What's it take to be governor in NY or NJ?

[Kiwon]

1. Money
2. Political connections
3. And apparently, a very active libido.

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THE MCGREEVEYS' SECRET

March 16, 2008 -- A former driver and aide for former N.J. Gov. Jim McGreevey says Dina Matos McGreevey must have always known her husband was gay - because he was the other man in bed with them.

In an explosive interview with The Post, the McGreeveys' longtime man-in-the-middle, Teddy Pedersen, recounted explicit details of alleged, titillating, three-way sex romps he had with the now-divorcing duo, starting during their courtship and continuing into the marriage.

Pedersen - who said he has already spilled the beans on the steamy ménage a trios arrangement under oath in a deposition for the couple's divorce battle - hinted that he thinks his presence was required to get Jim's motor running for Dina.

Matos McGreevey's basic claim in her divorce war with the former Garden State gov is her argument that he covered up his homosexuality and tricked her into a loveless marriage.

Pedersen - who is named in Matos McGreevey's court papers - agreed to talk about the reputed unconventional relationship after Dina repeatedly sounded off to the media last week about Eliot Spitzer's sex scandal and blasted the fallen pol as a hypocrite.

"It's frustrating to hear her call Gov. Spitzer a hypocrite while she's out there being as dishonest as anyone could be about her own life," said Pedersen, 29.

"She's framed herself as a victim - yet she was a willing participant, she had complete control over what happened in her relationship," he said.

"She was there, she knew what was happening, she made the moves. We all did. It's disgusting to watch her play the victim card."

The trio's trysts started after Pedersen was hired as a campaign driver when McGreevey was mayor of Woodbridge, NJ, the former chauffeur said.

"We called it the Friday Night Special," Pedersen said. The "intense" end-of-the-work-week escapades, he said, usually began with a "couple of drinks" at a local T.G.I. Fridays and culminated in "a hard-core consensual sex orgy" among the three of them at McGreevey's Woodbridge condo.

He said the action also spilled over to out-of-town business trips, where Pedersen, a handsome, clean-cut Rutgers grad, would share a single hotel suite with Jim and Dina - right under the noses of other McGreevey staffers.

The threesomes began in the late 1990s, while Dina and Jim were dating, and continued after their October 2000 marriage but had ended by the time McGreevey was elected governor in November 2001, Pedersen said.

"He liked watching me, and she would watch me while she was [performing sex acts] with Jim," noted Pedersen. "In my opinion, me being a part of their sexual relationship enhanced it for both of them."

Pedersen, who lives with his girlfriend of several years, said he revealed the sexual shenanigans during the couple's divorce proceedings only because Dina's camp subpoenaed him.

The former driver said he believes that Dina subpoenaed him as an end-run around her estranged hubby, to see what he would say if he was called on by McGreevey's side. Pedersen said he believes that Dina never expected him to talk about their trysts.

"I would have kept my mouth shut about this forever, but she subpoenaed me, and now it's all going to come out at trial,'' Pedersen said.

He said he expects to be called as one of the first witnesses at the trial.

Details of the lust triangle have been quashed once before, according to a source at now-disbanded Regan Books, which published McGreevey's 2006 memoir, "The Confession."

"There was a coy and gentle reference to a third person, but McGreevey took it out because he thought it was unnecessarily harmful," the insider said.

Pedersen said the threesome started as an "idea" he and McGreevey tossed around during the aide's long hours behind the wheel for the Woodbridge pol.

"We developed a good relationship - we were colleagues, but we were friends," Pedersen said, adding that, once Dina and Jim's romance bloomed, she was often in the car with them headed to various political events.

"There was a level of comfort that evolved into, eventually, hints of pushing it into this sexual realm," Pedersen said.

"Jim and I thought we could see if she would go for it - beyond just the hints in conversation," Pedersen said.

"So one night we came in, I went down to the basement bathroom, and when I came up, to my shock, she was basically undressed and on the loveseat with Jim. So I sat on the couch and watched and eventually joined in.

"And that's how it got going," he said. "We came up with this nice little formula for making it work."

Sometimes, the trio took their show on the road. On business trips - including to the Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino in Atlantic City - they shared one room, leaving others in the entourage baffled.

