Addicted to that rush

[VegasPackFan]

I was just an average Packer fan. You know the story – basking in the glory of the past while enduring the agony of the present. It seemed that my team would never truly compete in the NFL again. Maybe the league left my team behind. I continued to root for them with the foreboding feeling that my efforts were always in vain.

Then this kid from Mississippi shows up one day. He is talented, he is raw, he has a cannon for an arm, and he is a wild child. Early on, I had to wonder if this kid (or the coaching staff) would ever rein all that “juice” in.

Game after game, this kid has my emotions going up and down, up and down. The brilliant throw is followed by utter stupidity. The chances he takes pay off big time, and then he crushes me with a ridiculous decision. The ups and the downs are hitting me like waves, this career I am watching that propels my beloved team into the stratosphere is the same “juice” that could cause it all to crash down in a blaze of glory.

And so for many years, we soar like eagles on the sheer brilliance of this football god, and we suffer the agony of the risks that were not fated to pay off. It is simply poetic, how this drama plays out. We are back in the spotlight, the Lombardi Trophy returns to its rightful place, and all is well.

The only problem is that I have become addicted to the “juice”. Sometimes I don’t even care how the game turns out, I just like to see that the kid is taking his shot, he is hanging it out there, he is thrilling me with his daring escapades. I want that adrenaline running through me, win or lose. I have become a junkie – first class, all the way.

You take my drug away and I am pissed, man. How dare you do this to me. I just need one more year (maybe two). Let me ride those ups and downs, let me taste the adulation of victory and the crushing feel of defeat. I want it all, as long as I get my “juice”.

This new guy, I’m not so sure about. How do I get my fix? He doesn’t take the chances, he doesn’t lay it all on the line. He’s a “system” guy. Oh my God, I don’t think I can handle the sheer madness of steadiness, the droning monotony of going through the progressions and making the correct throw as it was drawn up in the boardroom.

Where is the thrill of watching my guy rear back, guns ablaze, launching the rock only to wonder what I will see as the camera pans back to show whatever will be downfield? I lived for so many years to thrill in the exaltation of seeing the receiver two steps ahead, catching that ball and strolling into the end zone, or at the same time, seeing that same receiver triple covered and my hopes and dreams going up in flames as the game is lost on a wing and a prayer.

The new era has no room for such flights of fancy. It’s all about the system. Draw it up and execute. We will probably still win a lot of games in the next few years, but how in the hell am I gonna get my fix?

[Joemailman]

I know what you mean. Favre was exciting even when he did the wrong thing. But I remember how depressed I was when James Lofton was traded. It didn't last too long.

[GrnBay007]

Very nice Vegas! I feel the same. It's hard to let go. I'm not sure if letting go via retirement or going to the Jets is more difficult. At least this way we get another year to watch him, but I sure hope it all ends well. He brought on a first for me. First time ever I will be cheering for an NFC and AFC team.

Go Packers!

Go Jets!

[LL2]

Part of being addicted to that rush came the occasional heartbreak that Favre the risk taker gave us.

I like Rodgers and he looked good last night.

[Partial]

I'm addicted to passion as well. Ol' porn stashy will never be as entertaining unfortunately.

[GBRulz]

Great post, Vegas and I feel the exact same way. There were times when Favre made me so mad, but on the other hand, I never got tired of watching him play. I don't think we'll ever see another QB play with the same passion for the game as him.

I say we have a posters gathering at his HOF induction...oh 8 years from now :wink:

[mraynrand]

put this on the front page

[Maxie the Taxi]

Favre was (IS) a once in a lifetime football talent. I've argued he's the best football player ever (not necessarily best QB) because of just what you wrote. You hit it on the head. I can't even think of another player in any Wisconsin sport franchise that is comparable to Favre.

I often told myself, watching him years ago, to enjoy it now, to not take him for granted because one day it will end. And it did.

