Favorite Band (s)

[jack's smirking revenge]

If you've read my posts for a while, you'll get the impression that I'm a metalhead. Well, I am, but I'd like to think I'm pretty diverse. I like everything from Slayer to Enya, but my favorite band is Better Than Ezra ("It was good livin' with you, wah-how.....").

Why? Because their lyrics are comical, fresh and humorous. Their live shows are always entertaining and the band has intelligence and charisma. I've been a fan since my college days in the early 90s and have seen them too many times to count.

What are your faves and why?

tyler

[MJZiggy]

Right now I'm groovin' on Matchbox 20. A radio announcer said the other day that Rob Thomas could sing the phone book and it would sound good. Carlos Santana said that he choose Thomas to sing Smooth because when he sings, you believe him. I agree.

[jack's smirking revenge]

Rob Thomas is a hit-making machine and is a vastly talented musician. I've always dug Matchbox 20 and own all of their albums. A great band.

tyler

[Little Whiskey]

hey jack, can i ruin this thread, as well, with country??

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Coldplay. I dont know why but i think i may be into britpop. I like their lyrics and sounds and the fact that they are a liberal band. u2 is pretty good but i didnt start listening to music seriously until i was like 14 or 15. Need a band where i can follow from the bottom up, from their 1st album on. First coldplay song i heard was the hit "yellow."

Dont take this the wrong way, as I am NOT gay, but i think Chris Martin has a beautiful voice. :lol: :oops:

[HarveyWallbangers]

I agree on Better Than Ezra and Rob Thomas.

My favorite band is Third Eye Blind. I like a little bit of everything, so my mix is a bit eclectic. Other bands and singers that I like include:

Country: Tim McGraw, Garth Brooks
Rock/Alternative: TEB, Better Than Exra, Soul Coughing/Doughty, Radiohead, Blur, Semisonic, The BoDeans, Weezer
Hip Hop: DMX, Method Man, House Of Pain/Everlast
Reggae: Buju Banton
Pop: Hootie, Matchbox 20/Rob Thomas
Old School: Bruce Springsteen, Led Zepellin, The Eagles, Rod Stewart, Guns N' Roses, Motley Crue

[MJZiggy]

Don't forget Gin Blossoms and Aerosmith. Not to mention old Queen.

[jack's smirking revenge]

hey jack, can i ruin this thread, as well, with country??

How dare you soil my thread with a country response. :D

Of course your opinion is welcome. I'm interested who your favorite country band is and why.

tyler

[MJZiggy]

The closest I can get to country is Norah Jones. (or perhaps Adrian Legg, but he is more classical guitar)

[Harlan Huckleby]

Norah Jones is a very modest talent who got way too much public exposure. The new Barbara Streisand.

Sorry for snotty remarks, but the first NJ album got played so many times at the coffee shop where I hang-out, I had to find a new place.

[jack's smirking revenge]

Coldplay. I dont know why but i think i may be into britpop. I like their lyrics and sounds and the fact that they are a liberal band. u2 is pretty good but i didnt start listening to music seriously until i was like 14 or 15. Need a band where i can follow from the bottom up, from their 1st album on. First coldplay song i heard was the hit "yellow."

Dont take this the wrong way, as I am NOT gay, but i think Chris Martin has a beautiful voice. :lol: :oops:

I haven't delved deeply into Coldplay, but I love the song they have on the "Garden State" soundtrack. (I love that whole soundtrack).

I don't think there's anything gay about loving a male singer's voice if you're male. My favorite vocalists are male (though Enya, Sheryl Crow, Beth Gibbons from Portishead, Lisa Gerard from Dead Can Dance follow closely behind).

tyler

[MJZiggy]

Overplay can kill anyone for you.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Michael Stipe is still my favorite vocalist.

I've been liking Death Cab for Cutie, a pop band.

[MJZiggy]

REM is inimitable.

[Little Whiskey]

Well, i had better explain first before i just go and tell you my fav country band. Also let me preface this by saying that i too can listen and enjoy many kinds of music. Hiphop, rock, classical, blues, rap, oldies. just about everything. there is not a whole lot i can't listen too. My neck is not as red as jack thinks, but i'll let him continue to think that way. :smile: In country music, i mostly appreciate the old song writers, and singers. Mostly the ones that were Balladers. Waylon Jennings, Johnny Cash, David Allen Coe and such. I have a great respect for artist who write there own music. You know they have a deeper tie to the songs than just a paycheck. with that being said here is my fav country music artist and the story "behind the music".

so as a kid I spent summers at my grandparents, who lived on farm in western Iowa. And this group had a song that mentioned their town. Small town. no traffic signals, downtown consists of 2 bars, gas station, and a VFW. So it was pretty cool that they wrote a song that had there town.
This group later broke apart (peacefully) and formed Manhiem Steamroller. They only had 1 real popular song, as a matter of fact it was so popular they made a movie after the song. The creator of this group, as i found out later, were really an advertising exec. he wrote a successful commercial. so much so that people were calling radio stations to request the commercial. So the record lable approached them to write a song. Have you guessed the group? CW Mcall. the song, Convoy. and now you know the rest of the story. good day

[Oscar]

I'm kind of a metalhead myself. :smile: My fav. all time would have to be Bryan Adams. Right now I;m into bands like Disturbed but I still listen to the old stuff from time to time. If I were gonna pick a country band, Waylon Jennings would be it. I listen to a lil bit of everything.

[Little Whiskey]

jeffro, I think the country comment was directed towards me. Jack likes me to show off my neck.

but any way, please explain why each of those bands are your fav. give us a "behind the Music".

[Oscar]

Behind the music. OK here we go. As far as Bryan Adams. Back in 1983 I went to a Journey concert in Kansas City and B.A. opened the show. He kicked ten kinds of ass and I've been hooked ever sense. When I was a kid my dad listened to country and had a Waylon Jennings 8-track, used to play it all the time. Are you sure Hank done it this way ( I think thats the title to the song) has always stuck with me. :D

[HarveyWallbangers]

I saw Bryan Adams in '84 or '85, and it was a kickass show.

[Little Whiskey]

jeffro, I can't say if that is the song that stuck with you or not but it is a Waylon song. I can remember as a kid listening to country music with my grandparents and folks. my grandpa was a huge Cash fan. here are the lyrics to your song.
------
It's the same old tune, fiddle and guitar
Where do we take it from here
Rhinestone suits and new shiny cars
We've been the same way for years
We need to change

Somebody told me when I got to Nashville
Son you finally got it made
Old Hank made it here, we’re all sure that you will
But I don't think Hank done it this way
I don't think Hank done it this way

Ten years down the road, making one night stands
Speeding my young life away
Tell me one more time just so I understand
Are you sure Hank done it this way
Did Ol' Hank really do it this way?

I've seen the world with a five piece band
Looking at the back side of me
Singing my songs and one of his now and then
But I don't think Hank done 'em this a'way
No I don't think Hank done 'em this a'way

[Little Whiskey]

i think we all know this Waylon song. even jack, i know he claims to no enjoy country, but i bet you were still watching dukes of hazzard. Admit it you had a thing for Daisy.

