer, who parlayed his crimebusting credentials into the governor's mansion, becomes the latest official to test the parameters of public acceptance. Maybe his fate will remind even the most reckless, hubristic politicians of the limits to what they can get away with.

[swede]

Oh I'm sorry. I forgot to check in with the mainstream media.

I didn't realize Spitzer was a heroic "crimebuster."

I'll lay off now. :roll:

[Harlan Huckleby]

He'll be indicted for the white collar financial crime.

Oh brother! And what was this crime? He used a phony company name to hide his real name in wiring money to the brothe. Big F-ing Deal. It only came-up because of suspicion he might be engaged in REAL criminal activity, which he was not.


Stop pretending that some overprotective society is punishing him for using a prostitute's services.

Mary, Mother of God! If you don't see this that this incident turns on the sensationalism of his sexual escapades, you have your head buried in your crotch. (enjoy, my limber friend. :D )



He's getting whacked, and deservedly so, for flaunting all kinds of laws on his way to the brothel. This guy built his career by wrecking the careers of others on trumped-up technicalities .

Now we're getting somewhere. The public is ESPECIALLY fired-up because of the guy's hypocracy. The USA Today editorial got it right.

Running people out of office because of an over-heated bandwagon is not good public policy! Hypocracy should not be an impeachable offense.

Remember the fury of Republicans demanding Larry Craig resign? Then things died down after people got over themselves.


If you can't see the delectable irony of this prosecutor of white collar "criminals" and prostitutes getting caught laundering money as a way to pay hookers then you, sir, have lost your sense of humor.

I get it, I have no problem with people making fun out of the situation, that's not where I'm coming from.

It's a really bad idea to throw people out of office for their embarassing moments, even if minor crimes are involved. (soliciting prostitute, wiring money to whorehouse under false name, disturbing peace with wide stance in bathroom, etc. ) It amounts to mass hypocracy on the part of the public, encourages dirty tricks by the political parties, and leaves politicians more vulnerable to blackmail.

[The Leaper]

Abstinence is not a realistic standard. Powerful men seem to have powerful sex drives. And the madames say they are the kinky ones.

Sorry, Huck...the guy had a wife, and she ain't half bad...especially looking at his ugly ass googly face.

He didn't have to abstain from sex. Keep trying though. You might eventually find something logical to back up your support for the guy...but it isn't likely.

[The Leaper]

Running people out of office because of an over-heated bandwagon is not good public policy! Hypocracy should not be an impeachable offense.

He could be impeached because he possibly committed MULTIPLE FELONY CRIMES. A crime is a crime, Huck...you can't pick and choose which ones you wish to prosecute. If anyone should've known the law, it was Spitzer.

What part of that do you not understand...or do you PREFER to have criminals running our government?

[SkinBasket]

It's a really bad idea to throw people out of office for their embarassing moments, even if minor crimes are involved. (soliciting prostitute, wiring money to whorehouse under false name, disturbing peace with wide stance in bathroom, etc. ) It amounts to mass hypocracy on the part of the public, encourages dirty tricks by the political parties, and leaves politicians more vulnerable to blackmail.


No, it's not a bad idea. If he was willing to commit a litany of "minor" crimes to get himself fucked on a regular basis, what's to stop him from using the same "minor" crimes to further whatever other frauds he wants to commit to further his personal agenda while in office?

Demanding a higher standard of elected officials than we demand of other run-of-the-mill "minor" criminals isn't hypocrisy. It's common sense. And politicians aren't vulnerable to "dirty tricks" or blackmail unless they're doing something they shouldn't anyway.

It's nice you're such a champion of protecting public officials' criminal behavior and misdeeds, though. Very noble cause.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Abstinence is not a realistic standard. Powerful men seem to have powerful sex drives. And the madames say they are the kinky ones.

Sorry, Huck...the guy had a wife, and she ain't half bad...especially looking at his ugly ass googly face.

He didn't have to abstain from sex. Keep trying though. You might eventually find something logical to back up your support for the guy...but it isn't likely.

not talking about abstinence from married sex, abstinence form extramarital sex.

[Harlan Huckleby]

It's a really bad idea to throw people out of office for their embarassing moments, even if minor crimes are involved. (soliciting prostitute, wiring money to whorehouse under false name, disturbing peace with wide stance in bathroom, etc. ) It amounts to mass hypocracy on the part of the public, encourages dirty tricks by the political parties, and leaves politicians more vulnerable to blackmail.


