Training Camp Talk

[boiga]

Well, it's gotta be better than talking about Grant and Favre drama, right?

This was the funniest news so far this morning on the GBPG blog:


Four players served in the long-snapping role, including JJ. Jansen, Thomas Gafford, Ryan Considine and, believe it or not, Johnny Jolly. Both of Jolly’s snaps sailed over Ryan’s head.

Jolly's gonna be our replacement for Rob Davis. You heard it here first.

[packers11]

Why did they force Rob Davis into retirement anyway??? Didn't he want to play 1 more year???

[sheepshead]

Why did they force Rob Davis into retirement anyway??? Didn't he want to play 1 more year???

HAAAAAAAAAAA

[texaspackerbacker]

I hope Jolly doesn't get ticketed for SUI--Snapping Under the Influence.

[billy_oliver880]

Bring on the long snapper competition! :D

[oregonpackfan]

Why did they force Rob Davis into retirement anyway??? Didn't he want to play 1 more year???

I think the NFL has a rule against leaning on a walker while snapping the ball. :lol:

[boiga]

Other notes from GBPG: Ruvell's kicking ass
-- Receiver Ruvell Martin had a pair of spectacular catches. On the first, he beat cornerback Jarrett Bush on a fly pattern. His feet got tangled with Bush, but he still made the catch from Rodgers, who made an accurate delivery. A few plays later, Martin jumped and extended himself to snag another Rodgers pass on a hitch route.

From M3's press briefing: Harrel is week to week with his injury and Pickett is day to day with a hammy strain that happened last week.

Rodgers was sharp in camp, but had one presnap penalty.

Brandon Jackson looks great.

[Chevelle2]

Other notes from GBPG: Ruvell's kicking ass
-- Receiver Ruvell Martin had a pair of spectacular catches. On the first, he beat cornerback Jarrett Bush on a fly pattern. His feet got tangled with Bush, but he still made the catch from Rodgers, who made an accurate delivery. A few plays later, Martin jumped and extended himself to snag another Rodgers pass on a hitch route.

From M3's press briefing: Harrel is week to week with his injury and Pickett is day to day with a hammy strain that happened last week.

Rodgers was sharp in camp, but had one presnap penalty.

Brandon Jackson looks great.

You know what this means.....

[boiga]

Not really, what does it mean?

One more thing from the Press Conference:

This is the healthiest the Packers have been at the start of Training Camp, with the fewest players nursing injuries during his tenure. Everyone passed the conditioning run, although one player cramped up.

M3 thinks it's because the team is so young.

[Chevelle2]

Not really, what does it mean?

One more thing from the Press Conference:

This is the healthiest the Packers have been at the start of Training Camp, with the fewest players nursing injuries during his tenure. Everyone passed the conditioning run, although one player cramped up.

M3 thinks it's because the team is so young.

JMO, but if Jackson is ballin, Grant might wanna get his ass in camp quck

[Pacopete4]

Not really, what does it mean?

One more thing from the Press Conference:

This is the healthiest the Packers have been at the start of Training Camp, with the fewest players nursing injuries during his tenure. Everyone passed the conditioning run, although one player cramped up.

M3 thinks it's because the team is so young.



The only position we keep getting hurt at seems to be the DT position which is a big one, it all starts up front

[boiga]

The only position we keep getting hurt at seems to be the DT position which is a big one, it all starts up front

Yup, that's easily our biggest worry going forward. Then again, maybe Pickett's just fakin' it so he doesn't have to take the conditioning test. He's not our most agile guy.

From looking over the info, Swain had a lousy morning. He dropped a couple of passes and allowed Harris to get an interception by not looking back when the ball was in the air. Good to know Al still has the moves though.

Tory Humphrey also had a bad case nerves in his first practice back in a year. He missed a catchable pass from Rodgers, had a false start, and was taken out for Finley. Maybe he was worried history would repeat itself and he'd waste another year on IR?

[BallHawk]

Other notes from GBPG: Ruvell's kicking ass
-- Receiver Ruvell Martin had a pair of spectacular catches. On the first, he beat cornerback Jarrett Bush on a fly pattern. His feet got tangled with Bush, but he still made the catch from Rodgers, who made an accurate delivery. A few plays later, Martin jumped and extended himself to snag another Rodgers pass on a hitch route.

That's mah man, Ruvell. :D

[bobblehead]

Other notes from GBPG: Ruvell's kicking ass
-- Receiver Ruvell Martin had a pair of spectacular catches. On the first, he beat cornerback Jarrett Bush on a fly pattern. His feet got tangled with Bush, but he still made the catch from Rodgers, who made an accurate delivery. A few plays later, Martin jumped and extended himself to snag another Rodgers pass on a hitch route.

That's mah man, Ruvell. :D

Falco on twilliams

ballhawk on ruvell

I hope you are both right.

[bbbffl66]

Well, it's gotta be better than talking about Grant and Favre drama, right?

This was the funniest news so far this morning on the GBPG blog:


Four players served in the long-snapping role, including JJ. Jansen, Thomas Gafford, Ryan Considine and, believe it or not, Johnny Jolly. Both of Jolly’s snaps sailed over Ryan’s head.

Jolly's gonna be our replacement for Rob Davis. You heard it here first.

Favre becomes long snapper and keeps streak intact?

[Guiness]

Well, it's gotta be better than talking about Grant and Favre drama, right?

Jolly's gonna be our replacement for Rob Davis. You heard it here first.

Favre becomes long snapper and keeps streak intact? :rs:

[Lurker64]

Favre becomes long snapper and keeps streak intact?

I would support this -ONLY- if Rob Davis is allowed to compete for his old job against Favre.

[Pacopete4]

brett would throw it to hard for our place holder to catch it...

[boiga]

Back to actual team discussion, here are some more notes from the GBPG and JSO:

-Colledge and Moll took all the reps with the 1st team Oline this morning. Clifton was resting and Barbre was on the 2nd team.

-T-williams broke up two passes.

-Jansen long snapped for punts, Gafford did field goals.

-Brohm was looking rather badly inconsistent.

-Like I said above, Ruvell kicked ass while Swain and Humphrey had a lousy practice.

[Partial]

Other notes from GBPG: Ruvell's kicking ass
-- Receiver Ruvell Martin had a pair of spectacular catches. On the first, he beat cornerback Jarrett Bush on a fly pattern. His feet got tangled with Bush, but he still made the catch from Rodgers, who made an accurate delivery. A few plays later, Martin jumped and extended himself to snag another Rodgers pass on a hitch route.

That's mah man, Ruvell. :D

Seem's like Ruvell made some spectacular catches of some awful throws. Hopefully the magic will continue during the season as I have a hunch we'll have a lot of bad throws.

[Zool]

Other notes from GBPG: Ruvell's kicking ass
-- Receiver Ruvell Martin had a pair of spectacular catches. On the first, he beat cornerback Jarrett Bush on a fly pattern. His feet got tangled with Bush, but he still made the catch from Rodgers, who made an accurate delivery. A few plays later, Martin jumped and extended himself to snag another Rodgers pass on a hitch route.

That's mah man, Ruvell. :D

Seem's like Ruvell made some spectacular catches of some awful throws. Hopefully the magic will continue during the season as I have a hunch we'll have a lot of bad throws.

Just shut up already P. Its getting old.

[Mazzin]

I can't stand it any more. Partial you used to be a cool cat, now you act like idiotic tank. Don't be ignorant. please its growing tiresome.
:roll:

[Mazzin]

Other notes from GBPG: Ruvell's kicking ass
-- Receiver Ruvell Martin had a pair of spectacular catches. On the first, he beat cornerback Jarrett Bush on a fly pattern. His feet got tangled with Bush, but he still made the catch from Rodgers, who made an accurate delivery. A few plays later, Martin jumped and extended himself to snag another Rodgers pass on a hitch route.

That's mah man, Ruvell. :D

Seem's like Ruvell made some spectacular catches of some awful throws. Hopefully the magic will continue during the season as I have a hunch we'll have a lot of bad throws.

Just shut up already P. Its getting old.

Exactly what I was thinking, EVERY thread filled up with this garbage.

[woodbuck27]

Other notes from GBPG: Ruvell's kicking ass
-- Receiver Ruvell Martin had a pair of spectacular catches. On the first, he beat cornerback Jarrett Bush on a fly pattern. His feet got tangled with Bush, but he still made the catch from Rodgers,[b] who made an accurate delivery.[/bu A few plays later, Martin jumped and extended himself to snag another Rodgers pass on a hitch route.

That's mah man, Ruvell. :D

Seem's like Ruvell made some spectacular catches of some awful throws. Hopefully the magic will continue during the season as I have a hunch we'll have a lot of bad throws.

Just shut up already P. Its getting old.

Exactly what I was thinking, EVERY thread filled up with this garbage.

Holy Cow. Mazzin. Welcome back. :D

[Mazzin]

Thanks Bucky. Never been gone, been right here with you guys all along, just dont respond often, till i see partial with his shitty ass attitude. What a negative nancy. :jack:

[Joemailman]

Back to actual team discussion, here are some more notes from the GBPG and JSO:

-Brohm was looking rather badly inconsistent.

Does this mean Brett gets a chance to compete for the backup job?

[motife]

TE Evan Moore

http://i.packers.com/pg/2008-07-28/photo4.jpg

http://i.packers.com/pg/2008-07-28/photo6.jpg

Alan Barbre

http://i.packers.com/pg/2008-07-28/photo18.jpg

Brandon Jackson

http://i.packers.com/pg/2008-07-28/photo30.jpg

Nick Collins

http://i.packers.com/pg/2008-07-28/photo31.jpg

Tyrone Culver

http://i.packers.com/pg/2008-07-28/photo32.jpg

Ruvell Martin

http://i.packers.com/pg/2008-07-28/photo33.jpg

James Jones

http://i.packers.com/pg/2008-07-28/photo34.jpg

A.J. Hawk

http://i.packers.com/pg/2008-07-28/photo21.jpg
Greg Jennings

http://i.packers.com/pg/2008-07-28/photo35.jpg

Donald Driver

http://i.packers.com/pg/2008-07-28/photo37.jpg

Aaron Rouse and Tony Moll

http://i.packers.com/pg/2008-07-28/photo16.jpg

Atari Bigby

http://i.packers.com/pg/2008-07-28/photo19.jpg

Johnny Jolly

http://i.packers.com/pg/2008-07-28/photo23.jpg

Brady Poppinga

http://i.packers.com/pg/2008-07-28/photo36.jpg

[Freak Out]

Freaking Martin got the spider bike. 8-)

[Iron Mike]

Freaking Martin got the spider bike. 8-)

Reminds me of the Orange Krate that was around BITD...... 8-)

http://www.customflamepainting.com/personal/orange_krate.jpg

[MOBB DEEP]

TE Evan Moore

http://i.packers.com/pg/2008-07-28/photo4.jpg

http://i.packers.com/pg/2008-07-28/photo6.jpg

Alan Barbre

http://i.packers.com/pg/2008-07-28/photo18.jpg

Brandon Jackson

http://i.packers.com/pg/2008-07-28/photo30.jpg

Nick Collins

http://i.packers.com/pg/2008-07-28/photo31.jpg

Tyrone Culver

http://i.packers.com/pg/2008-07-28/photo32.jpg

Ruvell Martin

http://i.packers.com/pg/2008-07-28/photo33.jpg

James Jones

http://i.packers.com/pg/2008-07-28/photo34.jpg

A.J. Hawk

http://i.packers.com/pg/2008-07-28/photo21.jpg
Greg Jennings

http://i.packers.com/pg/2008-07-28/photo35.jpg

Donald Driver

http://i.packers.com/pg/2008-07-28/photo37.jpg

Aaron Rouse and Tony Moll

http://i.packers.com/pg/2008-07-28/photo16.jpg

Atari Bigby

http://i.packers.com/pg/2008-07-28/photo19.jpg

Johnny Jolly

http://i.packers.com/pg/2008-07-28/photo23.jpg

Brady Poppinga

http://i.packers.com/pg/2008-07-28/photo36.jpg

great pics...

[Joemailman]

I wonder if that kid asked Evan Moore, "Think you got a shot at the practice squad?"

[BallHawk]

I wonder if that kid asked Evan Moore, "Think you got a shot at the practice squad?"

Wonder if that other kid asked Atari for some blow....

[motife]

I wonder if that kid asked Evan Moore, "Think you got a shot at the practice squad?"

those 2 photos are my favorites. No way can Evan's feet fit the pedals, but that didn't stop him. He didn't want to disappoint that sweet little girl.

I like that she got up on the back wheel to ride too.

