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Brando19
04-06-2008, 10:30 AM
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/2008/04/05/2008-04-05_michael_vick_playing_prison_football.html?page= 0

Michael Vick has a new job and is playing football again. The money is not quite the same and the records of the players are a bit different, too.

Falcons owner Arthur Blank has been communicating by letter with Vick, who is at the United States Penitentiary in Leavenworth, Kan., incarcerated at the facility's minimum security satellite prison camp.

Blank told the Daily News that Vick writes that he is washing pots and pans for 12 cents an hour. He was sentenced to 23 months in December after pleading guilty to federal dogfighting charges.

And in a scene straight out of the Longest Yard, Blank says Vick is playing football at Leavenworth. That's one way to pass his time and keep his arm loose. He's likely the first player picked when the inmates are choosing up sides or the guards are choosing up sides for them. Vick's sprinter speed surely comes in handy just in case a dog-loving inmate thinks it's cool to sack an NFL quarterback and break his shoulder.

"He is staying in shape,” Blank told The News. "Apparently, there was a prison football team and he played quarterback for both sides.”

That's only fair.

Blank, a Flushing product, says Vick wrote to him first and they've now opened a dialogue by mail. He also says that Kevin Winston, the Falcons' senior director of player development, has visited Vick several times in prison. Blank says he has no plans to visit Vick.

"He's written me a couple of times,” Blank said. "I've written him back, he's stayed in touch.”

Vick's life has taken quite a nosedive from his days as a superstar quarterback. He can be comforted financially by Judge David Doty's ruling in Minneapolis in February that he can keep $16.25 million of the $20 million in bonus money the Falcons were trying to recoup. The NFL is challenging the ruling.

Even if Blank feels betrayed by Vick, whom he signed to a 10-year, $130 million contract in 2004, he still clearly has a place in his heart for him, if not on his team.

"I just try to be supportive and as understanding as I can be,” Blank said. "He talks about the process he is going through and what he has learned, the lessons of life, how he's going to come out a different person. He's sorry he has affected so many people in a negative way — the league, our club, our fans. He feels awful about that. The letters sound quite sincere to me. From a mental standpoint, he sounds good.”

What does he write to Vick?

"I told Michael I'll do whatever I can to be helpful to him personally. Nothing to do with the Atlanta Falcons,” Blank said. "He's a human being and I would like to reach out and if I can be productive to him in some way, I would be happy to do that."


"I'd love to see him playing again in the NFL. I would love to see him back in society where he can make a difference and go back to some of these communities and talk to some of these young folks about the impact of choices — choices he personally made about people he was with and choices he made about his own actions. That would be important.”

It will take an owner secure in his own community to sign Vick, knowing there will likely be protests and a public backlash.

It's inconceivable Vick could ever play for the Falcons again. They are moving on. There's a good chance they will make Boston College quarterback Matt Ryan the new face of the franchise and select him with the third pick on April 26.
When asked if he could ever see Vick returning to the Falcons, Blank said, "I don't know that. Right now, he's in a federal penitentiary.”

Blank said Winston told him Vick is "doing well.” Asked if the inmates were giving Vick a hard time, Blank said, "I have no idea. He seems to be okay.”

Blank, who is starting all over with a new coach (Mike Smith), general manager (Thomas Dimitroff) and surely a new quarterback, says he's excited about the team's future. After Vick set his franchise back years, Blank had every reason to throw Vick's letters in the garbage. Instead, he's been glad to hear from him.

"He doesn't want anything,” he said. "He's just talking about his journey, his life and where he is. I was happy to respond to him and give him my thoughts on that. I do wish him the best.”

Vick's trial on state charges in Virginia was pushed back to June 27. According to the Federal Bureau of Prisons, his projected release date on the federal case, which includes the potential to have his sentence reduced by 90 days for good conduct, is July 20, 2009. That's right before training camps open.

He has been indefinitely suspended by Roger Goodell, who told The News last week he will meet with Vick before determining any further suspension once the quarterback gets out of prison. Goodell likely will suspend him for one season after he is released. If Vick is out next July 20 and Goodell doesn't suspend him for the '09 season and if he doesn't get further jail time — he faces two state felony counts each punishable by up to five years in the Virginia case — then he could be back on the field for the '09 season. And he will be only 29.

But for now, it's pots and pans and playing quarterback for two prison teams in the same game with teammates who have criminal records, not touchdown records. Vick has traded in his No. 7 jersey for a Federal Bureau of Prisons register number with eight digits.