"It became almost laughable - I would never have my own hotel room," Pedersen recounted. "Everyone thought that this was weird, but we'd just brush it off."

Pedersen's presence wasn't always welcomed by Matos McGreevey.

In her 2007 memoir, "Silent Partner," she recounted her fury when he showed up, bags packed, to drive Jim and Dina to Montreal for the Valentine's Day weekend in 2000 during which McGreevey proposed to her.

Matos McGreevey - who described Pederson as "a handsome college student . . . one of a crowd of guys in their 20s who always seemed to be around" - said she wasn't happy when McGreevey told her the young buck was taking them to Canada.

"Was he kidding?" Dina wrote of McGreevey's desire to bring Pedersen along. "I'd really been looking forward to this weekend together. The two of us, not the three of us.

"I dug my heels in," she continued, recounting that she told McGreevey, "If Teddy is going, I'm not."

Said Pedersen, who wound up not making the trip: "I think she knew he was gonna propose, and she knew if I went, there was going to be a threesome. She had the decency to say, 'Let's make this sort of special' and just the two of them."

But the strange relationship continued even after the McGreeveys wed in October 2000. The Friday Night Special, Pedersen said, was replaced by a more subdued Saturday morning routine.

"I'd go to the condo, and usually they'd still be in bed," Pedersen said. "I'd sometimes go up, sit on the edge of the bed, rub Dina's legs through the comforter and go from there. Saturdays were a lot more low-key.

"Things hit their peak before the marriage. Afterward, there was this sort of soft landing, and it eventually tapered off and ended," he said.

Asked why it stopped, Pedersen said, "In my mind, I figured, 'Dina's married, she doesn't have to play into it any more.

"She sealed the deal, she got what she wanted, the nice life, the governor's mansion, and she would do everything in her power to keep it."

Neither Dina nor Jim McGreevey returned calls for comment.

Lawyers for both said, "No comment.''

In her written memoirs, Dina insists she never knew McGreevey was gay.

"Not only would I not knowingly have married a gay man, but I would never have allowed a gay man to father my child," she said. The pair have a 6-year-old daughter, Jacqueline.

Jim McGreevey resigned as governor in 2004 after admitting he was gay and had hired a boyfriend as his homeland security adviser. Last year, he filed for divorce from Matos McGreevey.

She countered with a civil suit claiming fraud and asking for $600,000 in punitive damages - a figure she claims reflects the perks she was cheated of when Jim's early resignation forced them from the governor's mansion.

The McGreeveys are due back in divorce court Thursday.


http://www.nypost.com/seven/03162008/news/regionalnews/the_mcgreeveys_secret_102260.htm?page=0

[digitaldean]

Sounds like you've got to be pretty damn twisted, too. :o

[Kiwon]

Apparently infidelity is a job requirement
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Report: New NY governor admits affair


By VALERIE BAUMAN, Associated Press Writer

ALBANY, N.Y. - Just hours after he received a standing ovation from lawmakers chanting his name, New York's newly sworn governor was answering questions about straying from his own marriage.

David Paterson became the state's first black chief executive and the nation's second legally blind governor almost exactly a week after allegations first surfaced that now-former Gov. Eliot Spitzer was "Client 9" of a high-priced call girl service.

Paterson told the Daily News of New York City that he maintained a relationship with another woman from 1999 until 2001 during a rough patch in his marriage. He and his wife eventually sought counseling and repaired their relationship.

The couple agreed to speak publicly about their marriage in response to rumors about Paterson's personal life that have been swirling in Albany since Spitzer resigned, the Daily News reported Monday on its Web site.

Paterson and his wife, Michelle, acknowledged to the newspaper that they each had affairs but did not go into details.

[SkinBasket]

These are the men leading our nation. Awesome. They're supposed to be managing our most populous states, but they can't even get a handle on their own cock. Very inspiring stuff.

[hoosier]

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[SkinBasket]

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g188/skinbasket/man.jpg

[Harlan Huckleby]

These are the men leading our nation. Awesome. They're supposed to be managing our most populous states, but they can't even get a handle on their own cock. Very inspiring stuff.