[Brando19]

http://blogs.jsonline.com/packers/archive/2008/07/28/tc-practice-no-2-evening.aspx

Hmm...Tramon Williams appeared limping. Also, what's it mean by Rodgers stared down Humphrey? I guess he was pissed at him for not getting open or catching the ball. ARod is being watched like a hawk so he wants to perform the best he can plus some.

[boiga]

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/ic/blogs/insider/index.shtml


Wide receiver James Jones got wide open on a deep pass for a long completion from quarterback Aaron Rodgers after cornerback Charles Woodson gave up on coverage about 15 yards downfield.

This is all the evidence I need that Aaron has the support of the team. Since when has C-Wood given up on coverage? He let Jones go to make A-rod look good.

Also, Tramon left practice.... hopefully it was just cramping

[Brando19]

Maybe Woodson thinks the Packers are gonna suck until Brett gets here so he doesn't wanna make any effort.

[boiga]

Can't deny the possibility. But I like my theory better.


Defensive end Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila had the most decisive win among pass rushers when he blew past Tony Moll on an inside rush.

Good to know KGB still has a few tricks. If he's healthy again we might not have to worry about our pass rush.

Also, Josh Sitton and Mason Crosby are apparently impressing.

[BallHawk]

KGB can still be effective if we don't overuse him.

But, of course, we will overuse him.

[BallHawk]

John Kuhn looks like Ryan Gosling in "The Believer".

[BallHawk]

This kid has a Ruvell Martin jersey....

http://graphics.jsonline.com/graphics/photographer/25/25611_large.jpg

There are fellow believers....

[Bretsky]

This kid has a Ruvell Martin jersey....

http://graphics.jsonline.com/graphics/photographer/25/25611_large.jpg

There are fellow believers....

I didn't even realize they sold them :lol:

For my recent B'day my brother noted he went to a few spots looking for a AROD jersey for me; luckily they don't make too many of them either as he didn't find one

[BallHawk]

And that's what custom jerseys are for.

[Lurker64]

And that's what custom jerseys are for.

That's how I got my Rob Davis jersey...

[HarveyWallbangers]

And that's what custom jerseys are for.

It's probably a Beebe jersey.

[Bretsky]

And that's what custom jerseys are for.

It's probably a Beebe jersey.


:bclap:

Good one that sent me laughing

[boiga]

T Williams has a "hip flexor injury."

According to GBPG, Barbre seemed to a little better in the one on one drills than Colledge. Maybe this will be the turning point? Or is Colledge going to have to screw up royally first?

[Packers4Ever]

Why did they force Rob Davis into retirement anyway??? Didn't he want to play 1 more year???

I think the NFL has a rule against leaning on a walker while snapping the ball. :lol:

BAAAAAAAAAAAAD !!! :wink:

:P

[motife]

This kid has a Ruvell Martin jersey....

http://graphics.jsonline.com/graphics/photographer/25/25611_large.jpg



What's with all the #12 jerseys?

Zeke Bratkowski? Lynn Dickey? John Hadl? Jim Del Gaizo?

http://www.go4thestars.com/5204zb.jpg

http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/Lynn-Dickey-Photograph-C12960838.jpeg

http://graphics.jsonline.com/graphics/packer/img/insider/feb03/hadl-trade-file.jpg

http://www2.jsonline.com/packer/image/hist/delgazio.jpg

[ND72]

I'll be wearing my #12 tomorrow to camp...

and DAMN, Jeremy Thompson looks like a football player.

[Joemailman]

JSO blog on evening practice and other matters

http://blogs.jsonline.com/packers/

[BallHawk]

What's with all the #12 jerseys?

Zeke Bratkowski? Lynn Dickey? John Hadl? Jim Del Gaizo?

You failed to mention TJ Rubley.

Jackass, show some class.

[motife]

What's with all the #12 jerseys?

Zeke Bratkowski? Lynn Dickey? John Hadl? Jim Del Gaizo?

You failed to mention TJ Rubley.

Jackass, show some class.

Yes, you are correct sir. Sorry...

Here he is during one of the most disastrous plays in Packers history.

http://graphics.jsonline.com/graphics/packer/img/insider/oct03/tjrubley-file.jpg

[HarveyWallbangers]

Wrong thread.

[Guiness]

Anybody else wondering if that bike Jolly rode on survived the trip?

[bobblehead]

Was it just me or did it look like BJack was riding that bike right into donald lee's back when he could have easily turned right into an open lane??

[BallHawk]

Anybody else wondering if that bike Jolly rode on survived the trip?

I'd think it survived, but I'm wondering if he hid any codeine in the wheels. :shock:

[boiga]

I didn't see any Dr. Pepper in the bottle holder, so we should be cool.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I didn't see any Dr. Pepper in the bottle holder, so we should be cool.

Does Dr. Pepper come in a bottle?

[Iron Mike]

Does Dr. Pepper come in a bottle?

I guess that's why he and Mrs. Pepper don't have any children.

(Thanks for the softball)

[GBRulz]

That's mah man, Ruvell. :D

I took these just for your, BH !!!!

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e189/gbrulz/IMG_0347.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e189/gbrulz/IMG_0348.jpg

[boiga]

Day two: Williams, Pickett and Harrell are still out. Jon Ryan's having a good day (60 yrd punt with 4.75 hangtime)

Tory Humphrey sounds like he's gotten over his jitters. I'm really pulling for the guy.
-- During an early team drill, Aaron Rodgers connected with tight end Tory Humphrey on an impressive looking completion over the middle in tight coverage. Rodgers lofted the ball just past the outstretched hands of linebacker Abdul Hodge and into Humphrey’s waiting arms. http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/ic/blogs/insider/index.shtml


Edit: Also, Barbre is the starting left guard today instead of Colledge. It's probably the start of a rotation.

One more note: Blackmon has been getting the most reps at punt return for the last two days. Either his foot has healed or they aren't worried about it.

Edit 2:Crosby's still gold.

-Rodgers got tackled after making a long completion to Taj Smith, who later took out a referee after another long pass completion.

-C-wood intercepted Rodgers while he was being pressured by a Hawk blitz

[boiga]

Day Two Wrap up: http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/ic/blogs/insider/index.shtml

Apparently TE Evan Moore and WR Taj Smith looked great today. Who are these guys again?

Humphrey and Finley are still dropping balls. Abdul Hodge lost a bunch of coverage battles, And Bush can't catch an interception.

Also, Rodgers had a bad day (can you really blame him?)

[BallHawk]

And Bush can't catch an interception.

Nor can he fall on a fumble....

[BallHawk]

Here's the complete write-up from the GBPG....


* Aaron Rodgers was 16-for-21 passing during team (11-on-11 drills), but he admitted he didn't have his best practice as the team heavily worked third-down situations. During the blitz period, Rodgers was 2-for-5 with an interception and two overthrows. In team (11-on-11) periods near the end of practice, Rodgers threw a pair of passes that went through CB Jarrett Bush's hands. He also was flushed from the pocket on several occasions and got away with some ill-advised passes into double-coverage. And in 7-on-7 passing -- usually target practice for QBs -- Rodgers was 7-for-14. Basically, he looked like a guy on Day 2 of training camp.

* Elsewhere in the passing game, Brian Brohm was 8-for-12 and Matt Flynn 8-for-11. In 7-on-7, Brohm was 6-for-7 and Flynn 2-for-4.

* With Tramon Williams (hip flexor) sitting, Bush again worked as the No. 3 cornerback. Will Blackmon paired with Bush as the second team CBs.

* CB Charles Woodson, who intercepted Rodgers, almost had another during 7-on-7. Flynn was trying to throw a slant for Donald Driver, and Woodson once again cut underneath and deflected the throw.

* Undrafted rookie WR Taj Smith was invisible throughout offseason practices, but he stood out today. First, during the blitz drill, he had a great, sliding catch on a beautiful touch pass from Rodgers down the right sideline, just beyond Bush. In 7-on-7, Rodgers made another good throw and hit Smith down the left sideline on a go route. Smith finished with three catches in team drills, all from Rodgers.

* LB Desmond Bishop took a couple of plays off because of a bloody nose.

* GM Ted Thompson spent time on the sideline with both Mark Murphy, the team's president and CEO, and chief negotiator Russ Ball.

* There were roughly a half-dozen flags and, again, several presnap penalties.

* Dropping 'em like they're hot: Tory Humphrey, Jermichael Finley.

* With Ryan Pickett and Justin Harrell sidelined, DT Colin Cole is getting extended action with the first team, and he made a couple of notable stuffs today.

* Rookie TE Evan Moore had a couple of head-turning plays. He beat Abdul Hodge down the seam for a catch during 7-on-7 passing drills, and he made a nifty, one-handed grab in traffic on a low throw from Rodgers during a team period.

* Humphrey's long catch down the seam also came with Hodge in coverage. Hodge has a way to go to earn a roster spot and hasn't stood out in a positive way so far. However, he's on the No. 1 punt and punt return units. So are Desmond Bishop, Jason Hunter, Tracy White, Humphrey and Michael Montgomery. Pat Lee and Charlie Peprah are playing outside on both units.

* During the last team period, FB Ryan Powdrell and TEs Joey Haynos and Jermichael Finley opened with the starters. Later in the same period, DEs Jeremy Thompson and Jason Hunter got work with the No. 1 defense. Such mixing-and-matching is common during camp, but it's interesting nonetheless to see who gets the opportunities.

Wednesday is a two-practice day, with a shells session beginning at 8:45 a.m. and a padded workout at 6:30 p.m. As usual, keep it tuned here for updates throughout the action.

[Partial]

Evidently Aaron Rodgers was awful today per WSSP. I'm not surprised. He's about to lose his job if they let Favre compete.

[Bretsky]

Evidently Aaron Rodgers was awful today per WSSP. I'm not surprised. He's about to lose his job if they let Favre compete.


Rodgers knew what he was talking about a few months ago when he interviewed on the JIM ROME show and said even if Favre wanted to return we're moving on. The job is his barring a serious serious injury

[BallHawk]

Evidently Aaron Rodgers was awful today per WSSP. I'm not surprised. He's about to lose his job if they let Favre compete.

:trll: :trll: :trll:

[HarveyWallbangers]

I didn't hear anything that said he was awful. He was 16 for 21 with one pick. Scrutiny. Come on. Now, this is struggling.


Tarvaris Jackson wasn’t exactly sniper-accurate on Monday afternoon. In fact, he was extremely inconsistent. But that didn’t stop him from firing to Bernard Berrian again and again and again… Something Vikings fans can expect to see in the regular season as well.

With the team practicing in shorts after a full contact morning session, Jackson first found Berrian on the second play of 11-on-11 practice for a 30+ yard gain over two defenders.

About 30 minutes later, Jackson fired a 15-yard laser between and above a safety and a cornerback to Berrian, who reeled it in for a touchdown.

Jackson and Berrian hooked up a few more times as well, but when they weren’t making highlight reel plays they were instead struggling to figure out timing.

Twice during afternoon practice Marcus McCauley broke up passes from Jackson intended for Berrian. Jackson also threw a poor pass that was intercepted by Charles Gordon, and a few plays before that he mistimed a slant route, throwing a ball two yards behind Berrian.

Ten minutes after this chain of events, Jackson threw a jump ball to Robert Ferguson in the back of the endzone that was instead caught by Cedric Griffin.

“You just can’t do stuff like that,” Jackson said of the interceptions.

[boiga]

Thanks Harvey, that made me feel better.

More training camp stuff to keep the hope for actual football discussion alive:

www.greenbaypressgazette.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080729/PKR01/80729174/1954/PKR03
The Packers did not announce the move to reporters, but Harrell is on the PUP list on which players count against the 80-man roster.
......
Defensive tackle Ryan Pickett (hamstring) was placed on a non-football injury list. Pickett has yet to take part in a training camp practice.

Surprisingly, safety Aaron Rouse also was on the non-football injury list. He has been practicing the last two days but had an issue with his back during Monday’s run test.
......
Williams injured his left hip flexor late in the Packers’ first practice of training camp Monday morning. He tried to take part in practice on Monday night but was too sore. It appears he likely will be out until at least Friday; the Packers don’t practice on Thursday.

www.greenbaypressgazette.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080729/PKR01/80729171/1954/PKR03 Thumbs up

Success in the one-on-one pass rushing drill doesn’t always carry over to live football, so it might be wise to look skeptically at the domination by third-year defensive end Jason Hunter during training camp.
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During the first three practices of camp, Hunter has won six of his 13 reps during the drill. At least two others could be called a draw in which he got significant push but probably wouldn’t have gotten to the quarterback. That’s a high percentage for any defensive end, especially one that hasn’t played much from scrimmage during his first two NFL seasons.

