Whats more likely?

[LEWCWA]

Rodgers is the next Brian Griese, Jay Fieldler or Steve Young! Chances are he will be most like Griese. And we are pushing our very capable HOF QB out the door for that! Players like Favre come around once in a lifetime and we can't wait to see the new Rodgers show! Kind of like canceling MASH to get that new show China Beach on the air!

[arcilite]

Rodgers is the next Brian Griese, Jay Fieldler or Steve Young! Chances are he will be most like Griese. And we are pushing our very capable HOF QB out the door for that! Players like Favre come around once in a lifetime and we can't wait to see the new Rodgers show! Kind of like canceling MASH to get that new show China Beach on the air!


Oh, ok buddy.

Want to show us where you keep your crystal ball that says Rodgers will be like Griese.


Fuck the Packers future! FAVRE 4 LYFE

[LEWCWA]

Chances are Rodgers numbers will compare better with Griese than Young. Thats an easy assumption players like Steve Young don't come around too often!

[HarveyWallbangers]

Chances are Rodgers numbers will compare better with Griese than Young. Thats an easy assumption players like Steve Young don't come around too often!

Chances are Favre's numbers will compare more favorably to his 2006 season than his 2007 season.

[sheepshead]

Rodgers is the next Brian Griese, Jay Fieldler or Steve Young! Chances are he will be most like Griese. And we are pushing our very capable HOF QB out the door for that! Players like Favre come around once in a lifetime and we can't wait to see the new Rodgers show! Kind of like canceling MASH to get that new show China Beach on the air!

Man I was think a very similar thing today to create a poll.

Steve Young, Scott Hunter or use Feildler.


start a poll man

[sheepshead]

young

View Details For: 43 Regular Season and 8 Playoff TDs Scored / 233 Regular Season and 20 Playoff TDs Thrown
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Year Age Tm Pos G GS Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A Sk%
1985 24 TAM qb 5 5 72 138 52.2 935 3 2.2 8 5.8 59 6.8 4.4 13.0 187.0 56.9 21 158 4.9 2.8 13.2
1986 25 TAM QB 14 14 195 363 53.7 2282 8 2.2 13 3.6 46 6.3 4.9 11.7 163.0 65.5 47 326 4.8 3.5 11.5
1987 26 SFO 8 3 37 69 53.6 570 10 14.5 0 0.0 50 8.3 9.7 15.4 71.3 120.8 3 25 7.6 9.0 4.2
1988 27 SFO 11 3 54 101 53.5 680 3 3.0 3 3.0 73 6.7 5.7 12.6 61.8 72.2 13 75 5.3 4.4 11.4
1989 28 SFO 10 3 64 92 69.6 1001 8 8.7 3 3.3 50 10.9 10.3 15.6 100.1 120.8 12 84 8.8 8.3 11.5
1990 29 SFO 6 1 38 62 61.3 427 2 3.2 0 0.0 34 6.9 7.2 11.2 71.2 92.6 8 41 5.5 5.8 11.4
1991 30 SFO QB 11 10 180 279 64.5 2517 17 6.1 8 2.9 97 9.0 8.3 14.0 228.8 101.8 13 79 8.3 7.7 4.5
1992*+ 31 SFO QB 16 16 268 402 66.7 3465 25 6.2 7 1.7 80 8.6 8.5 12.9 216.6 107.0 29 152 7.7 7.5 6.7
1993*+ 32 SFO QB 16 16 314 462 68.0 4023 29 6.3 16 3.5 80 8.7 7.8 12.8 251.4 101.5 31 160 7.8 7.0 6.3
1994*+ 33 SFO QB 16 16 324 461 70.3 3969 35 7.6 10 2.2 69 8.6 8.4 12.3 248.1 112.8 31 163 7.7 7.5 6.3
1995* 34 SFO QB 11 11 299 447 66.9 3200 20 4.5 11 2.5 57 7.2 6.5 10.7 290.9 92.3 25 115 6.5 5.9 5.3
1996* 35 SFO QB 12 12 214 316 67.7 2410 14 4.4 6 1.9 52 7.6 7.2 11.3 200.8 97.2 34 160 6.4 6.1 9.7
1997* 36 SFO QB 15 15 241 356 67.7 3029 19 5.3 6 1.7 82 8.5 8.3 12.6 201.9 104.7 35 220 7.2 7.0 9.0
1998* 37 SFO QB 15 15 322 517 62.3 4170 36 7.0 12 2.3 81 8.1 7.7 13.0 278.0 101.1 48 234 7.0 6.6 8.5
1999 38 SFO 3 3 45 84 53.6 446 3 3.6 4 4.8 53 5.3 3.5 9.9 148.7 60.9 8 63 4.2 2.5 8.7
Career 169 143 2667 4149 64.3 33124 232 5.6 107 2.6 97 8.0 7.4 12.4 196.0 96.8 358 2055 6.9 6.3 7.9




