McCarthy to "Get things off his chest" in meeting

[SnakeLH2006]

According to a new blurb at 11am CST on Sportscenter, Wendy Nix said McCarthy told her he "had some things to get off my chest" when asked what the meeting with Brett Favre would entail. So what do you think that conversion will be like?

MM: Damn it Brett. What were you thinking? You really put us in a bind.
Brett: Sorry Mike, I couldn't stand it at home anymore.
MM: So why didn't ya take the money?
Brett: I already own 12 lawn tractors, besides Deanna keeps track of all the money. I never see it.
MM: So what the hell am I supposed to do now?
Brett: Can we still trade for Randy?

:lol:

[Tony Oday]

MM: No he is a patriot!
BF: How about Wahle I hear we could get him cheap.
MM: no BF you are a QB not a GM, I know I know you owned last year in Fantasy Football but its not the same!
BF: But im THE brett favre
MM: OK Ill buy you a copy of Madden '09
BF: Sweet! Can I trade AR?
MM: No
BF: Am I a starter this year?
MM: Of course
BF: Sweet
MM: you suck(under his breathe)
BF: Huh?
MM: nothing lets go practice.

[Patler]

I would like to hear that conversation. There have been several comments (nothing direct) from MM and from others with the Packers that make believe MM is extremely fed up with how Favre handled this off-season.

[bobblehead]

BF: You know now that I got out of offseason work I'm not gonna spend much time in the filmroom studying defenses or the gameplan right?

MM: Why would you, your a spoiled rich athlete that always gets his way.

[Pugger]

These are funny, but in all seriousness MM will probably look BF in the eye and say "Brett, are you 100% committed to playing football and all the work that goes with it?" Brett's response and demeaner will be key in determining if Favre is on the practice field at 1265 tomorrow or not...

[Harlan Huckleby]

I think McCarthy is having this meeting just to delay FAvre's return to the practice field. Already the team is screwing him, he'll never get a fair chance.


BRING BACK BRETT!

BRING BACK BRETT!

BRING BACK BRETT!

[neil38133]

MM and everyone else associated with the Packers should be more than fed up with Favre's antics this off season. He has put the team, team management, and the fans in a difficult and embarrassing position because he could not make his mind up, and because what HE wanted was more important than what was best for the team. I don't see any excuse for all of this from a grown man.
Sure, I change my mind sometimes, but I don't expect everyone else to bend over backwards to adjust every time I do. That is just childish and self centered.

[SnakeLH2006]

MM: So Brett are you 100% committed to this team?
BF: Did you see all the fans w/ signs outside chanting my name?
MM: Brett, are you 100% on board?
BF: Am I starting?
MM: If you're committed there will be an open competition.
BF: C'mon Mike. Did you see AR last night. "Solid??" Me and Deanna were laughing our asses off in the skybox.
MM: Is that why you came back?? (angered)
BF: Actually I was inspired by all the Youtube tribute videos for me as of late.
MM: Ted is pretty pissed by all this.
BF: Fuck him. So is Randy. :lol:

[The Leaper]

Hopefully, this doesn't have anything to do with a bra.

[FritzDontBlitz]

MM: So Brett are you 100% committed to this team?
BF: Did you see all the fans w/ signs outside chanting my name?
MM: Brett, are you 100% on board?
BF: Am I starting?
MM: If you're committed there will be an open competition.
BF: C'mon Mike. Did you see AR last night. "Solid??" Me and Deanna were laughing our asses off in the skybox.
MM: Is that why you came back?? (angered)
BF: Actually I was inspired by all the Youtube tribute videos for me as of late.
MM: Ted is pretty pissed by all this.
BF: Fuck him. So is Randy. :lol:

Dude, you're cracking me up over here.

I am not sure why M3 is still wasting time with the silly posturing when he knows damn well that everybody in America has heard about last night's clunker by A-Rod. They've already lost the PR war, so why keep fighting it? I like Woody's comments after the scrimmage, having only been with the team for two years he's still about to keep an objective perspective about the whole thing.

