Why does Barack Obama propagate racial discord?

[HowardRoark]

Today in Missouri:

Obama, launching a four-day tour of swing states to promote his economic policies, mocked the arguments he said McCain, a Republican Arizona senator, and his supporters make.

"'He's not patriotic enough. He's got a funny name. He doesn't look like all the presidents on the dollar bills,'" said Obama, who would be the first black U.S. president.

Last week in Berlin, he said:

“I know that I don’t look like the Americans who’ve previously spoken in this great city. The journey that led me here is improbable. My mother was born in the heartland of America, but my father grew up herding goats in Kenya.”

First, I believe both Condi Rice and Colin Powell have spoken in, if not Berlin, some other great European cities, so this terra incognita that he claims is really not all that groundbreaking.

Second, why does he keep bringing up race in this cryptic manner? Has anybody heard the McCain campaign bring up his race? I don’t know of one educated or even uneducated person who has brought up his race. Why does he? Who is his target audience?

I have a dream that my two little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. And when this happens, when we allow freedom ring, when we let it ring from every village and every hamlet, from every state and every city, we will be able to speed up that day when all of God's children, black men and white men, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and Catholics, will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old Negro spiritual:

Free at last! Free at last!

Thank God Almighty, we are free at last!

PLEASE Barack!!! This is the moment that the world is waiting for! Our time is now. Cut the crap, quit being so divisive.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Sigh. You just make it too easy.

1. McCain campaign enlisted well-known racist Cincinnati right-wing shock jock Bill Cunningham as a warm-up act for McCain rally...Cunningham repeatedly used Obama's middle name Hussein...hmmm, wonder why?

McCain of course later condemned this...nice...let your minions do the dirty work and then you condemn.

2. I guess McCain having Soren Dayton on staff and who actively pushed an incendiary, racially-charged video. Hmm...yep, no race there. :roll:

McCain later dismissed Dayton.

3. In South Dakota, a TV station briefly aired an ad that was edited to show Obama saying, "we are no longer a Christian nation, we are also a Muslim nation." It omitted his saying, in the same speech, that the United States is not solely a Christian nation.

The ad, which included a photo of Obama wearing a turban as part of a traditional outfit given to him in Africa, concluded with a man saying: "It's time for people of faith to stand against Barack Hussein Obama." A group called the Coalition Against Anti-Christian Rhetoric paid for the ad.

4. The Texas Republican Party recently cut ties with a vendor whose political buttons at a party convention included one saying: "If Obama is president ... will we still call it The White House?"

Oh, i can hear it now...McCain isn't responsible...perfect..just like bush and the swift boat shit.

Stop pretending that repubs havent' used race before:

1. Willie Horton...hmm, i'm sure no white ex-cons who committed crimes could be found.
2. Jessie Helms...defeats a black man by running ad of white man crumbling letter informing him that he had lost a job he deserved to a minority.

Roark..your strategy is weak and obvious.

Obama's opponents are also laying the groundwork for blaming him if race "becomes an issue" during the campaign.

"Every word will be twisted to make it about race," said Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., When he and others confront Obama on issues such as national security and the economy, Graham said, it will have "nothing to do with him being an African-American."

wow...who is injecting race there roark?

Except for all the dog whistles that will be used during those "confrontations." And if the Obama campaign or his supporters/defenders have the temerity to point out that the old GOP favorite "welfare queens," as a possible example, is race-baiting, then they'll be accused of "playing the race card" by the race-baiters.

See how that works?

[Charles Woodson]

sigh, tys the first to respond to an obama thread? :roll: :roll:

[texaspackerbacker]

Sigh. You just make it too easy.

1. McCain campaign enlisted well-known racist Cincinnati right-wing shock jock Bill Cunningham as a warm-up act for McCain rally...Cunningham repeatedly used Obama's middle name Hussein...hmmm, wonder why?

McCain of course later condemned this...nice...let your minions do the dirty work and then you condemn.