hunter

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Year Age Tm Pos G GS Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A Sk%
1971 24 GNB QB 13 10 75 163 46.0 1210 7 4.3 17 10.4 77 7.4 3.2 16.1 93.1 46.1 11 81 6.5 2.5 6.3
1972 25 GNB QB 14 14 86 199 43.2 1252 6 3.0 9 4.5 49 6.3 4.6 14.6 89.4 55.5 13 86 5.5 3.9 6.1
1973 26 GNB QB 8 5 35 84 41.7 442 2 2.4 4 4.8 30 5.3 3.4 12.6 55.3 46.8 10 89 3.8 2.1 10.6
1974 27 BUF 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0
1976 29 ATL QB 8 6 51 110 46.4 633 5 4.5 4 3.6 34 5.8 4.6 12.4 79.1 64.7 9 81 4.6 3.5 7.6
1977 30 ATL qb 7 7 70 151 46.4 898 2 1.3 3 2.0 49 5.9 5.2 12.8 128.3 61.6 11 88 5.0 4.3 6.8
1979 32 DET 13 0 18 41 43.9 321 1 2.4 1 2.4 82 7.8 7.0 17.8 24.7 69.3 4 33 6.4 5.6 8.9
Career 64 42 335 748 44.8 4756 23 3.1 38 5.1 82 6.4 4.4 14.2 74.3 55.0 58 458 5.3 3.5 7.2

[Bretsky]

Chances are Rodgers numbers will compare better with Griese than Young. Thats an easy assumption players like Steve Young don't come around too often!

Chances are Favre's numbers will compare more favorably to his 2006 season than his 2007 season.

Chances are so will the Packers record :lol:

[HarveyWallbangers]

Chances are Rodgers numbers will compare better with Griese than Young. Thats an easy assumption players like Steve Young don't come around too often!

Chances are Favre's numbers will compare more favorably to his 2006 season than his 2007 season.

Chances are so will the Packers record :lol:

Chances are so will the Packers record--even with Favre. Chances are they'll have a better record next year with Rodgers in his second year as a starter instead of being a first year starter.

[Chevelle2]

Chances are if Favre plays next season, he will throw a season ending interception in a brilliantly retarded playoff meltdown.

[arcilite]

Chances are I will go through 16 bottles of bourbon next season.

[Bretsky]

Chances are Rodgers numbers will compare better with Griese than Young. Thats an easy assumption players like Steve Young don't come around too often!

Chances are Favre's numbers will compare more favorably to his 2006 season than his 2007 season.

Chances are so will the Packers record :lol:

Chances are so will the Packers record--even with Favre. Chances are they'll have a better record next year with Rodgers in his second year as a starter instead of being a first year starter.

That is because Favre would be starting in 2009 as well :wink:

[LEWCWA]

It is as simple as this. I would rather watch Favre one more season than get a jump start on the mediocre career of Aaron Rodgers.

[LEWCWA]

Everyone looks to the Dallas performance as Rodgers coming out party! bfd he played pretty decent against a poor secondary and the team down big! The big difference between the 2, when Brett got his shot, he worked his magic and pulled out a unbelievable win. Rodgers just came close

[Chevelle2]

It is as simple as this. I would rather watch Favre one more season than get a jump start on the mediocre career of Aaron Rodgers.

You enjoy this?