Perhaps we should have Access Hollywood or E! vet the love life of all candidates for higher office, give them a score for sexual fidelity and performance.

I understand why people want to judge people by their sexual fidelity. I think its naive and foolish to attempt to apply these standards to politicians.

[The Leaper]

Perhaps we should have Access Hollywood or E! vet the love life of all candidates for higher office, give them a score for sexual fidelity and performance.

Nah.

Just eliminate the current crapbag of a political process and let's choose our president like we do on Survivor. Stick all the candidates on a deserted island and give them access to numerous vices and have to battle each other in mental challenges. Let them all fend for themselves...and we can vote off a different one every week until we have a winner.

[SkinBasket]

I think its naive and foolish to attempt to apply these standards to politicians.

And why is it naive to think someone we trust in public office should be able to hold a promise to their spouse (or life partner as the case may be) as much as they are trusted with keeping promises to their electorate?

I know it's easier for you to make all these stories about sex instead of the underlying issues of trust, honesty, and integrity - not to mention common fucking sense - of elected officials, but they are politicians, not pornstars that need excuses for their poor decisions and substandard character.

[GoPackGo]

Fuck the system

[hoosier]

I think its naive and foolish to attempt to apply these standards to politicians.

And why is it naive to think someone we trust in public office should be able to hold a promise to their spouse (or life partner as the case may be) as much as they are trusted with keeping promises to their electorate?

I know it's easier for you to make all these stories about sex instead of the underlying issues of trust, honesty, and integrity - not to mention common fucking sense - of elected officials, but they are politicians, not pornstars that need excuses for their poor decisions and substandard character.

The key point you seem to be missing is that the difference between politician and porn star ain't what it used to be. We fight like hell to ignore the roles that Hollywood and mass media play in what matters most to us. But at least since Reagan, if not JFK or even before, our politicians have at a very fundamental level been actors. And bad ones at that. All of this moral indignation against Spitzer is really just anger at him for having shown us a truth we didn't want to see.

[GoPackGo]

I think its naive and foolish to attempt to apply these standards to politicians.

And why is it naive to think someone we trust in public office should be able to hold a promise to their spouse (or life partner as the case may be) as much as they are trusted with keeping promises to their electorate?

I know it's easier for you to make all these stories about sex instead of the underlying issues of trust, honesty, and integrity - not to mention common fucking sense - of elected officials, but they are politicians, not pornstars that need excuses for their poor decisions and substandard character.

The key point you seem to be missing is that the difference between politician and porn star ain't what it used to be. We fight like hell to ignore the roles that Hollywood and mass media play in what matters most to us. But at least since Reagan, if not JFK or even before, our politicians have at a very fundamental level been actors. And bad ones at that. All of this moral indignation against Spitzer is really just anger at him for having shown us a truth we didn't want to see.

I want to see the truth, and then I want politicians to get kicked in their asses repeatedly

[Harlan Huckleby]

I think its naive and foolish to attempt to apply these standards to politicians.

And why is it naive to think someone we trust in public office should be able to hold a promise to their spouse (or life partner as the case may be) as much as they are trusted with keeping promises to their electorate?

I know it's easier for you to make all these stories about sex instead of the underlying issues of trust, honesty, and integrity - not to mention common fucking sense - of elected officials, but they are politicians, not pornstars that need excuses for their poor decisions and substandard character.

There is nothing wrong with what you say in principle, just a lot of bad practical consequences:

1) The most successful presidents in the last century had affairs, the least successful were faithful to their wives. Really, end of argument. We can't afford to toss-out people for reasons that emperically have proven to be irrelevant at best.
2) Putting the focus on personal lives encourages mass hypocracy. Well, that's pretty much what we have now. Gay politicians in unhappy heterosexual marriages. Trotting-out wives to bless indescretions. On and on.
3) We have too much mudslinging in politics. Making love lives campaign issues just encourages dirty tricks and blackmailing. We want to move AWAY from this destructive time-wasting, not towards it.

[MadtownPacker]

So since this new NY gov and his wife both had friends with benefits, does that me he supports equal rights?

Did you see that other story where some gay gov was pulling tag teams with a friend and his wife?