I was lucky enough to live through the glory years of the Packers and had much the same feeling, although not so single player oriented. Just as I look back on the 60's Packers with fond and irreplaceable memories, so we will all eventually look back on Favre's era.

But as they say. Life goes on. So do sports and so do the Green Bay Packers.

[AtlPackFan]

I was just an average Packer fan. You know the story – basking in the glory of the past while enduring the agony of the present. It seemed that my team would never truly compete in the NFL again. Maybe the league left my team behind. I continued to root for them with the foreboding feeling that my efforts were always in vain.

Then this kid from Mississippi shows up one day. He is talented, he is raw, he has a cannon for an arm, and he is a wild child. Early on, I had to wonder if this kid (or the coaching staff) would ever rein all that “juice” in.

Game after game, this kid has my emotions going up and down, up and down. The brilliant throw is followed by utter stupidity. The chances he takes pay off big time, and then he crushes me with a ridiculous decision. The ups and the downs are hitting me like waves, this career I am watching that propels my beloved team into the stratosphere is the same “juice” that could cause it all to crash down in a blaze of glory.

And so for many years, we soar like eagles on the sheer brilliance of this football god, and we suffer the agony of the risks that were not fated to pay off. It is simply poetic, how this drama plays out. We are back in the spotlight, the Lombardi Trophy returns to its rightful place, and all is well.

The only problem is that I have become addicted to the “juice”. Sometimes I don’t even care how the game turns out, I just like to see that the kid is taking his shot, he is hanging it out there, he is thrilling me with his daring escapades. I want that adrenaline running through me, win or lose. I have become a junkie – first class, all the way.

You take my drug away and I am pissed, man. How dare you do this to me. I just need one more year (maybe two). Let me ride those ups and downs, let me taste the adulation of victory and the crushing feel of defeat. I want it all, as long as I get my “juice”.

This new guy, I’m not so sure about. How do I get my fix? He doesn’t take the chances, he doesn’t lay it all on the line. He’s a “system” guy. Oh my God, I don’t think I can handle the sheer madness of steadiness, the droning monotony of going through the progressions and making the correct throw as it was drawn up in the boardroom.

Where is the thrill of watching my guy rear back, guns ablaze, launching the rock only to wonder what I will see as the camera pans back to show whatever will be downfield? I lived for so many years to thrill in the exaltation of seeing the receiver two steps ahead, catching that ball and strolling into the end zone, or at the same time, seeing that same receiver triple covered and my hopes and dreams going up in flames as the game is lost on a wing and a prayer.

The new era has no room for such flights of fancy. It’s all about the system. Draw it up and execute. We will probably still win a lot of games in the next few years, but how in the hell am I gonna get my fix?


1. I've counted...The Lombardi trophy hasn't been in Green Bay in about 11 years.
2. I think Wolf, Holmgren, Reggie White and others had something to do with that success.
3. I'm sure you can find a Jets feed and get your fix.

[3irty1]

I was just an average Packer fan. You know the story – basking in the glory of the past while enduring the agony of the present. It seemed that my team would never truly compete in the NFL again. Maybe the league left my team behind. I continued to root for them with the foreboding feeling that my efforts were always in vain.

Then this kid from Mississippi shows up one day. He is talented, he is raw, he has a cannon for an arm, and he is a wild child. Early on, I had to wonder if this kid (or the coaching staff) would ever rein all that “juice” in.

Game after game, this kid has my emotions going up and down, up and down. The brilliant throw is followed by utter stupidity. The chances he takes pay off big time, and then he crushes me with a ridiculous decision. The ups and the downs are hitting me like waves, this career I am watching that propels my beloved team into the stratosphere is the same “juice” that could cause it all to crash down in a blaze of glory.

And so for many years, we soar like eagles on the sheer brilliance of this football god, and we suffer the agony of the risks that were not fated to pay off. It is simply poetic, how this drama plays out. We are back in the spotlight, the Lombardi Trophy returns to its rightful place, and all is well.

The only problem is that I have become addicted to the “juice”. Sometimes I don’t even care how the game turns out, I just like to see that the kid is taking his shot, he is hanging it out there, he is thrilling me with his daring escapades. I want that adrenaline running through me, win or lose. I have become a junkie – first class, all the way.

You take my drug away and I am pissed, man. How dare you do this to me. I just need one more year (maybe two). Let me ride those ups and downs, let me taste the adulation of victory and the crushing feel of defeat. I want it all, as long as I get my “juice”.

This new guy, I’m not so sure about. How do I get my fix? He doesn’t take the chances, he doesn’t lay it all on the line. He’s a “system” guy. Oh my God, I don’t think I can handle the sheer madness of steadiness, the droning monotony of going through the progressions and making the correct throw as it was drawn up in the boardroom.

Where is the thrill of watching my guy rear back, guns ablaze, launching the rock only to wonder what I will see as the camera pans back to show whatever will be downfield? I lived for so many years to thrill in the exaltation of seeing the receiver two steps ahead, catching that ball and strolling into the end zone, or at the same time, seeing that same receiver triple covered and my hopes and dreams going up in flames as the game is lost on a wing and a prayer.

The new era has no room for such flights of fancy. It’s all about the system. Draw it up and execute. We will probably still win a lot of games in the next few years, but how in the hell am I gonna get my fix?


1. I've counted...The Lombardi trophy hasn't been in Green Bay in about 11 years.
2. I think Wolf, Holmgren, Reggie White and others had something to do with that success.
3. I'm sure you can find a Jets feed and get your fix.

VegasPackFan's not questioning any of the Packers moves, bashing anybody, or being negative at all. He/she is just going miss the most entertaining player that ever lived. Let him/her grieve.

[Tarlam!]

VegasPackFan's not questioning any of the Packers moves, bashing anybody, or being negative at all. He/she is just going miss the most entertaining player that ever lived. Let him/her grieve.


QFT.

[3irty1]

VegasPackFan's not questioning any of the Packers moves, bashing anybody, or being negative at all. He/she is just going miss the most entertaining player that ever lived. Let him/her grieve.


QFT.

Quantum field theory?

[Tarlam!]

Quoted For Truth.

It's the modern way of saying "what he said".

[3irty1]

Quoted For Truth.

It's the modern way of saying "what he said".

Ok I'm not even old. Embarrassing.

[AtlPackFan]

VegasPackFan's not questioning any of the Packers moves, bashing anybody, or being negative at all. He/she is just going miss the most entertaining player that ever lived. Let him/her grieve.

Look, I was...I am...as much a Favre fan as the next person. I know the alternative. I suffered through the 70s and 80s and the parade of bad coaches and bad quarterbacks, I cheered when it became clear they finally got it right with Wolf and then Holmgren and then Favre, I was ecstatic when they finally again won the Super Bowl and I defended Favre to anyone when he suffered his playoff hiccups.

But he retired. For whatever reason, whoever was at fault (I personally think fault should be equally shared between Favre's camp and the Packers managment) he retired. And in response the Packers drafted, planned their free agency (OK, right, TT doesn't do free agency) held their off season work outs and set up their camp with the belief that Favre wasn't going to be there.

Do I think the Packers would have been better with Favre at QB. For 1, maybe 2 years...Of course. Again - both parties are to blame for this not getting settled with Favre back in a Packers uniform. But its done. Its time to move on. For better or worse, its time to move on.

My sincerest apologies VegasPackFan for stepping on your grief. I'm just tired of this whole Favre mess and I vented in your thread...I am sorry.

This nightmare has been very disconcerting to me too. I'm tired of how long it has dragged on, I'm afraid of how much longer it probablly could continue and I'm saddened at how it has divided Packer nation. I am - first and foremost - a Green Bay Packer fan.

So go ahead...everyone...celebrate #4s career in Green and Gold, mourn his leaving if you must but then please...everyone...please...its time to move on.

[gex]

Great write up Vegas.
Atl... your about 2 weeks late on actually debating with anybody about the situation.

[bobblehead]

I didn't know the majik man was from mississippi.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

I didn't know the majik man was from mississippi.

I think you meant Bobby Douglass. :wink:

[AtlPackFan]

Great write up Vegas.
Atl... your about 2 weeks late on actually debating with anybody about the situation.

Not debating anything...just saying its time to move on.

But your right about the 2 weeks thing...actually, its probably more like a month. :oops:

[SnakeLH2006]

Part of being addicted to that rush came the occasional heartbreak that Favre the risk taker gave us.

I like Rodgers and he looked good last night.

Don't get me wrong.... a Packer fan (Arod has earn my fan status..much to prove when the games count)..

But those adrenaline moments are what makes us sports fans...

Lets say this, even the supposed "drama haters" can say this...

What current (in the past, being liberal here...but in the past 20 years) athlete did you feel, regardless of sport, could "win a game" by themselves.

1) Jordan
2) Gretsky (don't claim to know shit about NHL but he was a beast)
3) Favre

Name anyone else....Damn, and is STILL looking good in preseason, that makes it hard, seeing how I HAVE to as a Pack fan support our great team, but if we are down by 4 points with 2 min. left do we "like MM3 and TT, and Mad Mag Murphy" really think that Arod (at this point, he may be pretty good, but NEVER Favre) gets us that win?? :cry:

[VegasPackFan]

I didnt intend to start any debates with this post - it's my own little tribute.

[MJZiggy]

To be honest, before I opened the thread I thought it was gonna be a list of long running back plays....

[MOBB DEEP]

Part of being addicted to that rush came the occasional heartbreak that Favre the risk taker gave us.

I like Rodgers and he looked good last night.

Don't get me wrong.... a Packer fan (Arod has earn my fan status..much to prove when the games count)..

But those adrenaline moments are what makes us sports fans...

Lets say this, even the supposed "drama haters" can say this...

What current (in the past, being liberal here...but in the past 20 years) athlete did you feel, regardless of sport, could "win a game" by themselves.

1) Jordan
2) Gretsky (don't claim to know shit about NHL but he was a beast)
3) Favre

Name anyone else....Damn, and is STILL looking good in preseason, that makes it hard, seeing how I HAVE to as a Pack fan support our great team, but if we are down by 4 points with 2 min. left do we "like MM3 and TT, and Mad Mag Murphy" really think that Arod (at this point, he may be pretty good, but NEVER Favre) gets us that win?? :cry:



QFT

[falco]

Part of being addicted to that rush came the occasional heartbreak that Favre the risk taker gave us.

I like Rodgers and he looked good last night.

Don't get me wrong.... a Packer fan (Arod has earn my fan status..much to prove when the games count)..

But those adrenaline moments are what makes us sports fans...

Lets say this, even the supposed "drama haters" can say this...

What current (in the past, being liberal here...but in the past 20 years) athlete did you feel, regardless of sport, could "win a game" by themselves.

1) Jordan
2) Gretsky (don't claim to know shit about NHL but he was a beast)
3) Favre

Name anyone else....Damn, and is STILL looking good in preseason, that makes it hard, seeing how I HAVE to as a Pack fan support our great team, but if we are down by 4 points with 2 min. left do we "like MM3 and TT, and Mad Mag Murphy" really think that Arod (at this point, he may be pretty good, but NEVER Favre) gets us that win?? :cry:



QFT

favre stopped being able to win games by himself 10 years ago, IMHO

[MOBB DEEP]

Part of being addicted to that rush came the occasional heartbreak that Favre the risk taker gave us.

I like Rodgers and he looked good last night.

Don't get me wrong.... a Packer fan (Arod has earn my fan status..much to prove when the games count)..

But those adrenaline moments are what makes us sports fans...

Lets say this, even the supposed "drama haters" can say this...

What current (in the past, being liberal here...but in the past 20 years) athlete did you feel, regardless of sport, could "win a game" by themselves.

1) Jordan
2) Gretsky (don't claim to know shit about NHL but he was a beast)
3) Favre

Name anyone else....Damn, and is STILL looking good in preseason, that makes it hard, seeing how I HAVE to as a Pack fan support our great team, but if we are down by 4 points with 2 min. left do we "like MM3 and TT, and Mad Mag Murphy" really think that Arod (at this point, he may be pretty good, but NEVER Favre) gets us that win?? :cry:



QFT

favre stopped being able to win games by himself 10 years ago, IMHO

the last paragraph of snakes post is what i agreed with.

i admit my confidence in #4 heroics lessened over the past 3 years but in comparison to arod in those situations...

btw, pretty disappointed that brett didnt make list of top 10 clutch QBs on nfln; he made "best of the rest" b/c of his untimely ints...DAYUM

[mmmdk]

Part of being addicted to that rush came the occasional heartbreak that Favre the risk taker gave us.

I like Rodgers and he looked good last night.

Don't get me wrong.... a Packer fan (Arod has earn my fan status..much to prove when the games count)..

But those adrenaline moments are what makes us sports fans...

Lets say this, even the supposed "drama haters" can say this...

What current (in the past, being liberal here...but in the past 20 years) athlete did you feel, regardless of sport, could "win a game" by themselves.

1) Jordan
2) Gretsky (don't claim to know shit about NHL but he was a beast)
3) Favre

Name anyone else....Damn, and is STILL looking good in preseason, that makes it hard, seeing how I HAVE to as a Pack fan support our great team, but if we are down by 4 points with 2 min. left do we "like MM3 and TT, and Mad Mag Murphy" really think that Arod (at this point, he may be pretty good, but NEVER Favre) gets us that win?? :cry:



QFT

favre stopped being able to win games by himself 10 years ago, IMHO

the last paragraph of snakes post is what i agreed with.

i admit my confidence in #4 heroics lessened over the past 3 years but in comparison to arod in those situations...

btw, pretty disappointed that brett didnt make list of top 10 clutch QBs on nfln; he made "best of the rest" b/c of his untimely ints...DAYUM

I don't know...truth hurts? :satan:

[GrnBay007]

I didnt intend to start any debates with this post - it's my own little tribute.

Vegas, some people here will take any piece of info concerning Favre to start a debate on it even though they've already made their opinion known at least 200 times since June.

I enjoyed your tribute. Thanks for posting it.

[Deputy Nutz]

Some of you are just blatant cocksuckers.

Nice Post Vegas.

[The Leaper]

favre stopped being able to win games by himself 10 years ago, IMHO

Then you weren't really watching that closely.

Favre STILL has the capacity to win games all by himself...although those games are far more infrequent now than they were 10 years ago.

That is the point you may be trying to make...poorly.

[Zool]

Falco stopped being able to make points himself 200 posts ago?

[texaspackerbacker]

I didnt intend to start any debates with this post - it's my own little tribute.

Like the man said ........ There was nothing debatable--no controversy, just nice nostalgia.

I will say this, though. What we have now--I've got to stick in a PROBABLY at this point--is going to be ultimately more satisfying. A near-one man team--or at least one that lives and dies with the quality swings of a superstar IMO is a lot less substantial than "doing it right"--having a balanced team in a team game. THAT is what we have now--PROBABLY.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

favre stopped being able to win games by himself 10 years ago, IMHO

Then you weren't really watching that closely.

Favre STILL has the capacity to win games all by himself...although those games are far more infrequent now than they were 10 years ago.

That is the point you may be trying to make...poorly.

You are really splitting hairs.

And, if he is able to do it...infrequently, then he is no different than most of the QBs in the league.