WHAT IF DA VIKES OFFER A FIRST ROUND DRAFT PICK FOR FAVRE ?

[Bretsky]

IF YOU ARE THE GM

What if the Vikings offered us a first round draft pick for Brett Favre.

Let's assume that we can only garner a 4th round pick elsewhere.

Do you make the deal ?

[Rastak]

IF YOU ARE THE GM

What if the Vikings offered us a first round draft pick for Brett Favre.

Let's assume that we can only garner a 4th round pick elsewhere.

Do you make the deal ?

It would never happen but I'd do it from the Packers perspective. A 1st round pick for a guy you don't even want? No brainer.

[Bretsky]

Being realistic, if Favre comes back it's likely he will only play one more year and at the most three or so years. It's unlikely we will move forward full stride without missing a beat, with a new QB, as some would like us to believe.

I'd do the deal knowing it will help us immensely down the road...even if it allows the Vikings to go deep into the playoffs

[sheepshead]

I hate first round picks--no way in hell-ever.

[MJZiggy]

How 'bout you just let those tampering charges stick and take their first rounder anyway and then trade him to the other team, netting you a first and a fourth?

[Bretsky]

IF YOU ARE THE GM

What if the Vikings offered us a first round draft pick for Brett Favre.

Let's assume that we can only garner a 4th round pick elsewhere.

Do you make the deal ?

It would never happen but I'd do it from the Packers perspective. A 1st round pick for a guy you don't even want? No brainer.


agree

[Rastak]

How 'bout you just let those tampering charges stick and take their first rounder anyway and then trade him to the other team, netting you a first and a fourth?


Tampering charges will net you nothing. The pick would be forfeit most likely and certainly not a first.

[Bretsky]

How 'bout you just let those tampering charges stick and take their first rounder anyway and then trade him to the other team, netting you a first and a fourth?

STOP is you :jack: er

Even if MN tampered I don't think they have to give their pick to us silly; TT just did this to bend over the Vikes and the Favre camp

[MJZiggy]

I knew that'd get you to pipe up... :P

[Rastak]

I knew that'd get you to pipe up... :P

So Zig, what's your answer on the poll?

[Bretsky]

I knew that'd get you to pipe up... :P

So Zig, what's your answer on the poll?


Like TT, she has no comment; let her create a timeline for a response :lol:

Actually, she will probably vote no

[Rastak]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[HarveyWallbangers]

How 'bout you just let those tampering charges stick and take their first rounder anyway and then trade him to the other team, netting you a first and a fourth?

Tampering charges will net you nothing. The pick would be forfeit most likely and certainly not a first.

Actually, in the case of the 49ers-Bears tampering charge, the 49ers forfeited a draft pick and swapped picks with Chicago (getting the lower of the two picks) in one round. Indeed, it did net the Bears something. Makes sense. The tampering not only could have helped the team doing it, but it also could have hurt the team that owned the rights to that player.

[Iron Mike]

Indeed, it did net the Bears something.

It helped them all the way to 7-9 and the NFC North cellar. :P

[Rastak]

How 'bout you just let those tampering charges stick and take their first rounder anyway and then trade him to the other team, netting you a first and a fourth?

Tampering charges will net you nothing. The pick would be forfeit most likely and certainly not a first.

Actually, in the case of the 49ers-Bears tampering charge, the 49ers forfeited a draft pick and swapped picks with Chicago (getting the lower of the two picks) in one round. Indeed, it did net the Bears something. Makes sense. The tampering not only could have helped the team doing it, but it also could have hurt the team that owned the rights to that player.


That's not netting a first round pick....did they swap in the first round, or later rounds....by the way, you are also jacking the thread.... :lol:

[Joemailman]

It's a tough call, but I'd probably do it. It would help the Vikes this year, but in a year or two, they'll be looking for a QB again, and we'll potentially have an outstanding player ready to break out into stardom.

[mmmdk]

It's a tough call, but I'd probably do it. It would help the Vikes this year, but in a year or two, they'll be looking for a QB again, and we'll potentially have an outstanding player ready to break out into stardom.

I agree but Favre in purple would be weird. I'll get over it though.

[Freak Out]

As much as I hate the Vikings I'd have to do it. He could tear it up with AP making the D key run all day.

[hoosier]

I'd do the trade if the Vikings had a first to trade next year, but since their next #1 isn't till the 2010 draft, I figure that the depreciation factor means the Packers would really only be netting a #2 for sending Favre to MN. And I definitely wouldn't trade him to that team for a 2, since that is below market value (per Jason Taylor trade).

[Rastak]

I'd do the trade if the Vikings had a first to trade next year, but since their next #1 isn't till the 2010 draft, I figure that the depreciation factor means the Packers would really only be netting a #2 for sending Favre to MN. And I definitely wouldn't trade him to that team for a 2, since that is below market value (per Jason Taylor trade).


Huh?

[Joemailman]

Some people seem to think the Vikings gave up their 2009 pick for Jared Allen, It was their 2008 pick they gave up.

[retailguy]

I'd do the trade if the Vikings had a first to trade next year, but since their next #1 isn't till the 2010 draft, I figure that the depreciation factor means the Packers would really only be netting a #2 for sending Favre to MN. And I definitely wouldn't trade him to that team for a 2, since that is below market value (per Jason Taylor trade).


Huh?

He thinks you gave up the 09 pick for Allen, but it was the '08.... research, research! :wink:

[Bretsky]

I'd do the trade if the Vikings had a first to trade next year, but since their next #1 isn't till the 2010 draft, I figure that the depreciation factor means the Packers would really only be netting a #2 for sending Favre to MN. And I definitely wouldn't trade him to that team for a 2, since that is below market value (per Jason Taylor trade).


ditto last responses

[retailguy]

Not a chance. No WAY no how. Not for ANY draft pick. It makes Minny better, you CANNOT help with that.... Especially NOT this year.

Was I emphatic enough? :P 8-)

[boiga]

I would do it, if only for the irony on opening night. Besides, that's the only thing that could possibly make beating the vikings more enjoyable than it was last year.

It would also end any Favre apologist rants on these boards for the next 5 years. Wouldn't that be worthwhile?

[cheesner]

Hell ya.

It is still the vikes and they will choke.

[SMACKTALKIE]

How 'bout you just let those tampering charges stick and take their first rounder anyway and then trade him to the other team, netting you a first and a fourth?


Tampering charges will net you nothing. The pick would be forfeit most likely and certainly not a first.