The 6-foot-4, 271-pounder from Appalachian State came into the NFL as an undrafted free agent with a reputation for being a good speed rusher. While that hasn’t translated into pro success, it has allowed him to be a special-teams standout. He has yet to find a regular spot in the defensive line rotation; he has yet to record a sack in a regular-season game and he’s probably in for a battle to win a roster spot.

However, if he continues to win one-on-one battles, he might get a chance for increased playing time. On Tuesday, he even won a rep from the defensive tackle position by smoking guard Daryn Colledge with a quick, inside move.
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On the other hand, when a player flops in the one-on-one drill, it can be a sign of trouble. There’s reason to be concerned about the play of rookie tackle Breno Giacomini. He has experienced his share of problems.

The 6-foot-7, 311-pound fifth-round draft pick has a losing record (7-9) during the drill. Offensive linemen should win more than half of their reps.

It’s too early to say that Giacomini can’t pass block NFL players, but he’s struggling.

However, it should be noted he said he’s going through a significant change in technique that he said differs greatly from what he was taught in college at Louisville. Still, Giacomini has shown a troubling knack for giving up too much ground early, which makes it easy for defensive ends to push him back.

If Hunter keeps this up, he might be our answer for the DL difficulties.

Too bad about Harrell though. I wonder if he'll be put on IR to make room for Favre.

[Bretsky]

Harrell on PUP; terrible news

[Partial]

Evidently Aaron Rodgers was awful today per WSSP. I'm not surprised. He's about to lose his job if they let Favre compete.


Rodgers knew what he was talking about a few months ago when he interviewed on the JIM ROME show and said even if Favre wanted to return we're moving on. The job is his barring a serious serious injury

I'm sure, he probably did the crap that Favre is doing now and threatened to publically demand a trade. TT, knowing he invested 3 years and a first round pick and has probably a year or two of Favre left, said screw it lets go with the Kid and see what he can do.

GBM has heard from A-Rod that he'd demand a trade this year if he wasn't starting.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Harrell on PUP; terrible news

Time to move Tony Moll to D tackle

[BallHawk]

GBM has heard from A-Rod that he'd demand a trade this year if he wasn't starting.

With all due respect, if the mainstream media is screwing things up, sorry if I'm more than skeptical of a poster on an internet message board.

[Pacopete4]

Harrell on PUP; terrible news

Time to move Tony Moll to D tackle


I just talked to my dad's friend who is good buddies with Pepper Burruss and he told him not to worry about Harrell, that he will not be out for the season

[boiga]

I just talked to my dad's friend who is good buddies with Pepper Burruss and he told him not to worry about Harrell, that he will not be out for the season If true, that'd be great.

Then again, I'm less worried about our D-line today than yesterday. According to JSO, defense won the one-on-one drills today 15-6-1. KGB even pulled a nifty move and got around Clifton.

It seems we might have more depth there than we had thought.

[Pacopete4]

I just talked to my dad's friend who is good buddies with Pepper Burruss and he told him not to worry about Harrell, that he will not be out for the season If true, that'd be great.

Then again, I'm less worried about our D-line today than yesterday. According to JSO, defense won the one-on-one drills today 15-6-1. KGB even pulled a nifty move and got around Clifton.

It seems we might have more depth there than we had thought.


I screwed that up.. its my "Friends Dad''... he is getting to be on the sidelines next week during one of the practices... lucky bastard, I am going down the same time and I am pleading with him to hook me up so we'll see how that works

[bobblehead]

Evidently Aaron Rodgers was awful today per WSSP. I'm not surprised. He's about to lose his job if they let Favre compete.


Rodgers knew what he was talking about a few months ago when he interviewed on the JIM ROME show and said even if Favre wanted to return we're moving on. The job is his barring a serious serious injury

I'm sure, he probably did the crap that Favre is doing now and threatened to publically demand a trade. TT, knowing he invested 3 years and a first round pick and has probably a year or two of Favre left, said screw it lets go with the Kid and see what he can do.

GBM has heard from A-Rod that he'd demand a trade this year if he wasn't starting.

You know, you must be right, it makes perfect sense. TT is gettiing bullied by rodgers, but is holding his ground against favre...it makes so much sense to me now. After hearing this I'm behind arod all the way....if he can do this much better job of controlling TT he is bound to be a hall of famer.

[ND72]

I was at camp yesterday, so I'll fill in a couple things.

#1 - ALL of our QB's looked shaky yesterday, with Rodgers being the best of the group without question. The reason they were shaky...the defense looks REALLY good.

#2 - Tory Humphrey looked really good...BUT, if they were hitting, Humphrey would be on the DL, cause Brohm was hanging him out to dry all day. Bigby had to drop to a knee one time because he would have lit the crap out of him on a seem route if he hadn't.

#3 - Kampmann is here to work

#4 - Rodgers has great command of the team. You could see his leadership among all the guys.

#5 - All of the coaches were keeping tempo, and doing lots of yelling yesterday. You could hear all of them at many times, especially McCarthy.

#6 - All of the 'BRINGBACKBRETT' signs are dumb. I heard Tauscher making fun of all the people who had them. Also heard Chuck Woodson say "are those people here to cheer for us, or just for him".

#7 - I got interviewed by NBC 26 yesterday, for the only reason that I was that guy wearing a Rodgers jersey on purpose. :lol:

#8 - I FINALLY got my custom made black Under Armour helmet signed by AJ Hawk.

[ND72]

I just talked to my dad's friend who is good buddies with Pepper Burruss and he told him not to worry about Harrell, that he will not be out for the season If true, that'd be great.

Then again, I'm less worried about our D-line today than yesterday. According to JSO, defense won the one-on-one drills today 15-6-1. KGB even pulled a nifty move and got around Clifton.

It seems we might have more depth there than we had thought.

As a former OL guy in college, I gotta tell you those 1 on 1 drills are crap, and designed for the defense to win.

And just so every knows also, our "starting OL" guys, they were 4-1-1 in 1on1 drills. backups were 2-14. (we counted as well)

[Patler]

As a former OL guy in college, I gotta tell you those 1 on 1 drills are crap, and designed for the defense to win.

And just so every knows also, our "starting OL" guys, they were 4-1-1 in 1on1 drills. backups were 2-14. (we counted as well)

Who was in your group of starters, Colledge or Barbre, or did you include both for the total of 6? What did you think of the competition between the two?

[ND72]

Barbre, because he was with the 1's all day yesterday.

I'm excited for that competition. I've liked Barbre since his draft, he was high on my board for lineman....I've also liked Colledge, just don't think he's a guard.

[Patler]

How did Sitton look?

I have a feeling in about two years the center of the line might be Barbre-Spitz-Sitton, but of course Sitton is still a real guess at this point.

[ND72]

Sitton got worked most of the day. Our backups looked like backups. Our top 6 really stood out. our next "best" that stood out was Giacomini, and he was eh at best. Scott Wells looks really good. He went against Cole & Muir in team time, neither did anything. Not that they are our best DT's, but they're all we got right now. People don't seem to know or recognize that Wells was our top lineman last year. I read that on the season he scored a 98% (OL have a scoring grade), Clifton, our Pro Bowler, scored a 95%.

[Patler]

Scott Wells looks really good. He went against Cole & Muir in team time, neither did anything. Not that they are our best DT's, but they're all we got right now. People don't seem to know or recognize that Wells was our top lineman last year. I read that on the season he scored a 98% (OL have a scoring grade), Clifton, our Pro Bowler, scored a 95%.

I am a Wells fan actually, always have been, but even the coaches have now admitted that with Wells they are limited because of his size (which I think is a lot smaller than the roster indicates). Campen (I think) said in an article a couple weeks ago that they now realize that Wells can not be asked to handle big DTs without help, and they are making adjustments this year because of it.

Apparently, in the couple games he played, Spitz impressed them all at center. When he was drafted, most said center is where he would eventually end up. If two other guards really catch on in a couple years, I think Spitz could end up at center, giving them a big, tough middle of the line with a bit of attitude.

[Fritz]

Do not forget "Orange" Junius Coston. This is the year, Patler! He's matured, gotten stronger and smarter - the next Earl Dotson.

[boiga]

I was at camp yesterday, so I'll fill in a couple things.

#1 - ALL of our QB's looked shaky yesterday, with Rodgers being the best of the group without question. The reason they were shaky...the defense looks REALLY good.

#2 - Tory Humphrey looked really good...BUT, if they were hitting, Humphrey would be on the DL, cause Brohm was hanging him out to dry all day. Bigby had to drop to a knee one time because he would have lit the crap out of him on a seem route if he hadn't.

#3 - Kampmann is here to work

#4 - Rodgers has great command of the team. You could see his leadership among all the guys.

#5 - All of the coaches were keeping tempo, and doing lots of yelling yesterday. You could hear all of them at many times, especially McCarthy.

#6 - All of the 'BRINGBACKBRETT' signs are dumb. I heard Tauscher making fun of all the people who had them. Also heard Chuck Woodson say "are those people here to cheer for us, or just for him".

#7 - I got interviewed by NBC 26 yesterday, for the only reason that I was that guy wearing a Rodgers jersey on purpose. :lol:

#8 - I FINALLY got my custom made black Under Armour helmet signed by AJ Hawk.Wow, ND72 thanks for the details. I'm really liking what I'm hearing from TC this year. I'm glad Woodson and the others aren't going easy on our offense. I saw the picture of his diving interception in front of jennings and figured that there are maybe two other guys in the league who could have gotten that ball. It's great training for Rodgers to deal with defensive backs of that caliber.

Also, I feel for Humphrey. To have just made it back from injury and have Bigby almost tear you in two.... that had to have freaked him out. Gotta love Atari.

Also, congrats on the helmet.

[Patler]

Do not forget "Orange" Junius Coston. This is the year, Patler! He's matured, gotten stronger and smarter - the next Earl Dotson.

I'm afraid he might follow the path of my buddy Atlas Herrion! :lol:

[mission]

More info like this.

Less info like Brett.

Thanks.

[ND72]

I was at camp yesterday, so I'll fill in a couple things.

#1 - ALL of our QB's looked shaky yesterday, with Rodgers being the best of the group without question. The reason they were shaky...the defense looks REALLY good.

#2 - Tory Humphrey looked really good...BUT, if they were hitting, Humphrey would be on the DL, cause Brohm was hanging him out to dry all day. Bigby had to drop to a knee one time because he would have lit the crap out of him on a seem route if he hadn't.

#3 - Kampmann is here to work

#4 - Rodgers has great command of the team. You could see his leadership among all the guys.

#5 - All of the coaches were keeping tempo, and doing lots of yelling yesterday. You could hear all of them at many times, especially McCarthy.

#6 - All of the 'BRINGBACKBRETT' signs are dumb. I heard Tauscher making fun of all the people who had them. Also heard Chuck Woodson say "are those people here to cheer for us, or just for him".

#7 - I got interviewed by NBC 26 yesterday, for the only reason that I was that guy wearing a Rodgers jersey on purpose. :lol:

#8 - I FINALLY got my custom made black Under Armour helmet signed by AJ Hawk.Wow, ND72 thanks for the details. I'm really liking what I'm hearing from TC this year. I'm glad Woodson and the others aren't going easy on our offense. I saw the picture of his diving interception in front of jennings and figured that there are maybe two other guys in the league who could have gotten that ball. It's great training for Rodgers to deal with defensive backs of that caliber.

Also, I feel for Humphrey. To have just made it back from injury and have Bigby almost tear you in two.... that had to have freaked him out. Gotta love Atari.

Also, congrats on the helmet.

When Chuck made that INT...all of us in our bleacher all kind of looked at eachother like, wait, did he just...wow.

[ND72]

OH...almost forgot. Saw the FUNNIEST drill I've ever seen in my life. Offensive Lineman. they put a football on a big mat, then they put all the other free pads/dummies they had near by...4 lineman at a time, laying on their backs, helmet toward the mat....had to dig through and find the ball, other 3 did 5 pushups for "losing"...it was seriously hilarious to watch, but also, had to be tough to do (as in tiring).

[GBRulz]

GBM has heard from A-Rod that he'd demand a trade this year if he wasn't starting.

With all due respect, if the mainstream media is screwing things up, sorry if I'm more than skeptical of a poster on an internet message board.

It's ok, I don't blame you for being skeptical. I mean some people on here lie about the stupidest things, gets old after a while.

I stand behind what I said though ..... Aaron told one of my best friends that if he wasn't starting this year, he would demand a trade elsewhere.

IMO, even if Favre never retired, we still would have drafted two QB's this year.

[HarveyWallbangers]

IMO, even if Favre never retired, we still would have drafted two QB's this year.