No, it's not a bad idea. If he was willing to commit a litany of "minor" crimes to get himself fucked on a regular basis, what's to stop him from using the same "minor" crimes to further whatever other frauds he wants to commit to further his personal agenda while in office?

Demanding a higher standard of elected officials than we demand of other run-of-the-mill "minor" criminals isn't hypocrisy. It's common sense. And politicians aren't vulnerable to "dirty tricks" or blackmail unless they're doing something they shouldn't anyway.

It's nice you're such a champion of protecting public officials' criminal behavior and misdeeds, though. Very noble cause.


Senator Vitter broke the law when he solicted sex from a prostitute.

Did you call for him to resign? It is not too late for him to resign. Should he resign now?

[SkinBasket]

Senator Vitter broke the law when he solicted sex from a prostitute.

Did you call for him to resign? It is not too late for him to resign. Should he resign now?

Not that it matters, but I happen to think he should.

You're still trying to equate the multitude of crimes that Spitzer committed just to commit solicitation to other cases of solicitation (or attempted solicitation) with the only link being that they were also "minor" crimes.

Just interesting to see how vehemently you want to protect the illegal activities and moral misdeeds of this particular politician.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Senator Vitter broke the law when he solicted sex from a prostitute.

Did you call for him to resign? It is not too late for him to resign. Should he resign now?
Not that it matters, but I happen to think he should.


Haven't heard a lot of calls for Vitter to resign, from you or anyone else.


You're still trying to equate the multitude of crimes that Spitzer committed just to commit solicitation to other cases of solicitation

Spitzer was not drummed out of office because of his "multitude of crimes."
He was run-out because of his history, and the sensational nature of his offense. He had no political support because he was viewed as a hypocrit.

If you believe this is about his multitude of crimes, I can't convince you otherwise, just disagree with how you read the situation.

[Harlan Huckleby]

What part of that do you not understand...or do you PREFER to have criminals running our government?

Soliciting a prostitute is a crime. Why did you not call for Vitter's resignation?

Do you think this scandal would have played-out any differently if Spitzer had paid cash for his prostitutes rather than wiring the money in a sneaky way? Of course not. He was brought down by political pressure, and the public doesn't care about some technicality. And either do you.

[SkinBasket]

The IRS and FBI typically don't get involved in solicitation cases because they are "sensational" or because the criminal is a politician with a history of busting prostitution rings.

You're ignoring the fact that the crimes other than solicitation, along with the staggering amount of money it's alleged that he spent on solicitation - which shows this criminal behavior was a regular part of his life, not a one time mistake or lapse of judgement, that sets this case apart from all the others you've mentioned.

[Harlan Huckleby]

The IRS and FBI typically don't get involved in solicitation cases because they are "sensational" or because the criminal is a politician with a history of busting prostitution rings.

You're ignoring the fact that the crimes other than solicitation, along with the staggering amount of money it's alleged that he spent on solicitation - which shows this criminal behavior was a regular part of his life, not a one time mistake or lapse of judgement, that sets this case apart from all the others you've mentioned.

the FBI initially got involved because of suspicious bank transfers by Spitzer, they thought he might be involved in some sort of political corruption.

I just listened to a panel discussion on the legalities on public radio. There is no chance that Spitzer is going to be charged with crimes other than, possibly, solicitation. His financial indescretions were technicalities in how he did the money transfers. "Structuring" is where you break-up large payments into smaller ones to avoid detection.
According to the legal experts, prosecutors only prosecute when these violations are in connection with serious crimes, typically money laundering. Pressing these charges in connection with payment for consensual sex is unheard of.

So, your "multitude of crimes" concern is off the table, Leaper can withdraw his "many felonies" outrage too. Now we can get down to talking about what this case is really about: public revulsion at Spitzer's sexual conduct and personal hypocracy.

[Joemailman]

At least Spitzer had better taste than Bill.

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/14714/original.jpg

[Harlan Huckleby]

wow, she is sweet. not sure about $1500/hr sweet.

one caveat, they better be real or I'm demanding my money back.

[Freak Out]

This would be considered a sex crime in my book. Woooo Nelly!

http://pax-europa.com/temp/weird.jpg

[Harlan Huckleby]

http://images.salon.com/tech/machinist/blog/2008/03/12/spitzer_myspace/story2.jpg

Here's another pic of Ashley Alexandra Dupre. Doesn't look like the same woman. Guess those big sunglasses hide a lot of skank.