Childress has a few words on this topic, although not many. Winfield has alot to say. I think the "don't beleive everything you read" statement is telling. And very true.

http://ww3.startribune.com/vikingsblog/

MANKATO — Vikings cornerback Antoine Winfield isn’t afraid to offer an honest opinion and he did just that as he signed autographs for fans outside of Gage Center this evening. Asked about Packers quarterback Brett Favre playing for the Vikings, Winfield said: “I think it would be a great move for us, but I don’t know if Green Bay would trade him to a division rival.”

The Packers, in fact, have no interest in trading Favre within the NFC North and also have refused to grant him his release because they don’t want him signing with the Vikings — the team that apparently is his top choice. The Packers have filed a tampering charge against the Vikings for dealings with Favre. The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reported Tuesday that cell phone records showed discussions between Vikings offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell and Favre as well Vikings coach Brad Childress and the quarterback.

Officials from the NFL were at Winter Park on Tuesday to question Vikings personnel on the matter. While many Vikings players have simply said that Tarvaris Jackson is their guy, Winfield admits the thought of adding Favre is tempting.

Winfield has played twice a season against Favre since joining the Vikings in 2004. “Favre is still a great player,” Winfield said. “That’s what you want to do in this league is add as many great players as you can. I think Tarvaris will do a great job for us if it doesn’t happen.”

Meanwhile, Childress was greeted by a group of reporters as he stepped out of his car. Asked about the Favre controversy, Childress said: “I’m not sure what controvery you’re talking about.” He later added that people should not “believe everything you read,” and that the situation is “an NFL matter.”

[Rastak]

Right, but this is a simple poll of what posters would do. Tampering has nothing to do with Bretsky's question.

[SMACKTALKIE]

Right, but this is a simple poll of what posters would do. Tampering has nothing to do with Bretsky's question.

True, true. I can't vote on this topic as the criteria dose not apply to me. However, as a Vikiings fan I would not like trading a first for Favre. Maybe a second.

[Lurker64]

I would not want to trade Favre to Minnesota, even for a first.

I would accept the following trade: 2009 first, 2010 first, 2009 second, 2009 sixth, 2010 second, 2011 second, 2011 third, and 2012 first, and five players.

Throw in Favre, third round picks in 2009 and 2010, a fifth in 2009, and a tenth round pick in 2010 and I would make that trade.

[SMACKTALKIE]

I would not want to trade Favre to Minnesota, even for a first.

I would accept the following trade: 2009 first, 2010 first, 2009 second, 2009 sixth, 2010 second, 2011 second, 2011 third, and 2014 first, and five players.

Throw in Favre, third round picks in 2009 and 2010, a fifth in 2009, and a tenth round pick in 2010 and I would make that trade.

Could you break that down according to the trade value chart please. :lol:

[HarveyWallbangers]

That's not netting a first round pick....did they swap in the first round, or later rounds....by the way, you are also jacking the thread.... :lol:

Netting a first round pick wasn't my point. You said that the tampering charges wouldn't net the Packers anything. I was just pointing out that it could--if the Vikings are found guilty (by the commish) of tampering.

BTW, they swapped 3rd round picks.

[Bretsky]

It's a tough call, but I'd probably do it. It would help the Vikes this year, but in a year or two, they'll be looking for a QB again, and we'll potentially have an outstanding player ready to break out into stardom.


Bretsky doesn't like the softie threads; this should be a tough call

I'm a bit surprised though

It seems most of the forum is willing to wash their hands of Favre and go a relatively unproven QB with upside.

I find it interesting that over half would be against receiving a first round draft pick in a lopsided deal (for a 1st round pick) with our division rival for a guy we clearly don't want anymore

[Bretsky]

That's not netting a first round pick....did they swap in the first round, or later rounds....by the way, you are also jacking the thread.... :lol:

Netting a first round pick wasn't my point. You said that the tampering charges wouldn't net the Packers anything. I was just pointing out that it could--if the Vikings are found guilty (by the commish) of tampering.

BTW, they swapped 3rd round picks.


What's your vote anyways ??

[MadtownPacker]

It seems most of the forum is willing to wash their hands of Favre and go a relatively unproven QB with upside.

I find it interesting that over half would be against receiving a first round draft pick in a lopsided deal (for a 1st round pick) with our division rival for a guy we clearly don't want anymoreI agree and the situation is not going to go away no matter where Favre goes anyways. Fuck it TT, have big balls and do it.

I bet Goodell wishes he could force the Packers to release Favre so he could go to MN. The hype and ratings would be off the charts. At this point I want to see it happen because it is already a big mess so let's make it a big fucking mess.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I've already stated my thoughts several times. I'm cool if Favre wants to retire. I'm cool if Favre wants to come back to the Packers. I'm cool if Favre gets traded. The only thing I wouldn't be cool with is him getting trade to Minnesota or Chicago. Period. Doesn't matter the compensation.

[MJZiggy]

I've already stated my thoughts several times. I'm cool if Favre wants to retire. I'm cool if Favre wants to come back to the Packers. I'm cool if Favre gets traded. The only thing I wouldn't be cool with is him getting trade to Minnesota or Chicago. Period. Doesn't matter the compensation. :clap: :clap:

[Chevelle2]

I've already stated my thoughts several times. I'm cool if Favre wants to retire. I'm cool if Favre wants to come back to the Packers. I'm cool if Favre gets traded. The only thing I wouldn't be cool with is him getting trade to Minnesota or Chicago. Period. Doesn't matter the compensation.

Agree 100%.

[3irty1]

I've already stated my thoughts several times. I'm cool if Favre wants to retire. I'm cool if Favre wants to come back to the Packers. I'm cool if Favre gets traded. The only thing I wouldn't be cool with is him getting trade to Minnesota or Chicago. Period. Doesn't matter the compensation.

I'm with you. A top 5 pick is tempting but I just couldn't let Favre wear purple. 8-)

[Bretsky]

I've already stated my thoughts several times. I'm cool if Favre wants to retire. I'm cool if Favre wants to come back to the Packers. I'm cool if Favre gets traded. The only thing I wouldn't be cool with is him getting trade to Minnesota or Chicago. Period. Doesn't matter the compensation.


I can handle this...but for those trashing him and saying we don't want him anymore.. I'd think they'd favor a first.

[Partial]

Not a chance. No WAY no how. Not for ANY draft pick. It makes Minny better, you CANNOT help with that.... Especially NOT this year.

Was I emphatic enough? :P 8-)

RG, c'mon. A-rod is the answer! We're surely going to be just as good if not better by unloading the second best player at the most important position in the nfl for an unproven "rookie".

[pbmax]

As they said in Head Office "Make the sale"...

if its a number one.