Why? So they could cut one? I could see them taking a guy that has a chance to compete with Rodgers for the starting spot in two years, but drafting a guy like Flynn with Favre, Rodgers, and Brohm on the roster would seem like a wasted draft pick. Teams don't carry 4 QBs often. I'm sure Favre would have been really happy about that--since he wasn't too happy with the Rodgers pick.

[GBRulz]

IMO, even if Favre never retired, we still would have drafted two QB's this year.

Why? So they could cut one? I could see them taking a guy that has a chance to compete with Rodgers for the starting spot in two years, but drafting a guy like Flynn with Favre, Rodgers, and Brohm on the roster would seem like a wasted draft pick. Teams don't carry 4 QBs often. I'm sure Favre would have been really happy about that--since he wasn't too happy with the Rodgers pick.

Yes. It's not like it would be the first time a drafted QB gets cut. We have had 4 QB's in camp many times.

I think Favre was more upset about the Rodgers pick because it didn't address an immediate need for the team vs. him feeling threatened for his own position.

[BallHawk]

I think Favre was more upset about the Rodgers pick because it didn't address an immediate need for the team vs. him feeling threatened for his own position.

In a way, Favre brought that pick upon himself. If Favre had said "I'm playing for "X" more years, than maybe that pic doesn't happen. Sure, you can argue that TT took the BPA, but if Favre had said "I'm playing 'til 2007" than maybe TT goes after a different player, knowing he can pick up a QB next year or the year after that.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Yes. It's not like it would be the first time a drafted QB gets cut. We have had 4 QB's in camp many times.

Those drafted QBs that cut had at least had a shot at making the roster. With Favre, Rodgers, and Brohm on the roster already, there's no chance of him making the roster--unless there's an injury. Even if the second QB had outplayed Brohm, he wouldn't make the team over a 2nd round pick. To me, that would be the same as drafting another kicker when you have Mason Crosby. Could it happen? Possibly. Likely? Far from it. I doubt they would have drafted Flynn if they had Favre, Rodgers, and Brohm on the roster already.

[GBRulz]

I think Favre was more upset about the Rodgers pick because it didn't address an immediate need for the team vs. him feeling threatened for his own position.

In a way, Favre brought that pick upon himself. If Favre had said "I'm playing for "X" more years, than maybe that pic doesn't happen. Sure, you can argue that TT took the BPA, but if Favre had said "I'm playing 'til 2007" than maybe TT goes after a different player, knowing he can pick up a QB next year or the year after that.

I dunno, BH. We could start another whole discussion here on trying to figure out TT's draft strategy !!

[HarveyWallbangers]

I think Favre was more upset about the Rodgers pick because it didn't address an immediate need for the team vs. him feeling threatened for his own position.

Which is a joke--since he was the one that had been playing the retirement waffle game for a few years already. What's the team supposed to do? Not plan for the future at the game's most important position when their starter thinks about retirement every offseason. If the team hadn't started planning for the future, then Thompson would have been blasted. (He can't win when it comes to Favre.) That picked worked out perfectly (well, without this circus). Rodgers sits on the bench for 3 years and when Favre does retire, we have his replacement ready to go.

[cpk1994]

Yes. It's not like it would be the first time a drafted QB gets cut. We have had 4 QB's in camp many times.

Those drafted QBs that cut had at least had a shot at making the roster. With Favre, Rodgers, and Brohm on the roster already, there's no chance of him making the roster--unless there's an injury. Even if the second QB had outplayed Brohm, he wouldn't make the team over a 2nd round pick. To me, that would be the same as drafting another kicker when you have Mason Crosby. Could it happen? Possibly. Likely? Far from it. I doubt they would have drafted Flynn if they had Favre, Rodgers, and Brohm on the roster already.I think you could have use a better analogy than kickers, as Crosby was drafted last year and he was kept over Dave Rayner.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I think you could have use a better analogy than kickers, as Crosby was drafted last year and he was kept over Dave Rayner.

No. Rayner wasn't a good kicker. He was average. Drafting somebody to compete with him was the right thing. Crosby is a good kicker. Drafting somebody to take over if he got injured would have been silly.

[The Leaper]

I doubt they would have drafted Flynn if they had Favre, Rodgers, and Brohm on the roster already.

Perhaps...but it is a damn 7th round pick. The chances of getting anyone who would even make the roster are slim to none.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Funny how people can read whatever they want into a quote. What do you read into this quote?


"All I know is, I just want to win football games," right tackle Mark Tauscher said. "And right now, Aaron Rodgers is our starting quarterback, and I feel great about it."

[The Leaper]

I read that all Tausch wants to do is win football games. Who the starting QB will be is outside his control, and he'll be happy with whoever the team goes with.

[cpk1994]

GBM has heard from A-Rod that he'd demand a trade this year if he wasn't starting.

With all due respect, if the mainstream media is screwing things up, sorry if I'm more than skeptical of a poster on an internet message board.

It's ok, I don't blame you for being skeptical. I mean some people on here lie about the stupidest things, gets old after a while.

I stand behind what I said though ..... Aaron told one of my best friends that if he wasn't starting this year, he would demand a trade elsewhere.

IMO, even if Favre never retired, we still would have drafted two QB's this year.Is your best friend Favre's pilot? :lol:

[Patler]

I think Favre was more upset about the Rodgers pick because it didn't address an immediate need for the team vs. him feeling threatened for his own position.

Which is a joke--since he was the one that had been playing the retirement waffle game for a few years already. What's the team supposed to do? Not plan for the future at the game's most important position when their starter thinks about retirement every offseason. If the team hadn't started planning for the future, then Thompson would have been blasted. (He can't win when it comes to Favre.) That picked worked out perfectly (well, without this circus). Rodgers sits on the bench for 3 years and when Favre does retire, we have his replacement ready to go.

That is absolutely true. People also forget the "draft experts" had predicted for at least two years before that that Sherman would pick a QB to begin grooming as Favre's replacement since he could go at any time. Sherman even admitted that he was very interested in Losman, and as much as said he would have taken him if he had been available.

The Rodgers pick has always seemed to irk Favre, but to wait to find a replacement until after Favre retired would have been foolish.

[The Leaper]

The Rodgers pick has always seemed to irk Favre, but to wait to find a replacement until after Favre retired would have been foolish.

I think it irked Favre more at the time than it does now.

McNabb was irked when the Eagles took Kolb. Jones was irked when the Packers took Nelson. That is simply the way it goes...players aren't happy when other guys are brought in as "competition", but business is business and the players understand that as well, even if they still don't like it.

[Patler]

The Rodgers pick has always seemed to irk Favre, but to wait to find a replacement until after Favre retired would have been foolish.

I think it irked Favre more at the time than it does now.

McNabb was irked when the Eagles took Kolb. Jones was irked when the Packers took Nelson. That is simply the way it goes...players aren't happy when other guys are brought in as "competition", but business is business and the players understand that as well, even if they still don't like it.

I don't disagree, but the big difference is that Favre had been "threatening" to retire for a couple years. He should have expected that a replacement QB would be a priority for GB. Neither McNabb nor Jones have indicated they were thinking of retiring anytime soon.

[boiga]

More training camp stuff!

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/ic/blogs/insider/index.shtml

-Crosby misses two field goals, his first of TC.

-Brohm had the deep ball accuracy, getting it in the net. Rodgers and Flynn both grazed the side.

-Brohm had a lousy team passing period, getting 1 picked off and two more that should have been.

-James Jones got the ball stripped by Nick Collins, Hawk recovered. JJ really has to work on ball security, especially when we play chicago again.

[BallHawk]

Safety Nick Collins stripped James Jones of the ball after a catch with A.J. Hawk recovering the fumble.

Wow, Collins made a play!

Now if he could only cover worth a damn we could start him.

[GBRulz]

Is your best friend Favre's pilot? :lol:

HAHA - that idiot banned me from Favre's website!!

[HarveyWallbangers]

Hopefully, this isn't being said just to help his confidence. The article intimates the backups have struggled--with Brohm maybe struggling more than Flynn.

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=778680


Mild-mannered offensive coordinator Joe Philbin bristled just a little Wednesday when he was asked if quarterback Aaron Rodgers had been playing adequately after the first four practices at the Green Bay Packers' training camp.

"Hell, yeah," Philbin said. "He's protecting the ball. He's throwing the ball well. He's handling the offense. He's checking plays. Absolutely."


One of his teammates, fullback John Kuhn, said Rodgers had made few mental mistakes, at least as far as the players can see.

"He's been on his game," Kuhn said. "You could tell from Day One in March. He was coming in and he was ready for his time."

Kuhn sees the offense evolving to fit Rodgers' strength. He is dashing about the pocket, seems to be a fairly accurate deep-ball thrower on the move and is looking to run when the protection caves.

"He's very quick and good on the run," Kuhn said. "We're giving him the ability with run-pass option. Get outside. Get deep. It's pretty much just him getting out there and just seeing the field. 'A-Rod's' a terrific athlete and he's got such a strong arm."


For his part, quarterbacks coach Tom Clements said Rodgers was having an "outstanding" camp.

[boiga]

So it's Flynn following in Favre's footsteps and not Brohm?


* Backup quarterback Matt Flynn completed a pass to himself. His attempt to throw was batted at the line of scrimmage by Daniel Muir and fell back into Flynn’s hands during a team drill.
http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/ic/blogs/insider/index.shtml

Also:
9:52 a.m.
Aaron Rodgers won the deep ball accuracy drill this morning. All three quarterbacks attempted several passes from between 45 and 50 yards, aiming at a net. Rodgers was the only one to successfully hit the bull’s-eye.

Go Rodgers!

Edit:
10:21 a.m.
During a two-minute drill, Aaron Rodgers put the ball right on the money on what should have been a 32-yard touchdown pass with 6 seconds remaining. However, receiver James Jones, who momentarily had the ball in his grasp, was stripped by safety Atari Bigby and the ball fell incomplete. D'oh. I'm starting to get seriously worried about jones hands. This is the second time in TC that he's gotten stripped of the ball. On the other hand, Bigby's coverage skills seem to have increased.

[boiga]

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/ic/blogs/insider/index.shtml


McCarthy not too concerned about injuries; has no Favre news
After today’s practice, coach Mike McCarthy said this of team injuries:

Cornerback Will Blackmon is dealing with soreness in his chronically injured foot. DeShawn Wynn has a slight concussion and Korey Hall has a knee strain.

McCarthy did not express much concern about any of the injuries.

The Blackmon status is at least somewhat alarming because the foot has troubled him throughout his young NFL career. McCarthy said the report from athletic trainer Pepper Burruss was positive and that Blackmon feels good.

Korey Hall is day to day, while Wynn is being evaluated after sustaining the injury Wednesday night.

UPDATE: Blackmon said he just got the morning off because of the pounding of the first three days and he expects to practice tonight.

Hall said his injury is mild and is hopeful his knee will loosen up so he can practice on Saturday.

Wynn said he’s been experiencing increasing dizziness throughout camp and finally brought it to the attention of trainers. He’s taking the concussion test twice a day and will continue to do so until he’s cleared to return.

* McCarthy said he was pleased with the mechanics of two-minute drills the offense ran at the end of today’s practice even though production was only OK. Neither the first- nor second-team offense got in the end zone.

* McCarthy said Thursday’s off-day guest speaker, former Bush White House press secretary Ari Fleischer was “very insightful” and provided encouragement with how the team is handling the Brett Favre situation.

UPDATE: Quarterback Aaron Rodgers aid he pulled aside Fleischer after his speech and asked him a couple questions. Rogers declined to say what those questions were.

* McCarthy offered no update on Favre and said he hasn’t spoken to the retired quarterback. He confirmed reports that the $20 million personal services contract the Packers are discussing with Favre first was discussed when he retired in March. He said he last spoke with Favre on July 19 at Hall of Fame banquet.

* Linebacker Brady Poppinga spent time working at left end during today’s practice. McCarthy said that’s a reflection of defensive coordinator Bob Sanders expansion of his scheme, but that the implementation of Poppinga as a hand-down rusher – or any other unique sub-packages -- is something that would be based on matchups.


I really hope there is nothing serious about any of those injuries. Also, Poppinga at left end??? How the heck is that going to work? I have trouble imagining a situation where Brady would perform better there than Kampman

[boiga]

Sorry for the triple post all... okay no I'm not...

Evening practice: Rodgers sharp in 2-minute drill
7:57 p.m.

The Packers' No. 1 offense looked impressive in a 7-on-7 two-minute drill.

Aaron Rodgers directed a 7-play, 60-yard touchdown drive, which culminated with a 20-yard scoring strike to Ruvell Martin with under 10 seconds remaining on the clock. Rodgers completed 5 of 7 passes on the drive, including one spike to stop the clock.

The Packers' reserve offense wasn't as successful on their turn. That drive ended when Aaron Rouse intercepted a Matt Flynn pass in the end zone intended for Jordy Nelson. http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/ic/blogs/insider/index.shtml

Go Rodgers!!! I knew he had it in him. Also, Ruvell's being a stud. Considering that Jones has had the ball stripped from him twice during TC, I'm starting to imagine that he could push for the 3rd WR spot. Of course, it's not exactly a fair competition considering that Ruvell is A-rod's best friend on the team and Rodgers is openly pulling for him.

Rouse is still a ball hawk. Our safeties have been making some serious plays so far in TC.

[Joemailman]

I really hope there is nothing serious about any of those injuries. Also, Poppinga at left end??? How the heck is that going to work? I have trouble imagining a situation where Brady would perform better there than Kampman

Kampman would be better if he could take a few more plays off. Popp played DE at BYU, and does have some pass rushing skills.

[Fritz]

You sure that stuff on Wynn isn't from last year? Vague, hard to pin injuries - sore calf or hamstring, dizziness.

By DeShawn. Maybe you can find a job working for Travis Jervey.

[HarveyWallbangers]

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/nfcnorth


A few Packers practice observations
Kevin Seifert, ESPN.com

GREEN BAY, Wis. -- While ostensibly serving duty on Favre Watch this week, we've also taken in all six Packers practices to date. (What? Could an actual football post be forthcoming)? You'll find that we're not big believers in drawing conclusions from practice observations, but nonetheless, a few things have caught our eye.

Among them:

* By our count, the Packers had a half-dozen false start or offside penalties during team drills on the first day of practice. Since then, we've heard at least one Packers player or coach mention the term "pre-snap penalties" every day. All teams emphasize the elimination of those mistakes, but it is a particular point of emphasis for the Packers' offense as it transitions to quarterback Aaron Rodgers. It might sound simple, but lineman, receivers and backs are getting used to a new way of calling plays as well as a new cadence. That's what training camp is for.

* Rodgers is still establishing timing with his receivers and has thrown his share of off-target passes. But one thing is clear: Three years as an apprentice has left him with an exceptional understanding of the offense. Over six practices, it would be hard to pick out more than three or four plays where Rodgers seemed unsure where to throw the ball. For a young quarterback, knowing where the open receiver will be is more than half the battle.

* Rodgers throws the ball with an easy touch. Friday morning, he lofted a perfect goal-line fade pass to receiver Ruvell Martin. Martin made a leaping grab in the corner of the end zone.

* Coach Mike McCarthy and others have offered layers of praise for second-year running back Brandon Jackson, who is working with the first team while Ryan Grant holds out. Some of that is probably designed to push Grant into camp, but at least part of it is genuine. Jackson added eight pounds of muscle in the offseason and still has a good burst at the line of scrimmage. He might eventually be a perfect third-down back, but for now the Packers could do a lot worse with him as the starter.

* Admittedly, we've watched much more offense than defense. But we haven't seen a ton of evidence to support the commonly-held view that the Packers would blitz more this season. Of course, they probably wouldn't show too much of that during an open practice. We did notice linebacker Brady Poppinga working a bit Friday as a pass-rushing defensive end, as promised.

* People always like to know about sleepers, so one player that has caught our eye is third-year tight end Tory Humphrey, who spent last season on injured reserve. Humphrey has pretty soft hands and seems to know how to get open. The Packers' starter figures to be Donald Lee, and the team also used a third-round draft pick this spring on Jermichael Finley, but Humphrey would seem to be a strong candidate for a roster spot.

[Lurker64]

By DeShawn. Maybe you can find a job working for Travis Jervey.

Jervey was much, much better on special teams.

[Fritz]

That's why he will only be able to be Jervey's employee.

[BallHawk]

Also, Ruvell's being a stud. Considering that Jones has had the ball stripped from him twice during TC, I'm starting to imagine that he could push for the 3rd WR spot. Of course, it's not exactly a fair competition considering that Ruvell is A-rod's best friend on the team and Rodgers is openly pulling for him.

I said this earlier (Ruvell being a #3) and was considered crazy, but I'm starting to believe it. Yes, Ruvell does have an advantage because he's great friends with A-Rod, but that makes it better.

Ruvell is going to turn heads this season. I know it's only TC, but for the people that doubted if he would even make the team......put some of that crow pie in the oven. :D

[HarveyWallbangers]

Jordy Nelson is getting positive press, as well.

[Bretsky]

Also, Ruvell's being a stud. Considering that Jones has had the ball stripped from him twice during TC, I'm starting to imagine that he could push for the 3rd WR spot. Of course, it's not exactly a fair competition considering that Ruvell is A-rod's best friend on the team and Rodgers is openly pulling for him.

I said this earlier (Ruvell being a #3) and was considered crazy, but I'm starting to believe it. Yes, Ruvell does have an advantage because he's great friends with A-Rod, but that makes it better.

Ruvell is going to turn heads this season. I know it's only TC, but for the people that doubted if he would even make the team......put some of that crow pie in the oven. :D

Be disappointing if your favorite Martin is #3 cause that means Jones is taking a step back and Nelson is coming along slow

[RashanGary]

Also, Ruvell's being a stud. Considering that Jones has had the ball stripped from him twice during TC, I'm starting to imagine that he could push for the 3rd WR spot. Of course, it's not exactly a fair competition considering that Ruvell is A-rod's best friend on the team and Rodgers is openly pulling for him.

I said this earlier (Ruvell being a #3) and was considered crazy, but I'm starting to believe it. Yes, Ruvell does have an advantage because he's great friends with A-Rod, but that makes it better.

Ruvell is going to turn heads this season. I know it's only TC, but for the people that doubted if he would even make the team......put some of that crow pie in the oven. :D

I really didn't like him last year and I did not think he would make the team but I'm changing my tune. He looks like a different player right now. He's making more plays than ever before. I think the Packers might have the deepest WR corp in the NFL right now.

[boiga]

Here's the new 3-3 nickel formation according to the official site: http://www.packers.com/news/stories/2008/08/01/2/

A different look
One variation of the nickel defense the Packers have employed on occasion uses three defensive linemen and three linebackers in front of the five defensive backs (instead of the customary four down linemen and two linebackers).

The defense tried it for a few snaps on Friday, with Brady Poppinga as the third linebacker lining up in a pass-rush position on the outside

So. with Brady as one of the Linemen, we have four LB's on the field... Have you guys seen this before? Could it work on a passing down?

[SnakeLH2006]

I hope Jolly doesn't get ticketed for SUI--Snapping Under the Influence.

Jolly needs some pills to calm down....DAMN FDA regulations. Don't you know how valuable a long-snapper is to the NFL/teams/TV markets/fans/us???? :shock:

[HarveyWallbangers]

The defense tried it for a few snaps on Friday, with Brady Poppinga as the third linebacker lining up in a pass-rush position on the outside

So. with Brady as one of the Linemen, we have four LB's on the field... Have you guys seen this before? Could it work on a passing down?

The article you quote says Brady is the third LB--which means there aren't four LBs on the field. Three DL and three LBs, but one of the LBs is up at the LOS.

[HarveyWallbangers]

From today's training camp report:


Defensive play of the day
In the final team drill of practice, QB Aaron Rodgers hit WR James Jones on a short crossing route, but CB Will Blackmon poked the ball out from behind and S Aaron Rouse recovered and started running the other way.

Jones fumbled again. He keeps this up and Jordy Nelson is going to take the #3 WR job from him.

[boiga]

Yeah, I saw that too... I'm disappointed because I thought Jones had gotten over that. McCarthy needs to put him through the ball stripping drill three time a practice until the season starts.

[Gunakor]

No disrespect to JJ, but I'm seriously hoping that Jordy Nelson wins the #3 spot.

[boiga]

I would prefer if Jones kept the ball in his hands, and thereby earned the third slot. I mean, the guy has some major skills in the open field. Remember that run in the first Vikings game? Here's what JSO says about him:
He might not be a down-the-field burner, but WR James Jones is very impressive getting off the ball and then making moves to get open in the 8-15 yard range. I don't know if there's a cornerback on the Packers that can cover him in that range. http://blogs.jsonline.com/packers/archive/2008/08/01/training-camp-practice-7-evening.aspx

Jones will be a major asset for us if he can hold on to the ball.

[Gunakor]

I would prefer if Jones kept the ball in his hands, and thereby earned the third slot. I mean, the guy has some major skills in the open field. Remember that run in the first Vikings game? Here's what JSO says about him:
He might not be a down-the-field burner, but WR James Jones is very impressive getting off the ball and then making moves to get open in the 8-15 yard range. I don't know if there's a cornerback on the Packers that can cover him in that range. http://blogs.jsonline.com/packers/archive/2008/08/01/training-camp-practice-7-evening.aspx

Jones will be a major asset for us if he can hold on to the ball.


Agreed. But that entire description of Jones is also an accurate description of Nelson. If they are about even talent wise then you have to go with the one who doesn't turn the ball over. If JJ can learn to hang onto the ball, it'll be a fierce competition between the two for the #3 spot.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Bad day for the offense. Bring back Brett!
:D


Some blocking would be nice. The Packers did a lot of work on third downs and that would be all well and good but the offensive line didn't offer up the quarterbacks much protection against the defense's blitz schemes. That's probably why McCarthy held the offense after practice to go over some things. "Offensively we didn't start the practice very well, so we went back and repeated the team run and the blitz period," McCarthy said.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Apparently, Johnny Jolly was a big reason for the offense's problems. James Jones' got the thumb down for his fumbling. Rodgers was 8 for 13.

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080802/PKR01/80802072/1058/PKR01


Thumbs up

Anyone who wondered why the Packers have been so high on Johnny Jolly should have been at Saturday’s practice.

In full pads on the hottest day of training camp when a player of Jolly’s size easily could have dogged it, the 6-foot-3, 320-pound defensive tackle was all over the field making plays.

On the first play of team drills, Jolly forced his way through the middle of the line of scrimmage and intercepted an Aaron Rodgers screen pass that was intended for running back Brandon Jackson. In the next team period, Jolly shed a blocker and used a strong backside pursuit to cut down Jackson for no gain on a running play.

Jolly’s emergence before a serious shoulder injury cut short his season last year was a major reason the Packers decided to trade away defensive tackle Corey Williams. However, there’s lingering concern that Jolly could face a league suspension because of his arrest this summer on felony drug possession charges. The case is pending. Losing Jolly for any significant length of time could prove costly, especially if he plays like he did on Saturday.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Nice!


(Are you frustrated that it has dragged on and do you see an end in sight [to Grant's "holdout"]?)

Frustrated? I think Ari Fleischer would call that a bait question. No, it's a business matter.

Coach doesn't ever say anything bad about a player, but it sounds like Cullen is healthy. Hopefully, he can stay healthy all year.


(Do you think [Cullen] Jenkins is back like he was at camp, or is he still fighting through some of the injuries he had last year?)

He's definitely healthy, and you can see his explosion is definitely back. He played through that last year, with the bone bruise. I think he looks great. I think he's off to an excellent start.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I'm ready to get back to football talk.

http://blogs.jsonline.com/packers/archive/2008/08/06/favre-update-training-camp-practice-10-morning.aspx


As for on the field matters with the Packers, WR Jake Allen, CB Charles Woodson, CB Al Harris, S Charlie Peprah, S Aaron Rouse, C Junius Coston, C Scott Wells, LT Chad Clifton, DT Ryan Pickett, TE Tory Humphrey, DT Justin Harrell, and DE Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila were all out. Most of them were only for rest, it appeared although Rouse is a little banged up.

Once the team went to 11-on-11 in shells, Aaron Rodgers had his best practice of training camp even though he threw an interception to Nick Collins. Rodgers and Donald Driver looked to not be on the same page on the play. Overall though, Rodgers looked calm and confident throughout the no huddle portion, which included some very loud crowd noise being pumped in through speakers.

[Zool]

Is there a difference between dinged up and banged up?

[boiga]

Here's one thing I thought was funny. Remember how people were worried yesterday that Jolly was out of practice?
Also, defensive tackle Johnny Jolly is expected to return today. He sat out Tuesday after getting a couple teeth pulled earlier in the week. http://www.piercecountyherald.com/articles/index.cfm?id=22044&section=homepage&property_id=13

I wonder what they used for anesthetic....

[BallHawk]

Here's one thing I thought was funny. Remember how people were worried yesterday that Jolly was out of practice?
Also, defensive tackle Johnny Jolly is expected to return today. He sat out Tuesday after getting a couple teeth pulled earlier in the week. http://www.piercecountyherald.com/articles/index.cfm?id=22044&section=homepage&property_id=13

I wonder what they used for anesthetic....

Twinkies.

[Freak Out]

Here's one thing I thought was funny. Remember how people were worried yesterday that Jolly was out of practice?
Also, defensive tackle Johnny Jolly is expected to return today. He sat out Tuesday after getting a couple teeth pulled earlier in the week. http://www.piercecountyherald.com/articles/index.cfm?id=22044&section=homepage&property_id=13

I wonder what they used for anesthetic....

A couple of teeth pulled? The guy is getting braces or he needs to learn how to floss. :lol:

Man...we need Jolly on the team and out of Texas jails for the defense to really do the job they have to to give Rodgers and the offense the cushion they may need early.

[pbmax]

Am I reading this wrong or is Josh Sitton our new starting Right Guard (Sport Stick)?

Look for 10:32 AM and UPDATE below that.

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/ic/blogs/insider/index.shtml

[Freak Out]

Am I reading this wrong or is Josh Sitton our new starting Right Guard (Sport Stick)?

Look for 10:32 AM and UPDATE below that.

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/ic/blogs/insider/index.shtml

"A bidding war is going on".....I heard some talk on the radio that TB wanted to send Garcia north in a Favre deal and that we would then turn around and trade Garcia? Strange days indeed.....

[DonHutson]

Am I reading this wrong or is Josh Sitton our new starting Right Guard (Sport Stick)?


I read that as being the plan while Wells is day to day with his injury. Still an encouraging sign though.

[javqa]

Is there a difference between dinged up and banged up?

nope they mean the same thing other than banged up might be more serious. Anyways whey wold that matter?

[javqa]

Anybody else wondering if that bike Jolly rode on survived the trip?

right here.

[boiga]

August 6th Evening: Offensive play of the day
Take your pick of the Aaron Rodgers-to-James Jones connections. During the last two team (11-on-11) periods, the two hooked up four times.

First, Jones made a nice tip-toe catch along the sidelines, dragging his second foot to get it in bounds, when Rodgers had rolled right and fired. Then Rodgers and Jones took advantage of a coverage bust by safeties Tyrone Culver and Jarrett Bush, and Jones was wide open deep for an easy bomb. Moments later, Rodgers was scrambling to his right, and Jones started to come back for the ball, only to turn and head downfield instead, getting behind CB Patrick Lee, and Rodgers hit him in stride. Then in the final team period, Rodgers hit Jones deep over the middle for a big gain to set up a touchdown for the first-team offense to close their work for the evening http://www.packers.com/news/blogs/packerscom_blog/

It looks like both Jones and Rodgers have gotten their groove back now that the miasma of overbearing fans and national media has lifted. Looks like Jones may hang onto that roster spot after all. Now if he can just hang onto the ball too...

No worries though, BallHawk. Ruvell's continuing to impress.
Offensive play of the day
During team (11-on-11) work, WR Ruvell Martin made a nifty catch on a crossing route on a throw by QB Aaron Rodgers. Reaching out with his right arm, Martin got a hand on the ball and tipped it toward himself, hauling it in over the middle and barely breaking stride.

[mission]

damn... this is what im talkin bout!!

[boiga]

D'oh: Orrin Thomas was carted off with a sprained ankle and Rouse has a hip flexor injury. Also, Wynn dropped two easy passes... I'm losing my hope for the guy.

On the plus side, GBPG was waxing poetic about how well Rodgers did tonight:

Brett who? If Aaron Rodgers keeps this up, he might make Packers fans forget about a certain future Hall of Fame quarterback.

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/ic/blogs/insider/index.shtml

[HarveyWallbangers]

These are nice.


8:08 p.m.

Quarterback Aaron Rodgers looked impressive during team drills. It was as if the cloud of Brett Favre had dissipated over his head, the way he performed tonight.

Rodgers scrambled out of the pocket on a third-and-5 play for a long gain and a first down. He had a string of five straight completions stopped when running back DeShawn Wynn dropped an easy pass in the flat. Rodgers also had a pair of touchdown passes during a red-zone team drill, firing one score to wide receiver Chris Francies and another to wide receiver Jordy Nelson. Rodgers’ only hiccup during the drill came when linebacker Abdul Hodge batted down one of his passes at the line of scrimmage.

8:41 p.m.

Quarterback Aaron Rodgers continued his impressive practice this evening. During a team drill, he had a free play when the defense jumped offside and hit a wide-open James Jones perfectly in stride on a deep pass. A few plays later, Rodgers rolled right and hit Jones again along the right sideline on a pass over the outstretched of rookie cornerback Pat Lee.

8:57 p.m.

Brett who? If Aaron Rodgers keeps this up, he might make Packers fans forget about a certain future Hall of Fame quarterback.

Rodgers directed an 80-yard scoring drive during a team drill late in tonight’s practice. It included another deep pass to wide receiver James Jones. The march concluded with a 4-yard touchdown pass to wide receiver Greg Jennings on a slant.

[BallHawk]

Coincidence?

I'm not sure. Must be nice to have some of the shadow gone.

[boiga]

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080806/PKR01/80806183 Rodgers watch

In the two practices combined, Rodgers completed 31 of 39 passes. He had an interception in the morning practice. He was 18-of-22 in evening session, and two of the incompletions were Wynn’s drops.

Second-stringer Brian Brohm was 11-of-19 with an interception (also in the morning practice), while third-stringer Matt Flynn went 7-of-9.

This makes me feel so much better about our upcoming season. I was sincerely disappointed in the offense's level of play at the scrimmage, but things are definitely looking up.

[The Shadow]

Coincidence?

I'm not sure. Must be nice to have some of the shadow gone.

BallHawk : Please do not attribute a good Packers practice to my absence!

[mission]

Coincidence?

I'm not sure. Must be nice to have some of the shadow gone.

I cant do my job (make creative music) with even anyone except a small handful of people in the room.

I couldnt imagine having to do it with Dr. Dre standing over my shoulder, wanting/waiting/pleasing to get on the keyboard and having thousands of people yelling at me that I suck, we want dre!

Shit ... plus the rain the other night?

I have big hopes for my man A-Rod... I wasnt sold on him -- Im sure some "injury prone" quotes of mine could be found -- but I just gotta hunch on the kid! He's got the swag.

[Joemailman]

D'oh: Orrin Thomas was carted off with a sprained ankle and Rouse has a hip flexor injury. Also, Wynn dropped two easy passes... I'm losing my hope for the guy.

On the plus side, GBPG was waxing poetic about how well Rodgers did tonight:
[quote]Brett who? If Aaron Rodgers keeps this up, he might make Packers fans forget about a certain future Hall of Fame quarterback.

I thought Morency looked good on Family Night. Wynn is on very thin ice.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Boiga posted this in the Sitton thread, but I don't want it to get lost in the shuffle.

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=780835


“What round did we draft him in?” defensive tackle Ryan Pickett said. “I don’t know how he slid down like that. He’s one of the better rookie guards I’ve ever seen just coming in the league.”

All Pickett can do now is watch because of a tight hamstring. However, he did bump with Sitton during the off-season.

“As big as he is, he probably has some of the best feet on our offensive line,” said Pickett. “Real quick. When you beat him initially he’s so good at recovery. And he’s strong. You can’t bull him.

“All the D-line, everybody gives him respect. It’s hard to earn, but he did a good job earning it. Some day I know he’ll be a starter, a good one. I just don’t know when.”

[HarveyWallbangers]

Return game

Mike Stock, who coaches special teams, said cornerback Will Blackmon has the inside track on punt and kickoff returns just ahead of cornerback Tramon Williams.

"But if somebody is playing more defense than the other guy, we can always spell him," said Stock. "They both have speed and legit catching ability."

[boiga]

We got a new CB:


The Packers added cornerback Scorpio Babers to their roster to fill the spot vacated when Brett Favre was traded to the Jets. Babers tried out for the team Wednesday. He’s 5-11, 194 lbs. and is out of Sam Houston State
http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/ic/blogs/insider/index.shtml

* The Brett Favre chants were pretty much gone -- what remains this morning is one lone heckler, who periodically is shouting insults during practice.
Woodbuck, just go home....

[Chevelle2]

Scorpio Babers? Keep the guy just for his name sweet.

[RashanGary]

Boiga posted this in the Sitton thread, but I don't want it to get lost in the shuffle.

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=780835


“What round did we draft him in?” defensive tackle Ryan Pickett said. “I don’t know how he slid down like that. He’s one of the better rookie guards I’ve ever seen just coming in the league.”

All Pickett can do now is watch because of a tight hamstring. However, he did bump with Sitton during the off-season.

“As big as he is, he probably has some of the best feet on our offensive line,” said Pickett. “Real quick. When you beat him initially he’s so good at recovery. And he’s strong. You can’t bull him.

“All the D-line, everybody gives him respect. It’s hard to earn, but he did a good job earning it. Some day I know he’ll be a starter, a good one. I just don’t know when.”

Wow, this is high praise. Hell, if he's this good just throw him in there. By the end of the season he'll be ripping it up. I like the strength of our line with Spitz/Sitton/Tausch on the right side. That is no weaker than the Flannigan/Rivera/Tausch right side of the past.

[boiga]

Rodgers is continuing his bounce back from the scrimmage. Hopefully it'll continue through january.

10:35 a.m.

Aaron Rodgers looked impressive during a team no-huddle drill at which crowd noise was piped onto the field. Rodgers marched the team 70 yards to a touchdown. He completed six of eight passes on the drive, including a four-yard touchdown strike to James Jones. Rodgers looked particularly sharp on three different slant passes during the drive, drilling the ball on target in tight coverage.

The second-team offense didn’t fair nearly as well in the drill. Brian Brohm and Matt Flynn combined to complete just one of eight passes.

[HarveyWallbangers]

My Viking friend here at work assures me that the GBPG beat writer, Tom Pelissero, is not a shill. He used to be a Vikings beat writer for KFAN.com, and he thought "Dot-com Tom" was the most impartial beat writer KFAN has had covering the Vikings.


The No. 1 offense returned to the field for a normal team drill with crowd noise again piped in. On that drive, Rodgers completed six of nine passes.

* The Brett Favre chants were pretty much gone -- what remains this morning is one lone heckler, who periodically is shouting insults during practice.

[Chevelle2]

Anyone know how T-Jackass is looking in TC? Im just curious....

[Chevelle2]

McCarthy was pleased with the performance of Aaron Rodgers. He said Rodgers is ready to go and he can’t wait to see him in game action. The Packers take on the Cincinnati Bengals Monday night at Lambeau Field.

[BallHawk]

Anyone know how T-Jackass is looking in TC? Im just curious....

I've heard some days he's not so good and other days he looks great.

T-Jack just needs to find some consistency.

[BallHawk]

The Packers added cornerback Scorpio Babers to their roster to fill the spot vacated when Brett Favre was traded to the Jets. Babers tried out for the team Wednesday. He’s 5-11, 194 lbs. and is out of Sam Houston State

Ok, so over the last few years we've had guys on our team with the names of:

Atari
Taco
Scorpio
Lumpkin

What is up with GB and the weird names? :?: :D

[boiga]

Coach Mike McCarthy said running back Ryan Grant had a hamstring strain and didn’t participate in practice this morning. Grant reported to camp a week late because of a contract holdout. http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/ic/blogs/insider/index.shtml

I was worried that Grant would push himself too hard when he got back. He kept talking about how he was working extra after practice to try and catch up... and now look what happened.

Take it slow, Ryan, and build up your resistance.

[Freak Out]

The Packers added cornerback Scorpio Babers to their roster to fill the spot vacated when Brett Favre was traded to the Jets. Babers tried out for the team Wednesday. He’s 5-11, 194 lbs. and is out of Sam Houston State

Ok, so over the last few years we've had guys on our team with the names of:

Atari
Taco
Scorpio
Lumpkin

What is up with GB and the weird names? :?: :D

Starbuck or Apollo has to be next.......or Burrito Jones.

[BlueBrewer]

The Packers added cornerback Scorpio Babers to their roster to fill the spot vacated when Brett Favre was traded to the Jets. Babers tried out for the team Wednesday. He’s 5-11, 194 lbs. and is out of Sam Houston State

Ok, so over the last few years we've had guys on our team with the names of:

Atari
Taco
Scorpio
Lumpkin

What is up with GB and the weird names? :?: :D

My favorite was Sanjay Beach. Look at the Sanjay beach run. :P

[HarveyWallbangers]

I was worried that Grant would push himself too hard when he got back. He kept talking about how he was working extra after practice to try and catch up... and now look what happened.

Actually, he said yesterday that he always works out extra between practices. That's just him.

[BallHawk]

My favorite was Sanjay Beach. Look at the Sanjay beach run. :P

And who could forget Arli$$ Beach? :D

[boiga]

Actually, he said yesterday that he always works out extra between practices. That's just him. That's what I was referring to. His extra workout when he wasn't back in football shape yet might be what got him injured.