[Fritz]

I would like to hear that conversation. There have been several comments (nothing direct) from MM and from others with the Packers that make believe MM is extremely fed up with how Favre handled this off-season.

I think some of the comments have been fairly direct. His most recent public comment, something about "even now" there's some waffling or uncertainty, reads to me like a man who is p-i-s-s-e-d off. I think he's going to rake Favre over the coals - if Favre can't give a straight "Hell yes I'm committed, extra film work and practice and the whole shebang" answer, then I think Favre will be flying to Minneapolis in a couple of days.

[sharpe1027]

Dude, you're cracking me up over here.

I am not sure why M3 is still wasting time with the silly posturing when he knows damn well that everybody in America has heard about last night's clunker by A-Rod. They've already lost the PR war, so why keep fighting it? I like Woody's comments after the scrimmage, having only been with the team for two years he's still about to keep an objective perspective about the whole thing.

Both sides lost the PR war. Personally, I think that the Packer's organization came out looking better. I don't see how Favre can look good after taking personal shots at the team's GM and coach and releasing comments made in personal conversations for no other purpose but to make the other side look bad.

[FritzDontBlitz]

Dude, you're cracking me up over here.

I am not sure why M3 is still wasting time with the silly posturing when he knows damn well that everybody in America has heard about last night's clunker by A-Rod. They've already lost the PR war, so why keep fighting it? I like Woody's comments after the scrimmage, having only been with the team for two years he's still about to keep an objective perspective about the whole thing.

Both sides lost the PR war. Personally, I think that the Packer's organization came out looking better. I don't see how Favre can look good after taking personal shots at the team's GM and coach and releasing comments made in personal conversations for no other purpose but to make the other side look bad.

The only way Favre loses the PR war is if he fails his physical or stinks up the joint after winning the starting role and gives M3 the pleasure of benching him. That can still happen, but the organization has definitely lost this phase of the battle.

[Pacopete4]

I agree.. everyone media outlet I've listened to today has talked about how Favre has the upper hand and that the Packers backed down to him... pretty much calling them pussies... it kinda goes back to my other points... Brett owns this organization because they need him in the future after football... it all reverts back to money as lame as that is..

[HarveyWallbangers]

You better hope your boy plays really well this year, and doesn't lay another playoff stinker.

[sharpe1027]

The only way Favre loses the PR war is if he fails his physical or stinks up the joint after winning the starting role and gives M3 the pleasure of benching him. That can still happen, but the organization has definitely lost this phase of the battle.

I don't see how benching him is a win for the organization. This isn't a win for one side if Favre plays and a win for the other side if he doesn't. If Favre does well and starts, it is a win for both sides. If Favre struggles, it is a loss for both sides.

[Pacopete4]

You better hope your boy plays really well this year, and doesn't lay another playoff stinker.


haha, oh ya.. shouldn't you be hoping for that too, "packer fan"?

[The Leaper]

You better hope your boy plays really well this year, and doesn't lay another playoff stinker.

Are you talking about Favre or McCarthy...because the comment applies to both equally IMO. Favre threw a bad INT, and McCarthy and his crew got horrifically outcoached.

[Gunakor]

Dude, you're cracking me up over here.

I am not sure why M3 is still wasting time with the silly posturing when he knows damn well that everybody in America has heard about last night's clunker by A-Rod. They've already lost the PR war, so why keep fighting it? I like Woody's comments after the scrimmage, having only been with the team for two years he's still about to keep an objective perspective about the whole thing.


Put things about last night into perspective. He was 8-20 with an INT, which isn't very good at all. Not all of his incompletions were on target, of that you can be sure. But at least 4 or 5 of his incompletions were drops by the WR's. I saw him it Ruve in the hands twice, one Ruve dropped and the other Pat Lee made a great play on to knock it out of Ruve's hands. I saw Driver uncharacteristically drop one too. I'm not saying even those passes were perfect, but a rule of football is if you are a WR and the ball hits you in the hands you HAVE to catch it. If the ball hits you in the hands and you don't catch it that is your fault, not teh QB's. So A-Rod could have easily been 12-20 or 13-20, which isn't spectacular but isn't horrible either. Assuming those drops would have happened even if it were #4 throwing the ball, what's the difference??