[Harlan Huckleby]

Did you see that other story where some gay gov was pulling tag teams with a friend and his wife?

not bad for a republican! I'm liking republicans more and more.


Skinbasket, it's good to read your true feelings about sex and the politician. Reading about Spitzer's "multitude of crimes" in the previous argument was quite annoying. I'm not surprised that you are a puritan. You talk like a pervert, it's the people who talk like puritans who are the perverts.

[GoPackGo]

I think its naive and foolish to attempt to apply these standards to politicians.

And why is it naive to think someone we trust in public office should be able to hold a promise to their spouse (or life partner as the case may be) as much as they are trusted with keeping promises to their electorate?

I know it's easier for you to make all these stories about sex instead of the underlying issues of trust, honesty, and integrity - not to mention common fucking sense - of elected officials, but they are politicians, not pornstars that need excuses for their poor decisions and substandard character.

There is nothing wrong with what you say in principle, just a lot of bad practical consequences:

1) The most successful presidents in the last century had affairs, the least successful were faithful to their wives. Really, end of argument. We can't afford to toss-out people for reasons that emperically have proven to be irrelevant at best.
2) Putting the focus on personal lives encourages mass hypocracy. Well, that's pretty much what we have now. Gay politicians in unhappy heterosexual marriages. Trotting-out wives to bless indescretions. On and on.
3) We have too much mudslinging in politics. Making love lives campaign issues just encourages dirty tricks and blackmailing. We want to move AWAY from this destructive time-wasting, not towards it.

I think the point of this whole thing is that if you are not smart enough to keep your meetings with prostitutes a secret, and also not smart enough to know that allowing tag teams with your wife could be fun but would eventually end badly, than you probably shouldn't be representing the population of a state who wouldn't have voted for you if they really knew you.
These politicians are idiots and the citizens of New York and New Jersey should be outraged.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I don't know, GoPackGo, it took the FBI and wiretaps to catch #9.

Bubba's blow jobs were pretty outrageously reckless.

People are very different in thier love lives than in their business lives. Spitzer was INCREDIBLY competent and precise as a legal eagle.

You are really calling for improved secrecy and hypocracy. I say just stay away from the sex lives of politicians. Of course we'll just have to agree to disagree.

[GoPackGo]

You are really calling for improved secrecy and hypocracy. I say just stay away from the sex lives of politicians. Of course we'll just have to agree to disagree.

These guys are playing with fire but they aren't smart enough to not let it burn their own house down. I guess I like to think I have higher standards I expect from politicians. That probably explains why I'm always unhappy with my choices of who to vote for

[SkinBasket]

The key point you seem to be missing is that the difference between politician and porn star ain't what it used to be. We fight like hell to ignore the roles that Hollywood and mass media play in what matters most to us. But at least since Reagan, if not JFK or even before, our politicians have at a very fundamental level been actors. And bad ones at that. All of this moral indignation against Spitzer is really just anger at him for having shown us a truth we didn't want to see.

I'm not missing any key points. I expect an elected official to perform their job the same way I would any other employee in any other job. I feel no moral indignation toward Spitzer or any other politician who can't maintain a minimum level of human decency while in office. I simply feel they are failing in their job duties and making excuses for them isn't in my interest.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I simply feel they are failing in their job duties and making excuses for them isn't in my interest.

sex lives are part of job duties? :?:

[SkinBasket]

1) The most successful presidents in the last century had affairs, the least successful were faithful to their wives. Really, end of argument. We can't afford to toss-out people for reasons that emperically have proven to be irrelevant at best.

Very scientific. I'm sure the two are directly related. Just like pirates and global warming.


2) Putting the focus on personal lives encourages mass hypocracy. Well, that's pretty much what we have now. Gay politicians in unhappy heterosexual marriages. Trotting-out wives to bless indescretions. On and on.

Who called for a focus on personal lives? Simply maintaining the standards the average man lives by while being paid by that average man to represent him is enough. I'm also pretty sure that you don't really understand what the word hypocrisy means. Unless "hypocracy" has a different meaning than hypocrisy. As it is, you tend to use it like your getaway vehicle.


3) We have too much mudslinging in politics. Making love lives campaign issues just encourages dirty tricks and blackmailing. We want to move AWAY from this destructive time-wasting, not towards it.