Gunakor
04-06-2008, 10:43 AM
There is no way, not a snowballs chance in hell, that his guy gets back into the league. Even if Goodell reinstates him, which is a longshot in itself, I can't think of a GM in the league that would be willing to deal with the PR nightmare that signing Michael Vick would create. Even if Vick does everything right while in prison, even if he does everything right AFTER prison, the vast majority of people won't forget what he did BEFORE prison. They won't forgive him for that. Not in a dog-loving country like the United States.

On a seperate matter, how on earth did a court of law come to the conclusion that Vick should be allowed to keep 75% of his signing bonus? I'd appeal that one too... That's just not right.

Brandon494
04-06-2008, 11:07 AM
There is no way, not a snowballs chance in hell, that his guy gets back into the league. Even if Goodell reinstates him, which is a longshot in itself, I can't think of a GM in the league that would be willing to deal with the PR nightmare that signing Michael Vick would create. Even if Vick does everything right while in prison, even if he does everything right AFTER prison, the vast majority of people won't forget what he did BEFORE prison. They won't forgive him for that. Not in a dog-loving country like the United States.

On a seperate matter, how on earth did a court of law come to the conclusion that Vick should be allowed to keep 75% of his signing bonus? I'd appeal that one too... That's just not right.

You have to be shitting me? You know damn well a team will sign Vick whenever he is reinstated into the NFL. Everyone deserves a second chance.

Gunakor
04-06-2008, 11:33 AM
There are a few teams I suppose that would take a chance on talented players with bad reputations, but I don't think those teams are in need of a QB or will be in a couple years. Oakland, Dallas, and New England all seem to be willing to give second chances to problematic players, but I don't see Russell, Romo or Brady going anywhere anytime soon. I don't think there are a whole lot of teams that would be willing to give him that chance however.

Remember also, Vick would have been out of the league for 2 seasons. No practices, no film study, no team workouts, nothing. I'm not sure what value he'll have when and if Goodell reinstates him.

RashanGary
04-06-2008, 11:35 AM
I'd give him a second change if it was a low risk signing. I'd sign him as a 3rd down back if he was still in shape and came at the veteran minimum if I ddin't already have established players in front of him.

DonHutson
04-06-2008, 11:48 AM
He's completing 47.9% of his passes at Leavenworth, but the warden likes his potential.

Brandon494
04-06-2008, 11:48 AM
No one is saying a team will sign him to be their starting QB. He could be a backup QB, WR, or return specialist. No way will he be a RB in the NFL.

Pacopete4
04-06-2008, 12:49 PM
i would love to see his stats haha

Guiness
04-06-2008, 03:53 PM
I think someone will give him a shot if he continues to keep his nose clean. And I don't think it will be a PR nightmare, but Vick will have to be willing to get in front of a camera, look all humble, and say he's sorry, and that he's been volunteering at SPCA shelters since his release.

I can easily see this being spun into a feel good story a couple of years from now.

MadtownPacker
04-06-2008, 05:25 PM
He's completing 47.9% of his passes at Leavenworth, but the warden likes his potential.Hahahaha!! Burn!! :lol:

Jimx29
04-06-2008, 07:26 PM
Wonder who his tight ends are

Kiwon
04-06-2008, 07:38 PM
I'd like to see the video of him scrubbing pots and pans. It's easier to imagine him in prison as Ron Mexico smoking pot.

The warden ought to make him throw frisbees to dogs as well. Quality bonding time.

Finally, he will be in pro football again. He won't do the whole 23 months and if he's in shape and can still sell tickets then he will be hired. Ticket sales trumps morals to a struggling owner.

He has a solid fan base. Like O.J., most blacks didn't think he should have gone to jail in the first place so his renewed street cred is just that much better. A little love from President Obama and you'll be surprised how fast his stock will rise.

falco
04-06-2008, 07:48 PM
I'd like to see the video of him scrubbing pots and pans. It's easier to imagine him in prison as Ron Mexico smoking pot.

The warden ought to make him throw frisbees to dogs as well. Quality bonding time.

Finally, he will be in pro football again. He won't do the whole 23 months and if he's in shape and can still sell tickets then he will be hired. Ticket sales trumps morals to a struggling owner.

He has a solid fan base. Like O.J., most blacks didn't think he should have gone to jail in the first place so his renewed street cred is just that much better. A little love from President Obama and you'll be surprised how fast his stock will rise.

what an incredibly enlightening statement...thank you for sharing with us.

Brandon494
04-06-2008, 07:51 PM
I'd like to see the video of him scrubbing pots and pans. It's easier to imagine him in prison as Ron Mexico smoking pot.