Just'a good ol' boys
Never meanin' no harm.
Beats all you never saw
Been in trouble with the law
Since the day they was born

Staightnin' the curves
Flatnin the hills
Someday the mountain might get 'em
But the law never will

Makin' their way
The only way they know how
That's just a little bit more
Than the law will allow.

Makin' their way
The only way they know how
That's just a little bit more
Than the law will allow.

I'm a good ol' boy
You know my momma loves me
But she don't undestand
They keep a showin my hands and not my face on TV

[MJZiggy]

Does Southern Rock count toward country? I did like .38 Special. I just can't handle twang.

[jack's smirking revenge]

i think we all know this Waylon song. even jack, i know he claims to no enjoy country, but i bet you were still watching dukes of hazzard. Admit it you had a thing for Daisy.

I totally loved "Dukes of Hazzard", even liked a bit of country (like this song) when I was a kid. Yes, I have a bit of that neck discoloration too... :D

tyler

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Geez, there is a lot of people with terrible musical taste. Bryan Adams. LOL

Better than Ezra, 3rd Eye Blind. Catchy, but pablum and extremely trite.

1. Brian Jonestown Massacre
2. Elbow
3. Flaming Lips
4. Luna
5. Spiritualized
6. Mercury Rev
7. Spoon
8. Black Rebel Motorcycle Club
9. Joy Division/New Order
10.Secret Machines

And, yes, I will be at Coachella again.

[Little Whiskey]

Geez, there is a lot of people with terrible musical taste.

well, just jack. everyone else's is okay.

however, can't say that i have heard of any of your bands/groups/artist. i'm gonna guess they don't get much radio play. thats okay neither did david allen coe. (except 1) pretty much undergound "country"

zig i would classify southern rock as country. thats why its called southern rock. have you listened to Van Zant? they cross there s. rock roots with good ole country lyrics. no twang. good stuff.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

1. Brian Jonestown Massacre
2. Elbow
3. Flaming Lips
4. Luna
5. Spiritualized
6. Mercury Rev
7. Spoon
8. Black Rebel Motorcycle Club
9. Joy Division/New Order
10.Secret Machines



Who the fuck are all those?

[Oscar]

I've always thought the Eagles were a band that could play a lil rock and a lil country. Another great band.

[Little Whiskey]

I totally loved "Dukes of Hazzard", even liked a bit of country (like this song) when I was a kid. Yes, I have a bit of that neck discoloration too... :D

tyler

jack, we still need to work on your nascar driver. slowly but surely your neck is reding quite nicely!!!

so when you need to run to the local home improvement store which do you go to?

[MJZiggy]

so when you need to run to the local home improvement store which do you go to?If I were to answer that question you would call me the unredneck!

[jack's smirking revenge]

I totally loved "Dukes of Hazzard", even liked a bit of country (like this song) when I was a kid. Yes, I have a bit of that neck discoloration too... :D

tyler

jack, we still need to work on your nascar driver. slowly but surely your neck is reding quite nicely!!!

so when you need to run to the local home improvement store which do you go to?

I don't never need to run to the local home improvement store, coz I have a trailer. Most of the time I just end up sleeping in my cab anyway.

Like that? :D

tyler

[Tyrone Bigguns]

1. Brian Jonestown Massacre
2. Elbow
3. Flaming Lips
4. Luna
5. Spiritualized
6. Mercury Rev
7. Spoon
8. Black Rebel Motorcycle Club
9. Joy Division/New Order
10.Secret Machines



Who the fuck are all those?

Great bands. When you stop listening to corporate rock or whatever else the marketing genius force feed down your throat, you will discover a multitude of great artists.

[jack's smirking revenge]

1. Brian Jonestown Massacre
2. Elbow
3. Flaming Lips
4. Luna
5. Spiritualized
6. Mercury Rev
7. Spoon
8. Black Rebel Motorcycle Club
9. Joy Division/New Order
10.Secret Machines



Who the fuck are all those?

Great bands. When you stop listening to corporate rock or whatever else the marketing genius force feed down your throat, you will discover a multitude of great artists.

Tyrone, I appreciate the variety of your list. I checked out songs from "Tepid Peppermint Wonderland: A Retrospective" and its not my cup of tea, but I'm interested in checking out the rest of them (I have heard/ heard of Joy Division/New Order and they are pretty mainstream). I do have to take a bit of offense to your inference that we are annoyingly mainstream with our musical tastes. This is a "favorites" thread, not necessarily a "what bands do you like that fly under the radar" thread. As a manager of a rock band in Minneapolis, I know exactly what you're talking about (anti-corporate angst) and could probably throw a page of bands that aren't "corporate rock" or "market-influenced" bands your way, most of which you probably wouldn't recognize either. Any single person that listens to the radio is spoon-fed what they hear. Some of the biggest stations in Minneapolis are owned by ABC/Disney and they have very defined playlists. To play devils advocate, the reason that bands like that are on radio is because they actually make some pretty good music that appeals across many markets. A blessing and a curse perhaps, but most musicians want to get paid for what they do.

The double-edged sword of being a starving artist--starve with your craft and scrape to make a living, or craft to the masses and survive. There's nothing wrong with either directions, as both are applying their craft.

tyler

[Tyrone Bigguns]

1. Brian Jonestown Massacre
2. Elbow
3. Flaming Lips
4. Luna
5. Spiritualized
6. Mercury Rev
7. Spoon
8. Black Rebel Motorcycle Club
9. Joy Division/New Order
10.Secret Machines



Who the fuck are all those?

Great bands. When you stop listening to corporate rock or whatever else the marketing genius force feed down your throat, you will discover a multitude of great artists.

Tyrone, I appreciate the variety of your list. I checked out songs from "Tepid Peppermint Wonderland: A Retrospective" and its not my cup of tea, but I'm interested in checking out the rest of them (I have heard/ heard of Joy Division/New Order and they are pretty mainstream). I do have to take a bit of offense to your inference that we are annoyingly mainstream with our musical tastes. This is a "favorites" thread, not necessarily a "what bands do you like that fly under the radar" thread. As a manager of a rock band in Minneapolis, I know exactly what you're talking about (anti-corporate angst) and could probably throw a page of bands that aren't "corporate rock" or "market-influenced" bands your way, most of which you probably wouldn't recognize either. Any single person that listens to the radio is spoon-fed what they hear. Some of the biggest stations in Minneapolis are owned by ABC/Disney and they have very defined playlists. To play devils advocate, the reason that bands like that are on radio is because they actually make some pretty good music that appeals across many markets. A blessing and a curse perhaps, but most musicians want to get paid for what they do.

The double-edged sword of being a starving artist--starve with your craft and scrape to make a living, or craft to the masses and survive. There's nothing wrong with either directions, as both are applying their craft.

tyler

Jack: I would suggest starting with Her Satanic Majesty's for BJM. Or for a real look at BJM, rent DIG, which profiles them and the Dandy Warhols. Another criminally underlooked band...course, you've heard them a billion times on commercials but probably didn't realize who you were listening to (they use the Dandies in a chevy commercial, just like AIR is used for Toyota, I believe.