[retailguy]

Not a chance. No WAY no how. Not for ANY draft pick. It makes Minny better, you CANNOT help with that.... Especially NOT this year.

Was I emphatic enough? :P 8-)

RG, c'mon. A-rod is the answer! We're surely going to be just as good if not better by unloading the second best player at the most important position in the nfl for an unproven "rookie".

I'm really torn on this one Partial. Really torn. Quite honestly, I'm tired of the Diva act. Considering ONLY that, I'm happy to move on. However, trading him to Minnesota is the WORST possible thing we could do with him.

I agree with all the opinions that Favre is better in 08 than Rodgers will likely be, but, the Diva shit has to end. Even if it affects 2008.

The thought of Favre playing anywhere else except Green Bay sickens me, but, looking forward to "will he, won't he" for the 8th year in a row does too, maybe even more than playing elsewhere.

But, the question was trade to Minnesota. NO. Tampa, hmm. Maybe. Coming back to Green Bay on a "one year" deal. NO. Two years? Maybe.

Rodgers? Good Lord, I've got no idea.

[pbmax]

Even better! Sorry Ras.


How 'bout you just let those tampering charges stick and take their first rounder anyway and then trade him to the other team, netting you a first and a fourth?

[pbmax]

The Bear's got to swap 3rd rounders with the 49ers, but you are right, the fourth was simply forfeited.

Because of the decision, the Bears and 49ers will switch third-round selections in the 2008 draft. As a result, Chicago now will have the seventh selection of the third round and San Francisco will have the 12th pick of the same round.



How 'bout you just let those tampering charges stick and take their first rounder anyway and then trade him to the other team, netting you a first and a fourth?

STOP is you :jack: er

Even if MN tampered I don't think they have to give their pick to us silly; TT just did this to bend over the Vikes and the Favre camp

[Zool]

I'm really torn on this one Partial. Really torn. Quite honestly, I'm tired of the Diva act. Considering ONLY that, I'm happy to move on. However, trading him to Minnesota is the WORST possible thing we could do with him.

I agree with all the opinions that Favre is better in 08 than Rodgers will likely be, but, the Diva shit has to end. Even if it affects 2008.

The thought of Favre playing anywhere else except Green Bay sickens me, but, looking forward to "will he, won't he" for the 8th year in a row does too, maybe even more than playing elsewhere.

But, the question was trade to Minnesota. NO. Tampa, hmm. Maybe. Coming back to Green Bay on a "one year" deal. NO. Two years? Maybe.

Rodgers? Good Lord, I've got no idea.

Pretty much word for word my feelings on the situation. If Brett would have kept his mouth shut, came back for the Packer HOF ceremony and let it be known that he wanted to come back either to the Packers or another team, I would have no problem with any of it. Airing the laundry, so to speak, is what has soured me on him.

I don't care if Thompson raped Favres dog, I don't want to hear about it from his mom, his gardener or even Favre himself. Keep your shit in house. This media BS is whats getting to me and, I think, most other people.

Edit: Oh and I wouldn't trade him to MN or any other team thats on the schedule this year. I don't care the compensation. Contrary to some who find themselves humorous even though no one else does, Thompson is not an idiot and understands football and Favre's legacy. He's not doing this because he doesn't like Brett.

[rbaloha1]

If the ViQueens provide the best deal please take it TT.

Why should we be scared of BF? BF will compile good stats but will throw an intecepation which causes the ViQueens to lose.

Also any draft picks acquired from the ViQueens weakens their future roster.

[BallHawk]

Depends on how far away the 2nd best offer is, if any.

If TT has full confidence in this team than giving Favre to the Vikes shouldn't be that much of a deal.

[pbmax]

Would you still take the first rounder from the Vikes even though you know T2 will turn it into two 2nds, and a 3rd? :D

[Harlan Huckleby]

I can't imagine MN offering a #1. I'm not sure they are that close to being a SB team. Maybe if they had some receivers for Favre to throw to the deal makes some sense.

[MadtownPacker]

Contrary to some who find themselves humorous even though no one else does, Thompson is not an idiot and understands football and Favre's legacy. He's not doing this because he doesn't like Brett.
How the hell do you know how TT feels???

I say the writing is on the wall and has been for some time. Favre is handling this shitty but I believe he is genuinely pissed off and I get the feeling it's not all in his head. Thompson doesnt give a fuck about his legacy or he would have begrudgingly taken him back. The smear campaign has been working both ways. Favre just sucks at it. Thompson is very slick and is not going to lose a PR mess to some rambling country hick.

Like I said, if TT thinks the Packers are better with Rodgers he should trade Favre wherever the offer is best. His avoiding the NFC North comes off as coddling and protective of his own legacy if you ask me.

[The Shadow]

I think you've got to end this mess quickly by dealing Favre off, but not to an NFC rival. Then, the situation never goes away; it will be the talking head's topic for every year Favre hangs around.
Take the best AFC deal.

[Bretsky]

Contrary to some who find themselves humorous even though no one else does, Thompson is not an idiot and understands football and Favre's legacy. He's not doing this because he doesn't like Brett.
How the hell do you know how TT feels???

I say the writing is on the wall and has been for some time. Favre is handling this shitty but I believe he is genuinely pissed off and I get the feeling it's not all in his head. Thompson doesnt give a fuck about his legacy or he would have begrudgingly taken him back. The smear campaign has been working both ways. Favre just sucks at it. Thompson is very slick and is not going to lose a PR mess to some rambling country hick.

Like I said, if TT thinks the Packers are better with Rodgers he should trade Favre wherever the offer is best. His avoiding the NFC North comes off as coddling and protective of his own legacy if you ask me.


:bclap: :bclap: :bclap: :bclap: :bclap:

[GBRulz]

No, Hell No and Eff No.

With Favre, chances are their first round pick would be a very late one. Not worth it, IMO.

Besides, I'm not sure what is more nauseating, Andy Reid in a speedo or Favre as a Queen.

[GBRulz]

Why should we be scared of BF? BF will compile good stats but will throw an intecepation which causes the ViQueens to lose.


As long as he throws Harris's way, he'll be fine :twisted:

[CaptainKickass]

I'm not sure what is more nauseating, Andy Reid in a speedo or Favre as a Queen.


Agreed - however - I unfortunately thought of something possibly more nauseating :idea: :








John Madden in a speedo.


:shock:

[woodbuck27]

I knew that'd get you to pipe up... :P

So Zig, what's your answer on the poll?