Yeah, we're much better off if we ignore gaping holes in a candidate's character and integrity. The very same character and integrity they are campaigning on. Maybe we shouldn't ask any questions at all, just accept applications, put them in a hat, and pick one. After all, if we get a good politician that way, then it would have been empirically proven as absolute fact as the best election method.


Skinbasket, it's good to read your true feelings about sex and the politician. Reading about Spitzer's "multitude of crimes" in the previous argument was quite annoying. I'm not surprised that you are a puritan. You talk like a pervert, it's the people who talk like puritans who are the perverts.

This is a separate issue from the crimes Spitzer committed. You're the only one that keeps trying to make them one and the same so they're easier for you to dismiss. What they do share is that his crimes and his indiscretions both show he is not capable of making sound decisions, maintaining integrity, or honoring promises.

I know you like to lump people into groups and stereotype them, but even perverts believe in integrity, honesty, and self control. Otherwise the perversions have no meaning. Without truth there can be no lies.

[SkinBasket]

I simply feel they are failing in their job duties and making excuses for them isn't in my interest.

sex lives are part of job duties? :?:

*Yawn*


Stop acting stupid, you.... hold on, where's that thread....

Shit Whistle.

[Harlan Huckleby]

1) The most successful presidents in the last century had affairs, the least successful were faithful to their wives. Really, end of argument. We can't afford to toss-out people for reasons that emperically have proven to be irrelevant at best.

Very scientific. I'm sure the two are directly related. Just like pirates and global warming.

"irrelevant" does not mean "directly related." I use www.dictionary.com when I get confused, you might try it.


Who called for a focus on personal lives? Simply maintaining the standards the average man lives by while being paid by

maintaining standards in their personal lives.


even perverts believe in integrity, honesty, and self control. Otherwise the perversions have no meaning.

OK, I withdraw my previous speculation as to your sexual proclivities.

Pervert!

[Harlan Huckleby]

I'm mad as hell and not gonna take it anymore.

What a spectacle we saw yesterday! A new governor feels compelled to hold a press conference to announce that he diddled someone outside of his marriage in 1999 and 2004. And is that his wife standing there with the long face?

And some of you think this is cool, or cause for smug tut-tutting. This is back to the 1950's is what it is. Do you think a new era of sexual witchhunts and scandals is helpful to our politics and government?

And why did he step forward? Quite possibly he was being blackmailed and wanted to clear the air. Or some political enemy was stirring up trouble, so he decided to beat them to the punch.

You damn fools and your sexual moralizing. Why do we have to keep learning the same lessons?

[Scott Campbell]

Just because Harlan has no standards, it doesn't mean that everyone else has to slink to that level.

Call me crazy, but I don't trust a governor that would cheat, lie and steal from his spouse - with a hooker. There are character issues that make people unfit for public office. Harlan is single, and perhaps doesn't understand commitment , and family responsibilities.

Ironically, Harlan got all preachy with his holy crusade for forum decency. While good enough for strangers on a message board, it appears to be too high a standard for ones spouse.

[Scott Campbell]

And why did he step forward? Quite possibly he was being blackmailed and wanted to clear the air.



Do you really think its a great idea for a governor to leave himself open to blackmail in the first place? How is that in the best interests of his constituency? Might he be tempted to pay them off with state money, or award the thug a contract?

[The Leaper]

What a spectacle we saw yesterday! A new governor feels compelled to hold a press conference to announce that he diddled someone outside of his marriage in 1999 and 2004. And is that his wife standing there with the long face?

The only reason he did this was due to the circumstances of why he took the office in the first place.

If you can't rationalize why Spitzer's actions were dangerous and careless in regard to his constituents, it's your own problem. I don't view the new guy's transgressions in the same light...and the vast majority of others share my viewpoint.

[Scott Campbell]

Why do we have to keep learning the same lessons?


Who's we?

[Harlan Huckleby]

Just because Harlan has no standards, it doesn't mean that everyone else has to slink to that level.

Call me crazy, but I don't trust a governor that would cheat, lie and steal from his spouse - with a hooker.