These are favorites, not bands that fly under the radar. Each of these bands are on fairly major labels and have released multiple cds/albums. This isn't some list of bands that are on regional labels.

I would say that most bands on the radio are there because of payola and other shills. Mainstream radio isn't interested in good music, it is interested in selling advertisements. So, why play something new when you can just regurgitate the same ol' dreck that seems familiar. Or you get AOR playing the same 3 songs...oh, wow, what a surprise, they are playing aqualung on 2 for tuesday. LOL.

I would say most those corporate bands are like Mickey Ds. Very average, little nutrition and made for mass consumption. Everyone knows Mickey Ds, everyone can eat there, but nobody ever says it is the best burger they had (if they do, then you can pretty much dismiss them as having taste buds.)

3rd Eye, Better than Ezra, etc. wrote some catchy pop songs, but mostly it was all about how they are marketed. Good looking guys that appeal to chicks. The lead singer of Ezra himself said that he chose music over acting because he thought he would be successful earlier. To quote Ron Wolf, both are farts in the wind.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Third Eye Blind got hot with their first album, but most of the stuff they've made wouldn't even get a sniff of radio play. Hell, their best songs weren't even their popular songs. I bet 99% on here have heard of Semi-Charmed Life, but very few have heard of God Of Wine, Crystal Baller, or Wake For Young Souls. I really don't care if they are popular. All I know is that I dig the shit they put out, and when I play their music to my friends, they like it.

Radiohead and Blur got popular. To me, that doesn't automatically mean I lose respect for them. That's just elitist thinking.

When I was younger, I was into all of the underground, unpopular shit too. I don't have the kind of time it takes to devote myself to that anymore.

Jack, you remember a Hard Punk phase that went through Minneapolis about 10 years ago? Bands like The Cows were making their rounds at First Ave. I was right with all of those "gutter schmucks" listening to that stuff. Damn near lost my hearing in those days.

[BackPack]

To add a bit to the country talk above a band called Leftover Salmon, kind of a bluegrass hippie band I guess, did a cover of Are You Sure Hank Done It This Way where they actually got Waylon to sing on the track with them...not as good as the original but pretty kick ass nonetheless. Along those same lines Yonder Mountain String Band is a pretty good bluegrass/country band that some of you country lovers might enjoy. However, my new favorite country act is Neko Case (going to see her this friday). This chick is worth checking out even if you don't like country all that much. Her other gig is the drummer in the punk band The New Pornagraphers...you gotta love it!! Another good "country" act (a bit out there) where you might see just as many mohawks as cowboy hats at a live show, is Slim Cessna's Auto Club. If I'm lucky I'll be catching the tail end of their show after Neko.

These aren't necessarily my favorite bands but I thought I'd mention them for any of you country lovers looking for something new with some teeth!

[GrnBay007]

U2 :D

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Third Eye Blind got hot with their first album, but most of the stuff they've made wouldn't even get a sniff of radio play. Hell, their best songs weren't even their popular songs. I bet 99% on here have heard of Semi-Charmed Life, but very few have heard of God Of Wine, Crystal Baller, or Wake For Young Souls. I really don't care if they are popular. All I know is that I dig the shit they put out, and when I play their music to my friends, they like it.

Radiohead and Blur got popular. To me, that doesn't automatically mean I lose respect for them. That's just elitist thinking.

When I was younger, I was into all of the underground, unpopular shit too. I don't have the kind of time it takes to devote myself to that anymore.

Jack, you remember a Hard Punk phase that went through Minneapolis about 10 years ago? Bands like The Cows were making their rounds at First Ave. I was right with all of those "gutter schmucks" listening to that stuff. Damn near lost my hearing in those days.

My buddy drummed with the cows.

I'm not young and it doesn't take that much time. You are exactly why the consumer gets what they get. You don't question or challenge. Therefore, they continue to spoon feed you shit.

Radiohead and Blur aren't even in the same category as 3rd Eye. Nothing elitist about it. If you enjoy it, great. But, it is disengenous to lump them together.

[billy_oliver880]

Sevendust.








. :twisted:

[MJZiggy]

Adrian Legg, Vanessa Mae

[swede]

Jack, you remember a Hard Punk phase that went through Minneapolis about 10 years ago? Bands like The Cows were making their rounds at First Ave. I was right with all of those "gutter schmucks" listening to that stuff. Damn near lost my hearing in those days.


OMG Harv,

I always thought you were an old dude. You are such a knowledgeable and calm poster who only very occasionally gets pissed off or drawn into nonsense. A grown up's grown up. Now I discover you are just a knowledgeable and calm not-so-old dude.

Will wonders never cease.

[Oscar]

Lithiumm Fix. Interesting band.. I'm the guy with long hair...... :D The one hit wonders or the wonder If's.. There all my Fav's... :wink:

[HarveyWallbangers]

OMG Harv,

I always thought you were an old dude. You are such a knowledgeable and calm poster who only very occasionally gets pissed off or drawn into nonsense. A grown up's grown up. Now I discover you are just a knowledgeable and calm not-so-old dude.

Will wonders never cease.

Too funny! Thanks! Are you old or young? I envisioned you as an older dude because of the name.

My wife is of Swedish descent. She studied in Sweden for 6 months while in college. She really likes the Swedish hockey players (Forsberg, Naslund). But not for their hockey skills.
:D

[K-town]

In no particular order, these are my favorite bands.

Dropkick Murphys
Rancid
Bob Seger and the Silver Bullet Band
Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers
Dream Theatre
Metallica (pre-1991)
Bad Company
Rob Zombie
Sheryl Crow
Queensryche

[jack's smirking revenge]

K-Town, have you heard any stuff of of Mindcrime2? I'm a huge Q-ryche fan too, but I haven't been able to tolerate their last couple albums because of Geoff Tate's vocal decay. The couple songs I heard off Mindcrime2 sound bad. Interested if you've heard any stuff off of it.

tyler

[billy_oliver880]

Metallica (pre-1991)


Word.

That goes for Green Day as well....what is this crap they are putting out these days...nothing like the stuff they were singing in the 90s.

[jack's smirking revenge]

Once Metallica chopped their hair, it was all over. Not simply because of the hair, but because they thought they could be cute and trendy. "Load" and "Re-load" are loads of crap. "Master of Puppets", "Ride The Lightning" and "And Justice For All...." (mainly Justice) is the Metallica that I know and love. (There were a couple decent songs on the black album, but few).

tyler

[MJZiggy]

Not much of a metalhead. Bad Company is great. I do like Josh Groban, though. And I have to admit, the Shrek soundtrack is not mine, but it is GREAT cleaning music, as is some of the old club music. Brings back memories too. Like I just remembered New Order.

And Jack, would you please check your pm again. I think I'm going to need a total rewrite or maybe I was just tired and it's fine. I don't know. So tell me.