[AtlPackFan]

The Packers added cornerback Scorpio Babers to their roster to fill the spot vacated when Brett Favre was traded to the Jets. Babers tried out for the team Wednesday. He’s 5-11, 194 lbs. and is out of Sam Houston State

Ok, so over the last few years we've had guys on our team with the names of:

Atari
Taco
Scorpio
Lumpkin

What is up with GB and the weird names? :?: :D

My favorite was Sanjay Beach. Look at the Sanjay beach run. :P

Didn't the Pack have a linebacker named Michael Hunt? You had to be careful with that one. :mrgreen:

[Patler]

Didn't the Pack have a linebacker named Michael Hunt? You had to be careful with that one. :mrgreen:

That's why he was always called "Michael" and not "Mike". No announcer with any sense would use "Mike" in that name! :lol:

[BallHawk]

Didn't the Pack have a linebacker named Michael Hunt? You had to be careful with that one. :mrgreen:

That's why he was always called "Michael" and not "Mike". No announcer with any sense would use "Mike" in that name! :lol:

Which reminds me of....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kqj2hkbDnyM

Hoof Hearted!

[GBRulz]

Remember Harry Colon, who played for the Lions?

[boiga]

Evening Practice Stuff:

Defense ruled:
Highlights for the defense included two interceptions by rookie CB Pat Lee, a pick by CB Will Blackmon on a tipped throw by Aaron Rodgers, and a fumble recovery of a Rodgers snap by DE Jason Hunter.

"I think it is great film, I really do," McCarthy said. "That's what I was telling the offense. I thought defensively it was outstanding. I really like the way they were disguising their pressures."

McCarthy said there were too many pre-snap penalties and dropped balls for the offense.

"Frankly I think it's kind of good for them to get punched in the mouth right now," McCarthy said. "They had three or four good practices in a row, and this will be a really good experience as we move forward into the game planning." http://www.packers.com/news/blogs/packerscom_blog/

Other notes:

* Aaron Rodgers threw two interceptions during team drills, but largely was effective while going 15-for-25 passing despite playing behind a patchwork line during a difficult installation. He also had one bad exchange with fill-in center Jason Spitz.

Jon Ryan was 1-for-2 passing.

* Does anyone tip more passes than Alfred Malone? The 6-foot-4 defensive tackle had two more, one on which led to Will Blackmon’s interception of Rodgers. http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/ic/blogs/insider/index.shtml

Jon Ryan for MVP!!!

Edit:
-JSO says that Daniel Muir needs to improve if he wants a roster spot: http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=781411

-GBPG is almost calling Swain a bust :
So far, Swain is making even the easy catches look tough. http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080808/PKR01/80808131/1954/PKR03

[boiga]

You guys really ought to check out the "Packers training camp postcard" on SI: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/adam_duerson/08/09/packers.postcard/index.html

It's got a great take on the team from an outsider's perspective. Here's a quote to make BallHawk's day:

• Remember the name Ruvell Martin when you get to the late stages of your fantasy draft. (Or, if you don't play fantasy, just remember the name, period.) The 6'4" third-year receiver from Saginaw Valley has shown flashes of brilliance, and he's tight with Aaron Rodgers to the extent that it's become a joke. Against Dallas last year, Rodgers tried to cram a ball into Martin and got chewed out for it on the sideline. When coach Mike McCarthy asked for an explanation, Rodgers quipped, "Ruvell, that's my man." Now teammates mimmick that line almost every day. It'll be tough to pass Jones, Jennings and Driver on the depth chart -- and he'll have to overcome some inconsistency issues to stay ahead of Nelson and Chris Francies -- but for now he's one injury away from being a solid contributor.
He also say's Pickett should be back in the next days, Brohm looks awful, and we should all be happy with 10 wins.
...............................
Also, Muir got injured during today's practice. Are there any FA D-linemen out there? Do you think Sapp would come out of retirement for us? http://packerrats.com/ratchat/posting.php?mode=editpost&p=309321

[Joemailman]

Actually, I think Ballhawk wrote that.

[BallHawk]

Actually, I think Ballhawk wrote that.

Or the rest of the world is coming to realize what I have known for so long.

:D

[HarveyWallbangers]

http://www.madison.com/wsj/home/sports/packers//300135


Gradual improvement

While Rodgers' limited regular-season experience is well documented (seven games, zero starts, 59 pass attempts), he has shown annual improvement with each exhibition season.

As a rookie in 2005, he completed 20 of 37 passes (54.1 percent) for 172 yards, one touchdown, two interceptions, six sacks and a 53.0 rating. In 2006, he went 22-for-38 (57.9 percent) for 323 yards, with three TDs, one INT and nine sacks for a 101.1 rating. And last year, Rodgers hit on 37 of 59 attempts (62.7 percent) for 382 yards, three TDs, no INTs and a 98.3 rating.

While topping those numbers would be ideal -- especially to silence critics and Favre-supporters -- coach Mike McCarthy and offensive coordinator Joe Philbin aren't so much concerned with Rodgers' statistics as they are with how he runs the offense, makes decisions and executes the intricacies of the scheme -- reads, protections, run-pass options and so on.

"We want to see him do his job," Philbin said. "We think he's going to play well, we expect him to play well. If the blitz occurs, we expect him to respond the right way. Whatever he has to do, we expect he's going to do those things."

[mraynrand]

Evening Practice Stuff:

Defense ruled: [quote]Highlights for the defense included two interceptions by rookie CB Pat Lee, a pick by CB Will Blackmon on a tipped throw by Aaron Rodgers, and a fumble recovery of a Rodgers snap by DE Jason Hunter.


Did Rodgers run a lap?

[mngolf19]

Anyone know how T-Jackass is looking in TC? Im just curious....

I've heard some days he's not so good and other days he looks great.

T-Jack just needs to find some consistency.

I've been trying to monitor different writers takes on how Jackson has been so far. All seem to think he is better than last year and is both making better reads and throwing it quicker. The numbers he has posted in camps have been good, similar to what you posted on here about Rodgers last couple days. If I had to guess, I'd say he will be better than the 4th best QB in the division. I definitely liked what I saw in the preseason game. But all you can take from preseason is that at least he didn't look bad. Had a 137 rating for his qtr. of play.

[mraynrand]

Anyone know how T-Jackass is looking in TC? Im just curious....

I've heard some days he's not so good and other days he looks great.

T-Jack just needs to find some consistency.

I've been trying to monitor different writers takes on how Jackson has been so far. All seem to think he is better than last year and is both making better reads and throwing it quicker. The numbers he has posted in camps have been good, similar to what you posted on here about Rodgers last couple days. If I had to guess, I'd say he will be better than the 4th best QB in the division. I definitely liked what I saw in the preseason game. But all you can take from preseason is that at least he didn't look bad. Had a 137 rating for his qtr. of play.

I watched Jackson in the preseason game - he did look inconsistent. But he's got pretty good skills. He threw pretty well on the run once as well. But there were several pretty bad balls thrown as well. Nothing late over the middle or across the body as I recall.

[Rastak]

Anyone know how T-Jackass is looking in TC? Im just curious....

I've heard some days he's not so good and other days he looks great.

T-Jack just needs to find some consistency.

I've been trying to monitor different writers takes on how Jackson has been so far. All seem to think he is better than last year and is both making better reads and throwing it quicker. The numbers he has posted in camps have been good, similar to what you posted on here about Rodgers last couple days. If I had to guess, I'd say he will be better than the 4th best QB in the division. I definitely liked what I saw in the preseason game. But all you can take from preseason is that at least he didn't look bad. Had a 137 rating for his qtr. of play.

I watched Jackson in the preseason game - he did look inconsistent. But he's got pretty good skills. He threw pretty well on the run once as well. But there were several pretty bad balls thrown as well. Nothing late over the middle or across the body as I recall.


He was 8 for 11 and looked pretty decent He had one bad throw and had a couple nice throws on the run.

[HarveyWallbangers]

T-Jack just needs to find some consistency.

From what I can tell, he was shaky the first week and solid the second week. I took little from the preseason game. A ton of safe throws. A ton of movement plays. It seemed the coaching staff, rightly so, wanted him to get off to a good start. If I remember correctly, he did similarly last preseason.

Now that I look, his stats were almost identical to last preseason. He went 8 for 11 for 83 yards in 2007. In this game he went 8 for 11 for 118 yards. He had a bad throw at the line of scrimmage that Bobby Wade caught and the corner made a horrible tackle attempt.

It was this play:

T.Jackson pass short right to 19-B.Wade to SEA 36 for 28 yards

Give him the 2 yards he should have gotten, and he's 8 for 11 for 92 yards. Pretty similar.

Not to take any of the euphoria from Vikings fans, but it wasn't all that different from last preseason.

[Rastak]

T-Jack just needs to find some consistency.

From what I can tell, he was shaky the first week and solid the second week. I took little from the preseason game. A ton of safe throws. A ton of movement plays. It seemed the coaching staff, rightly so, wanted him to get off to a good start. If I remember correctly, he did similarly last preseason.

Now that I look, his stats were almost identical to last preseason. He went 8 for 11 for 83 yards in 2007. In this game he went 8 for 11 for 118 yards. He had a bad throw at the line of scrimmage that Bobby Wade caught and the corner made a horrible tackle attempt.

It was this play:

T.Jackson pass short right to 19-B.Wade to SEA 36 for 28 yards

Give him the 2 yards he should have gotten, and he's 8 for 11 for 92 yards. Pretty similar.

Not to take any of the euphoria from Vikings fans, but it wasn't all that different from last preseason.

I didn't take too much from it. He looked ok, made some decent throws on the run. I absolutely can't tell you what he did in 2007 1st preseason game, way too long ago so I can't say if he looked better or worse. You always say stats rarely tell the story, (then use them yourself.... :wink: ).

[mngolf19]

T-Jack just needs to find some consistency.


Not to take any of the euphoria from Vikings fans, but it wasn't all that different from last preseason.

That's exactly why you posted it Harv. :wink:

[HarveyWallbangers]

I've never said my stats are misleading.
:D

Pointing out these stats here show that he did well statistically in the preseason game #1, and then did poorly in the regular season. I think that's valid.

Not going by stats, I remembered him looking okay last preseason. He looked okay in this game also. He can run. I've always said that he throws a nice slant. Last year, he struggled with his accuracy on longer throws (+20 yds) and he also had the deer in the headlights look at times. I didn't see anything from the game the other night that makes me think that won't be a problem. I also didn't see anything that makes me think he won't be better.

[Rastak]

Well, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Having a 137 QB rating is an indicator of an upcoming bad season. We'll see how your boy does in 30 minutes.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Well, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Having a 137 QB rating is an indicator of an upcoming bad season. We'll see how your boy does in 30 minutes.

Jackson = 137
Rodgers = 79

I thought Rodgers looked better.

[Rastak]

Well, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Having a 137 QB rating is an indicator of an upcoming bad season. We'll see how your boy does in 30 minutes.

Jackson = 137
Rodgers = 79

I thought Rodgers looked better.



You would..... :lol:

I thought they looked about the same. You point out Wade benefitted from a missed tackle and are strangely silent on Jone's TD. I liked Rodgers throw to Martin though and admit he's under more pressure. I thought Rodgers played a good game, but lots of safe throws.

[HarveyWallbangers]

You point out Wade benefitted from a missed tackle and are strangely silent on Jone's TD.

I said the Jones TD wasn't a great throw, but it was catchable. The bad but catchable pass to Wade was a 3 yard pass. The bad but catchable pass to Jones was a 20 yard pass. You can believe what you want. I'll believe what I want. There were short throws for Rodgers (I think 9 of Jackson's 11 throws were within 10 yards of LOS), but Rodgers had to make more different types of throws. The drop by Driver was his most impressive throw of the night. He was getting hit low and threw a laser in between coverage. Those are the types of throws good NFL QBs have to make a lot in real games.

[mngolf19]

You point out Wade benefitted from a missed tackle and are strangely silent on Jone's TD.

I said the Jones TD wasn't a great throw, but it was catchable. The bad but catchable pass to Wade was a 3 yard pass. The bad but catchable pass to Jones was a 20 yard pass. You can believe what you want. I'll believe what I want. There were short throws for Rodgers (I think 9 of Jackson's 11 throws were within 10 yards of LOS), but Rodgers had to make more different types of throws. The drop by Driver was his most impressive throw of the night. He was getting hit low and threw a laser in between coverage. Those are the types of throws good NFL QBs have to make a lot in real games.

Most QB's passes are under 10 yards. They all get longer with YAC. And I could make an arguement that the shorter passes in heavier traffic are the harder ones to throw. I will agree with Ras and say I saw no level of play difference in the 2 QB performances. Things that could have been better for both but overall a positive performance and likely good enough for both teams to succeed this season.

[HarveyWallbangers]

We've had a ton of nagging injuries, but it looks like the Vikings are getting hit pretty hard with injuries. They've lost their starting safety for 6 weeks. They've lost their top special teams player, Heath Farwell, for the year. He's also their top backup LB. Backup DE, Brian Robison, is iffy for the opener. Hopefully, both teams can stay away from any more serious injuries.


The Minnesota Vikings, who finished last in 2007 in pass coverage, were counting on free-agent acquisition Madieu Williams to help change that in 2008 from his safety position.

Now, however, they'll reportedly have to wait a while for him to make an impact. The Star Tribune, citing unnamed sources, reported Tuesday that Williams will miss at least six weeks with an undisclosed neck injury.

[mngolf19]

We've had a ton of nagging injuries, but it looks like the Vikings are getting hit pretty hard with injuries. They've lost their starting safety for 6 weeks. They've lost their top special teams player, Heath Farwell, for the year. He's also their top backup LB. Backup DE, Brian Robison, is iffy for the opener. Hopefully, both teams can stay away from any more serious injuries.


The Minnesota Vikings, who finished last in 2007 in pass coverage, were counting on free-agent acquisition Madieu Williams to help change that in 2008 from his safety position.

Now, however, they'll reportedly have to wait a while for him to make an impact. The Star Tribune, citing unnamed sources, reported Tuesday that Williams will miss at least six weeks with an undisclosed neck injury.

Yeah, I'm thankful they used their top pick this year on a safety. Johnson played in the first preseason game and will quite a bit from here on out. Hope he is ready for the challenge. At least Robison may be back for the opener, he's sure he will but you never know. They also lost DE Mitchell for the year.

[SMACKTALKIE]

Interesting thread. It seems as though we have some similarities when it comes to QB play. T Jack looked good on Friday. One could make the arguement that T jack looked better than A Rod. :)

Personally I feel they looked about the same. They both came out firing (Jackson had almost as many pass attempts in one game than he did all pre season last year) and it was obvious the HC's wanted to see what they had. The one knock on Rodgers was that he was sacked twice and roughed up a bit too, T Jack was not touched Friday.

[HarveyWallbangers]

They both came out firing (Jackson had almost as many pass attempts in one game than he did all pre season last year)

Jackson had 11 pass attempts in the first preseason game in 2007. He had 11 pass attempts in the first preseason game in 2008.

[SMACKTALKIE]

They both came out firing (Jackson had almost as many pass attempts in one game than he did all pre season last year)

Jackson had 11 pass attempts in the first preseason game in 2007. He had 11 pass attempts in the first preseason game in 2008.

Shit. Thats what I get for listening to pre season announcers......drunk.

You are correct, 11 attempts. I was even at the 1st pre season game last year........drunk.

Jackson did seem to lose the "deer in the headlights" look since last pre season.

[mngolf19]

From the KFAN writer. Take it for what it's worth. I captured the pertainent parts.

http://www.kfan.com/pages/vikings/camp2008/notebook/notebook8_12.html


Tarvaris Jackson has played extremely well at training camp over the last 10 days, but on Tuesday morning it was the defense thatmade its presence known in a big way.

- At this time last year, Tarvaris Jackson couldn’t do anything against the first team defense. Literally. The defense absolutely flustered Jackson to no end at training camp in 2007. This year is a different story, although on Tuesday Jackson probably felt a slight flashback.

[packers11]

T Jacks = poor man's version of Vick...

[mngolf19]

T Jacks = poor man's version of Vick...

He doesn't attempt to run. Wasn't a running QB in college either. Don't see the comparison.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

T Jacks = poor man's version of Vick...

He doesn't attempt to run. Wasn't a running QB in college either. Don't see the comparison.

Both are black...so that makes them identical. :roll:

[mraynrand]

T Jacks = poor man's version of Vick...

He doesn't attempt to run. Wasn't a running QB in college either. Don't see the comparison.

Both are black...so that makes them identical. :roll:

That's a really common thing to do Ty. Like people comparing Jordy Nelson to Jurevicius. McCaffrey or even Schroeder. People compared Jones to Sharpe rather than a strong white receiver.

http://www.packerrats.com/ratchat/viewtopic.php?t=14082

[Tyrone Bigguns]

T Jacks = poor man's version of Vick...

He doesn't attempt to run. Wasn't a running QB in college either. Don't see the comparison.

Both are black...so that makes them identical. :roll:

That's a really common thing to do Ty. Like people comparing Jordy Nelson to Jurevicius. McCaffrey or even Schroeder. People compared Jones to Sharpe rather than a strong white receiver.

http://www.packerrats.com/ratchat/viewtopic.php?t=14082

I understand your point.

The point i was making was about black and the traditional athletic/quick/scrambling black qb. Tjack isn't anywhere near vick....neither is leftwich, etc.

White guys do get put in that craft possession spot as well. No doubt. Jordy isn't slow like JJ or Easy Ed..he is fast. Better comparison would be Doug Donnely..though bigger.

[mraynrand]

. Tjack isn't anywhere near vick....neither is leftwich, etc.

Yep.

[boiga]

It seems like they had a good practice tonight. Wells, Grant, Harris, Jolly, and Coston were back in pads again. Ruvell and Wynn are still out after being injured on Monday though.

Here were the two most relevant quotes from GBPG:

Defensive players continue to make plays on the ball during team drills.
............
Aaron Rodgers is putting on a clinic for pinpoint passing. http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/ic/blogs/insider/index.shtml

Joey Porter, Tramon, Bush, and Tracey White successfully blocked on target passes from Brohm and Rodgers. Other notes are that Moll looked good, Coston looked horrible, and Antonio Freeman came by to watch.

[BallHawk]

Former Packers receiver Antonio Freeman attended tonight's practice.

What are the chances he showed up an hour late?

[Rastak]

It seems like they had a good practice tonight. Wells, Grant, Harris, Jolly, and Coston were back in pads again. Ruvell and Wynn are still out after being injured on Monday though.

Here were the two most relevant quotes from GBPG:

Defensive players continue to make plays on the ball during team drills.
............
Aaron Rodgers is putting on a clinic for pinpoint passing. http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/ic/blogs/insider/index.shtml

Joey Porter, Tramon, Bush, and Tracey White successfully blocked on target passes from Brohm and Rodgers. Other notes are that Moll looked good, Coston looked horrible, and Antonio Freeman came by to watch.


How can the defense shine when Rodgers is putting in pinpoint passes all the time? Wouldn't that eat them alive?

[boiga]

Here's the final notes from M3:

Practice ended at 9:03 p.m. In his address to the media afterward, coach Mike McCarthy said that linebacker A.J. Hawk will be out for the rest of the week with a chest injury he suffered in the preseason game against the Bengals.
............
McCarthy said quarterback Matt Flynn has closed the gap on Brian Brohm for the No. 2 job, although the number of reps each quarterback takes in practice will not change. McCarthy did indicate that Flynn has a chance to beat out Brohm for the backup quarterback job.

Receiver Ruvell Martin suffered a jaw contusion and mild concussion and his status remains up in the air. Running back DeShawn Wynn is suffering from a sprained ankle and his status for Saturday's game is also uncertain. http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?category=PKR03

I hope Ruvell and Hawk get better soon.

Edit:
How can the defense shine when Rodgers is putting in pinpoint passes all the time? Wouldn't that eat them alive? If Rodgers sees a guy in single coverage that's where his pass will go. He can throw a good ball but still have it blocked by the defender. It's then the receivers job to come down with the ball.

[HarveyWallbangers]

How can the defense shine when Rodgers is putting in pinpoint passes all the time? Wouldn't that eat them alive?

Gotta love training camp. Everybody is a star. I gotta say though, the Packers beat writers are usually pretty good at spotting the rising studs--Mike "Deion" Hawkins notwithstanding.

[boiga]

Injury update:
Injury/participation update
Remaining out were DTs Justin Harrell (back) and Ryan Pickett (hamstring), DE Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila, WR Greg Jennings (knee), S Charlie Peprah (knee), and T Orrin Thompson (ankle).

RB Ryan Grant (hamstring) and LB Desmond Bishop (Achilles) were in uniform, but did not participate. They were in pads as part of their rehab work.

Returning to the field Wednesday night were Wells, CB Al Harris, G Junius Coston and DT Johnny Jolly.

Besides Hawk, new to the list of players sitting out were TE Tory Humphrey (Achilles), WR Brett Swain (thigh), WR Ruvell Martin (head) and RB DeShawn Wynn (ankle). http://www.packers.com/news/blogs/packerscom_blog/

Swain and Humphrey need to get back on the field if they want to make the team.

[BallHawk]

Let's just hope Ruvell's concussion doesn't linger. Don't want to end up like Corey Koskie.

[HarveyWallbangers]

How can the defense shine when Rodgers is putting in pinpoint passes all the time? Wouldn't that eat them alive?

Gotta love training camp. Everybody is a star. I gotta say though, the Packers beat writers are usually pretty good at spotting the rising studs--Mike "Deion" Hawkins notwithstanding.

Here's the full report:


8:45 p.m.

Former Packers receiver Antonio Freeman attended tonight's practice. Freeman was chatting it up with cornerback Al Harris briefly and also was greeted by General Manager Ted Thompson on the sidelines.

Aaron Rodgers is putting on a clinic for pinpoint passing. During a 7-on-7 red-zone drill, Rodgers connected with tight end Donald Lee for a touchdown despite tight coverage from linebacker Tracy White. Later during a team drill, Rodgers nailed receiver James Jones with a perfect strike between defenders Joe Porter and Tyrone Culver. On the next play, Rodgers completed a perfect sideline pass to receiver Johnny Quinn despite blanket coverage from cornerback Scorpio Babers.

8:25 p.m.

Defensive players continue to make plays on the ball during team drills. Cornerback Joe Porter knocked down a perfectly thrown deep pass from Aaron Rodgers intended for James Jones down the right sideline. Porter had perfect position and made the play.

Linebacker Tracy White also got into the pass-defensed act when he knocked down a Brian Brohm throw intended for fullback Korey Hall.

[boiga]

I could get used to this. Rodgers is looking good and defensive backs are looking good.

If we stay healthy, this is gonna be a damn good team.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Free wasn't the only ex-Packer on the sidelines.


Former Packers RB Dorsey Levens and G Marco Rivera were on the sidelines watching practice.

[Guiness]

Injury update:
Injury/participation update
Remaining out were DTs Justin Harrell (back) and Ryan Pickett (hamstring), DE Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila, WR Greg Jennings (knee), S Charlie Peprah (knee), and T Orrin Thompson (ankle).

RB Ryan Grant (hamstring) and LB Desmond Bishop (Achilles) were in uniform, but did not participate. They were in pads as part of their rehab work.

Returning to the field Wednesday night were Wells, CB Al Harris, G Junius Coston and DT Johnny Jolly.

Besides Hawk, new to the list of players sitting out were TE Tory Humphrey (Achilles), WR Brett Swain (thigh), WR Ruvell Martin (head) and RB DeShawn Wynn (ankle). http://www.packers.com/news/blogs/packerscom_blog/

Swain and Humphrey need to get back on the field if they want to make the team.

Um, and Wynn? You have to think this is the last straw, notwithstanding pictures of Thompson shaving his dog.

[HarveyWallbangers]

The starting offensive line was once again Chad Clifton, Jason Spitz, Scott Wells, Josh Sitton and Mark Tauscher. Second team was Daryn Colledge, Allen Barbre, Junius Coston, Tony Moll and Breno Giacomini.

I'm assuming Clifton, Spitz, Wells, Sitton, Tauscher, Colledge, and Barbre are safe. I'm assuming Giamocini is the new long-range prospect. That means that Moll and Coston are battling for the final spot. I'd think the fact that Spitz can play OC and Moll can back up Tauscher at RT likely spells the end for Coston.

[boiga]

It seems that Training Camp is pretty much over. They have moved into the regular season schedule with fewer competitive drills.

C-Wood had a good day today, with interception on both Brohm and Flynn. Brohm looked shaky again though... Driver dropped a few more balls today, hopefully he's just getting out of his system before the regular season. JSO says that Harris still looks hurt by his back problem.

The major news is that Ruvell is back in practice and seems fine. He mentioned in his interview that he's had concussions from playing before. Hopefully he won't start getting all Mike Tyson girly voiced on us now.

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/ic/blogs/insider/index.shtml
http://blogs.jsonline.com/packers/archive/2008/08/14/training-camp-practice-16.aspx