@denver: 2 TOs
@sf: 2 INTs
@stl: 6 INTs
@phi: Hail Mary INT
ATL: 2 INTs
MIN: 4 INTs
NYG: 2 INTs

[GBRulz]

Who knows what is more likely, but why in the heck wouldn't you want Rodgers to be the next Steve Young?? I don't want a Brian Greasy!!

[Chevelle2]

Everyone looks to the Dallas performance as Rodgers coming out party! bfd he played pretty decent against a poor secondary and the team down big! The big difference between the 2, when Brett got his shot, he worked his magic and pulled out a unbelievable win. Rodgers just came close

When did Favre pull out an unbelievable win @dallas?

The same poor secondary who picked off Favre twice, and that has 3 Pro Bowlers.

[falco]

can someone help me out? why is the rodgers vs phillips comparison not made more often?

both were first round picks, both looked good at times during the preseason. I know Brees wasn't Favre, but you had a situation with both teams where they had proven commodities at QB but were ready to move on to the young player in the wings - both teams took a lot of flak for it, but both felt that they were making the right decision. If I'm correct, Rivers went 14-2 in his first season as a starter based on the strength of the team. seems like the packers have a similarly talented squad (maybe not quite as good).

anyways, it seems like a fair comparison to me - one of those things you have to let play out

[Chevelle2]

can someone help me out? why is the rodgers vs phillips comparison not made more often?

both were first round picks, both looked good at times during the preseason. I know Brees wasn't Favre, but you had a situation with both teams where they had proven commodities at QB but were ready to move on to the young player in the wings - both teams took a lot of flak for it, but both felt that they were making the right decision. If I'm correct, Rivers went 14-2 in his first season as a starter based on the strength of the team. seems like the packers have a similarly talented squad (maybe not quite as good).

anyways, it seems like a fair comparison to me - one of those things you have to let play out

I really like this comparison. I know LT >>> Grant, but our WR >> their WRs.

I like the #s Rivers put up as well in that, in comparison to what I think Rodgers will do - 21 TDs, 9 INTs.

[LEWCWA]

Who knows what is more likely, but why in the heck wouldn't you want Rodgers to be the next Steve Young?? I don't want a Brian Greasy!!


Who said anything about not wanting him to be Young like? Chances are slim of that happening. Chances are much better he is closer to Griese!

[LEWCWA]

Everyone looks to the Dallas performance as Rodgers coming out party! bfd he played pretty decent against a poor secondary and the team down big! The big difference between the 2, when Brett got his shot, he worked his magic and pulled out a unbelievable win. Rodgers just came close

When did Favre pull out an unbelievable win @dallas?

The same poor secondary who picked off Favre twice, and that has 3 Pro Bowlers.


This is just a stupid response...why act like an ass? You know what I was talking about, but still have to act like an ass. Yes Dallas had coverage problems all season, I could care less that Roy Williams went to the probowl and couldn't cover my mother.

[LEWCWA]

Chevelle-if you hate Favre so much how can you be a Packer fan?

[Chevelle2]

I certainly dont "hate" Favre. I just don't like what he is doing right now. The framed Favre pictures in my basement will always remain.

[falco]

Chevelle-if you hate Favre so much how can you be a Packer fan?

where did he say that??? LEWCA, you are a moron - not everthing is as black and white as you want it to be

[LEWCWA]

Chevelle-if you hate Favre so much how can you be a Packer fan?

where did he say that??? LEWCA, you are a moron - not everthing is as black and white as you want it to be

I'm a moron, because Chevelle bashes Favre every chance he gets and I call him on it? Well I'll just say this to you. Fuck off :D

[LEWCWA]

And thats the problem with dipshits like you. You have to muddy the waters on everything. It is pretty Green and Gold to me, Favre is the better player, will always be the better player and is getting shafted! If they were so sure Rodgers was better they would have an open competition for the job and none of this bs would be going on! Had they said 2 weeks ago, show up to camp and earn the job we would be talking about TC and not bashing one of the greatest players any of us will ever see......thats pretty black and white to me!!

[gex]

haters will be haters :shock: with all their insults.

Whats that saying about the most popular player on the team is the back-up QB, untill he starts.










Anoitted Aaron

[Harlan Huckleby]

Chevelle-if you hate Favre so much how can you be a Packer fan?

where did he say that??? LEWCA, you are a moron - not everthing is as black and white as you want it to be


Chevelle hates the sin, loves the sinner.

[Harlan Huckleby]

haters will be haters :shock: with all their insults.

Whats that saying about the most popular player on the team is the back-up QB, untill he starts.


Anoitted Aaron

but that describe all or nearly all the starters, geuess they are annointed too.

Every starter can be replaced by their backup if they don't perform.

[falco]

And thats the problem with dipshits like you. You have to muddy the waters on everything. It is pretty Green and Gold to me, Favre is the better player, will always be the better player and is getting shafted! If they were so sure Rodgers was better they would have an open competition for the job and none of this bs would be going on! Had they said 2 weeks ago, show up to camp and earn the job we would be talking about TC and not bashing one of the greatest players any of us will ever see......thats pretty black and white to me!!

good for you then :roll:

its always easier to come to a conclusion when you lock in on one perspective

[bobblehead]

And thats the problem with dipshits like you. You have to muddy the waters on everything. It is pretty Green and Gold to me, Favre is the better player, will always be the better player and is getting shafted! If they were so sure Rodgers was better they would have an open competition for the job and none of this bs would be going on! Had they said 2 weeks ago, show up to camp and earn the job we would be talking about TC and not bashing one of the greatest players any of us will ever see......thats pretty black and white to me!!

so if putting the "better player now" on the field is the best thing to do, we should have traded for pacman, TO, and chad johnson right? I mean, nothing else matters, they are hella talented. Of course other things do matter, like retiring, getting the whole organization going one way, then wanting the job back....you know...yanking chains.

If chad johnson wants to play, but not for the bengals, they should just release him.

[LEWCWA]

And thats the problem with dipshits like you. You have to muddy the waters on everything. It is pretty Green and Gold to me, Favre is the better player, will always be the better player and is getting shafted! If they were so sure Rodgers was better they would have an open competition for the job and none of this bs would be going on! Had they said 2 weeks ago, show up to camp and earn the job we would be talking about TC and not bashing one of the greatest players any of us will ever see......thats pretty black and white to me!!

so if putting the "better player now" on the field is the best thing to do, we should have traded for pacman, TO, and chad johnson right? I mean, nothing else matters, they are hella talented. Of course other things do matter, like retiring, getting the whole organization going one way, then wanting the job back....you know...yanking chains.


If chad johnson wants to play, but not for the bengals, they should just release him.


This comment makes little sense in the context of what I wrote. Things prohibit trading for other teams stars like money, etc....don't fool yourself, TT and MM know Favre is the better player, that is why he won't be around. Coaches and GM's put the best players on the field, period. If they don't they won't be around long!

[Packerarcher]

Chances are if Favre plays next season, he will throw a season ending interception in a brilliantly retarded playoff meltdown.

Al Harris and the Packer coaching staff are actually the ones that lost that game. The Packers wouldn't even have been there without Favre so just quit bringing it up dumbshit.

[Packerarcher]

And thats the problem with dipshits like you. You have to muddy the waters on everything. It is pretty Green and Gold to me, Favre is the better player, will always be the better player and is getting shafted! If they were so sure Rodgers was better they would have an open competition for the job and none of this bs would be going on! Had they said 2 weeks ago, show up to camp and earn the job we would be talking about TC and not bashing one of the greatest players any of us will ever see......thats pretty black and white to me!!

so if putting the "better player now" on the field is the best thing to do, we should have traded for pacman, TO, and chad johnson right? I mean, nothing else matters, they are hella talented. Of course other things do matter, like retiring, getting the whole organization going one way, then wanting the job back....you know...yanking chains.

If chad johnson wants to play, but not for the bengals, they should just release him.

So now your BEST argument is that somehow over the offseason Brett unbecame a Packer people. Not by retireing but the "Packer people" that the team always looks for in players,good stand up citezens.

[th87]

Chances are if Favre plays next season, he will throw a season ending interception in a brilliantly retarded playoff meltdown.

Al Harris and the Packer coaching staff are actually the ones that lost that game. The Packers wouldn't even have been there without Favre so just quit bringing it up dumbshit.

Slow down, chief. While Harris and the coaching staff sucked, the Giants stacked the box with 8 or 9 every play, forcing Favre to beat them. I was there - he missed receivers left and right, threw too late, and made poor decisions throughout the game.

Plenty of blame to go around, and Favre is not immune.

[th87]

And thats the problem with dipshits like you. You have to muddy the waters on everything. It is pretty Green and Gold to me, Favre is the better player, will always be the better player and is getting shafted! If they were so sure Rodgers was better they would have an open competition for the job and none of this bs would be going on! Had they said 2 weeks ago, show up to camp and earn the job we would be talking about TC and not bashing one of the greatest players any of us will ever see......thats pretty black and white to me!!

so if putting the "better player now" on the field is the best thing to do, we should have traded for pacman, TO, and chad johnson right? I mean, nothing else matters, they are hella talented. Of course other things do matter, like retiring, getting the whole organization going one way, then wanting the job back....you know...yanking chains.


If chad johnson wants to play, but not for the bengals, they should just release him.


This comment makes little sense in the context of what I wrote. Things prohibit trading for other teams stars like money, etc....don't fool yourself, TT and MM know Favre is the better player, that is why he won't be around. Coaches and GM's put the best players on the field, period. If they don't they won't be around long!

Maybe MM and TT know that Rodgers is the better player? Since their jobs depend on it and all?

Why do angry fans constantly think they know more than a good coach and a good GM?

[LEWCWA]

That is fine, if they believe Rodgers is the better player, let him beat Brett out. Don't run the guy out of town. If Rodgers is just handed, Brett's job and he is Griese like. Both will be looking for work. If he takes Brett's job, they have a fighting chance. I don't like anything about this situation, but for people to say it is time to move on from a mvp calibur player to an unknown is ludicrous to me.

[Bossman641]

That is fine, if they believe Rodgers is the better player, let him beat Brett out. Don't run the guy out of town. If Rodgers is just handed, Brett's job and he is Griese like. Both will be looking for work. If he takes Brett's job, they have a fighting chance. I don't like anything about this situation, but for people to say it is time to move on from a mvp calibur player to an unknown is ludicrous to me.

There can never be a fair competition. It wouldn't matter if Rodgers outplayed Favre, Favre loyalists would still complain about it and say he was cheated.

Maybe the Packers aren't worried if Rodgers can outplay Favre now. Maybe they are worried about who will be playing better in December and January. This isn't about who is better now. If the Packers believe Aaron Rodgers in Janaury with 16 games behind him gives the Packers a better chance in the playoffs then a 39 year old Favre who has slowed down at the end of every offseason, then that is there decision to make.

[SkinBasket]

Chances are this thread sucks cock. The only discussion is how much for a men's room quickie?

[texaspackerbacker]

Steve Young or any of the varying degrees of failures? I'd say the talent surrounding them had a whole lot to do with it.

This AIN'T a question of HATING Favre for most of us. It is really believing that the team will be better off with Rodgers. That is Thompson's position; That is McCarthy's position; That is a lot of the players' position.

Why is it so hard for some in this forum to accept that?

Fair competition? That amounts to a team destroying QB controversy. Hell no, we don't need that.

[Freak Out]

Chances are this thread sucks cock. The only discussion is how much for a men's room quickie?

Some of these boys seem to have a nasty strain of gonorrhea of the blowhole so I would be pretty careful if I was you Basket.

[th87]

That is fine, if they believe Rodgers is the better player, let him beat Brett out. Don't run the guy out of town. If Rodgers is just handed, Brett's job and he is Griese like. Both will be looking for work. If he takes Brett's job, they have a fighting chance. I don't like anything about this situation, but for people to say it is time to move on from a mvp calibur player to an unknown is ludicrous to me.

I agreed with this philosophy that they should compete. But then I remembered someone saying how it's better for someone to be given the QB spot, so they can learn and such. They gave the spot to Steve Young; he didn't have to compete, and recently, they just released Leftwich to make way for Garrard without a competition.

Have faith that MM and TT know what they're doing. There must be a good reason that they don't want a competition. And no, it's not just to fuel their own egos or run Favre out of town for no good reason.