2. I guess McCain having Soren Dayton on staff and who actively pushed an incendiary, racially-charged video. Hmm...yep, no race there. :roll:

McCain later dismissed Dayton.

3. In South Dakota, a TV station briefly aired an ad that was edited to show Obama saying, "we are no longer a Christian nation, we are also a Muslim nation." It omitted his saying, in the same speech, that the United States is not solely a Christian nation.

The ad, which included a photo of Obama wearing a turban as part of a traditional outfit given to him in Africa, concluded with a man saying: "It's time for people of faith to stand against Barack Hussein Obama." A group called the Coalition Against Anti-Christian Rhetoric paid for the ad.

4. The Texas Republican Party recently cut ties with a vendor whose political buttons at a party convention included one saying: "If Obama is president ... will we still call it The White House?"

Oh, i can hear it now...McCain isn't responsible...perfect..just like bush and the swift boat shit.

Stop pretending that repubs havent' used race before:

1. Willie Horton...hmm, i'm sure no white ex-cons who committed crimes could be found.
2. Jessie Helms...defeats a black man by running ad of white man crumbling letter informing him that he had lost a job he deserved to a minority.

Roark..your strategy is weak and obvious.

Obama's opponents are also laying the groundwork for blaming him if race "becomes an issue" during the campaign.

"Every word will be twisted to make it about race," said Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., When he and others confront Obama on issues such as national security and the economy, Graham said, it will have "nothing to do with him being an African-American."

wow...who is injecting race there roark?

Except for all the dog whistles that will be used during those "confrontations." And if the Obama campaign or his supporters/defenders have the temerity to point out that the old GOP favorite "welfare queens," as a possible example, is race-baiting, then they'll be accused of "playing the race card" by the race-baiters.

See how that works?

You have a problem with that stuff? Not one of your examples constitute even a shade of racism.

Obama, slick politician that he is, knows that one of the main things he has going for him is that blacks will blindly support him probably in even bigger percentages than they do other Dems. Nobody on our side, however, is opposing him either overtly or covertly because he is black.

Rather, all of the horrendous positions he takes on the issues are the reason to detest the guy. And as for tactics, hell yeah, the examples you gave are fair game--the Muslim name and rumors of whatever, the soft on criminals/pro-affirmative action/pro-welfare state crap, etc. That shit may stick to Obama, a black candidate, but no more so than it sticks to a whole lot of white leftists.

It ain't racism. It's being wrong in a blatantly anti-American way on the issues.

[sheepshead]

He's setting us up. when he looses it's gonna be all about race. The truth of the matter is this country could use a brother on Pennsylvania ave. just NOT this one. The last thing we need with as many issues as we have now is a socialist product of Hollywood with NO experience at anything.

It took Jackie Robinson to break the color barrier in baseball, Barry is NO Jackie Robinson.

[HowardRoark]

Just as I brilliantly posted last night……..

McCain campaign accuses Obama of playing race card


July 31 11:47 AM US/Eastern
By MIKE GLOVER
Associated Press Writer

CEDAR RAPIDS, Iowa (AP) - John McCain's campaign accused Barack Obama on Thursday of playing racial politics a day after the Democratic candidate predicted Republicans would try to scare voters by pointing out "he doesn't look like all those other presidents on the dollar bills."
Obama "played the race card, and he played it from the bottom of the deck," McCain campaign manager Rick Davis said in a statement. He called Obama's remarks "divisive, negative, shameful and wrong."

Stumping in Missouri, Obama, the first black candidate with a shot at winning the White House, argued Wednesday that President Bush and McCain will resort to scare tactics to maintain their hold on the White House because they have little else to offer voters.

"Nobody thinks that Bush and McCain have a real answer to the challenges we face. So what they're going to try to do is make you scared of me," Obama said. "You know, `he's not patriotic enough, he's got a funny name,' you know, `he doesn't look like all those other presidents on the dollar bills.'"