[Harlan Huckleby]

it's getting worse

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3166/2330020496_1b0b92db1a.jpg


Forget it, I'll take Monica.

[MadtownPacker]

Damn, this guy got burned for his money.

[swede]

She's got a bad case of man hands.

[SkinBasket]

I just listened to a panel discussion on the legalities on public radio...

Then it must be true.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I just listened to a panel discussion on the legalities on public radio...

Then it must be true.

Don't be so sure, I heard some reports to the contrary this morning. :D

My opinion is with the people I heard yesterday, it would be prosecutorial excess to go after Spitzer. Applying the Mann Act because the whore took a train from NJ to meet him is insane. His money transfers were just hooker money, no serious criminal activity.

[Scott Campbell]

So to recap, Harlan sides with lying, cheating, deception, infidelity and adultery. And he's also morally superior to the rest of you fools.

What a shocking development. :shock:


It looks like the people of New York beg to differ.

[Harlan Huckleby]

So to recap, Harlan sides with lying, cheating, deception, infidelity and adultery. And he's also morally superior to the rest of you fools.

You are only pretending to be stupid, you don't fool me.

[oregonpackfan]

http://images.salon.com/tech/machinist/blog/2008/03/12/spitzer_myspace/story2.jpg

Here's another pic of Ashley Alexandra Dupre. Doesn't look like the same woman. Guess those big sunglasses hide a lot of skank.

Look at the size of the ring on her finger! That must have cost a pretty penny.

[The Leaper]

My opinion is with the people I heard yesterday, it would be prosecutorial excess to go after Spitzer.

It may be excess, but it is well within their right to do so. The guy broke laws, and like any other citizen should be held accountable...and probably more so due to his prosition of influence and authority.

However, his resignation from public office probably can be considered punishment enough...no need to waste taxpayer money prosecuting him.

I do think you should update your forum name to a different cartoon character though. Chief Wiggums from the Simpsons seems more in line with your general viewpoint.

[Harlan Huckleby]

My opinion is with the people I heard yesterday, it would be prosecutorial excess to go after Spitzer.

It may be excess, but it is well within their right to do so. The guy broke laws, and like any other citizen should be held accountable...and probably more so due to his prosition of influence and authority.

Prosecutors shouldn't always enforce the letter of the law, that would reek havoc. Spitzer broke laws that were intended to combat crime syndicates. He is just a lonely man with too much fun money.


However, his resignation from public office probably can be considered punishment enough...no need to waste taxpayer money prosecuting him.

No, they aren't going to pursue the charges because they are ridiculously out of scale for his actions.

People who view Spitzer's downfall as a cut-and-dry issue haven't thought enough about why Senator Vitter was given a pass on his prostitution habit.
Spitzer was brought down because the political pressure was greater, justice by mob rule. Why was the mob so much more frenzied this time? Well, because Spitzer is an ass. Even so, he probably could have ridden this out for the remainder of his term if he had chosen to hang in there.

[MJZiggy]

They were talking impeachment. I'm thinking the vitriol has to do with the amazing hypocrisy of the situation. Had he not been parading himself as a pillar of virtue, the banging of the whore wouldn't have been taken as such an insult by the constituency.

[Harlan Huckleby]

They were talking impeachment. I'm thinking the vitriol has to do with the amazing hypocrisy of the situation. Had he not been parading himself as a pillar of virtue, the banging of the whore wouldn't have been taken as such an insult by the constituency.

ya, I agree.

I don't think politicians should be driven from office in the emotional days following a scandal. I place a really high bar for impeaching politicians. Serious criminal activity, or corruption using their office.

[MJZiggy]

Re: impeaching Bush, I just figure by the time they get it done, he'll be a lame duck anyway, so why bother. There are bumper stickers all over town announcing his last day in office.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I just deleted my Bush impeachment remarks because it is too boring to talk about. but I will be boring, nothing new there.

Uh, ya, the lame duck point is a practical consideration.

But my original point was that the case is ambiguous, so don't go down that path.

[SkinBasket]

Re: impeaching Bush, I just figure by the time they get it done, he'll be a lame duck anyway, so why bother. There are bumper stickers all over town announcing his last day in office.

Bumper stickers are the best litmus test of educated America after all.

[Harlan Huckleby]

MY OTHER CAR IS A PIECE OF SHIT TOO