[Gunakor]

You better hope your boy plays really well this year, and doesn't lay another playoff stinker.

Are you talking about Favre or McCarthy...because the comment applies to both equally IMO. Favre threw a bad INT, and McCarthy and his crew got horrifically outcoached.


Very true. Abandoning the run in a clutch playoff game is akin to throwing in the towel. Especially in sub zero degree weather.

[Patler]

I would like to hear that conversation. There have been several comments (nothing direct) from MM and from others with the Packers that make believe MM is extremely fed up with how Favre handled this off-season.

I think some of the comments have been fairly direct. His most recent public comment, something about "even now" there's some waffling or uncertainty, reads to me like a man who is p-i-s-s-e-d off. I think he's going to rake Favre over the coals - if Favre can't give a straight "Hell yes I'm committed, extra film work and practice and the whole shebang" answer, then I think Favre will be flying to Minneapolis in a couple of days.

Would not surprise me in the least.

[Patler]

Dude, you're cracking me up over here.

I am not sure why M3 is still wasting time with the silly posturing when he knows damn well that everybody in America has heard about last night's clunker by A-Rod. They've already lost the PR war, so why keep fighting it? I like Woody's comments after the scrimmage, having only been with the team for two years he's still about to keep an objective perspective about the whole thing.


Put things about last night into perspective. He was 8-20 with an INT, which isn't very good at all. Not all of his incompletions were on target, of that you can be sure. But at least 4 or 5 of his incompletions were drops by the WR's. I saw him it Ruve in the hands twice, one Ruve dropped and the other Pat Lee made a great play on to knock it out of Ruve's hands. I saw Driver uncharacteristically drop one too. I'm not saying even those passes were perfect, but a rule of football is if you are a WR and the ball hits you in the hands you HAVE to catch it. If the ball hits you in the hands and you don't catch it that is your fault, not teh QB's. So A-Rod could have easily been 12-20 or 13-20, which isn't spectacular but isn't horrible either. Assuming those drops would have happened even if it were #4 throwing the ball, what's the difference??

...and the interception was on the "last play of the half" in their two-minute drill simulation. They said the clock had run out.

[HarveyWallbangers]

You better hope your boy plays really well this year, and doesn't lay another playoff stinker.

haha, oh ya.. shouldn't you be hoping for that too, "packer fan"?

Of course, I do. But all of that pressure that was going to be on Rodgers is on Favre now, and it's going to be twice as bad. I just hope he's up to it emotionally. I was quite concerned after watching him talk about what a toll it took on him last year.

[HarveyWallbangers]

You better hope your boy plays really well this year, and doesn't lay another playoff stinker.

Are you talking about Favre or McCarthy...because the comment applies to both equally IMO. Favre threw a bad INT, and McCarthy and his crew got horrifically outcoached.

Very true. Abandoning the run in a clutch playoff game is akin to throwing in the towel. Especially in sub zero degree weather.

I can agree with that. McCarthy has some proving to do--just like Favre.

[HowardRoark]

BF: What's a Rubicon?
MM: (Blank stare) Hell if I know.
BF: (Blank stare) Can I have one?
MM: (Blank stare)

[SnakeLH2006]

BF: What's a Rubicon?
MM: (Blank stare) Hell if I know.
BF: (Blank stare) Can I have one?
MM: (Blank stare)
BF: I'll give Aaron a hug for a Rubicon.
MM: (Awkward Silence)
BF: (Confused Look, Looks at New Text Messages on Phone from Ed Werder)
MM: (Gets Hologram Projection on Monitor from TT in Dark Jedi Robe...Puts Head in Hands and Sighs)
BF: (Looks Nervously at Monitor then Back at Phone) Hey Mike, Ed texted me that Deanna wants to know if I'll be home for supper tonight? :lol:

[SnakeLH2006]

You better hope your boy plays really well this year, and doesn't lay another playoff stinker.

haha, oh ya.. shouldn't you be hoping for that too, "packer fan"?

Of course, I do. But all of that pressure that was going to be on Rodgers is on Favre now, and it's going to be twice as bad. I just hope he's up to it emotionally. I was quite concerned after watching him talk about what a toll it took on him last year.

In all seriousness though, I'm thinking the onus is on Arod, not Favre, Arod looked shaky last night and a little pissy in his post-interview last night (as would have I in his shoes) but the worst is over for Favre after his meeting (Christ he had legions tracking his Cessna last night, then had a helicopter following his Escalade to his house last night, with a police escort). Yea, he brought it on himself, yet he obviously wants to play to go through all this shit, and I don't think he's felt he's had to prove anything for years. Perhaps (I doubt it) he has an ever better year this year as I'm sure he needed/needs a wake up call from McCarthy at tonight's meeting. Just my 10 cents, and I hope for the best for AR and Brett, yet this is definitely in Favre's favor as now he just gets to play football. :wink:

[Pacopete4]

You better hope your boy plays really well this year, and doesn't lay another playoff stinker.

haha, oh ya.. shouldn't you be hoping for that too, "packer fan"?

Of course, I do. But all of that pressure that was going to be on Rodgers is on Favre now, and it's going to be twice as bad. I just hope he's up to it emotionally. I was quite concerned after watching him talk about what a toll it took on him last year.

In all seriousness though, I'm thinking the onus is on Arod, not Favre, Arod looked shaky last night and a little pissy in his post-interview last night (as would have I in his shoes) but the worst is over for Favre after his meeting (Christ he had legions tracking his Cessna last night, then had a helicopter following his Escalade to his house last night, with a police escort). Yea, he brought it on himself, yet he obviously wants to play to go through all this shit, and I don't think he's felt he's had to prove anything for years. Perhaps (I doubt it) he has an ever better year this year as I'm sure he needed/needs a wake up call from McCarthy at tonight's meeting. Just my 10 cents, and I hope for the best for AR and Brett, yet this is definitely in Favre's favor as now he just gets to play football. :wink:


I semi agree... but if Favre is truly back it is for the right reasons and that is he will give us blood, sweat, and tears that he's been giving us for 16 years now.. he'll bust his ass and hopefully in Feb we'll have something to show for it

[HarveyWallbangers]

So, the Favre backers won't even admit that Favre has a ton of pressure on him this year? What do you think the backlash will be if he has a bad season? I think it will be strong because a lot of people will know that he didn't put in the necessary work this offseason to give himself the best chance to succeed.

If he's the starting QB for the Packers, I'll be hoping he does well though. I hope I'm wrong that he might struggle.

[Pacopete4]

So, the Favre backers won't even admit that Favre has a ton of pressure on him this year? What do you think the backlash will be if he has a bad season? I think it will be strong because a lot of people will know that he didn't put in the necessary work this offseason to give himself the best chance to succeed.

If he's the starting QB for the Packers, I'll be hoping he does well though. I hope I'm wrong that he might struggle.


Harv, I think youre feeling of him having a bad season is due to the situation we're in because I dont think if he retired you'd even have a bad thought about it and you'd probably be jacked up for the season... the man is full of talent and it'll show.. like usual

[Gunakor]

So, the Favre backers won't even admit that Favre has a ton of pressure on him this year? What do you think the backlash will be if he has a bad season? I think it will be strong because a lot of people will know that he didn't put in the necessary work this offseason to give himself the best chance to succeed.

If he's the starting QB for the Packers, I'll be hoping he does well though. I hope I'm wrong that he might struggle.


Harv, I think youre feeling of him having a bad season is due to the situation we're in because I dont think if he retired you'd even have a bad thought about it and you'd probably be jacked up for the season... the man is full of talent and it'll show.. like usual


I'd be more comfortable with Favre if Favre had put in the offseason work required by MM. Remember now when Favre did NOT put in that offseason work in the past he has played undisciplined and struggled at times. Last year and during the Holmgren era, when Favre did in fact put in the offseason work, he was a much better QB. It's not a stretch to think that this year we'll get the Favre that struggles because he didn't put in the offseason work rather than the MVP Favre who has put in that work.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Harv, I think youre feeling of him having a bad season is due to the situation we're in because I dont think if he retired you'd even have a bad thought about it and you'd probably be jacked up for the season... the man is full of talent and it'll show.. like usual

I was worried about him with his comments about how emotionally draining the season was for him (and his play suffered down the stretch).

More than anything, his lack of commitment this offseason has me worried. You don't do well in the NFL by not being 100% committed all offseason. That's just the way it works.

If he had said in March that he was coming back, I'd be mildly worried after seeing the way he looked in the NFC Championship Game and not knowing he couldn't enjoy the fruits of a 13-3 season. I'm really worried know that he half-assed it all offseason. That offseason work is important. Unfortunately, I think we'll see how important it is this season.

[Pacopete4]

So, the Favre backers won't even admit that Favre has a ton of pressure on him this year? What do you think the backlash will be if he has a bad season? I think it will be strong because a lot of people will know that he didn't put in the necessary work this offseason to give himself the best chance to succeed.

If he's the starting QB for the Packers, I'll be hoping he does well though. I hope I'm wrong that he might struggle.


Harv, I think youre feeling of him having a bad season is due to the situation we're in because I dont think if he retired you'd even have a bad thought about it and you'd probably be jacked up for the season... the man is full of talent and it'll show.. like usual


I'd be more comfortable with Favre if Favre had put in the offseason work required by MM. Remember now when Favre did NOT put in that offseason work in the past he has played undisciplined and struggled at times. Last year and during the Holmgren era, when Favre did in fact put in the offseason work, he was a much better QB. It's not a stretch to think that this year we'll get the Favre that struggles because he didn't put in the offseason work rather than the MVP Favre who has put in that work.



Gunakor.. understandable you'd have your doubts about his work.. but were you with him down there? It sure sounds to me that he was busting his ass to get ready for the season... I even read that he's thrown more in this offseason than he did in the past... remember that he does it on his own and gets ready that way.. if you mean not ready for the playbook.. well im sure he's ran every play we've got a million times

[The Leaper]

I'm not as concerned with the offseason stuff either.

It is possible that Favre might actually last longer this season because he didn't kill himself in workouts during the offseason. Sometimes, a break from overworking yourself is a good thing.

I'm not saying that WILL happen...just that I'm not going to sit here and guess that Favre can't keep himself in shape. The guy is a professional athlete...and has been for 17 years. He knows what to do.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Gunakor.. understandable you'd have your doubts about his work.. but were you with him down there? It sure sounds to me that he was busting his ass to get ready for the season... I even read that he's thrown more in this offseason than he did in the past... remember that he does it on his own and gets ready that way.. if you mean not ready for the playbook.. well im sure he's ran every play we've got a million times

You can't simulate OTAs and minicamps down in Mississippi. It's not just the physical part, but it's the installs, it's the timing with the new receivers, it's the leadership you can instill by being at the OTAs and minicamps.

[Pacopete4]

So what did teams do before OTA's and minicamps?... its football and the guy knows how to play it

[The Leaper]

You can't simulate OTAs and minicamps down in Mississippi. It's not just the physical part, but it's the installs, it's the timing with the new receivers, it's the leadership you can instill by being at the OTAs and minicamps.

Yawn.

Like I said before...Peyton Manning is going to miss ALL OF TRAINING CAMP. I'm betting when he comes back, it won't take him long to get back in the swing of things. Wanna bet against that?

Sure, some things were missed...but it isn't some kind of huge deal that makes it impossible for a QB to contribute in the coming season. Far from it, actually.

[Pacopete4]

You can't simulate OTAs and minicamps down in Mississippi. It's not just the physical part, but it's the installs, it's the timing with the new receivers, it's the leadership you can instill by being at the OTAs and minicamps.

Yawn.

Like I said before...Peyton Manning is going to miss ALL OF TRAINING CAMP. I'm betting when he comes back, it won't take him long to get back in the swing of things. Wanna bet against that?

Sure, some things were missed...but it isn't some kind of huge deal that makes it impossible for a QB to contribute in the coming season. Far from it, actually.



Oh come on Leaper... Favre isn't in Mannings league anymore... oh wait, I forgot about last season...... :twisted:

[Chevelle2]

You can't simulate OTAs and minicamps down in Mississippi. It's not just the physical part, but it's the installs, it's the timing with the new receivers, it's the leadership you can instill by being at the OTAs and minicamps.

Yawn.

Like I said before...Peyton Manning is going to miss ALL OF TRAINING CAMP. I'm betting when he comes back, it won't take him long to get back in the swing of things. Wanna bet against that?

Sure, some things were missed...but it isn't some kind of huge deal that makes it impossible for a QB to contribute in the coming season. Far from it, actually.


Oh come on Leaper... Favre isn't in Mannings league anymore... oh wait, I forgot about last season...... :twisted:


Peyton > Favre.

Sorry, but its true.

[HarveyWallbangers]

We'll see. Proof is in the pudding. Manning did practice some, and he was at all of the OTAs and minicamps.

[SnakeLH2006]

You can't simulate OTAs and minicamps down in Mississippi. It's not just the physical part, but it's the installs, it's the timing with the new receivers, it's the leadership you can instill by being at the OTAs and minicamps.

Yawn.

Like I said before...Peyton Manning is going to miss ALL OF TRAINING CAMP. I'm betting when he comes back, it won't take him long to get back in the swing of things. Wanna bet against that?

Sure, some things were missed...but it isn't some kind of huge deal that makes it impossible for a QB to contribute in the coming season. Far from it, actually.

Yeah, I think that this is getting blown out of proportion. Brett will be fine. I can't imagine any in the league who has more coaching/playbook knowledge/practice reps than Brett. Even McMarthy has said Favre is like another coach out there. All we gotta worry about is Brett being in top shape and according to a 3pm CST ESPN live report his physical went fine.

[Zool]

Will they retire his jersey with him in it?

[packers11]

Peyton > Favre.

Sorry, but its true.

Right now... Yes...

Back in Favre's prime? No...

[Pacopete4]

Will they retire his jersey with him in it?


If you are referring to the #4 night on the opener.. it has been postponed... but you could be making a joke as well

[Pacopete4]

Peyton > Favre.

Sorry, but its true.

Right now... Yes...

Back in Favre's prime? No...


isn't it great that even that is debatable when Favre is 38 going on 39... he's so fuckin good... i love it

[pittstang5]

Just saw on ESPN that MM is supposed to meet with the media at 9:15 (Eastern) tonight. Hope it's televised. I'm very anxious to see what he says.

[Chevelle2]

Peyton > Favre.

Sorry, but its true.

Right now... Yes...

Back in Favre's prime? No...


isn't it great that even that is debatable when Favre is 38 going on 39... he's so fuckin good... i love it


Its not debatable. Manning owns him on the class scale as well.

[FritzDontBlitz]

Dude, you're cracking me up over here.

I am not sure why M3 is still wasting time with the silly posturing when he knows damn well that everybody in America has heard about last night's clunker by A-Rod. They've already lost the PR war, so why keep fighting it? I like Woody's comments after the scrimmage, having only been with the team for two years he's still about to keep an objective perspective about the whole thing.


Put things about last night into perspective. He was 8-20 with an INT, which isn't very good at all. Not all of his incompletions were on target, of that you can be sure. But at least 4 or 5 of his incompletions were drops by the WR's. I saw him it Ruve in the hands twice, one Ruve dropped and the other Pat Lee made a great play on to knock it out of Ruve's hands. I saw Driver uncharacteristically drop one too. I'm not saying even those passes were perfect, but a rule of football is if you are a WR and the ball hits you in the hands you HAVE to catch it. If the ball hits you in the hands and you don't catch it that is your fault, not teh QB's. So A-Rod could have easily been 12-20 or 13-20, which isn't spectacular but isn't horrible either. Assuming those drops would have happened even if it were #4 throwing the ball, what's the difference??

I think you need to compare A-Rod's performance this year to last years scrimmage. He didn't even match his own production last year. I am not comparing him to Favre. The drops could easily be a timing thing. They are accustomed to Brett but not to A-Rod yet. The main thing I am concerned about with A-Rod is durability and handling the pressure to perform. Last night was an aberration I hope, but if it was supposed to be his big debut it left much to be desired.

[Pacopete4]

Ya, it seemed as though he already buckled under the pressure..

[HarveyWallbangers]

isn't it great that even that is debatable when Favre is 38 going on 39... he's so fuckin good... i love it

You are to Favre lovers what Tex is to conservatives. I hope Favre has a good year. I'm done talking about it.

[SnakeLH2006]

Peyton > Favre.

Sorry, but its true.

Right now... Yes...

Back in Favre's prime? No...


isn't it great that even that is debatable when Favre is 38 going on 39... he's so fuckin good... i love it


Its not debatable. Manning owns him on the class scale as well.

Debate this.

http://www.truveo.com/Peyton-Manning-SNL-United-Way-Skit-by-DrDoom/id/782799462

1:42 had me cracking up hard. :lol: Just awesome.

[Pacopete4]

haha thats a funny SNL clip.. one of the only times ive liked him

[FritzDontBlitz]

Ya, it seemed as though he already buckled under the pressure..

Based on M3's post scrimmage interview it sounds like he ain't holding up too well either.

[]{ilr]3]

Peyton > Favre.

Sorry, but its true.

Right now... Yes...

Back in Favre's prime? No...


isn't it great that even that is debatable when Favre is 38 going on 39... he's so fuckin good... i love it


Its not debatable. Manning owns him on the class scale as well.

I think pretty much all of Mannings teammates hate him. They do thier job because they know he can win football games, but when it comes right down to it, I think they hate his guts. Favre always seemed to have the ability to make a player give everything he had and risk injury playing for/with him. I think that was why people liked him so much as well. I used to think that way of him. I dont anymore.

[Pacopete4]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPc6Dxq12t4


I'd love to know what Jeff Saturday, Mannings center, thinks of his QB personally...


seemed as though Favre's ceneters love him... maybe he's more gentle

[SnakeLH2006]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPc6Dxq12t4


I'd love to know what Jeff Saturday, Mannings center, thinks of his QB personally...


seemed as though Favre's ceneters love him... maybe he's more gentle

Holy fuck! I was crying like Peyton too. HAHAHAHAHA :lol: AWESOME!

[SudsMcBucky]

if Favre can't give a straight "Hell yes I'm committed, extra film work and practice and the whole shebang" answer, then I think Favre will be flying to Minneapolis in a couple of days.

Maybe that's been Brett's hope all along???? Maybe this will be his way of bringing about what he's always wanted.....

[Pacopete4]

if Favre can't give a straight "Hell yes I'm committed, extra film work and practice and the whole shebang" answer, then I think Favre will be flying to Minneapolis in a couple of days.

Maybe that's been Brett's hope all along???? Maybe this will be his way of bringing about what he's always wanted.....


I love your picture but I really hope not.. that'd be awful

[SnakeLH2006]

if Favre can't give a straight "Hell yes I'm committed, extra film work and practice and the whole shebang" answer, then I think Favre will be flying to Minneapolis in a couple of days.

Maybe that's been Brett's hope all along???? Maybe this will be his way of bringing about what he's always wanted.....

How will flying to Minneapolis bring about him regaining his starter QB position for the Green Bay Packers?? :whist:

I'm sure they hammer out some ground rules for what they say from here on out to the media. But even the Vikes say the same...

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8412750

Childress: We have not discussed Favre with Pack

Updated: August 4, 2008, 4:26 PM EST MANKATO, Minn.