The warden ought to make him throw frisbees to dogs as well. Quality bonding time.

Finally, he will be in pro football again. He won't do the whole 23 months and if he's in shape and can still sell tickets then he will be hired. Ticket sales trumps morals to a struggling owner.

He has a solid fan base. Like O.J., most blacks didn't think he should have gone to jail in the first place so his renewed street cred is just that much better. A little love from President Obama and you'll be surprised how fast his stock will rise.

Wow. Please dont be that ignorant.

Brando19
04-06-2008, 07:53 PM
I'd like to see the video of him scrubbing pots and pans. It's easier to imagine him in prison as Ron Mexico smoking pot.

The warden ought to make him throw frisbees to dogs as well. Quality bonding time.

Finally, he will be in pro football again. He won't do the whole 23 months and if he's in shape and can still sell tickets then he will be hired. Ticket sales trumps morals to a struggling owner.

He has a solid fan base. Like O.J., most blacks didn't think he should have gone to jail in the first place so his renewed street cred is just that much better. A little love from President Obama and you'll be surprised how fast his stock will rise.

Can't believe you wrote that. You're an idiot.

Kiwon
04-06-2008, 08:21 PM
Wow. Please dont be that ignorant.

Wow, three negative reactions.

Okay, enlighten me. Which opinion is off-base in your eyes, Brando, Brandon, and falco?

DonHutson
04-06-2008, 10:22 PM
Wonder who his tight ends are

Whoever dropped the soap.

MadtownPacker
04-07-2008, 02:48 AM
Wonder who his tight ends are

Whoever dropped the soap.Doubt those are the tight ends, most likely the wide receivers. :lol:

run pMc
04-07-2008, 09:47 AM
Asked if the inmates were giving Vick a hard time, Blank said, "I have no idea. He seems to be okay.”


LOL


Sorry, my innuendo-meter starting going off when I read that.

DonHutson
04-07-2008, 01:22 PM
Wonder who his tight ends are

Whoever dropped the soap.Doubt those are the tight ends, most likely the wide receivers. :lol:

Naked bootleg... spread formation... too... many... jokes...

MadtownPacker
04-07-2008, 01:52 PM
Wonder who his tight ends are

Whoever dropped the soap.Doubt those are the tight ends, most likely the wide receivers. :lol:

Naked bootleg... spread formation... too... many... jokes...Guessing vick dont like them to go deep. :lol:

DonHutson
04-07-2008, 02:22 PM
Wonder who his tight ends are

Whoever dropped the soap.Doubt those are the tight ends, most likely the wide receivers. :lol:

Naked bootleg... spread formation... too... many... jokes...Guessing vick dont like them to go deep. :lol:

No, he'd prefer to grind it out on the ground.

Brando19
04-07-2008, 04:38 PM
Wow. Please dont be that ignorant.

Wow, three negative reactions.

Okay, enlighten me. Which opinion is off-base in your eyes, Brando, Brandon, and falco?

The racist one.

falco
04-07-2008, 06:22 PM
Wow. Please dont be that ignorant.

Wow, three negative reactions.

Okay, enlighten me. Which opinion is off-base in your eyes, Brando, Brandon, and falco?

The racist one.

come on Brando, its Kiwon you're talking about....you're definitely going to have to be more specific...

Kiwon
04-08-2008, 04:39 AM
Wow. Please dont be that ignorant.

Wow, three negative reactions.

Okay, enlighten me. Which opinion is off-base in your eyes, Brando, Brandon, and falco?

The racist one.

come on Brando, its Kiwon you're talking about....you're definitely going to have to be more specific...

Yeah, which non-existent racist comment caused offense?

Guiness
04-08-2008, 04:48 AM
Which coment? As you as you had to audacity to state he was black.

See, Kiwon, you're supposed to ignore that race and colour doesn't exist. That tendencies among races don't exist. That blacks didn't view the OJ trial differently. That jews didn't predominantly spend their money with other jews in pre-WWII Germany.

:roll: :roll:

GrnBay007
04-08-2008, 11:05 PM
Vick's prison football play in doubt
Leavenworth official says Falcons QB isn't on team

By MARK DAVIS
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 04/07/08

The odds that Michael Vick recently played football for a federal prison team are about as good as the chances of escaping Alcatraz, federal prisons officials say.

Sure, the former Atlanta Falcons quarterback might have tossed the ball around with a few inmates at the Leavenworth Federal Penitentiary Camp, officials said Monday. But he didn't become an inmate at the Kansas facility in time to suit up for the prison football season.