You're absolutely correct, it would be a terrible thing if our leaders sunk to my standards - all manner of wild sex, treating taxpayers like personal ATM machines, reigniting racial hatred.

But that's irrelevant, we're really focused on whether it's a good thing to put personal sexual behavior into the public debate. I understand your point of view, it make sense in principle. Trouble is that experience shows maritil fidelity doesn't correlate with effective leadership, and a permanent witchhunt causes terrible harm, as I explained before.

[Harlan Huckleby]

If you can't rationalize why Spitzer's actions were dangerous and careless in regard to his constituents, it's your own problem. I don't view the new guy's transgressions in the same light...and the vast majority of others share my viewpoint.

Are you saying that going to a prositute is an impeachable offense, having an affair can be excused with wink and nudge?

Scott Campbell disagrees with you on this point, so I guess he is not in that vast majority you mentioned.

I know you said before that going to a prositute was not cause for automatic ejection, that if they appear contrite they can stay. I find this ridiculous. Do you really think we can look into the heart of the man blubbering at the news conference? :lol: Do you excuse David Vitter's prostituion habit because you believed his contrition speech? Silly. You aren't being honest with yourself, you would never abide a politician who used prostitutes.

[The Leaper]

and a permanent witchhunt causes terrible harm, as I explained before.

What part of Spitzer's ouster was due to a permanent witchhunt?

[Harlan Huckleby]

And why did he step forward? Quite possibly he was being blackmailed and wanted to clear the air.

Do you really think its a great idea for a governor to leave himself open to blackmail in the first place?

You aren't going to end affairs or prostitution by rousing public indignation. All you do is make blackmailing easier and more lucrative.

The list of presidents who had affairs while in office is sobering. Tommy Thompson was a TOTAL horndog when he was governor.

I can't argue with the logic of your position. It just wreaks havoc in reality.

[Harlan Huckleby]

and a permanent witchhunt causes terrible harm, as I explained before.

What part of Spitzer's ouster was due to a permanent witchhunt?

Spitzer's situation was extreme. Although I don't think he should have been ejected, there were factors that lead to intense public attention and pressure.

I want to keep the blue noses among us, the Skinbasket Puritan League, from repeating this mistake.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Why do we have to keep learning the same lessons?

Who's we?

Public sentiment. This issue seems to swing in cycles. I wish we would remove sex scandals permanently.

[Zool]

If the dbag cant keep a secret like this down, how's he going to keep the rest of his ducks in a row? I could care less if he diddles she-males while dressed up like Mary Poppins, but he has to keep that under wraps in order to keep the masses calm.

Is solicitation a felony or a misdemeanor? I think I would lose my job if I was a felon.

[Patler]

I do not pretend to know all of the details of Spitzer's time as AG, and the many suits, threatened actions and the like that he instigated in the securities field. However, some articles imply that he forced resignations and penalties on many individuals and businesses for very technical transgressions, things that everyone knew about and that had been common practice for years. Some were crimes/violations that an AG should have pursued , but others perhaps were just to build his reputation. He used negative publicity as his weapon against reputation-sensitive businesses.

IF that is true (and I emphasize "if" because I do not know enough about those actions), for him to be brought down because of negative publicity from the so-called "victimless" crime of solicitation, and a technical violation of laws to combat money-laundering doesn't make me feel too bad for him. He may have gotten what he gave.

[Harlan Huckleby]

ya, it's hard to find any sympathy for Spitzer.

a new Governor feeling obligated to confess his past sexual affairs is a bad sign. Time was when the press didn't report on the sex lives of politicians. That was better for the country.

[Patler]

a new Governor feeling obligated to confess his past sexual affairs is a bad sign. Time was when the press didn't report on the sex lives of politicians. That was better for the country.

I have to agree with you on both counts. The fact that Paterson and his wife apparently both had affairs something like 7 years ago at a time when their own marriage was floundering is quite irrelevant to anything today, or even then for that matter. It is a little different than a sitting governor hiring high priced call girls while on a trip for the business of the state, in my opinion.

I am a believer that while the public may have the right to know certain things, that doesn't necessarily mean it is good that those things be publicized.

[Kiwon]

And the beat goes on......

