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Guiness
05-27-2006, 09:07 AM
Cut & Paste from Sportsline.com
http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/9463523
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MILWAUKEE -- Former Green Bay Packers star Jerry Kramer understands why some people would find it hard to believe there are needy retired NFL players.

With today's multimillion dollar salaries, many current players will never need help financially.

But Kramer, who played for Vince Lombardi's Packers from 1958 to 1968, said that's not the case for a number of those who played in his era.

Kramer, 70, who lives in Boise, Idaho, said he earned $8,000 in his first year in the league and got a $300 raise in the second year before his salary jumped to $9,000 annually when he was All-Pro in his third year. He eventually earned $27,000 to $28,000 a year before retiring.

Many players from his era began drawing pensions at age 45, he said, only to see them drop dramatically when they turned 62 and could start drawing Social Security. And a number are without private medical insurance, he said.

With that in mind, he put up for auction this week a replica of his ring from the first Super Bowl to raise money to help older former players. He had the ring made after the original disappeared 25 years ago -- only to resurface recently on an Internet auction.

"I have always felt great concern and frustration regarding the condition of some of the retired players who helped build the league," Kramer said when he announced he was putting the ring up for auction.

The top bid for the replica ring reached $19,000 by Friday afternoon, with hours to go before the auction on his Web site, http://jerrykramer.com, ended.

"I won't see a dime of that," he said.

NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said last week that those who played prior to 1959 were not originally in the NFL pension plan, although they were added years ago. The league spends $5 million a month on retirement and disability benefits for more than 2,500 players, he said.

Kramer said his pension dropped from $454 a month to $158 when he turned 62. He said the NFL also adds $200 per month for the single year he played prior to 1959.

Kramer's original Super Bowl ring disappeared in 1981 when he removed it to wash his hands on an airline flight.

The ring showed up last month in an auction on the Web site of Mastro Auctions Inc. of Burr Ridge, Ill. Kramer contacted Mastro after a former teammate's son told him about it. Mastro president Doug Allen then pulled the ring from auction.

Allen said he bought the ring from the person who had put it up for auction through his business, and turned it over to Kramer at no cost to the former player.

Kramer worked with Allen on the auctioning of the replica and said he intends to work with him to put together a much larger auction of NFL memorabilia later this year or early next year to raise more money for retired players.

Larger auctions like that could become an annual event, he said.

Kramer said a charitable trust will be created to hand out the money raised to needy players.
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Sound like Kramer's doing ok, but it's nice that he realizes some of the old guys are not. Kudos to Allen as well for laying out $$$ to fix something that was not his fault.

It behoves some of the current players to kick 6 figures into the pot for the guys that laid the foundation for them.

Patler
05-27-2006, 10:12 AM
I heard Kramer talking about a huge fundraiser/auction they are doing this Fall. They hope to raise $1,000,000+; all for the retired vets. He said he knows of HOF players living on Social Security and $148/mo from the NFL. He started listing names of players he has contacted who agreed to help out in any way, with contributions or whatever. Absolutely great names from the 1960s, from all different teams. Kramer said no one he called has turned him down.

One thought came to my mind. Where are the current players? All the players that now make $1-10 million/year. Someone should organize them to take care of the guys who built the league for them.

Mike Webster and his problems brought some of the shabby treatment of the older players to the forefront, and he does not go back as far as those Kramer is referring to. With all the money in the league now, you would think a decent program could be set in place for the old guys. Heck, there can't be that many of them truly in need. The league was smaller, and many had successful careers afterward. The league should take care of the rest.

MJZiggy
05-27-2006, 10:25 AM
Of course it should. These guys played before all the protective gear and rule changes that protected the players. They played hard and got the wear and tear that resulted. Every new kid signing a $10 million dollar contract should be required to kick in to a fund for the older guys comensurate to their contract.

Guiness
05-27-2006, 11:20 AM
This was/is also a problem with the NHL. Pretty much a parrallel, actually. The one big difference is that the NHL commisioner, Alan Eagleson actually embezzelled from the retirement fund, and near bankrupted it.

Happily, he's in jail now, and the trial brought the problem a lot of publicity.

Harlan Huckleby
05-27-2006, 11:44 AM
The amount of money needed to address this problem is staggering, but the NFL could afford it. A million dollars will provide temporary relief to 50 people, fine. But the NFL needs to donate $100M (or more?) to create an endowment to provide significant pensions to all the old dudes.

I suppose players sometime around the 1980's started getting paid very well, so problem isn't permanent.

motife
05-27-2006, 12:01 PM
Here's another article on NFL pensions. At least O.J. Simpson is getting his. $300,000 per year.