[Little Whiskey]

kinda funny how successful bands are the ones putting out crap. i never understood that way of thinking. Its one thing to say you don't like it. but don't say all the stuff on the radio is crap. just like stuff that doesn't make it to the radio is not all crap. a lot of "nobodies" are just trying to get their break.
nobody makes me buy a CD. I do it on my own. If i like their music enough, I buy. I don't think anyone would call Willie Nelson a conformist, yet he has had some hits.

[MJZiggy]

How's rehab coming, Whiskey?

[Little Whiskey]

thanks for asking zig, i alway knew you cared.
well, this morning was pretty rough. i haven't had "the juice" in over 24 hours. i almost fell asleep behind the wheel and tried to fight a Semi. I didn't think i'd win so i backed down and got back in my lane. the headaches are terrible and my coworker is currently working on removing his computer from his nether regions. he still couldn't leave kenseth alone. he also thru a jab at the packers and favre as well. but other than that i have been doing well. i'm trying to stay out of the cocaine thread since i know it will try to tempt me back to the dark side.

[MJZiggy]

Fight on, Dude!

[FavreChild]

i haven't had "the juice" in over 24 hours.

Well, they say the first 24 hrs is the hardest...

At least your co-workers aren't throwing cans at you as you walk by (a la the Barry Bonds syringe treatment).

[Little Whiskey]

well since his lower orifice is currently housing his computer. I'd have to shove that can up his nose, if he tried that! :shock:

[K-town]

K-Town, have you heard any stuff of of Mindcrime2? I'm a huge Q-ryche fan too, but I haven't been able to tolerate their last couple albums because of Geoff Tate's vocal decay. The couple songs I heard off Mindcrime2 sound bad. Interested if you've heard any stuff off of it.

tyler

What little I've heard sounds BAD...rehashed and kind of lifeless. I stopped buying their stuff right around Queensryche2000. Actually, I got rid of everything after Empire. In their day, noone was better. Now it's mostly Dream Theatre. And oh, how could I forget Savatage? Dead Winter Dead - love it. Christmas Eve, Sarajevo - great tune.

[MJZiggy]

Which brings us right back to the TSO that I mentioned in the other thread. Awesome, complex music. And I remembered it was Daryl Pediford that did such spectacular vocals.

[Deputy Nutz]

Here is my top ten in no specific order

Beatles, What cant you say about he Beatles, best song writing ever. The greatest band that has ever graced this Earth.
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Johnny Cash, Made simple sound so wonderful. His late American Recordings were unbelievable, so good that you listen and cry at the same time.
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Toby Keith, He has brought back outlaw country. He is cut out of the mold of Walyon and Nelson and Merle. He has a fuck you attitude to those that try to hold him back, and all he does is produce music that people beg to hear.
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Dwight Yokam, You can't get no more hillbilly than Dwight. The funny thing is, everything he has produced has come out of California, and he has given a big finger to Nashville. He has been going for close to 25 years and he gives one hell of a performance, his voice and sound just draw you to his albums
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Willie Nelson, I will be honest, I didn't grow up listening to Willie, instead I grew up listening to other greats like Kenny Rogers and Neil Diamond, but I got turned onto Willie in the 90s by a buddy of mine, and there is no better story teller in Country music. His soft sound just kinda makes you sway back and forth.
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Neil Diamond, Hit after hit, and song after song whats not to like? Talk about a great performer. I am 27 years old and went to a Neil concert about 10 years ago and was just floored by the energy of this man. His song writting is damn near legendary.
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Too Short, Short was rapping since the early 80's as he likes to remind us of in his lyrics. Some of his shit is just bust a gut funny like Blow Job Betty and Cocktails.
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Tupac, revolutionized gansta rap and made all of us white kids shave our heads and get Thug tatooed on our abs. His music almost put you in the ghetto. Very few come around like Pac and it was a shame but also not suprising that he was taken at only 26 years old. It will be ten years this September.
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NWA, talk about making an impact! Nobody had ever heard such crude and violent lyrics until NWA blew us a way in the late 80s with the original Gangsta shit. If Boyz in the Hood isn't the pledge for hip hop I don't know what is.
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AC/DC, Last but not least, I have probably listened to AC/DC more times than my eardrums care to remember. But AC/DC LIVE album went through my Discman over close to 100 times before every football game that I played. No music probably has a stronger hold on my soul then AC/DC, because of its close connection to the sport I love. Hell even coaching I want to blast Highway to Hell, and Shoot to Thrill before the game.
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[HarveyWallbangers]

Outside of Too Short, I like your list Nutz. I prefer Waylon over Willie. I'm a fan of Dwight Yoakam also--the Bakersfield sound.

[jack's smirking revenge]

Dwight Yokam was cool in "Sling Blade".

tyler

[Anti-Polar Bear]

I'm new school. Heres my list for anyone who cares:

Coldplay
Snow Patrol
The Verve
Athlete
Keane
Norah Jones
Lindsey Lohan
Eminem
50 Cents
Foo Fighters
Rage Against the Machine/Audioslave
Matchbox 20
Everclear
U2
Ja Rule

[Little Whiskey]

Nutz, i like your list. Even the Too $hort (correct spelling) entry. I've been thinking that Too $hort's Cusswords should be the sites Theme song. "I bust a nut and killed the bitch" you can see the deeper side of Mr. Shaw. He shows serious remorse for his actions! :mrgreen: Blowjob Betty is hilarious!!

I'd have to add GNR to you list as well. I think they changed the way people looked at "Hair Bands"

so jack is my color starting to fade a bit??

[jack's smirking revenge]

Nutz, i like your list. Even the Too $hort (correct spelling) entry. I've been thinking that Too $hort's Cusswords should be the sites Theme song. "I bust a nut and killed the bitch" you can see the deeper side of Mr. Shaw. He shows serious remorse for his actions! :mrgreen: Blowjob Betty is hilarious!!

I'd have to add GNR to you list as well. I think they changed the way people looked at "Hair Bands"

so jack is my color starting to fade a bit??

GNR is a old-school, redneck rock band so, no, not very much. Nice try Whiskey.

:D

tyler

(just kiddin' bro)

[Little Whiskey]

GNR is a old-school, redneck rock band so, no, not very much. Nice try Whiskey.

:D

tyler

(just kiddin' bro)

what about my knowledge of Too $hort? BEEEEAAAATCH!!!

[jack's smirking revenge]

Fine, fine. You win. You're just a pink-neck. Oh so very Brokeback.

tyler

[Little Whiskey]

remember jack, you are the ANTI-Whiskey. I like girls, that means you like.......brokeback mountain

[MJZiggy]

I'm starting to thing you two are in love.

[jack's smirking revenge]

remember jack, you are the ANTI-Whiskey. I like girls, that means you like.......brokeback mountain

I think I'll have to be the anti-Whisk in another way. I don't swing that way, pickneck. :cool:

Hey, Brokeback is closer to country than I am. My version of Brokeback would involve Rob Halford, I guess. At least your version involved cowboys....

tyler

[Little Whiskey]

let me tell you this jack!! brokeback were cowboys from the '00's. i dont' think wyatt earp was messing around with doc holiday!

[jack's smirking revenge]

let me tell you this jack!! brokeback were cowboys from the '00's. i dont' think wyatt earp was messing around with doc holiday!