Hillary Was in White House on 'Stained Blue Dress' Day

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4482242&page=1

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[Freak Out]

And the beat goes on......

Hillary Was in White House on 'Stained Blue Dress' Day

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4482242&page=1

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...and this is the only reason her schedule was in such demand.

[Kiwon]

...and this is the only reason her schedule was in such demand.

Cutting-edge journalism, baby. Their phone sex conversations should be coming out any day now.

(AP) Lewinsky and the first lady

Hillary Rodham Clinton was in the White House on at least seven days when her husband had sexual encounters with Monica Lewinsky, according to the first lady's calendars released Wednesday.

A look at her schedule on days when Lewinsky said she had sexual encounters with Bill Clinton:

_Nov. 15, 1995: The first lady was in a mid-afternoon "meet & greet" photo opportunity at the White House with various Nobel Laureates and their families. That night, Lewinsky had what she later said was her first sexual encounter with the president in the private study off the Oval office.

_Nov. 17, 1995: Mrs. Clinton had no public schedule and was at the White House. That night, Lewinsky said she had a sexual encounter with the president while he was on the telephone in the White House with a member of Congress.

_Dec. 31, 1995: Lewinsky said she and the president had a sexual encounter early that afternoon in a study down the hall from the Oval Office. Sometime afterward, the president, first lady and their daughter, Chelsea, flew to Hilton Head, S.C., to spend New Year's Eve with hundreds of friends during their annual getaway at an intellectual family retreat known as Renaissance Weekend.

_Jan. 7, 1996: On a Sunday afternoon, Lewinsky and the president spent most of the afternoon in the Oval Office. The first lady and the president had a small dinner with 20 people at "the Old Family Dining Room" at the White House.

_Jan. 21, 1996: The first lady had no public schedule, but she and the president privately toured an exhibit at the National Gallery of Art. Lewinsky and the president had an afternoon sexual encounter in the hallway by the private study next to the Oval Office, Lewinsky said later.

_Feb. 4, 1996: Mrs. Clinton and the president attended the National Governors Association annual dinner. Lewinsky said she and the president had a sexual encounter that day, and sat and talked in the Oval Office for about 45 minutes.

_March 31, 1996: Mrs. Clinton toured an archaeological site and museum in Delphi, Greece, and watched a folk dance performance. That day, Lewinsky said she and the president resumed their sexual contact.

_April 7, 1996, Easter Sunday. Mrs. Clinton had no public schedule. Lewinsky said that, at the president's suggestion, she performed oral sex while he was on the telephone in his office. (Real nice touch. Easter services at church in the morning, a blowjob in the evening.)

_Feb. 28, 1997: The schedule shows Mrs. Clinton was in the White House at least part of the day, when President Clinton and Lewinsky had oral sex near the Oval Office, leaving stains on her dress. There were no public events, but the schedule shows Mrs. Clinton had "drop by" events or meetings in the Map Room and Diplomatic Reception Room between 11 a.m. and 12:30 p.m. The schedule also lists plays and a concert that night, but it is not clear whether Mrs. Clinton attended.

_March 29, 1997: On the day when Lewinsky later told independent counsel Kenneth Starr that she had her final sexual encounter with the president, Mrs. Clinton was thousands of miles away in Eritrea. In his grand jury testimony, the president denied this encounter. The first lady that day toured the Martyrs' Cemetery in Eritrea, where she participated in a wreath-laying ceremony and a tree planting. She also visited a health care clinic, spoke to villagers, and toured a polio vaccination room. She visited a woodworking center, held a round-table discussion with the National Union of Eritrean Women and met the country's president.
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[Kiwon]

Hillary has the gall to fault U.S. troops for not being able to find 6'5" Osama bin-Laden in the mountains of Afghanistan all the while her husband was screwing around in the White House under her nose and she didn't know about it.

Or did she? :?:

"You cur-sed brat!, look what you've done!, I'm melting! What a world! Who would've thought a good little girl like you could destroy my beautiful wickedness!"

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[hoosier]

Where did Hillary fault US troops for failing to find Bin Laden? I've only heard her lay the blame squarely where it belongs: on W and his ill conceived war.

As for Monica, what if Hillary didn't know? Bad luck for her. What if she did know? BFD.





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