Obama himself didn't make clear what distinctions he thinks McCain is likely to raise regarding the presidents on U.S. currency—white men who for the most part were much older than Obama when elected. McCain has not raised Obama's race as an issue in the campaign; he has said Obama lacks experience.

Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs said Thursday that the senator was not referring to race.

"What Barack Obama was talking about was that he didn't get here after spending decades in Washington," Gibbs said. "There is nothing more to this than the fact that he was describing that he was new to the political scene. He was referring to the fact that he didn't come into the race with the history of others. It is not about race."

Obama often makes references to his distinctions as a candidate, such as saying there are doubts among some voters because he has "a funny name." At times he refers to his race as well, saying he looks different from any previous candidate but then adding that the differences are not just about race. Addressing supporters Tuesday night at a fundraiser in Springfield, Mo., he said, "It's a leap, electing a 46-year-old black guy named Barack Obama."

During a round of appearances in Missouri, an economically challenged battleground state, Obama worked to link McCain to the unpopular Bush. He said the Republican senator from Arizona would serve the equivalent of a third Bush term if elected. He said the country can't afford more of the same and expects different results.

"That's a definition of madness, but that's what John McCain is offering. He's offering Bush economic policies and Karl Rove politics," Obama said.

He pressed the theme later at a rain-soaked barbecue in Union, Mo.

"They're going to say I'm a risky guy," Obama said. "What they're going to argue is I'm too risky. The real risk is that we miss the moment, that we do not do what's needed because we're afraid."

For its part, McCain's campaign on Wednesday released a withering television ad comparing Obama to Britney Spears and Paris Hilton, suggesting the Democrat is little more than a vapid but widely recognized media concoction.

"He's the biggest celebrity in the world, but is he ready to lead?" the voiceover asks in the ad, which mixes images of Obama on his trip to Europe last week with video of the 20-something pop stars.

Obama's campaign quickly responded with a commercial of its own, dismissing McCain's complaints as "baloney" and "baseless."

Throughout the day, Obama argued that McCain "thinks we're on the right track" economically.

"These anxieties seem to be growing with each passing day," Obama said. "We can either choose a new direction for our economy or we can keep doing what we've been doing. My opponent, John McCain, thinks we're on the right track."

That elicited boos from some of the 1,500 people who filled a Springfield high school gymnasium. When an AP-Ipsos poll asked the "right track, wrong track" question this month, 77 percent said they thought the country was on the wrong track. The same poll set Bush's approval rating at 28 percent. Both were records for the AP-Ipsos survey.

[sheepshead]

Well said from Senator McCains campaign:

"Barack Obama has played the race card, and he played it from the bottom of the deck," said Rick Davis, in a statement issued from the McCain campaign. "It's divisive, negative, shameful and wrong."

[Tyrone Bigguns]

I think you mean...just like i said would happen. What a surprise...mccain plays the race card.

Funny, Mccain going negative...after he said he wouldn't..guess that new campaign manager didn't get the memo.

The paris hilton/spears ad...wow!

The "troops" issue...what a farce.

[sheepshead]

Hmmmm ok, sure...huh...whatever you say.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Hmmmm ok, sure...huh...whatever you say.

Right back at you.

Shouldn't you be attacking B.O..rather than giving something about McCain.

[HowardRoark]

Funny, Mccain going negative...after he said he wouldn't..guess that new campaign manager didn't get the memo.




McCain is not going negative, he is going positive. Race is not an issue for him, nor should it be for great country. He is not digging in his heals..looking at failed policies of the past.

Our time is now!!!!!!

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Funny, Mccain going negative...after he said he wouldn't..guess that new campaign manager didn't get the memo.




McCain is not going negative, he is going positive. Race is not an issue for him, nor should it be for great country. He is not digging in his heals..looking at failed policies of the past.

Our time is now!!!!!!

Race? Then why is he bringing it up?

Positive? You think the ad featuring obama linked to spears and hilton is postive?

“would rather lose a war in order to win a political campaign,” ..wow, another positive statement.

You think an ad that completely misrepresented what happened in germany was positive.