Their assessment contradicts published reports that Vick played for teams in Kansas, staying in shape by tossing the ball.

Vick, convicted of federal dogfighting charges in December, arrived at the minimum-security prison in January, said Tracy Billingsley, a spokesperson for the U.S. Bureau of Prisons. He was too late for the football season, which includes only a handful of games.

"They only play [football] in the fall," she said.

Falcons owner Arthur Blank remembered things differently. Blank said he'd exchanged letters with his onetime star, who is serving a 23-month sentence. In an interview with the New York Daily News, Blank said Vick is " staying in shape" the best way he knows how - by playing prison football.

Vick "played quarterback for both sides," Blank said.

Well? Did he or didn't he?

Through a spokesperson, Blank declined an AJC interview request.

A spokesman at Leavenworth's U.S. Penitentiary, adjacent to the minimum-security facility where Vick is incarcerated, sounded incredulous. "I don't know what you're talking about," spokesman Kevin Johnson said.

Billingsley offered a possible explanation. "It's not unheard-of for inmates to toss around a football," she said. "But there just are no games until the fall."

The games aren't the smash-face affairs to which Vick is accustomed, either. "Our institutes only play flag football," she said.

If Vick wants to play football, that's fine, said John Goodwin, who oversees animal-fighting issues for the Humane Society of the United States. The organization called for Vick's incarceration when it learned he had pleaded guilty to dogfighting.

"We'd much rather see a convicted dog-fighter playing in a prison yard than in front of tens of thousands of fans," he said.

Vick isn't likely to play in front of thousands for at least a couple of years, if ever. His projected release date is July 20, 2009.

twoseven
04-09-2008, 05:17 AM
Wonder who his tight ends are

Whoever dropped the soap.Doubt those are the tight ends, most likely the wide receivers. :lol:

Naked bootleg... spread formation... too... many... jokes...Guessing vick dont like them to go deep. :lol:

No, he'd prefer to grind it out on the ground.
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DonHutson
04-09-2008, 12:44 PM
Wonder who his tight ends are

Whoever dropped the soap.Doubt those are the tight ends, most likely the wide receivers. :lol:

Naked bootleg... spread formation... too... many... jokes...Guessing vick dont like them to go deep. :lol:

No, he'd prefer to grind it out on the ground.
..got your new avatar right here..
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Take my old avatar... please!

the_idle_threat
04-09-2008, 01:48 PM
Vick's prison football play in doubt
Leavenworth official says Falcons QB isn't on team

By MARK DAVIS
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 04/07/08

The odds that Michael Vick recently played football for a federal prison team are about as good as the chances of escaping Alcatraz, federal prisons officials say.

Sure, the former Atlanta Falcons quarterback might have tossed the ball around with a few inmates at the Leavenworth Federal Penitentiary Camp, officials said Monday. But he didn't become an inmate at the Kansas facility in time to suit up for the prison football season.

Their assessment contradicts published reports that Vick played for teams in Kansas, staying in shape by tossing the ball.

Vick, convicted of federal dogfighting charges in December, arrived at the minimum-security prison in January, said Tracy Billingsley, a spokesperson for the U.S. Bureau of Prisons. He was too late for the football season, which includes only a handful of games.

"They only play [football] in the fall," she said.

Falcons owner Arthur Blank remembered things differently. Blank said he'd exchanged letters with his onetime star, who is serving a 23-month sentence. In an interview with the New York Daily News, Blank said Vick is " staying in shape" the best way he knows how - by playing prison football.

Vick "played quarterback for both sides," Blank said.

Well? Did he or didn't he?

Through a spokesperson, Blank declined an AJC interview request.

A spokesman at Leavenworth's U.S. Penitentiary, adjacent to the minimum-security facility where Vick is incarcerated, sounded incredulous. "I don't know what you're talking about," spokesman Kevin Johnson said.

Billingsley offered a possible explanation. "It's not unheard-of for inmates to toss around a football," she said. "But there just are no games until the fall."

The games aren't the smash-face affairs to which Vick is accustomed, either. "Our institutes only play flag football," she said.

If Vick wants to play football, that's fine, said John Goodwin, who oversees animal-fighting issues for the Humane Society of the United States. The organization called for Vick's incarceration when it learned he had pleaded guilty to dogfighting.

"We'd much rather see a convicted dog-fighter playing in a prison yard than in front of tens of thousands of fans," he said.

Vick isn't likely to play in front of thousands for at least a couple of years, if ever. His projected release date is July 20, 2009.

I wonder if Vick told Blank they're makin him "play both ways" and something got lost in translation ... :twisted: