Male-Female Relationships

[Kiwon]

I just read two news stories.

First story:

A pair of Ohio state female employees, two 26-year olds, who had accused their supervisor of "making unwanted advances and vulgar remarks" put him in hot water and led to other investigations that revealed other employees' misdeeds, including the admission by the state's Attorney General that he had been playing "Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky" with a co-worker as well.

In total, three state employees, all in the AG's office were fired or forced out and the AG himself, whose 2006 campaign slogan was "Returning Trust To Ohio," will be next. (All Dems, HH, "Culture of Corruption, you know.)

All this because a horny supervisor verbally sexually harassed female employees.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-05-02-ag-scandal_N.htm

Next story:

Colleges are allowing coed dorm rooms

http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/2008-05-02-coed-rooms_N.htm

So I'm trying to get this straight, a male can have a female roommate, watch her dress and undress, joke around, whatever, but then years later if they happen to end up in the same office he could be sued and fired for making the same comments that he used to make when they shared a dorm room together?

Poor males, they live in a world of mixed messages.

[MJZiggy]

The problem in your logic is that the first story is about unwanted advances and extramarital affairs after promising to "return trust" to your publicly held office and the second is about allowing students to live platonically with whomever they choose. I don't see the correlation.

[Kiwon]

The problem in your logic is that the first story is about unwanted advances and extramarital affairs after promising to "return trust" to your publicly held office and the second is about allowing students to live platonically with whomever they choose. I don't see the correlation.

MJZ, objectively speaking, I'm trying to understand what possible benefit there really is with having a roommate of a different sex in a cramped university dorm when situations like in Ohio are bound to happen between men and women.

So you think "making unwanted advances and vulgar remarks," either real or perceived, would not take place in a dorm room between 20 year-olds?

The logic problem is with universities, IMHO.

A. Try looking at it from a male's perspective. Don't you feel sad for the poor mindless creature that is confused over what behavior is appropriate and inappropriate with women?

B. What if former roommates did end up in the same office? The same "vulgar" remarks they used to joke about suddenly become grounds for someone to be fired. You don't find that confusing?

[oregonpackfan]

One big problem, among many, about boyfriend-girlfriend sharing a dorm room together is that all too often relationships break up. That seems to happen quite frequently in the late teen age years. Then you have the challenge of which one stays and which one moves out.

[Freak Out]

Sexual desire recognizes no party line.

[Kiwon]

Sexual desire recognizes no party line.

Not exactly true. Gays, lesbians, and transwhatever definitely prefer the Dems to the GOP.

I get your basic though. I was just reminding HH that he overdid the liberal talking point about the Republicans' "Culture of Corruption" awhile back.

It is irritating, however, that most news outlets, print or broadcast, are quick to mention the party affiliation if a Republican is involved and omit that fact when a Democrat is the subject. Either they should always use it or always ignore it.

Their bias is annoying.

[Deputy Nutz]

Sexual desire recognizes no party line.

Not exactly true. Gays, lesbians, and transwhatever definitely prefer the Dems to the GOP.

I get your basic though. I was just reminding HH that he overdid the liberal talking point about the Republicans' "Culture of Corruption" awhile back.

It is irritating, however, that most news outlets, print or broadcast, are quick to mention the party affiliation if a Republican is involved and omit that fact when a Democrat is the subject. Either they should always use it or always ignore it.

Their bias is annoying.

True, but lets not forget the republican part who hide their desires in the closet and then get busted in an airport restroom. Gee thats not embarrassing.

[Deputy Nutz]

I just read two news stories.

First story:

A pair of Ohio state female employees, two 26-year olds, who had accused their supervisor of "making unwanted advances and vulgar remarks" put him in hot water and led to other investigations that revealed other employees' misdeeds, including the admission by the state's Attorney General that he had been playing "Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky" with a co-worker as well.

In total, three state employees, all in the AG's office were fired or forced out and the AG himself, whose 2006 campaign slogan was "Returning Trust To Ohio," will be next. (All Dems, HH, "Culture of Corruption, you know.)

All this because a horny supervisor verbally sexually harassed female employees.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-05-02-ag-scandal_N.htm

Next story:

Colleges are allowing coed dorm rooms

http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/2008-05-02-coed-rooms_N.htm

So I'm trying to get this straight, a male can have a female roommate, watch her dress and undress, joke around, whatever, but then years later if they happen to end up in the same office he could be sued and fired for making the same comments that he used to make when they shared a dorm room together?

Poor males, they live in a world of mixed messages.

Why compare the two? people are responsible for their own actions. The two have nothing to do with each other, just ridiculous propaganda on your part.

[Bretsky]

Sexual desire recognizes no party line.

Not exactly true. Gays, lesbians, and transwhatever definitely prefer the Dems to the GOP.

I get your basic though. I was just reminding HH that he overdid the liberal talking point about the Republicans' "Culture of Corruption" awhile back.

It is irritating, however, that most news outlets, print or broadcast, are quick to mention the party affiliation if a Republican is involved and omit that fact when a Democrat is the subject. Either they should always use it or always ignore it.

Their bias is annoying.

Lesbians are cool

Even if they all do like Hillary :lol:

[Harlan Huckleby]

Sexual desire recognizes no party line.
http://www.salem-news.com/stimg/september12007/perino.jpg

Dana Perino is sexy in an uptight republican sort of way. Something excitingly perverse at the thought of unmasking her animal side. But its got to be hell to live with her.

[GrnBay007]

A. Try looking at it from a male's perspective. Don't you feel sad for the poor mindless creature that is confused over what behavior is appropriate and inappropriate with women?



???

Then the poor mindless creature that is confused must suffer whatever consequences come from his behavior.

[oregonpackfan]

Sexual desire recognizes no party line.
http://www.salem-news.com/stimg/september12007/perino.jpg

Dana Perino is sexy in an uptight republican sort of way. Something excitingly perverse at the thought of unmasking her animal side. But its got to be hell to live with her.

Silly Harlan!

Don't you know that Republicans never have any animal side to them when it comes to sex? They just hire illegals at minimum wage to have sex for them. :)

[MJZiggy]

So this is as good a place to put this as any...

&$%&@#$ &^*%#$

I finally find a guy who might be worth dating and it turns out he's a BEARS fan???? Why me?

[Kiwon]

I just read two news stories.

First story:

A pair of Ohio state female employees, two 26-year olds, who had accused their supervisor of "making unwanted advances and vulgar remarks" put him in hot water and led to other investigations that revealed other employees' misdeeds, including the admission by the state's Attorney General that he had been playing "Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky" with a co-worker as well.

In total, three state employees, all in the AG's office were fired or forced out and the AG himself, whose 2006 campaign slogan was "Returning Trust To Ohio," will be next. (All Dems, HH, "Culture of Corruption, you know.)

All this because a horny supervisor verbally sexually harassed female employees.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-05-02-ag-scandal_N.htm

Next story:

Colleges are allowing coed dorm rooms

http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/2008-05-02-coed-rooms_N.htm

So I'm trying to get this straight, a male can have a female roommate, watch her dress and undress, joke around, whatever, but then years later if they happen to end up in the same office he could be sued and fired for making the same comments that he used to make when they shared a dorm room together?

Poor males, they live in a world of mixed messages.

Why compare the two? people are responsible for their own actions. The two have nothing to do with each other, just ridiculous propaganda on your part.

Why not compare the two?

Okay, you outed me. I'm a NK agent and we won't rest until you American pigs pay for your atrocities. Feel the influence of my propaganda campaign. Your mind is now in my power.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e7/Korea_%28179%29.jpg

[Tyrone Bigguns]

I just read two news stories.

First story:

A pair of Ohio state female employees, two 26-year olds, who had accused their supervisor of "making unwanted advances and vulgar remarks" put him in hot water and led to other investigations that revealed other employees' misdeeds, including the admission by the state's Attorney General that he had been playing "Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky" with a co-worker as well.

In total, three state employees, all in the AG's office were fired or forced out and the AG himself, whose 2006 campaign slogan was "Returning Trust To Ohio," will be next. (All Dems, HH, "Culture of Corruption, you know.)

All this because a horny supervisor verbally sexually harassed female employees.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-05-02-ag-scandal_N.htm

Next story:

Colleges are allowing coed dorm rooms

http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/2008-05-02-coed-rooms_N.htm

So I'm trying to get this straight, a male can have a female roommate, watch her dress and undress, joke around, whatever, but then years later if they happen to end up in the same office he could be sued and fired for making the same comments that he used to make when they shared a dorm room together?

Poor males, they live in a world of mixed messages.

Why compare the two? people are responsible for their own actions. The two have nothing to do with each other, just ridiculous propaganda on your part.

Why not compare the two?

Okay, you outed me. I'm a NK agent and we won't rest until you American pigs pay for your atrocities. Feel the influence of my propaganda campaign. Your mind is now in my power.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e7/Korea_%28179%29.jpg

As usual you try and compare two situations yet leave out the crucial distinction.

Two college roommates, be it same sex or opposite genders do not have a relationship in which one is noted as being the other's "superior."

If you can't see the distinction or realize the precarious position one is placed by having unwanted advances made by your boss then you are even more clueless than i previously suspected.

[MJZiggy]

The other distinction is that between two college kids, the joking is consensual and mutual. In this office situation they were not.

[Kiwon]

As usual you try and compare two situations yet leave out the crucial distinction.

Two college roommates, be it same sex or opposite genders do not have a relationship in which one is noted as being the other's "superior."

If you can't see the distinction or realize the precarious position one is placed by having unwanted advances made by your boss then you are even more clueless than i previously suspected.

I thought you guys did away with that distinction when Bill Clinton turned the word "Lewinsky" into a verb. So you're okay with his impeachment now. Aren't you the capricious one!

[Tyrone Bigguns]

As usual you try and compare two situations yet leave out the crucial distinction.

Two college roommates, be it same sex or opposite genders do not have a relationship in which one is noted as being the other's "superior."

If you can't see the distinction or realize the precarious position one is placed by having unwanted advances made by your boss then you are even more clueless than i previously suspected.

I thought you guys did away with that distinction when Bill Clinton turned the word "Lewinsky" into a verb. So you're okay with his impeachment now. Aren't you the capricious one!

You leaps of logic are astounding. 1) You have made an assumption about which "guys" i'm with. 2) That sexual harassment was part of the clinton impeachment. 3) That i was against the impeachment, but would be ok with it now. Wrong. I don't think that people's sex lives and questions about it should be grounds for impeachment. I leave impeachment for serious crimes...you know, like B&E...or prevaricating war under false pretenses.

Try to follow along...the impeachment had nothing to do with sexual harassment.

I know it is tough for your simplistic, black and white mind, but there is little linkage between your comparison and clinton. But, leave it up to you "guys"..can't go a week without revisiting clinton.

Lastly, please don't use words you clearly don't understand. :idea: If, after rougly 10 years, i changed my opionion on Clinton that wouldn't be capricious..you dolt. Capricious is SUDDEN, UNPREDICTABLE CHANGE. Or the tendency to change one's mind without seeming obvious or apparent reasons.

Neither of which fits this example.

Capricious would be if tonite i suddenly thought you were smart. :lol:

GAME, SET, MATCH.

[Kiwon]

TB, nobody's as smart as you. :worship:

Regale us once more with the history of transsexualism. You’ve got that memorized, right? Mad inadvertently deleted that thread.

Please enlighten us again why gender isn’t determined by biology. It must be rewarding work setting free those girls trapped in boys’ bodies.

Finally, let me say that it’s an honor to be insulted by a great mind like yours. I'm not worthy of your disdain. :cry:

[falco]

wow, another retarded thread by Kiwon. surprise, surprise.

[GBRulz]

wow, another retarded thread by Kiwon. surprise, surprise.

What is with all the freaken male PMS going on here lately? :bang:

[Kiwon]

wow, another retarded thread by Kiwon. surprise, surprise.

What is with all the freaken male PMS going on here lately? :bang:

Don't worry GBRulz, as soon as the bloating and cramps go away falco will return to normal.

[woodbuck27]

http://www.eeoc.gov/types/sexual_harassment.html

Sexual Harassment

Sexual harassment is a form of sex discrimination that violates Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Title VII applies to employers with 15 or more employees, including state and local governments. It also applies to employment agencies and to labor organizations, as well as to the federal government.

Unwelcome sexual advances, requests for sexual favors, and other verbal or physical conduct of a sexual nature constitute sexual harassment when this conduct explicitly or implicitly affects an individual's employment, unreasonably interferes with an individual's work performance, or creates an intimidating, hostile, or offensive work environment.

Sexual harassment can occur in a variety of circumstances, including but not limited to the following:

The victim as well as the harasser may be a woman or a man. The victim does not have to be of the opposite sex.

The harasser can be the victim's supervisor, an agent of the employer, a supervisor in another area, a co-worker, or a non-employee.

The victim does not have to be the person harassed but could be anyone affected by the offensive conduct.

Unlawful sexual harassment may occur without economic injury to or discharge of the victim.

The harasser's conduct must be unwelcome.

It is helpful for the victim to inform the harasser directly that the conduct is unwelcome and must stop. The victim should use any employer complaint mechanism or grievance system available.

Go to the abone LINK for more on this topic.

[Zool]

What I dont get is why you post something specifically to get a reaction, then are surprised and pretty much offended by the reaction. I could probably tell you the reactions of most people on here and I assume you could too.

Ohhhhhh wait.....nm

[woodbuck27]

wow, another retarded thread by Kiwon. surprise, surprise.

What is with all the freaken male PMS going on here lately? :bang:

Two suggestions GBRulz:

1. The " Alpha Male " Syndrome.

2. The " Alpha Male " Syndrome.

It's too funny to pathetic. :D

[the_idle_threat]

So I'm trying to get this straight, a male can have a female roommate, watch her dress and undress, joke around, whatever, but then years later if they happen to end up in the same office he could be sued and fired for making the same comments that he used to make when they shared a dorm room together?


Doesn't seem like a tough distinction to make, K. In a professional atmosphere, you have to dress differently, speak differently (i.e. avoid cuss words) and treat people differently (i.e. leave sex out of it) than you do when you're "off duty", whether it's at home in a dorm room or at home anywhere else. If a husband and wife work in the same office, they're not allowed to fuck at work.

[GrnBay007]

In a professional atmosphere, you have to dress differently, speak differently (i.e. avoid cuss words) and treat people differently (i.e. leave sex out of it) than you do when you're "off duty", whether it's at home in a dorm room or at home anywhere else.

Wonder if that's true for this forum. Do people act and talk differently then they do in person? :P :wink:

[Kiwon]

So I'm trying to get this straight, a male can have a female roommate, watch her dress and undress, joke around, whatever, but then years later if they happen to end up in the same office he could be sued and fired for making the same comments that he used to make when they shared a dorm room together?


Doesn't seem like a tough distinction to make, K. In a professional atmosphere, you have to dress differently, speak differently (i.e. avoid cuss words) and treat people differently (i.e. leave sex out of it) than you do when you're "off duty", whether it's at home in a dorm room or at home anywhere else. If a husband and wife work in the same office, they're not allowed to fuck at work.

Unless it done for the porn site - www.forbiddencopulation.com

[the_idle_threat]

So I'm trying to get this straight, a male can have a female roommate, watch her dress and undress, joke around, whatever, but then years later if they happen to end up in the same office he could be sued and fired for making the same comments that he used to make when they shared a dorm room together?


Doesn't seem like a tough distinction to make, K. In a professional atmosphere, you have to dress differently, speak differently (i.e. avoid cuss words) and treat people differently (i.e. leave sex out of it) than you do when you're "off duty", whether it's at home in a dorm room or at home anywhere else. If a husband and wife work in the same office, they're not allowed to fuck at work.

Unless it done for the porn site - www.forbiddencopulation.com

True that people sometimes do it anyway :twisted: , but of course you also notice the word "forbidden" right in the name of the site. :idea:

[Kiwon]

What I dont get is why you post something specifically to get a reaction, then are surprised and pretty much offended by the reaction. I could probably tell you the reactions of most people on here and I assume you could too.

Ohhhhhh wait.....nm

Commish, I guess I've heard too much Mark Rudov lately. - http://thenononsenseman.com

I'm looking at it from a sociological perspective. How can the poor hapless male know when to act like a boar and when not to and keep his butt out of jail?

Universities permitting co-ed dorm rooms and allowing a male student to experience his wildest adolescent fantasies don't really help him to know his boundaries.

The equal roommate stuff is garbage. Women always have dominance because the average 20-year old male allows her to. The appendage between his legs is constantly waging war with the good judgment residing in the deep recesses of his brain.

Ladies, men are victims and you know it. You are being insensitive.

:D :cry: :D :cry: (I'm at a vulnerable time in my life right now. Don't make fun of me.)

[Deputy Nutz]

What I dont get is why you post something specifically to get a reaction, then are surprised and pretty much offended by the reaction. I could probably tell you the reactions of most people on here and I assume you could too.

Ohhhhhh wait.....nm

Commish, I guess I've heard too much Mark Rudov lately. - http://thenononsenseman.com

I'm looking at it from a sociological perspective. How can the poor hapless male know when to act like a boar and when not to and keep his butt out of jail?

Universities permitting co-ed dorm rooms and allowing a male student to experience his wildest adolescent fantasies don't really help him to know his boundaries.

The equal roommate stuff is garbage. Women always have dominance because the average 20-year old male allows her to. The appendage between his legs is constantly waging war with the good judgment residing in the deep recesses of his brain.

Ladies, men are victims and you know it. You are being insensitive.

:D :cry: :D :cry: (I'm at a vulnerable time in my life right now. Don't make fun of me.)

Are you obviously that bent that you are going to hold universities responsible for an adult male not knowing the difference between his fantasies and expected social boundries? Because I have penis I can't be counted on for making good decisions and using good judgement?

[Tarlam!]

The Institution of Marriage

When a man steals your wife, there is no better revenge than to let him keep her .

Sacha Guitry

After marriage, husband and wife become two sides of a coin; they just can't face each other, but still they stay together.

Hemant Joshi

By all means marry. If you get a good wife, you'll be happy. If you get a bad one, you'll become a philosopher.

Socrates

Woman inspires us to great things, and prevents us from achieving them.

Dumas

The great question... which I have not been able to answer... is, 'What does a woman want?

Sigmund Freud

I had some words with my wife, and she had some paragraphs with me.

Anonymous

'Some people ask the secret of our long marriage. We take time to go to a restaurant twice a week. A little candlelight, dinner, soft music and dancing. She goes Tuesdays, I go Fridays.'

Henny Youngman

'I don't worry about terrorism. I was married for two years.'

Sam Kinison

'There's a way of transferring funds that is even faster than electronic banking. It's called marriage.'

James Holt McGavran

'I've had bad luck with both my wives. The first one left me, and the second one didn't.'

Patrick Murray

Two secrets to keep your marriage brimming
1. Whenever you're wrong, admit it,
2. Whenever you're right, shut up.

Nash

The most effective way to remember your wife's birthday is to forget it once...

Anonymous

You know what I did before I married? Anything I wanted to.

Henny Youngman

My wife and I were happy for twenty years. Then we met.

Rodney Dangerfield

A good wife always forgives her husband when she's wrong.

Milton Berle

Marriage is the only war where one sleeps with the enemy.

Anonymous

A man inserted an 'ad' in the classifieds: 'Wife wanted'. Next day he received a hundred letters. They all said the same thing: 'You can have mine.'

Anonymous

First Guy (proudly): 'My wife's an angel!'
Second Guy: 'You're lucky, mine's still alive.'

8-) 8-) 8-)

[Tyrone Bigguns]

TB, nobody's as smart as you. :worship:

Regale us once more with the history of transsexualism. You’ve got that memorized, right? Mad inadvertently deleted that thread.

Please enlighten us again why gender isn’t determined by biology. It must be rewarding work setting free those girls trapped in boys’ bodies.

Finally, let me say that it’s an honor to be insulted by a great mind like yours. I'm not worthy of your disdain. :cry:

Ah, when you can't face the music you create a strawman. Nice.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

What I dont get is why you post something specifically to get a reaction, then are surprised and pretty much offended by the reaction. I could probably tell you the reactions of most people on here and I assume you could too.

Ohhhhhh wait.....nm

Commish, I guess I've heard too much Mark Rudov lately. - http://thenononsenseman.com

I'm looking at it from a sociological perspective. How can the poor hapless male know when to act like a boar and when not to and keep his butt out of jail?

Universities permitting co-ed dorm rooms and allowing a male student to experience his wildest adolescent fantasies don't really help him to know his boundaries.

The equal roommate stuff is garbage. Women always have dominance because the average 20-year old male allows her to. The appendage between his legs is constantly waging war with the good judgment residing in the deep recesses of his brain.

Ladies, men are victims and you know it. You are being insensitive.

:D :cry: :D :cry: (I'm at a vulnerable time in my life right now. Don't make fun of me.)

Only you could make an issue out of a non issue.

Let's see...right in the story, it says the roommates avert their eyes.

second, in the story it says that very few students are taking up universities on the option. 120 outta 10,400 at Penn..hmm, a whopping 1%. 50 at UC Riverside outta 6K...a whopping less than 1%.

Is this really worth talking about? Hardly.

Do you really think the 1% that take them up are the ones with the wild adolescent fantasies? Get a grip. This isn't penthouse forum come to life.

As for "warping"...geez, man..please don't include me in your stupid assertations. If you wanna create an argument that men are stupid because we have penises, well, that is the worst kinda reverse sexism.

Why don't you just cut your's off since you are pretty much making Andrea Dworkin's argument for her.

[Harlan Huckleby]

'Some people ask the secret of our long marriage. We take time to go to a restaurant twice a week. A little candlelight, dinner, soft music and dancing. She goes Tuesdays, I go Fridays.'

Henny Youngman

My wife and I were happy for twenty years. Then we met.

Rodney Dangerfield


the old sweaty guys are the funniest comedians.