Like TT, she has no comment; let her create a timeline for a response :lol:

Actually, she will probably vote no

Whatever way and manner TT thinks pretty well describes MJ's personality and style. I'm thinking Eskimos and Igloo's or REALLY COLD Man Vs smart and with common sense, acting like a human with blood in veins.

and....TT 'of course' wouldn't really screw Favre would he? So he'd take that 1st for a joke. Same as you would MJ because that's good long term for the team.

mmmmm

Favre would be in Green Bay on Sept. 08 to see his number retired or maybe that plan will change. Anyway he pilots the Vikings to try to stay close to ARod and the Packers.

Right MJ? Everything is beautiful.

[pack4to84]

I would make the trade for Min 1st rd pick. If the vikings get Brett it would take away carries from AP. Brett likes to be the show, so he might hog the spot light. With AP track record of not putting the ball on the ground and Brett turnover happiness. Might not be a bad thing for Packer fans. Brett wouldn't have as good WR's in Min. He would have a 1 trick pony in Berrian, gator arms R.Ferguson, but he could make S.Rice a star though.

[cpk1994]

I've already stated my thoughts several times. I'm cool if Favre wants to retire. I'm cool if Favre wants to come back to the Packers. I'm cool if Favre gets traded. The only thing I wouldn't be cool with is him getting trade to Minnesota or Chicago. Period. Doesn't matter the compensation.


I can handle this...but for those trashing him and saying we don't want him anymore.. I'd think they'd favor a first.And you would be wrong again.

[Zool]

Contrary to some who find themselves humorous even though no one else does, Thompson is not an idiot and understands football and Favre's legacy. He's not doing this because he doesn't like Brett.
How the hell do you know how TT feels???

I say the writing is on the wall and has been for some time. Favre is handling this shitty but I believe he is genuinely pissed off and I get the feeling it's not all in his head. Thompson doesnt give a fuck about his legacy or he would have begrudgingly taken him back. The smear campaign has been working both ways. Favre just sucks at it. Thompson is very slick and is not going to lose a PR mess to some rambling country hick.

Like I said, if TT thinks the Packers are better with Rodgers he should trade Favre wherever the offer is best. His avoiding the NFC North comes off as coddling and protective of his own legacy if you ask me.

Because he's essentially upper management and he's actually good at it. No one runs a business like that successfully. I think he's doing what he thinks is good for his company. He took his entire fucking locker and sent it to Favre. He made sure that his jersey retirement was going to be in front of a national audience against a big time rival. The guy is all business and that definitely rubs some people the wrong way.

Had Favre not jerked them around in March with the "I'm coming back.....just kidding" we wouldn't even be having this conversation. Brett would be the starting QB of the Packers and its about time that the guy gets some fire for his selfish off-season BS. If you're unsure about retirement you dont retire with the idea that you could come back whenever you want. You say you're coming back and then later on say you're retiring.

[Fritz]

Contrary to some who find themselves humorous even though no one else does, Thompson is not an idiot and understands football and Favre's legacy. He's not doing this because he doesn't like Brett.
How the hell do you know how TT feels???

I say the writing is on the wall and has been for some time. Favre is handling this shitty but I believe he is genuinely pissed off and I get the feeling it's not all in his head. Thompson doesnt give a fuck about his legacy or he would have begrudgingly taken him back. The smear campaign has been working both ways. Favre just sucks at it. Thompson is very slick and is not going to lose a PR mess to some rambling country hick.

Like I said, if TT thinks the Packers are better with Rodgers he should trade Favre wherever the offer is best. His avoiding the NFC North comes off as coddling and protective of his own legacy if you ask me.

Because he's essentially upper management and he's actually good at it. No one runs a business like that successfully. I think he's doing what he thinks is good for his company. He took his entire fucking locker and sent it to Favre. He made sure that his jersey retirement was going to be in front of a national audience against a big time rival. The guy is all business and that definitely rubs some people the wrong way.

Had Favre not jerked them around in March with the "I'm coming back.....just kidding" we wouldn't even be having this conversation. Brett would be the starting QB of the Packers and its about time that the guy gets some fire for his selfish off-season BS. If you're unsure about retirement you dont retire with the idea that you could come back whenever you want. You say you're coming back and then later on say you're retiring.

Mad, one of the charges against Thompson is that he's not slick - people get pissed that he doesn't seem to give (Packer) rat's ass what fans think, that he's so robotic, and so on and so forth. I've yet to hear anyone call TT a slick PR dude.

[Bossman641]

Contrary to some who find themselves humorous even though no one else does, Thompson is not an idiot and understands football and Favre's legacy. He's not doing this because he doesn't like Brett.
How the hell do you know how TT feels???

I say the writing is on the wall and has been for some time. Favre is handling this shitty but I believe he is genuinely pissed off and I get the feeling it's not all in his head. Thompson doesnt give a fuck about his legacy or he would have begrudgingly taken him back. The smear campaign has been working both ways. Favre just sucks at it. Thompson is very slick and is not going to lose a PR mess to some rambling country hick.

Like I said, if TT thinks the Packers are better with Rodgers he should trade Favre wherever the offer is best. His avoiding the NFC North comes off as coddling and protective of his own legacy if you ask me.

Because he's essentially upper management and he's actually good at it. No one runs a business like that successfully. I think he's doing what he thinks is good for his company. He took his entire fucking locker and sent it to Favre. He made sure that his jersey retirement was going to be in front of a national audience against a big time rival. The guy is all business and that definitely rubs some people the wrong way.

Had Favre not jerked them around in March with the "I'm coming back.....just kidding" we wouldn't even be having this conversation. Brett would be the starting QB of the Packers and its about time that the guy gets some fire for his selfish off-season BS. If you're unsure about retirement you dont retire with the idea that you could come back whenever you want. You say you're coming back and then later on say you're retiring.

Agreed

Why does "avoiding the NFC North comes off as coddling and protective?" It is called doing what is smart. Vikings have a horrible QB, Favre would instantly upgrade their QB situation and make them one of the favorites in the NFC. Why would you want to do this?

I don't care how much you hate TT or bad you feel we need Favre, why would you want to help your biggest rival? It makes no sense.

[GBRulz]

, why would you want to help your biggest rival? It makes no sense.

Exactly...plus, it's a sagging economy, it's important for fans to still be able to obtain $3 tickets :twisted:

[texaspackerbacker]

I would not want to trade Favre to Minnesota, even for a first.

I would accept the following trade: 2009 first, 2010 first, 2009 second, 2009 sixth, 2010 second, 2011 second, 2011 third, and 2012 first, and five players.