"The attacks are part of a newly aggressive McCain operation whose aim is to portray the Democratic presidential candidate as a craven politician more interested in his image than in ailing soldiers, a senior McCain adviser said.

Wow..that is positive. :roll:

I guess those repubs that are worrying about him going negative don't realize it is a positive message.

“The McCain campaign, I think, is being pulled in two directions,” said Todd Harris, a Republican strategist who worked for Mr. McCain in 2000. “On the one hand, this race is largely a referendum on Obama, and whether or not he’s going to pass the leadership threshold in the eyes of voters. So being aggressive against Obama on questions of leadership and trust and risk are important, but at the same time I think they need to be very careful because McCain is not at his best when he is being overly partisan and negative.”

I guess all the media outlets' stories on mccain going negative..well, they are just mistaken. :roll:

Roark...you must be in marketing..cause only someone in marketing could spin this as positive.

[texaspackerbacker]

Didn't Obama basically make a pre-emptive strike--saying something like "they're gonna make fun of my name and say this and that about me because I'm black"?

THAT is where the race card was played.

McCain never fulfilled any of what Obama whined about--not before the whine, not after.

For that matter, emphasizing the Muslim-sounding name and the rumors of a Muslim background really ain't racism at all--certainly not in the anti-black sense anyway. Most blacks are every bit as pro-Christian and anti-Muslim as most whites.

As for anti-Muslim and Christian versus Muslim, paraphrase Patrick Henry, who said, "if this be treason, make the most of it". IF THIS BE RACISM, MAKE THE MOST OF IT.

[sheepshead]

oh and then there's this:

Today, Dr. Danny Jazarevic, who served as the Chief of Trauma, Critical Care and Vascular Surgery at Landstuhl, issued the following statement on Barack Obama's canceled visit to Ramstein and Landstuhl:

"Last week, Senator Obama skipped a visit with wounded U.S. troops at Landstuhl Regional Medical Center in Germany because the Pentagon would not allow campaign staff or media to accompany him into the hospital. I served as director of trauma surgery at that hospital for nearly four years and saw the effect that a visit from a celebrity like Senator Obama could have on morale. During that time, I do not recall a single member of Congress canceling a visit with the troops despite being just a few hours away, but Senator Obama seems to have been more concerned with how the visit would affect him than how it would affect the soldiers recovering from wounds received in the service of their country."

Dr. Danny Jazarevic served as the Chief of Trauma, Critical Care and Vascular Surgery at Landstuhl Regional Medical Center. In 1984, Dr. Jazarevic joined the United States Army and later the Florida National Guard. He has since served in Honduras, Africa, Saudi Arabia, Bosnia, and Iraq. From December 2002 through January 2006, Dr. Jazarevic was assigned to the U.S. Army Hospital in Landstuhl, Germany, where he served as Chief of Trauma, Critical Care and Vascular Surgery. During this period, he deployed to Iraq numerous times, including with the 101st Airborne Division Forward Surgical Team and as Director of Operations for the 44th U.S. Army Medical Command. He is currently the Chief Trauma Surgeon at a civilian medical center in Florida, and also serves as a full Colonel in the U.S. Army Reserve. Dr. Jazarevic has been awarded the Bronze Star Meda

[sheepshead]

Didn't Obama basically make a pre-emptive strike--saying something like "they're gonna make fun of my name and say this and that about me because I'm black"?

THAT is where the race card was played.

McCain never fulfilled any of what Obama whined about--not before the whine, not after.

For that matter, emphasizing the Muslim-sounding name and the rumors of a Muslim background really ain't racism at all--certainly not in the anti-black sense anyway.

As for anti-Muslim and Christian versus Muslim, paraphrase Patrick Henry, who said, "if this be treason, make the most of it". IF THIS BE RACISM, MAKE THE MOST OF IT.

The Dems are obsessed with race and gender. If this past primary wasnt the most embarrassing display I dont know what was.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Oh, sheep you just make it too easy.