No, but he could've been messin' 'round with his deputy....

HA! You rock Whiskey!

tyler

[HarveyWallbangers]

John Wayne would have put a boot in somebody's ass if they went Brokeback on him.

[Little Whiskey]

I'm starting to thing you two are in love.

just because jack and i feud civilly, doesn't mean that is something between us. we could start scott and woody 2, if you would like? :mrgreen:

[Little Whiskey]

HA! You rock Whiskey!




no jack remeber I country, you rock

now zig is really going to think we have a thing going

[K-town]

HA! You rock Whiskey!




no jack remeber I country, you rock

now zig is really going to think we have a thing going

I have a image in my mind..."I'm a little bit country" "I'ma little bit rock and roll"
I will try to purge this image with copious amounts of alcohol.

[MJZiggy]

EEEEEEEWWWWWWWW!!

K, that's worse than the brokeback imagery. Now I'm going to have to drink too, which reminds me of George Thorougood.

[BackPack]

Neil Diamond = Specfuckintacular!!

What's not to love about Hot August Nights...etc....etc...

[K-town]

:mrgreen:
Am I the only person who watched Donny and Marie with the sound turned off on the TV, and the stereo cranking out Ted Nugent?

Seriously, I also forgot Dire Straits and Faith No More.
And that's it.
I'm done naming bands. For now.

[Oscar]

Luv Brotha Luv Say Brotha Luv's Travelin Salvation Show!!! :shock: I'm ten kinds of F-ed up It's been a Neal Diamond kinda day..LOL

[MJZiggy]

:mrgreen:
Am I the only person who watched Donny and Marie with the sound turned off on the TV, and the stereo cranking out Ted Nugent?

Seriously, I also forgot Dire Straits and Faith No More.
And that's it.
I'm done naming bands. For now.Dire Straits, of course!

[BackPack]

Pack up the babies and grab the old ladies...

[Oscar]

Cuz everyone knows...That....... I can't remember the rest of the song. :smile: One more beer and I'll be fine..

[BackPack]

...and everyone goes to Brother Loves show...Halleluja..

[Deputy Nutz]

eyes dark as coal....

[jack's smirking revenge]

:mrgreen:
Am I the only person who watched Donny and Marie with the sound turned off on the TV, and the stereo cranking out Ted Nugent?

Seriously, I also forgot Dire Straits and Faith No More.
And that's it.
I'm done naming bands. For now.

Faith No More! Hell yah! "Album of the Year" was one amazing album. Good note to go out on.

tyler

[jack's smirking revenge]

Right now I'm jamming to a band called Office of Strategic Influence, a pseudo-super band made up of members of Fates Warning (Jim Matheos), Porcupine Tree (Stephen Wilson), and Dream Theater (Mike Portnoy, Kevin Moore). Prog rock/metal with a touch of techno. Good stuff. Check it out if you have the opportunity.

tyler

[GrnBay007]

eyes dark as coal....

And when he lifts his face
Every ear in the place is on him

[Little Whiskey]

i want my mtv
iwant my mtv
i want my mtv

(cue guitar solo)

[Deputy Nutz]

I like Britany Spears.

[K-town]

Britney Spears and Anna Nicole Smith (pre-diet/crystal meth) are gonna be (twin) sisters.
Have we all seen the picture of Britney using her child as an airbag?
Doesn't seem all that long ago that many (myself included) though she was HOT. Time is a killer.
Stupid time.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Geez, there is a lot of people with terrible musical taste. Bryan Adams. LOL

Better than Ezra, 3rd Eye Blind. Catchy, but pablum and extremely trite.

1. Brian Jonestown Massacre
2. Elbow
3. Flaming Lips
4. Luna
5. Spiritualized
6. Mercury Rev
7. Spoon
8. Black Rebel Motorcycle Club
9. Joy Division/New Order
10.Secret Machines

And, yes, I will be at Coachella again.

I just subscribed to napster and was listening to a indie playlist and some of the bands are really good. I gotta admit ive been listening to too much popular musics and is missing a whole damn lot.

[BENZITO]

My favs would be:

1. Led Zeppelin
2. Petty
3. Pink Floyd
4.Tool
5.2pac/eminem

[Tarlam!]

I have sooooo many.

I used to manage bands in Sydney, 22 years ago. Boy, I cringe when I say that. My only claim to fame is that Crowded House's manager took over one of the bands I managed, however, they only made 1 album the fizzled. I was 20 years old at the time!

(Tyler, that's prolly why we get along! I know you're a manager, too.)

Anyways, a lot of my faves are Aussie bands, prolly defunct by now.

The Angels, Mental As Anything, et al from that era had to be lived through the be believed. The Sydney Pub Circuit was amazing for a young goon like me. Those days will never come back. But, I was far too young to know what I had and to really savour it..... :sad:

[Little Whiskey]

Those days will never come back. But, I was far too young to know what I had and to really savour it..... :sad:


happens to us all. youth is wasted on the young and wealth is wasted on the old!

[Tarlam!]

[quote=Tarlam!]
...and wealth is wasted on the old!

Yah, but I don't wanna be old and poor either...

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Geez, there is a lot of people with terrible musical taste. Bryan Adams. LOL

Better than Ezra, 3rd Eye Blind. Catchy, but pablum and extremely trite.

1. Brian Jonestown Massacre
2. Elbow
3. Flaming Lips
4. Luna
5. Spiritualized
6. Mercury Rev
7. Spoon
8. Black Rebel Motorcycle Club
9. Joy Division/New Order
10.Secret Machines

And, yes, I will be at Coachella again.

I just subscribed to napster and was listening to a indie playlist and some of the bands are really good. I gotta admit ive been listening to too much popular musics and is missing a whole damn lot.

Good for you. They continue to spoon feed you crap and tell you its great. I know you love cold play. Another great band is Reindeer Section. A supergroup of Scottish artists (arab strap, snow patrol, etc.).

[Iron Mike]

Anyways, a lot of my faves are Aussie bands, prolly defunct by now.

I had this album:

http://lyred.com/covers/midnight_oil_-_red_sails_in_the_sunset.jpg

and this one:

http://cover6.cduniverse.com/MuzeAudioArt/110/110515.jpg

[Tarlam!]

Thanks I-Mike. That sure brings back some memories! I the the Oils are still around, they must be 50 year olds by now. The Gurus, I dunno about what happened to them. They were hugely popular, though they never made it internationally like Midnight Oil...

[MJZiggy]

I still like the old Midnight Oil.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

MARS NEEDS GUITARS!!!!!!

[Joemailman]

The Beatles
The Blasters
Commander Cody And His Lost Planet Airmen
Bob Dylan & The Band
Steve Earle
Emmylou Harris & The Hot Band
Los Lobos
Lynyrd Skynyrd
Tift Merritt
Van Morrison
Willie Nelson
R.E.M.
Bruce Springsteen & The E Street Band
U2
Stevie Ray Vaughan And Double Trouble
Neil Young And Crazy Horse

[Charles Woodson]

Jimmy eat World is a group i really like, along with them is Goo goo dolls, Blink 182, some rap artists,O.A.R., Sugar Cult, Bush, Match Box 20, Sublime, Bare Nacked Ladies, Lit, ACDC, 311, EVE 6, Live, Sum 41, and Young Buck

[MJZiggy]

I like a lot of stuff on that list, Nick. Perhaps I'm not so old after all.

Jack, the new Better than Ezra cut, "juicy" hit local radio for the first time this morning and I immediately thought of you. I like it--nice hook.

[No Mo Moss]

I'll chime in, here are some of my favorites

U2 (still one of the best live shows you can see)
Arcade Fire (remind me of a young U2, very raw)
David Bowie (often copied, never even close to the original)
Ween (crazy brothers who f*cking Rock)
Aphex Twin (insane techno, completely original sound)
The Beatles (still such good music)
Beastie Boys (still love em)
Air (french electronic group)
Beck (so Funky man)
Atmosphere (Minneapolis hip-hop that's damn good)
The Cure (Disintegration and Wish are still some of the best albums I've ever heard)

There's more......

[Tyrone Bigguns]

I'll chime in, here are some of my favorites

U2 (still one of the best live shows you can see)
Arcade Fire (remind me of a young U2, very raw)
David Bowie (often copied, never even close to the original)
Ween (crazy brothers who f*cking Rock)
Aphex Twin (insane techno, completely original sound)
The Beatles (still such good music)
Beastie Boys (still love em)
Air (french electronic group)
Beck (so Funky man)
Atmosphere (Minneapolis hip-hop that's damn good)
The Cure (Disintegration and Wish are still some of the best albums I've ever heard)

There's more......

Nice list, though by the time the Cure hit Dis/Wish I was way over them. In Between Days is my favorite newish Cure (much prefer the older/rawer Cure).

BTW, Air was the best show at Coachella 3 years. If you like them, check out M83 and Phoenix.

[No Mo Moss]

I forgot Bjork.

Have you checked out both of those Cure albums though?

I've heard M83 but need to check out the other one. Thanks. Was NIN at Cochella?

I hear NIN and Bauhaus are touring together, should be a great show.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

I forgot Bjork.

Have you checked out both of those Cure albums though?

I've heard M83 but need to check out the other one. Thanks. Was NIN at Cochella?

I hear NIN and Bauhaus are touring together, should be a great show.

Yeah, I've heard both those albums (i think we are dating ourselves by calling them that though). I feel the same about them as I do DM. It's all pretty good, but, they really haven't had a new idea in a LONG time. Both are in that Rolling Stones phase of their careers. You catch them cause they are legends, but they long since have lost the fire.

Phoenix was the original backing band for Air. Superb. I'm sure you've heard it, but I love the soundtrack to Virgin Suicides. Playground Love is pure melancholy.

NIN: Not 3 years ago. Headliners were Cure (very bad show, no energy) and Radiohead (amazing show). Highlights were unannounced Beck, Death Cab, Mogwai, and Belle and Sebastian. Lowlight: Wilco cancelling. Lots of great bands.

Last year Bauhaus were there. No NIN. But, with Coldplay, Snow patrol, Chem Bros, Doves, Mercury Rev who could complain. Stereophonics put on a hell of a show.

Massive Attack and Sigur Ros will be great this year.

[No Mo Moss]

I think the cure have a much better career of music then DM. DM had three great albums and some hits in between. Wish represented a resurgence by the Cure in the early 90's and succeeded greatly. I was only in 8th grade when that came out but I started listening when I was twelve.

I think one of the reasons I like U2 so much is that they are really pretty good at re-inventing themselves. Some of their best stuff comes after they become stale. Zooropa is my favorite. I liked their last album, but think their next wil either be great or be terrible.

I like Wilco, too bad they didn't show. Speaking of death cab, I love the first postal service album, hopefully they can recreate that on a second.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

I think the cure have a much better career of music then DM. DM had three great albums and some hits in between. Wish represented a resurgence by the Cure in the early 90's and succeeded greatly. I was only in 8th grade when that came out but I started listening when I was twelve.

I think one of the reasons I like U2 so much is that they are really pretty good at re-inventing themselves. Some of their best stuff comes after they become stale. Zooropa is my favorite. I liked their last album, but think their next wil either be great or be terrible.

I like Wilco, too bad they didn't show. Speaking of death cab, I love the first postal service album, hopefully they can recreate that on a second.

I think that your perspective on DM reflects your age (i'm a bit older and lived thru the 80s). DM was HUGE and was/is bigger than the Cure. Total sales double the Cure. By 88 they sold out Rose Bowl, the highest figure in 8 years. Tour was documented by DA Pennebaker and later was a best seller as 101.

They had already released a comp of singles by 85. They have had numerous tribute/cover CDs.

Not to mention spawning all of Vince Clarke's side projects (Yaz, the assembly, Erasure). And the huge influence on Techno.

[No Mo Moss]

Yeah, I have 101 and have read a few biography's of the band. I've seen them live a few times too, great show. I still think they only had 4 (not three) great albums, not counting 101.

Black celebration, Music for the Masses, Violater, Some great reward. But like I said before the stuff they put out lately hasn't been very good. Exciter had a few good songs as did Ultra, but compared with their old stuff it isn't even close. Their latest wasn't very good.

The Cure has some similarities. I think they also helped usher in a gothic idustrial sound. A lot of parralells, yes though DM is the bigger group, perhaps better.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Yeah, I have 101 and have read a few biography's of the band. I've seen them live a few times too, great show. I still think they only had 4 (not three) great albums, not counting 101.

Black celebration, Music for the Masses, Violater, Some great reward. But like I said before the stuff they put out lately hasn't been very good. Exciter had a few good songs as did Ultra, but compared with their old stuff it isn't even close. Their latest wasn't very good.

The Cure has some similarities. I think they also helped usher in a gothic idustrial sound. A lot of parralells, yes though DM is the bigger group, perhaps better.

No Mo: very reasonable attitude. By the early 90s I was kinda over them. I really liked the early 80s singles and Speak & Spell is just a classic of simple electronica.

I agree with you on new DM. It just sounds the same to me. They do it well, but I could care less now. I would say it is like the Rolling Stones. At a certain point you just don't need anymore new stuff. The Stones haven't done anything new since late 70s.

Live show: Agreed. And much better than the Cure. This is coming from a fan of the Cure. To me, A Night Like This and In Between Days are the height of the band. I like the more gothic sound, Charlotte Sometimes, etc.

Though, I wouldn't really put them as major innovators of gothic. Certainly not in the pantheon groups: Joy Division, Bauhaus (Tones, Love&Rockets), Mission, Sisters, Siouxsie, etc. They are more gothic lite.

It is hard to sustain interest in a band for a long time. Same for REM and U2. It is really hard when it is just you and the select few listening, then they move to stadiums. U2: I like the singles i hear, but I haven't had a burning urge to buy anything since the Joshua Tree.

Anyway, it is good to chat with someone who is into music, listening to current new stuff and revisiting the old.