Throw in Favre, third round picks in 2009 and 2010, a fifth in 2009, and a tenth round pick in 2010 and I would make that trade.

I think somebody went back and looked up the Herschel Walker deal.

[texaspackerbacker]

Of course, the only vote that really counts here is Thompson's, and I bet he votes no.

I voted yes. A first round pick is a lot to pass up. I'd hate to see Favre play in Minnesota just for the stink of it, but I honestly think he would have a rotten year--without the talent--mainly receivers--the Packers had surrounding him, and the Vikings would end up really regretting the trade.

[Pugger]

As much as I am sick of Brett and his antics of trying to stick it to TT I say no. Besides, the guy is still retired so until he files those damn reinstatemen papers he can sit on his tractor in MS. If Mr. Undecided does file those papers TT should trade his fanny to the Jets or Miami! :lol: I think this possiblity may the reason Favre is still retired!

[The Leaper]

I'd take a first round pick. It would mean that we got the services of Brett Favre for absolutely free for 16 years...we traded a first to get him, and would receive a first in return for him.

It won't happen though. The best we will get for him is a 2nd IMO.

[Zool]

Well free + $100mil

[Guiness]

[snip]so let's make it a big fucking mess.
Everybody wants to see a train wreck :lol:

My thoughts on this are 'NO' for two reasons.

The first reason is the same as a lot of the other no voters...I don't want to see him twice this year, and maybe twice again next (probably, the Vikes wouldn't take him w/o a 2yr commitment). Making that trade endangers our shot at winning the division, and you don't do that. So ditto for trading to any NFC North team, including the Lions.

The second is that I don't want a 1st round pick until the whole rookie salary cap is cleared up!!!! I think they do more to sink a team then help them. I count us lucky that Hawk isn't a bust and hurting our cap the way a high first rounder can. Anyways, I'd rather have a 2nd, 3rd and 4th than a first.

[woodbuck27]

I've already stated my thoughts several times. I'm cool if Favre wants to retire. I'm cool if Favre wants to come back to the Packers. I'm cool if Favre gets traded. The only thing I wouldn't be cool with is him getting trade to Minnesota or Chicago. Period. Doesn't matter the compensation.

The way he's been used in Green Bay ...the damn manipulation that almost half of the people that love? the Packers are so duped by that they would refuse a first rounder for a fourth rounder. Just to restrict Favre ... the TT suck crowd here and throughout Packer land that WILL change dwindle fast.

I want Favre in a Viking Uniform and doing his best and whatever that means to 'the Packers' and to TT. He took the dirty job he pays the price.

TT shouldn't have it all his way. Any of you that agree with TT's ways are as guilty as he is of the direction our team will go in.

It won't be up!!! Not the way TT handled this one. All my sensable and YES! dedicated sympathy rests with a Packer Legend not some 'bean counter'.

[prsnfoto]

Meanwhile, Childress was greeted by a group of reporters as he stepped out of his car. Asked about the Favre controversy, Childress said: “I’m not sure what controvery you’re talking about.” He later added that people should not “believe everything you read,” and that the situation is “an NFL matter.”

Could it be the glorious TT lied about the cell phone records? As much as I would like to see Brett go somewhere else and have success I would say no to the poll question who knows they might be the only 2 games we can win next year. :D

[boiga]

I want Favre in a Viking Uniform and doing his best and whatever that means to 'the Packers' and to TT. If he does, woodbuck, I'm sure Rastak could recommend a few good vikings boards for you.

After all, considering how strongly your feelings are against the Packers, you might as well follow Favre and start wearing purple. What's the point of sticking around being constantly furious at an institution you no longer support?

[woodbuck27]

Contrary to some who find themselves humorous even though no one else does, Thompson is not an idiot and understands football and Favre's legacy. He's not doing this because he doesn't like Brett.
How the hell do you know how TT feels???

I say the writing is on the wall and has been for some time. Favre is handling this shitty but I believe he is genuinely pissed off and I get the feeling it's not all in his head. Thompson doesnt give a fuck about his legacy or he would have begrudgingly taken him back. The smear campaign has been working both ways. Favre just sucks at it. Thompson is very slick and is not going to lose a PR mess to some rambling country hick.

Like I said, if TT thinks the Packers are better with Rodgers he should trade Favre wherever the offer is best. His avoiding the NFC North comes off as coddling and protective of his own legacy if you ask me.

BANG ON Mad! :D

[prsnfoto]

Well free + $100mil


He made the club 10 times that and probably will go down as one of the most profitable investments in sports history, not to mention what he has made the league in revenue, he is football's Jordan thats why the commish is pushing for this to be resolved $$$$$$$$$$$$.

[Zool]

Well free + $100mil


He made the club 10 times that and probably will go down as one of the most profitable investments in sports history, not to mention what he has made the league in revenue, he is football's Jordan thats why the commish is pushing for this to be resolved $$$$$$$$$$$$.

He's not hurting.

[woodbuck27]

I want Favre in a Viking Uniform and doing his best and whatever that means to 'the Packers' and to TT. If he does, woodbuck, I'm sure Rastak could recommend a few good vikings boards for you.

After all, considering how strongly your feelings are against the Packers, you might as well follow Favre and start wearing purple. What's the point of sticking around being constantly furious at an institution you no longer support?

Listen get this whipper...

I will die a Green Bay Packer fan. I've got 50 years committed to the Green Bay Packers ...that means I've every right to absolutely HATE what this franchise has done in handling and orchestrating the mess that we all feel here and in Packer land. TT is a smooth operator, and sadly that's apparant and will be... not a feather in his cap as time follows.

I don't enjoy observing TT as our GM. I don't like how he's held us to where it will soon be obvious.I believe I will be right man. After last season anything less than a Super Bowl appearance in 2008 = FAILURE for Ted Thompson and OUR team.

That analysis is easy for me. That doesn't translate to woodbuck27 deserting the Green Bay Packers as fan. I'm very concerned. :(

Favre in 'a Vikings uniform' is a possible reality and unlikely.I want Favre to do well wherever but get free from all I've seen on the team I love.

I believe TT will fall on his face. I believe...karma is a bitch. The prediction in no way dictates where my heart is. So this is a fact...TRUTH. I will remain loyal to the Green Bay Packers, of course as I have for 50 years despite our imminant skid.

Ohhh by the way. :D ing.

Your insinuation of me and becoming a vikings fan is a demonstration of either your ignorance, or juvenile no skills to run harassment on me or a good joke? I find YOU hilarious. Good JOKE Man. It's a deja vous experience. I laugh at a lot of people here. :D

[prsnfoto]

Well free + $100mil


He made the club 10 times that and probably will go down as one of the most profitable investments in sports history, not to mention what he has made the league in revenue, he is football's Jordan thats why the commish is pushing for this to be resolved $$$$$$$$$$$$.