(AP) - Minnesota Vikings coach Brad Childress says his team has not had contact with the Green Bay Packers regarding a potential trade for quarterback Brett Favre.

Childress dismissed a report in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel that said the Packers have made preliminary contact with the Vikings about Favre. He was reinstated on Monday.

Green Bay has filed tampering charges against the Vikings for alleged inappropriate contact between the Vikings coaching staff and Favre this summer. Childress says he had no update on the outcome of that investigation.

[Jimx29]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPc6Dxq12t4


I'd love to know what Jeff Saturday, Mannings center, thinks of his QB personally...


seemed as though Favre's ceneters love him... maybe he's more gentleFFS, it seems as though that clip blew out my speakers.... :?

[SudsMcBucky]

if Favre can't give a straight "Hell yes I'm committed, extra film work and practice and the whole shebang" answer, then I think Favre will be flying to Minneapolis in a couple of days.

Maybe that's been Brett's hope all along???? Maybe this will be his way of bringing about what he's always wanted.....

How will flying to Minneapolis bring about him regaining his starter QB position for the Green Bay Packers?? :whist:



The insuation is that he'd be on a plane to MN as part of a trade. My comment was that maybe this is what he's wanted all along. :huh:

[Gunakor]

Dude, you're cracking me up over here.

I am not sure why M3 is still wasting time with the silly posturing when he knows damn well that everybody in America has heard about last night's clunker by A-Rod. They've already lost the PR war, so why keep fighting it? I like Woody's comments after the scrimmage, having only been with the team for two years he's still about to keep an objective perspective about the whole thing.


Put things about last night into perspective. He was 8-20 with an INT, which isn't very good at all. Not all of his incompletions were on target, of that you can be sure. But at least 4 or 5 of his incompletions were drops by the WR's. I saw him it Ruve in the hands twice, one Ruve dropped and the other Pat Lee made a great play on to knock it out of Ruve's hands. I saw Driver uncharacteristically drop one too. I'm not saying even those passes were perfect, but a rule of football is if you are a WR and the ball hits you in the hands you HAVE to catch it. If the ball hits you in the hands and you don't catch it that is your fault, not teh QB's. So A-Rod could have easily been 12-20 or 13-20, which isn't spectacular but isn't horrible either. Assuming those drops would have happened even if it were #4 throwing the ball, what's the difference??

I think you need to compare A-Rod's performance this year to last years scrimmage. He didn't even match his own production last year. I am not comparing him to Favre. The drops could easily be a timing thing. They are accustomed to Brett but not to A-Rod yet. The main thing I am concerned about with A-Rod is durability and handling the pressure to perform. Last night was an aberration I hope, but if it was supposed to be his big debut it left much to be desired.

The media hyped it up as A-Rods big debut. It wasn't, as least not in my book. His big debut is supposed to come against the Minnesota Vikings on Monday, September 8th. Whether or not that is the case remains to be seen.

[LL2]

Just saw on ESPN that MM is supposed to meet with the media at 9:15 (Eastern) tonight. Hope it's televised. I'm very anxious to see what he says.

That's kind of late to have a press conference isn't it?

[gex]

Can anyone dig up the hourly breakdown of all the ota's?
I don't remember them being any more than 2hours-lunch-2hours-go home. Not alot really happens? Its not twoadays.
I could be wrong

[SnakeLH2006]

if Favre can't give a straight "Hell yes I'm committed, extra film work and practice and the whole shebang" answer, then I think Favre will be flying to Minneapolis in a couple of days.

Maybe that's been Brett's hope all along???? Maybe this will be his way of bringing about what he's always wanted.....

How will flying to Minneapolis bring about him regaining his starter QB position for the Green Bay Packers?? :whist:



The insuation is that he'd be on a plane to MN as part of a trade. My comment was that maybe this is what he's wanted all along. :huh:

Yea, I know, that's why I thought I'd use the subtle sarcasm smiley instead of this obvious one. :roll:

[MOBB DEEP]

needs to get some fat off his chest...heart attack waitn to happen. food aint THAT good imho