Senator obama wasn't a member of congress in germany..hence is senate aides dropped off the tour.

He was there as a campaigner. Big difference.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

If this past primary wasnt the most embarrassing display I dont know what was.
Have you actually read some of you posts? :oops:

[MJZiggy]

Actually got into a conversation today with a woman who is offended by Obama's take on race. She is truly bothered by the fact that while he was raised by his white grandparents, he only wants to talk about his black father (who walked out on him). She thinks the grandparents should be much more prominent in his vernacular.

[texaspackerbacker]

If this past primary wasnt the most embarrassing display I dont know what was.
Have you actually read some of you posts? :oops:

"hence is senate aides dropped off the tour" and "some of you posts"

Ask yourself the same, Tyrone.

[packinpatland]

I just finished Obama's 1st book 'Dreams from My Father'.
Explains alot.........his father didn't actually 'walk out out on him'........

[MJZiggy]

True (that was the phrase she used), but if you read that book, didn't you find it odd that he seemed to be framing everything from the view of a black man? He was raised by the white half of his family. I recall something about his work in the projects that I found odd, but now can't think of what it was. I wanted to read Audacity of Hope to see if it is framed differently.

[sheepshead]

The sad thing here is the once proud "party of the people" have nominated a man who is unelectable. In a year when they should be walking all over the GOP, they somehow think things like accomplishments, character, decisiveness shouldn't be considered for the most important job in the world.

Should we even be talking about the color of his skin or his parents or grand parents? Sadly, that's about all this guy has accomplished is being born.

Senator McCain doesnt trounce Cindy out on stage. Can anyone name his kids? Ever see them? 3 are serving, 2 are active. Doesnt anyone know anything about his grandmothers? (Grandfathers yes, because they were Admirals)

It's really an embarrassment.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

True (that was the phrase she used), but if you read that book, didn't you find it odd that he seemed to be framing everything from the view of a black man? He was raised by the white half of his family. I recall something about his work in the projects that I found odd, but now can't think of what it was. I wanted to read Audacity of Hope to see if it is framed differently.

How should it be framed. In this country you are black if you have black blood in you. My god, we had names and classifications for how much black blood was in you.

Doesn't matter who raises you...kids, neighbors, etc. will all view you as black...or mixed.

So, while reinforcement of "whiteness" may have been in the family (or maybe it was also that..don't forget your dad and his culture)...for sure society didn't reinforce it.

Also, i don't think you can discount being raised in Hawaii as well. Hawaiians label people..Haole, Hapa,

[sheepshead]

If this past primary wasnt the most embarrassing display I dont know what was.
Have you actually read some of you posts? :oops:

I'm not running for anything man.

[packinpatland]

Although he was raised by his grandparents, his mother, his stepdad.....I think he bases all on the fact that his color wouldn't allow him to 'hang' with the white kids, and both his mother and grandparents encouraged his embracing his black heritage.
I've just started ' The Audacity of Hope'.........will let you know how that one is.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

If this past primary wasnt the most embarrassing display I dont know what was.
Have you actually read some of you posts? :oops:

I'm not running for anything man.

Really? With your personality..you are a lock. :roll:

[packinpatland]

"Should we even be talking about the color of his skin or his parents or grand parents? Sadly, that's about all this guy has accomplished is being born. "

Sheepshead........you graduate from Harvard?......you been elected a US Senator?

[sheepshead]

"Should we even be talking about the color of his skin or his parents or grand parents? Sadly, that's about all this guy has accomplished is being born. "

Sheepshead........you graduate from Harvard?......you been elected a US Senator?

I wont get into how he won his sentate seat. Please take the time to research it. He was basically unopposed after an unprecedented drudge up of Ryans divorce records by the Chicago Tribune. Ryan did far far less than 2004's nominee for VP Edwards. Far less, the things he did he did with his wife. Barry hasnt done squat since winning the seat unapposed. (I live here) you can research that also.
Again, im not running for anything-why are you comparing BHO to me. He should be compared to others that were seeking the job. And now, the other guy seeking the job. First we need to look at his accomplishments then we can talk about what his ideas are for the future. Most of us cant get past the fact that he has done little with his life to even deserve consideration.
President of the United States is an important job. Trust me , we're not going to hand it to a guy just because he looks good in a suit.