[jack's smirking revenge]

Anyway, it is good to chat with someone who is into music, listening to current new stuff and revisiting the old.

All due respect Tyrone, but I think you've turned some people off from talking music with you when you called some our favorite stuff "trite and pablum". I know I'm pretty much done with this thread. I wasn't offended, just knew the conversation was over.

I'm into lots of music. I listen to new stuff and revisit the old. Just not in your genre. Music is my life as the manager of a rock band and with being connected to both mainstream, indie and local music. But you can't call someone else's music trash and think you're sitting on a heap of treasure. It just doesn't work that way.

Those are my two cents. Carry on with your music chat.

tyler

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Anyway, it is good to chat with someone who is into music, listening to current new stuff and revisiting the old.

All due respect Tyrone, but I think you've turned some people off from talking music with you when you called some our favorite stuff "trite and pablum". I know I'm pretty much done with this thread. I wasn't offended, just knew the conversation was over.

I'm into lots of music. I listen to new stuff and revisit the old. Just not in your genre. Music is my life as the manager of a rock band and with being connected to both mainstream, indie and local music. But you can't call someone else's music trash and think you're sitting on a heap of treasure. It just doesn't work that way.

Those are my two cents. Carry on with your music chat.

tyler

Tyler, I highly doubt i caused anybody to stop posting. It is a fairly limited scope for a post. I posted my feelings on some music on April 3rd. I see plenty of posts after that in which people continued to mention their faves. And, I didn't criticize nor even comment. So, I think you are a bit misguided. Certainly didn't stop anybody for the next 3 weeks. And, it is a bit disengenous for you to claim that you were turned off and the conversation was over, since I see plenty of posts by you after my comments.

Also, if you can't defend your position, or point out that it isn't "trite or pablum" than that is your problem, not mine. I can be educated. But, simply using emotion isn't going to do it.

Lastly, you certainly can call something trash. There are standards. We are allowed to make judgements. Certainly your read some magazines that RATE CDs. Most reviewers would put a 3rd Eye Blind CD as somewhere in the 3 out of 5 star rating.

Since you and others make the statement that it must be good because it is on the radio or it is popular, than the only logical conclusion is that Better than Ezra, 3rd Eye, etc. must now suck because none of their new stuff is on the radio and they haven't had a hit. If they were selling a million back then and now 100K then it must not be as good. Pretty stupid.

My point is that most of that stuff is just pure marketing. You can't deny that both Ezra and 3rd Eye lead singers are attractive to females. And, little girls grow up and their taste changes.

If you like trash then be proud of it. No problem. If you have a guilty pleasure realize that it is a guilty pleasure. Myself, I LOVE KC and the Sunshine Band and alot of disco. Reminds me of when I was a kid. But, I certainly recognize that most of it isn't very good.

I'm also a sucker for cheezy 70s style love songs (firefall, air supply, leo sayer, randy van warmer, etc). But, I recognize the cheesiness.

To conclude, and to tie into another post, you are certainly welcome to like Domino's or another brand of chain pizza, but you should recognize that it is pretty crappy compared to the real thing.

[jack's smirking revenge]

O wise one, please paint me a picture of "the real thing". You can't. There isn't one. The picture of the "real thing" changes from person to person. It's called subjectivity. I like Dominos. That doesn't make it any less of a real thing. I've had pizza at an Italian restaurant in Venice. I know its good and I know I like it. Dominos isn't the same thing, but that doesn't mean I can't like it because its not the same as Venetian pizza. Even suggesting that you know what the "real thing" is is arrogance because there is no "real thing". There's only you and me and we just disagree.

The Cure, Doves, Coldplay, Snow Patrol, Massive Attack and whatever bands you're into at the moment are no more relevant than 3d Blind or BTE. Know why? Because they are relevant to me or to us. That's the bottom line and is all that matters. I'm not about to call the stuff you listen to "trite" or "pablum" or "farts in the wind", and I could easily say that about any of the bands you've listed off and/or talked about, but won't. They're relevant to you and that's all that matters. Every band you listen to arrived in your CD player or on your Ipod through the miracle of marketing at some level--major label, indie or local rock. It doesn't matter. They all go through spin cycle. That's what I do for a living. Spinning so people spend their money and purchase the product I want them to. If you are a fan of any band, you've been spun by marketing. I honestly dont care if the bands I like were liked by teenyboppers or if the lead singer thought the quickest route to acting was through music. I got into BTE when I was a freshman in college. I hooked into their song "Good" and became a fan. Have been ever since, including through their ride when they got dumped by a major, put albums out on their own labels, and were just picked up again by a mid-level major. That's all irrelevant; what's relevant is that I'm a fan. That I connect with the music on some level. You're welcome to your opinion about the music that I listen to, but denograting it without valid reason or explanation is hollow.

And, in regards to your condescending education comment. Just because you're an expert on a genre, doesn't make me an idiot. I could talk circles around you in other genres. The genres I support do just fine without your dollars pouring in. The money I spend at local gigs keeps many bands alive and furthering their craft. I don't listen to radio. I don't watch TV or MTV or VH1. I don't read blogs. I research. I develop my interests through alternate channels. So, don't give me the "well, if they're on the radio, they must be popular" line. Not applicable here. With all of the bands you've mentioned in the last few posts, you are FAR more trendy than I am.

Standards are subjective also. They don't apply similarly across the board. That's like reading 200 reviews of the same CD on Amazon.com. Not everyone will have the same opinion. Not every reviewer is going to like a CD. There is no universally-liked CD. Therefore, there are no true standards. In order to have true standards, you have to have an accepted example of something that is the high end of a standard range and something of the low end. Your standard spectrum is not the same as mine. The standard spectrum for MTV's review of Slayer's "God Hates Us All" is not the same as Kerrang!'s standards for the album. MTV would trash it and give it one star, while Kerrang! could give it four. Is someone really wrong? No because...

Opinions are like a-holes.... I started this thread in the spirit of community, to gather and collect all of the different band interests. Not to judge. Not to criticize. To understand and educate us all. An attempt by me to research what's out there in the different genres. Your welcome to your opinion about the music we listen to, but drop the condescending attitude. I appreciate your list and am interested in checking out what's on it, but I don't think any of us are here to have our interests put down by a self-important music critic.

In the end, it comes down to respect. Calling someone elses interests "trite" or "pablum" or "worthless" (farts in the wind) isn't a show of respect. Yes, I've posted here a bit since April 3. But, in my eyes, this thread, that I started, is dead. Maybe this response was just 3 weeks in the making.

tyler

[Tyrone Bigguns]

O wise one, please paint me a picture of "the real thing". You can't. There isn't one. The picture of the "real thing" changes from person to person. It's called subjectivity. I like Dominos. That doesn't make it any less of a real thing. I've had pizza at an Italian restaurant in Venice. I know its good and I know I like it. Dominos isn't the same thing, but that doesn't mean I can't like it because its not the same as Venetian pizza. Even suggesting that you know what the "real thing" is is arrogance because there is no "real thing". There's only you and me and we just disagree.