Too many of the NFL’s retired players are struggling to make ends meet, and especially to pay the medical bills necessary to keep their worn bodies in something that resembles working condition.

‘Shameful⠢‚¬â„¢ treatment

Between the players’ self-absorbed attitude, and the NFL’s indifferencetoward its retired players, the journey from the Glory Years to the Golden Years can be extremely painful.

“Itââ €šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s shameful,” Packers legend Jerry Kramer said. “The players’ association and the league need to do more.”

Former Packers great Willie Davis agreed.

Not because Kramer or Davis need the money. Both are successful beyond their wildest dreams. But because they hurt to see so many contemporaries hurt.

“Itââ €šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s very unfortunate that today’s young players, as we refer to them, almost seem to have no sensitivity, no idea, no respect, in many instances, for the guys that played before them,” Davis said. “They played under conditions that were very different from today’s, and for amounts of money that were nowhere close to what guys make today.”

Willie Wood, the Packers’ Pro Football Hall of Fame safety, is unable to walk without the aid of crutches or a walker. He doesn’t complain, except to say, “My arthritis is eating me alive.” He wouldn’t change a thing, and he is grateful to be in a position to afford decent health care.

He also knows that men he played with and against aren’t so fortunate.

“Thereâà ¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s no doubt the league and the players’ association need to do more,” Wood said.

Davis noted that pensions for major-league baseball players and NBA players aren’t in the same ballpark as NFL pensions.

“I can understand some disparity,” he said. “But nothing in the world can tell me that pro football couldn’t reach back and take care of the older guys who, frankly, never made much money in the first place.”

Help’s on the way

It is why Kramer, Davis and others are beginning a drive to raise money to bolster the NFL pension. Kramer auctioned his Super Bowl I replica ring on Friday, and the proceeds are going toward the NFL’s pension fund.

Kramer and Co. also are joining with Mastro Auctions of Chicago to hold what he calls “a monster auction” that should raise several million dollars.

“Itââ €šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s something that needed to be done,” Kramer said.

It is heart-warming to see NFL players taking care of one another, but it is sad that so many current players aren’t rising to the challenge.

MadtownPacker
05-27-2006, 12:03 PM
Forget the numbers, the NFL has more then enough $$$ if they can have useless pop singers for opening weekend each year.

These guys made the NFL what it is today and they should be taken care of. The high payed players and exec owe it all to them.

Harlan Huckleby
05-27-2006, 12:05 PM
It is heart-warming to see NFL players taking care of one another, but it is sad that so many current players aren’t rising to the challenge.

Come on, there are thousands of charities, this is just one more cause.

The solution is for the NFL and Players Association to agree to create a giant pool of money on a formal, non-voluntary basis.

Patler
05-27-2006, 01:45 PM
The amount of money needed to address this problem is staggering, but the NFL could afford it. A million dollars will provide temporary relief to 50 people, fine. But the NFL needs to donate $100M (or more?) to create an endowment to provide significant pensions to all the old dudes..

No. its not staggering at all for a business the size of the NFL.
Need $100 million? No problem. Leave the salary cap the same in 2007 as in 2006, assess each team $3 million for the old timers pension fund. Presto, you got your money. In 2008 you go back to the regular cap calculations.

Or, assess each player one-half of one percent of their pay. That would get you $16,000.000+ this year alone.

Or charge 1% to every player making more than $1 million/year.

I read that NFL team gross incomes from all sources range between about $175-$200 million per year. Thats around $6 billion for the league. There is planty of money available.

Guiness
05-27-2006, 03:15 PM
Right on the money, so to speak Shamrock. And if the NFL floated the idea of leaving the salary cap unchanged for one year, and had matching contributions from each team, I can't imagine the NFLPA vetoing it - too much bad PR.

Harlan Huckleby
05-27-2006, 05:44 PM
I think freezing salary cap, combined with matching concessions by the NFL, would be a great idea to create an endowment.

KYPack
05-30-2006, 08:26 AM
Yea, Jerry is a good guy.

This also gets him back in the limelight that he craves so much.

At least he's making the effort.

The latest NFL TV packages generate 10 billion dollars. That's 10 THOUSAND million. The NFL couldn't toss a couple mill at this problem and basically solve it? Sure they could. They won't do it because it's right. They will fix it if it becomes a problem.

JK has done a good first step. Making people aware of the problem. If sad cases of 50's and 60's stars down on their luck becomes publically known, THEN the NFL will act.

The NFL will then use these situations as PR opportunities and will turn an embarrassing story into a positive. For instance, they could designate one Pre-season game as a legends game. Bring back some old guys to feature and designate a good share of the game revenue to a special fund for the non-pension guys.

The NFL only responds to PR blackmail, so somebody should give it to 'em.