He's not hurting.

Absolutely right, I am just saying the Packers made out like bandits on the deal, it is a business and we are seeing that more lately than ever, if it pans out great, if not TT's head should placed on a stick and hung above the entrance to Lambeau for all to see. :shock:

[GoPackGo]

:repost:

[GoPackGo]

IF YOU ARE THE GM

What if the Vikings offered us a first round draft pick for Brett Favre.

Let's assume that we can only garner a 4th round pick elsewhere.

Do you make the deal ?

Hell no.
A first round pick is not a guarantee of anything. see Ahmad Carroll, Tony Manderich, etc.

I consider TT a good GM but if he can't coexist with a legendary QB diva he's an idiot.

[boiga]

I will remain loyal to the Green Bay Packers, of course as I have for 50 years despite our imminant skid. Good to know, and my apologies if you think I mischaracterized your intentions.

Nevertheless, I don't understand the reason for a fan for any team to root for the other side just to prove that they are smarter than those running the organization. The Packers were here before Brett, and will last after he has gone, so why support his interests over those of the team?

The fact is that those interests are not reconcilable at this time. Brett was looking out for his own interests when he decided to unretire, asked to be released and stated that he would not be willing to take a supporting role or compete for the starting job with the Packers. The Packers were looking after their own interests when they decided that under those circumstances, they could not bring Favre back.

So, why as a Packers fan are you putting the interests of one player, no matter how great, over the interests of the team?

[MadtownPacker]

Because he's essentially upper management and he's actually good at it. No one runs a business like that successfully. I think he's doing what he thinks is good for his company. He took his entire fucking locker and sent it to Favre. He made sure that his jersey retirement was going to be in front of a national audience against a big time rival. The guy is all business and that definitely rubs some people the wrong way.
I never said he wasnt good at it you ballscratcher. I backed TT since day 1 on JSO when I bet half the now NOW TT supporters where likely bashing him. Same with M3 (I busted out that name first on JSO to the best of my knowledge). The shit I bolded comes off to me as hurried attempts to seal the deal.

[Packerarcher]

I don't ever want to see Favre play for anyone else. BUT if TT is going to fuck up and not let the best player be the starting QB. I would like to see Brett play somewhere that he has a good chance to win. If that is the hated Vikings so be it,it would be the only time in my life when I would not mind if the Vikes beat the Pack. It would actually be quite ironic if Brett was playing for the Vikings and thats the game that Rodgers went down in. Becuase make no mistake about it Rodgers will get injured this year.

[Zool]

Because he's essentially upper management and he's actually good at it. No one runs a business like that successfully. I think he's doing what he thinks is good for his company. He took his entire fucking locker and sent it to Favre. He made sure that his jersey retirement was going to be in front of a national audience against a big time rival. The guy is all business and that definitely rubs some people the wrong way.
I never said he wasnt good at it you ballscratcher. I backed TT since day 1 on JSO when I bet half the now NOW TT supporters where likely bashing him. Same with M3 (I busted out that name first on JSO to the best of my knowledge). The shit I bolded comes off to me as hurried attempts to seal the deal.

I'm not buying it. Maybe he was pissed about the retire/unretire/retire/unretire but seems to me that he's way to level headed to run his company like that. He's not specifically trying to get fired.

[MadtownPacker]

Mad, one of the charges against Thompson is that he's not slick - people get pissed that he doesn't seem to give (Packer) rat's ass what fans think, that he's so robotic, and so on and so forth. I've yet to hear anyone call TT a slick PR dude.Dont be a fool. That stone faced dude you see on press conferences aint TT. Thompson is no joke and plays his shit tight to the vest. I meant slick when it comes to running things (what matters most), not pleasing redneck fans like Zool. TT has made every move like a chess game and he is about to say checkmate and close it out.

[Zool]

Dont be a fool. That stone faced dude you see on press conferences aint TT. Thompson is no joke and plays his shit tight to the vest. I meant slick when it comes to running things (what matters most), not pleasing redneck fans like Zool. TT has made every move like a chess game and he is about to say checkmate and close it out.

Wow...you've actually out-dumbed Devin Hester....grats

[MadtownPacker]

Agreed

Why does "avoiding the NFC North comes off as coddling and protective?" It is called doing what is smart. Vikings have a horrible QB, Favre would instantly upgrade their QB situation and make them one of the favorites in the NFC. Why would you want to do this?

I don't care how much you hate TT or bad you feel we need Favre, why would you want to help your biggest rival? It makes no sense.What I mean is if he is 100% confident in the team he has now then why be scared to face him in purple?.

Yoda said it best when he told the Emperor - "If so powerful you are why leave".

TT could send Favre to fucking Alaska but even then if he throwing TDs to penguins the moment ARod throws a pick in GB it will be compared. There is no escaping it unless Favre stays retired. With the in mind I say take the best yo can get.

[The Leaper]

What I mean is if he is 100% confident in the team he has now then why be scared to face him in purple?

Exactly. If this is "the best move for the Packers", then Thompson really shouldn't care where Favre goes.

[MadtownPacker]

Dont be a fool. That stone faced dude you see on press conferences aint TT. Thompson is no joke and plays his shit tight to the vest. I meant slick when it comes to running things (what matters most), not pleasing redneck fans like Zool. TT has made every move like a chess game and he is about to say checkmate and close it out.

Wow...you've actually out-dumbed Devin Hester....gratsWow you actually out dumbed Tank. Maybe you should retire your lame comeback.

[Packerarcher]

If Exucutive fuck up of the year TT is so confident of his team with out a Brett Favre at the helm. Why doesn't he trade Favre to the Vikings or any othe division rival. Say what you want about this not being personall for TT,but things like this just show that it is. Also his statement at the shareholders meeting about being committed to winning NOW,what a FUCKING LIE. The man can not open his mouth with out bullshit spewing out.

[Zool]

Dont be a fool. That stone faced dude you see on press conferences aint TT. Thompson is no joke and plays his shit tight to the vest. I meant slick when it comes to running things (what matters most), not pleasing redneck fans like Zool. TT has made every move like a chess game and he is about to say checkmate and close it out.

Wow...you've actually out-dumbed Devin Hester....gratsWow you actually out dumbed Tank. Maybe you should retire your lame comeback.

You mimic'd my comeback and then bagged on it....ironic.