The Cure, Doves, Coldplay, Snow Patrol, Massive Attack and whatever bands you're into at the moment are no more relevant than 3d Blind or BTE. Know why? Because they are relevant to me or to us. That's the bottom line and is all that matters. I'm not about to call the stuff you listen to "trite" or "pablum" or "farts in the wind", and I could easily say that about any of the bands you've listed off and/or talked about, but won't. They're relevant to you and that's all that matters. Every band you listen to arrived in your CD player or on your Ipod through the miracle of marketing at some level--major label, indie or local rock. It doesn't matter. They all go through spin cycle. That's what I do for a living. Spinning so people spend their money and purchase the product I want them to. If you are a fan of any band, you've been spun by marketing. I honestly dont care if the bands I like were liked by teenyboppers or if the lead singer thought the quickest route to acting was through music. I got into BTE when I was a freshman in college. I hooked into their song "Good" and became a fan. Have been ever since, including through their ride when they got dumped by a major, put albums out on their own labels, and were just picked up again by a mid-level major. That's all irrelevant; what's relevant is that I'm a fan. That I connect with the music on some level. You're welcome to your opinion about the music that I listen to, but denograting it without valid reason or explanation is hollow.

And, in regards to your condescending education comment. Just because you're an expert on a genre, doesn't make me an idiot. I could talk circles around you in other genres. The genres I support do just fine without your dollars pouring in. The money I spend at local gigs keeps many bands alive and furthering their craft. I don't listen to radio. I don't watch TV or MTV or VH1. I don't read blogs. I research. I develop my interests through alternate channels. So, don't give me the "well, if they're on the radio, they must be popular" line. Not applicable here. With all of the bands you've mentioned in the last few posts, you are FAR more trendy than I am.

Standards are subjective also. They don't apply similarly across the board. That's like reading 200 reviews of the same CD on Amazon.com. Not everyone will have the same opinion. Not every reviewer is going to like a CD. There is no universally-liked CD. Therefore, there are no true standards. In order to have true standards, you have to have an accepted example of something that is the high end of a standard range and something of the low end. Your standard spectrum is not the same as mine. The standard spectrum for MTV's review of Slayer's "God Hates Us All" is not the same as Kerrang!'s standards for the album. MTV would trash it and give it one star, while Kerrang! could give it four. Is someone really wrong? No because...

Opinions are like a-holes.... I started this thread in the spirit of community, to gather and collect all of the different band interests. Not to judge. Not to criticize. To understand and educate us all. An attempt by me to research what's out there in the different genres. Your welcome to your opinion about the music we listen to, but drop the condescending attitude. I appreciate your list and am interested in checking out what's on it, but I don't think any of us are here to have our interests put down by a self-important music critic.

In the end, it comes down to respect. Calling someone elses interests "trite" or "pablum" or "worthless" (farts in the wind) isn't a show of respect. Yes, I've posted here a bit since April 3. But, in my eyes, this thread, that I started, is dead. Maybe this response was just 3 weeks in the making.

tyler

Well, we just disagree. You believe everything is subjective. I couldn't disagree more. If everything is subjective, how do we recognize a masterpiece, be it art, music, literature.

That is a foolish argument to make. There is highbrow and lowbrow art. There are B movies. According to your argument, a velvet painting of elvis is no better or worse than a Picasso.

You change the argument from good vs. bad to if I like it than it is good. Fine, I said as much. But, the difference is that you then put it at the same level as every other piece of work. That is just ridiculous.

Real thing. Again, yes there are real things. You are welcome to enjoy Dominos. But, to claim that it is real pizza/authentic is just foolish. And, i would love to see you tell an italian that Olive Garden represents there culture. Like, love, enjoy what you want, but don't tell me its raining when you are pissing on me. That moral/ethical relativism argument is a loser.

Are you really going to look me in the eye and tell me that a Hustler layout is a piece of art at the same level as Renoir, just because I think it is. You are going to defend that?

If you play guitar how do you determine if you are in tune? I think it is subjective. LOL

As for relevance, I have no idea what you are driving at. I never claimed or stated anything regarding relevance. I have stated the exact opposite. If you like it, then enjoy it.

I brought up the "popular" not based upon you alone. You said others were driven off, and one of those people used that as a criteria. That person said if it was getting airplay then it was doing so because it was good. Therefore if it isn't then it must not be good. That is an asinine argument. I would never claim that. Bach, Brahms, Metallica, Slayer, Maiden never get airplay.

Idiot: I don't believe I ever used that term, nor did I imply that. Never said anyone was an idiot. I find it interesting that you are incapable of grasping a simple concept. I have freely said that I like certain bands/songs that most would laugh at. I don't think i'm an idiot for liking them. So, why would i think you or anyone else is. I accept the triteness, banality, insipidness and revel in it. But, i'm not going to say KC is in the same league as the Beatles or Stones. But, using your argument everything is subjective...so Brittney Spears is just as good of an artist as Jimi Hendrix. Puhlease.

Its like when I used to listen to Sisters of Mercy or the Mission Uk. People would criticize based on it being overblown, pompous and ridiculous...and that is exactly why I liked them. Of course its ridiculous.

I never called someone's interest trite. Your interest is music. I called a certain band trite. BTE, 3rd Eye, Tonic, etc...melodic post grunge is most certainly trite. Lyrically they most certainly are. Pablum means simple/insipid writing which, again certainly describes their lyics. Farts in the wind...most certainly are. 10 years from now the only people that will remember most of those bands will be you and a select few. Infact they are barely footnotes right now. Nirvana, PJ, Soundgarden, etc. will be remembered. No one is going to cry if Jenkins offs himself (ok, you and his mom).

Catchy, hooky, and maybe even heartfelt would also describe their tunes. Fair is fair.

Trendy: I don't have a problem with trendy. Anything that breaks ground and gathers a following is going to be labeled that. Metallica was trendy, the Dead were trendy, Nirvana was trendy.

What i find most hilarious is that you would quote, perhaps unknowingly from one of the most trite, insipid artists I can think of..Dave Mason. LOL. But, I love that song because of how cheezy it is.

As for condescending...geez, your post reeks of it. I'm not condescending. I'm stating my opinion. You dont' have to like, respect or even think twice about it. But, it is mine.

I'm more than willing to change my mind, open to considering different viewpoints. But, funny, you have yet to ever really address my criticism of those bands. You just talk about hurt feelings. So, sorry. Didn't realize you were so sensitive.

[Little Whiskey]

as seen in the packer thread, here is another of my favs. this is def. not a fart in the wind!! :lol:


http://www.homestead.com/deetunes/auctioneer.html

(give it a couple seconds to load)

[Little Whiskey]

as seen in the packer thread, here is another of my favs. this is def. not a fart in the wind!! :lol:


http://www.homestead.com/deetunes/auctioneer.html

(give it a couple seconds to load)

[Tyrone Bigguns]

as seen in the packer thread, here is another of my favs. this is def. not a fart in the wind!! :lol:


http://www.homestead.com/deetunes/auctioneer.html

(give it a couple seconds to load)

Don't have the plugins necessary at work. Wait till I get home. Looks promising though.