[sheepshead]

Truthfully, I think BHO should come back to IL. Run for governor(ours is in deep doo doo).

Get a few gray hairs and attempt to run something for once in his life and try again in 12-16 years.

Illinois is a solid blue state and I'm sure he can establish himself.

[HowardRoark]

My god, we had names and classifications for how much black blood was in you.


Who is we?

We are the ones we've been waiting for. We are the change that we seek!!!!!

Or something.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

My god, we had names and classifications for how much black blood was in you.


Who is we?

We are the ones we've been waiting for. We are the change that we seek!!!!!

Or something.

We, meaning americans.

Willfully obtuse these days are we.

[HowardRoark]

My god, we had names and classifications for how much black blood was in you.


Who is we?

We are the ones we've been waiting for. We are the change that we seek!!!!!

Or something.

We, meaning americans.

Willfully obtuse these days are we.

Not my America, maybe yours...you need to internalize the idea of excellence. Not many folks spend a lot of time trying to be excellent.

Why can't I just eat my waffle?

[Tyrone Bigguns]

My god, we had names and classifications for how much black blood was in you.


Who is we?

We are the ones we've been waiting for. We are the change that we seek!!!!!

Or something.

We, meaning americans.

Willfully obtuse these days are we.


Not my America, maybe yours...you need to internalize the idea of excellence. Not many folks spend a lot of time trying to be excellent.

Why can't I just eat my waffle?

Interesting concept...you selectively disavow parts of america and her history.

Exellence: Highly overrated. We americans didn't become the worlds power be devoting ourselves to excellence...more like mass producing crap and being the first to do it.

[HowardRoark]

move on

[HowardRoark]

Obamaheads censor and put down young black man's freeodm of speech with chants of "Yes We Can!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ul8gPo4zwo

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Obamaheads censor and put down young black man's freeodm of speech with chants of "Yes We Can!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ul8gPo4zwo

Poor planning..shoulda kept them out like Bush did. :oops:

Is this really your position? Are you really this foolish or spitefull? Or should we say that the hecklers were censoring obama?

[texaspackerbacker]

Speaking of people who like to place the race card, where has Michelle been lately? I heard Obama's handlers are trying to do a makeover of her because her antics were hurting him in the polls.

Something I was wondering about regarding this McCain commercial conveying the thought that Obama is a celebrity airhead like Paris Hilton and Brittney Spears:

Does that mean that Paris and Brittney gave their permission to use their faces, implying that they support McCain? Or did the McCain campaign have to pay to use their images? Or are Brittney and Paris somehow "public domain", and thus, don't need to give permission?

Here again, picturing the guy as an empty suit/an airhead/whatever, are the whiners trying to say THAT is RACISM? Try REALISM!

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Speaking of people who like to place the race card, where has Michelle been lately? I heard Obama's handlers are trying to do a makeover of her because her antics were hurting him in the polls.

Something I was wondering about regarding this McCain commercial conveying the thought that Obama is a celebrity airhead like Paris Hilton and Brittney Spears:

Does that mean that Paris and Brittney gave their permission to use their faces, implying that they support McCain? Or did the McCain campaign have to pay to use their images? Or are Brittney and Paris somehow "public domain", and thus, don't need to give permission?

Here again, picturing the guy as an empty suit/an airhead/whatever, are the whiners trying to say THAT is RACISM? Try REALISM!

No one is saying the ad is racism. Please find one person saying that.

what people..including republicans and fox news are saying is that mccain is going negative.

[texaspackerbacker]

Based on the experience of Hillary, it's about time, dontcha think?

Gosh, how will they ever find things to go negative about regarding Barak Hussein Obama?