[Bossman641]

Agreed

Why does "avoiding the NFC North comes off as coddling and protective?" It is called doing what is smart. Vikings have a horrible QB, Favre would instantly upgrade their QB situation and make them one of the favorites in the NFC. Why would you want to do this?

I don't care how much you hate TT or bad you feel we need Favre, why would you want to help your biggest rival? It makes no sense.What I mean is if he is 100% confident in the team he has now then why be scared to face him in purple?.

Yoda said it best when he told the Emperor - "If so powerful you are why leave".

TT could send Favre to fucking Alaska but even then if he throwing TDs to penguins the moment ARod throws a pick in GB it will be compared. There is no escaping it unless Favre stays retired. With the in mind I say take the best yo can get.

TT is 100% confident in his team against the NFL as they are currently set. Why would TT want to make a move to strengthen one of his rival's biggest needs? Better question, why do so many fans want to see our rival's biggest weakness turned into a strength? It makes absolutely no sense.

I don't want to see Favre in MIN for a few reasons - it would help their team and would put a big damper on the Favre era for me. Why would you ever want this to happen? I cannot figure this out. Because Favre somehow "earned" it? How? I cannot believe the number of Packer fans I have seen who hope that Favre ends up on the Vikings, whether it be to stick it to TT or because they want to see him win.

I have no problem with Favre wanting to play again elsewhere. TT could send him to anywhere but CHI or MIN and I would have no problem with it. I just don't get the whole "I hope Favre ends up on the Vikings" thing.

[swede]

I just don't get the whole "I hope Favre ends up on the Vikings" thing.



I think it's more of a "I'd be happy to take away a nice pick from Minnesota and still beat them twice" glass is half-full thing.

Minnesota has a lot of talent but I don't think they have the right coach to get very far--even with a really good qb.

I'm with you in that I'd prefer that Favre would not play for division rivals, but I feel that way only because I don't want to have to deal with stoopid talk from blue and purple fans.

[cpk1994]

Meanwhile, Childress was greeted by a group of reporters as he stepped out of his car. Asked about the Favre controversy, Childress said: “I’m not sure what controvery you’re talking about.” He later added that people should not “believe everything you read,” and that the situation is “an NFL matter.”

Could it be the glorious TT lied about the cell phone records? As much as I would like to see Brett go somewhere else and have success I would say no to the poll question who knows they might be the only 2 games we can win next year. :DSoi becuase the might Brad Childerss claims it didn't happen, that is the honest to god truth. Childress woulod never admit he tampered. To make that inference is comically stupid.

[Bossman641]

I just don't get the whole "I hope Favre ends up on the Vikings" thing.



I think it's more of a "I'd be happy to take away a nice pick from Minnesota and still beat them twice" glass is half-full thing.

Minnesota has a lot of talent but I don't think they have the right coach to get very far--even with a really good qb.

I'm with you in that I'd prefer that Favre would not play for division rivals, but I feel that way only because I don't want to have to deal with stoopid talk from blue and purple fans.

I disagree. I can't believe the number of people who were saying earlier that we should just release Favre if we didn't want him and leave him free to sign with whoever he wanted. No discussion of picks, just "Brett has earned this. Let him have a chance to win again" or "I hope he signs with the Vikings, then TT will be sorry."

[Lurker64]

Exactly. If this is "the best move for the Packers", then Thompson really shouldn't care where Favre goes.

The Packers have several different facets and what might be best for one might not be best for another. Even if trading Favre to Minnesota for a first round pick is the best thing for the Packers in terms of "winning games as a football organization" it might not be the best move for the Packers in terms of "increasing or maintaining revenue streams."

While Thompson is primarily concerned with winning football games, his bosses assuredly are very interested in the state of revenue streams.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Like I said, if TT thinks the Packers are better with Rodgers he should trade Favre wherever the offer is best. His avoiding the NFC North comes off as coddling and protective of his own legacy if you ask me.


:bclap: :bclap: :bclap: :bclap: :bclap:


Some real genius analysis here.

TT makes moves to protect the competitive advantage of Green Bay, and this is him being "protective of his own legacy."

does it get any dumber?

[MadtownPacker]

Shut your mouth you flaming homo, you're probably TT's bitch.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Hell no, I want to see McCarthy & Thompson run out of town. All they care about is the Packers winning to protect their legacy.

[arcilite]

Shut your mouth you flaming homo, you're probably TT's bitch.

how old are you, 12?

have your balls even dropped yet?




Anyways,

We need to keep Favre out of the NFC north at all costs

[Zool]

Mad's a chick. Thats the big secret. He has no balls.

[MadtownPacker]

Dont trying to hide the truth that you like getting poked more then the Pillsbury Doughboy. Shit probably cost your parents a grip in shrink bills.

[GrnBay007]

TT makes moves to protect the competitive advantage of Green Bay

So, is he doubting the team HE put together by any chance?

[arcilite]

Dont trying to hide the truth that you like getting poked more then the Pillsbury Doughboy. Shit probably cost your parents a grip in shrink bills.

wut

speak english.

[MadtownPacker]

Shut your mouth you flaming homo, you're probably TT's bitch.

how old are you, 12?

have your balls even dropped yet?
Im 16 and you got a lot of nerve to talk with an RKelly avatar.

[Harlan Huckleby]

speak english.

I guess you're new around here. Mad owns the joint, so everybody just smiles and pretends they know what he's talking about.

[MadtownPacker]

Dont trying to hide the truth that you like getting poked more then the Pillsbury Doughboy. Shit probably cost your parents a grip in shrink bills.

wut

speak english.What?? Learn to talk something besides redneck.

Let me put it so you can understand. Harlan want TT to treat him like you would treat your female cousins. :lol:

[Zool]

Arc its all (well mostly) in good fun. HH really is a pillow biter though.

[Harlan Huckleby]

TT makes moves to protect the competitive advantage of Green Bay

So, is he doubting the team HE put together by any chance?

you're speaking in tongues now too. I don't follow your logic.

[arcilite]

Shut your mouth you flaming homo, you're probably TT's bitch.

how old are you, 12?

have your balls even dropped yet?
Im 16 and you got a lot of nerve to talk with an RKelly avatar.


ahem.....its DMX.

[MadtownPacker]

ahem.....its DMX.They all look alike.

(Yes I said that)

[MadtownPacker]

Dont trying to hide the truth that you like getting poked more then the Pillsbury Doughboy. Shit probably cost your parents a grip in shrink bills.

wut

speak english.BTW - This was for Harlan not you.

[arcilite]

Dont trying to hide the truth that you like getting poked more then the Pillsbury Doughboy. Shit probably cost your parents a grip in shrink bills.

wut

speak english.BTW - This was for Harlan not you.

I dont care who it was for


'a grip in shrink bills'

im still trying to decipher that

[Zool]

Dont trying to hide the truth that you like getting poked more then the Pillsbury Doughboy. Shit probably cost your parents a grip in shrink bills.

wut

speak english.BTW - This was for Harlan not you.

I dont care who it was for


'a grip in shrink bills'

im still trying to decipher that

Let me help you out.

A grip is a lot, or like a handful of money. A shrink is a psychiatrist. So basically your parents had to spend a lot of money for psychotherapy.

[arcilite]

Dont trying to hide the truth that you like getting poked more then the Pillsbury Doughboy. Shit probably cost your parents a grip in shrink bills.

wut

speak english.BTW - This was for Harlan not you.

I dont care who it was for


'a grip in shrink bills'

im still trying to decipher that

Let me help you out.

A grip is a lot, or like a handful of money. A shrink is a psychiatrist. So basically your parents had to spend a lot of money for psychotherapy.


thanks.

[MadtownPacker]

I dont care who it was for


'a grip in shrink bills'

im still trying to decipher thatIt cost his parents a ton of money in psychiatrist bills.

[The Shadow]

A 'grip' is a suitcase, So : a suitcase full of money.

[MadtownPacker]

A 'grip' is a suitcase, So : a suitcase full of money.Damn, if Grampa Simpson here knows what it means Arcilite must live wayyyy out in dem hills.

[Freak Out]

Man...you motherfuckers be fluent in jive.

[Zool]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-xHPU6NulM

[woodbuck27]

I will remain loyal to the Green Bay Packers, of course as I have for 50 years despite our imminant skid. Good to know, and my apologies if you think I mischaracterized your intentions.

Nevertheless, I don't understand the reason for a fan for any team to root for the other side just to prove that they are smarter than those running the organization. The Packers were here before Brett, and will last after he has gone, so why support his interests over those of the team?

The fact is that those interests are not reconcilable at this time. Brett was looking out for his own interests when he decided to unretire, asked to be released and stated that he would not be willing to take a supporting role or compete for the starting job with the Packers. The Packers were looking after their own interests when they decided that under those circumstances, they could not bring Favre back.

So, why as a Packers fan are you putting the interests of one player, no matter how great, over the interests of the team?

Good grapes! Favre wants to play in the NFL and the Packers don't want him.

I will always wish Favre well as he was the face of this team for over a decade, and the face of the NFL and it's most popular player for a long time.

How could I not pull for Brett Favre and feel sad the way he was treated after a sensational season last year. The Packer management got rid of Favre finally, but given last season and us so close it makes no sense.

Anything less this year than a SB appearance should be considered a management failure on our team. What was the panic?

Favre and one more season should have been automatic. Just allow him time to really feel ready and... as if he wouldn't get there.

That's still Brett Favre.

[woodbuck27]

Yes, I'd make the deal in a second if it's our best offer
51% [ 28 ]
No way would I trade him to Minnesota even if it's hands down the best offer
48% [ 26 ]

Total Votes : 54

Well on the surface, this Forum has 26 + posters that still respect ot fear Favre. GOOD!

[The Shadow]

I will remain loyal to the Green Bay Packers, of course as I have for 50 years despite our imminant skid. Good to know, and my apologies if you think I mischaracterized your intentions.

Nevertheless, I don't understand the reason for a fan for any team to root for the other side just to prove that they are smarter than those running the organization. The Packers were here before Brett, and will last after he has gone, so why support his interests over those of the team?

The fact is that those interests are not reconcilable at this time. Brett was looking out for his own interests when he decided to unretire, asked to be released and stated that he would not be willing to take a supporting role or compete for the starting job with the Packers. The Packers were looking after their own interests when they decided that under those circumstances, they could not bring Favre back.

So, why as a Packers fan are you putting the interests of one player, no matter how great, over the interests of the team?

Good grapes! Favre wants to play in the NFL and the Packers don't want him.

I will always wish Favre well as he was the face of this team for over a decade, and the face of the NFL and it's most popular player for a long time.

How could I not pull for Brett Favre and feel sad the way he was treated after a sensational season last year. The Packer management got rid of Favre finally, but given last season and us so close it makes no sense.

Anything less this year than a SB appearance should be considered a management failure on our team. What was the panic?

Favre and one more season should have been automatic. Just allow him time to really feel ready and... as if he wouldn't get there.

That's still Brett Favre.

'Management' provided that very opportunity LAST season - but a bonehead pass flushed it all away. That problem is now being corrected.

[woodbuck27]

I will remain loyal to the Green Bay Packers, of course as I have for 50 years despite our imminant skid. Good to know, and my apologies if you think I mischaracterized your intentions.

Nevertheless, I don't understand the reason for a fan for any team to root for the other side just to prove that they are smarter than those running the organization. The Packers were here before Brett, and will last after he has gone, so why support his interests over those of the team?

The fact is that those interests are not reconcilable at this time. Brett was looking out for his own interests when he decided to unretire, asked to be released and stated that he would not be willing to take a supporting role or compete for the starting job with the Packers. The Packers were looking after their own interests when they decided that under those circumstances, they could not bring Favre back.

So, why as a Packers fan are you putting the interests of one player, no matter how great, over the interests of the team?

Good grapes! Favre wants to play in the NFL and the Packers don't want him.

I will always wish Favre well as he was the face of this team for over a decade, and the face of the NFL and it's most popular player for a long time.

How could I not pull for Brett Favre and feel sad the way he was treated after a sensational season last year. The Packer management got rid of Favre finally, but given last season and us so close it makes no sense.

Anything less this year than a SB appearance should be considered a management failure on our team. What was the panic?

Favre and one more season should have been automatic. Just allow him time to really feel ready and... as if he wouldn't get there.

That's still Brett Favre.

'Management' provided that very opportunity LAST season - but a bonehead pass flushed it all away. That problem is now being corrected.

That play call allowed no room for error unless Favre tossed it to the sideline. Yes it should have become a busted play and Favre toss's it out but that route sucked. No room for error.

Who made that call?

[Freak Out]

I wonder if the Vikes would take Favre and Grant straight up for AP? :lol:

[Rastak]

I wonder if the Vikes would take Favre and Grant straight up for AP? :lol:


Ummmmm......no.


I do like Grant though.

[Freak Out]

I wonder if the Vikes would take Favre and Grant straight up for AP? :lol:


Ummmmm......no.


I do like Grant though.

What about if we throw in Rodgers as well? :lol: