Packers exploring trade for DT

[Sparkey]

Green Bay - The Green Bay Packers are so concerned about the availability of Justin Harrell and issues involving Ryan Pickett and Johnny Jolly that they're actively exploring a trade for a defensive tackle.

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=786879

[Harlan Huckleby]

that article is a couple days old. but I hope they do trade for a D-lineman. I hope the trade is for a draft pick, not an O-lineman as that article suggests.

[texaspackerbacker]

Any trade for a DLineman would be uncharacteristic of Ted Thompson. I don't think he will do it, and I hope he doesn't do it.

Jenkins and Cole can do the job; I doubt Pickett will be out for very long, and Jolly should be up to speed before too long also; And I think one of the young guys will show enough to be worth keeping. I kinda like the way Malone looks, although he has a lot to learn. Also, Jason Hunter has played some inside. I like his chances too.

Maybe we pick up somebody who gets cut; Maybe even give up like a 6th or 7th round pick, but no more than that.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Any trade for a DLineman would be uncharacteristic of Ted Thompson. I don't think he will do it, and I hope he doesn't do it.

Jenkins and Cole can do the job;

oh come on Tex. You are doing your usual thing - sticking with an ideology, and not facing facts on the ground.

I agree a trade is not the TT way, and a painful option, but Cole and Jenkins are hardly good options at DT.

[mraynrand]

Any trade for a DLineman would be uncharacteristic of Ted Thompson. I don't think he will do it, and I hope he doesn't do it.

Perhaps it's less common, but he pulled the trigger for Grant, and that worked out OK. Would you change your mind about the trade if he brought in the Grant equivalent at DT?

[mmmdk]

Any trade for a DLineman would be uncharacteristic of Ted Thompson. I don't think he will do it, and I hope he doesn't do it.

Jenkins and Cole can do the job; I doubt Pickett will be out for very long, and Jolly should be up to speed before too long also; And I think one of the young guys will show enough to be worth keeping. I kinda like the way Malone looks, although he has a lot to learn. Also, Jason Hunter has played some inside. I like his chances too.

Maybe we pick up somebody who gets cut; Maybe even give up like a 6th or 7th round pick, but no more than that.

Hunter inside??? :shock: For 2 or 3 plays maybe; Hunter is no interior lineman.

[texaspackerbacker]

Any trade for a DLineman would be uncharacteristic of Ted Thompson. I don't think he will do it, and I hope he doesn't do it.

Perhaps it's less common, but he pulled the trigger for Grant, and that worked out OK. Would you change your mind about the trade if he brought in the Grant equivalent at DT?

Hell Yeah. I said 6th or 7th rounder, but no more. The thing is, there seems to be an overall shortage of good DLinemen these days in the NFL. That helps us offensively, but lessens our chances of trading for somebody worth getting. Thompson might spot somebody else's hot prospect about to be available cheap--like Grant, but that would take some powerful luck in addition to his sharp eye for talent.

[MadScientist]

Anyone have an idea about who might be available, or which teams have surplus of DT's? I can't imagine anyone that good being available, given how the Packers kept extra last year. I suppose if the draft pick were high enough, but TT is unlikely to pay much.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Anyone have an idea about who might be available, or which teams have surplus of DT's? I can't imagine anyone that good being available, given how the Packers kept extra last year. I suppose if the draft pick were high enough, but TT is unlikely to pay much.

It will likely be somebody nobody has heard of.
:D

[Harlan Huckleby]

Hell Yeah. I said 6th or 7th rounder, but no more. The thing is, there seems to be an overall shortage of good DLinemen these days in the NFL.

How do you reconcile these two statements? You socialists just don't understand the concept of supply and demand.

The Packers are hurtin for certain on the D-Line. They otherwise have a solid team. It is time to open the old wallet and correct a fatal imbalance. Trade a #2 if thats what it takes.

[texaspackerbacker]

Hell Yeah. I said 6th or 7th rounder, but no more. The thing is, there seems to be an overall shortage of good DLinemen these days in the NFL.

How do you reconcile these two statements? You socialists just don't understand the concept of supply and demand.

The Packers are hurtin for certain on the D-Line. They otherwise have a solid team. It is time to open the old wallet and correct a fatal imbalance. Trade a #2 if thats what it takes.

The context of my comment was that I doubt Thompson will do anything significant, and I sorta hope he doesn't--if that means giving up any more than a 6th or 7th rounder.

Aynrand presented a rather unlikely "what if"--Thompson pulling off a Grant-like miracle--which, of course, I'd like to see.

To put it in the political/economic terms that you brought up, Grant was like an unexpected oil strike in the midst of high demand and low supply. The suggestion that Thompson could have another gusher come in is nice to think about, but unlikely.

[mraynrand]

Hell Yeah. I said 6th or 7th rounder, but no more. The thing is, there seems to be an overall shortage of good DLinemen these days in the NFL.

How do you reconcile these two statements? You socialists just don't understand the concept of supply and demand.

The Packers are hurtin for certain on the D-Line. They otherwise have a solid team. It is time to open the old wallet and correct a fatal imbalance. Trade a #2 if thats what it takes.

The context of my comment was that I doubt Thompson will do anything significant, and I sorta hope he doesn't--if that means giving up any more than a 6th or 7th rounder.

Aynrand presented a rather unlikely "what if"--Thompson pulling off a Grant-like miracle--which, of course, I'd like to see.

To put it in the political/economic terms that you brought up, Grant was like an unexpected oil strike in the midst of high demand and low supply. The suggestion that Thompson could have another gusher come in is nice to think about, but unlikely.

Maybe the Grant trade wasn't a miracle - Thomson obviously doesn't like to part with picks, so perhaps he just saw something others missed in Grant, and simply made a shrewd move. If he doesn't trade for a DT, I'll be much more likely to believe that he didn't find anyone worth trading for.

[Guiness]

Maybe the Grant trade wasn't a miracle - Thomson obviously doesn't like to part with picks, so perhaps he just saw something others missed in Grant, and simply made a shrewd move. If he doesn't trade for a DT, I'll be much more likely to believe that he didn't find anyone worth trading for.

I've heard that said a bunch of times, that TT is a genius because of the Grant trade. The truth is, he and MM didn't know what they had even after they got it. He was in TC, so why didn't he start week 1? Or even week 2 if he needed to get to know the O better.

Truth is, they liked him, and thought he could share some of the load, but thought he was 'just a guy' and were as surprised as anyone else by what he did the 2nd half. To think they knew he was going to be the feature back before the end of the year, and were just 'biding their time' before starting him is just pure kool-aid.

[swede]

Hell Yeah. I said 6th or 7th rounder, but no more. The thing is, there seems to be an overall shortage of good DLinemen these days in the NFL.

How do you reconcile these two statements? You socialists just don't understand the concept of supply and demand.

The Packers are hurtin for certain on the D-Line. They otherwise have a solid team. It is time to open the old wallet and correct a fatal imbalance. Trade a #2 if thats what it takes.


:lol:

[Guiness]

I wonder what Pickett's real status is? Would he be playing if it was the regular season? His hamstring has been mentioned, but now there is talk that his conditioning is off.

[Gunakor]

Maybe the Grant trade wasn't a miracle - Thomson obviously doesn't like to part with picks, so perhaps he just saw something others missed in Grant, and simply made a shrewd move. If he doesn't trade for a DT, I'll be much more likely to believe that he didn't find anyone worth trading for.

I've heard that said a bunch of times, that TT is a genius because of the Grant trade. The truth is, he and MM didn't know what they had even after they got it. He was in TC, so why didn't he start week 1? Or even week 2 if he needed to get to know the O better.

Truth is, they liked him, and thought he could share some of the load, but thought he was 'just a guy' and were as surprised as anyone else by what he did the 2nd half. To think they knew he was going to be the feature back before the end of the year, and were just 'biding their time' before starting him is just pure kool-aid.

Grant was not in our TC last season. He played last preseason for the Giants, rushing for 90 yards and a TD on 18 carries (5 ypc. avg.). TT traded for Grant just before week 1 because Morency was injured.

[Sparkey]

Anyone have an idea about who might be available, or which teams have surplus of DT's? I can't imagine anyone that good being available, given how the Packers kept extra last year. I suppose if the draft pick were high enough, but TT is unlikely to pay much.

94 Bannan, Justin DT ACT 6'3" 310 4/18/1979 7 Colorado
96 Campbell, Darrell DT ACT 6'4" 295 7/6/1981 2 Notre Dame
93 Edwards, Dwan DT ACT 6'3" 295 5/16/1981 5 Oregon State
63 Gordon, Amon DT ACT 6'2" 305 10/13/1981 3 Stanford
92 Ngata, Haloti DT ACT 6'4" 345 1/21/1984 3 Oregon
69 Parker, J'Vonne DT ACT 6'4" 325 6/7/1982 2 Rutgers
62 Solano, Salomon DT ACT 6'3" 321 9/19/1985 1 No College
72 Williams, Lorenzo DT ACT 6'0" 310 10/23/1984 0 Missouri

The Ravens have a whole slew of DT's on their roster and only one DE, an area we have extra. If they can agree on value, seems like the potential for a player/player swap is there.

[mraynrand]

Maybe the Grant trade wasn't a miracle - Thomson obviously doesn't like to part with picks, so perhaps he just saw something others missed in Grant, and simply made a shrewd move. If he doesn't trade for a DT, I'll be much more likely to believe that he didn't find anyone worth trading for.

I've heard that said a bunch of times, that TT is a genius because of the Grant trade. The truth is, he and MM didn't know what they had even after they got it. He was in TC, so why didn't he start week 1? Or even week 2 if he needed to get to know the O better.

Truth is, they liked him, and thought he could share some of the load, but thought he was 'just a guy' and were as surprised as anyone else by what he did the 2nd half. To think they knew he was going to be the feature back before the end of the year, and were just 'biding their time' before starting him is just pure kool-aid.

You'll notice I didn't say genius. I said Shrewd move, meaning they liked him - enough to trade a draft pick for him; may not have thought he'd be dominant. Thompson has actually been pretty successful with late camp, cut down pickups, and picking up a guy they need from a loaded roster is a similar way that might help them with DT, and who knows - they might have a guy in mind like grant, who would fit their system.

[The Leaper]

Maybe the Grant trade wasn't a miracle - Thomson obviously doesn't like to part with picks, so perhaps he just saw something others missed in Grant, and simply made a shrewd move.

I don't think there was anything shrewd. The Giants had too many good RBs. Thompson knew it...and asked them which one they would part with for a late round pick because we needed one. That choice was made by the Giants...not Thompson.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I don't think there was anything shrewd. The Giants had too many good RBs. Thompson knew it...and asked them which one they would part with for a late round pick because we needed one. That choice was made by the Giants...not Thompson.

Come on now. Regardless of how it went down, it was a shrewd move. Other teams had worse RBs than Derrick Ward and Ryan Grant--yet Thompson got one of those guys for a late pick. They both look mint. The story I've heard (I believe it was on JSO) is that the Giants offered Ward or Grant, and the Packers actually liked Grant more. Now, I don't know if that was a great move or not--because Ward looks like another Brian Westbrook to me. However, it was a shrewd move to know which team you could shore up your RB spot with, and to pull the trigger on the trade.

[Scott Campbell]

Maybe the Grant trade wasn't a miracle - Thomson obviously doesn't like to part with picks, so perhaps he just saw something others missed in Grant, and simply made a shrewd move.

I don't think there was anything shrewd. The Giants had too many good RBs. Thompson knew it...and asked them which one they would part with for a late round pick because we needed one. That choice was made by the Giants...not Thompson.



Getting Grant was brilliant. But the Grant move offsets the Harrell pick - for the time being anyway.

[The Leaper]

However, it was a shrewd move to know which team you could shore up your RB spot with, and to pull the trigger on the trade.

Nothing shrewd about it. The move was talked about in the press days before it actually happened. It was LOGICAL, not shrewd. It was a move that nearly all of the other GMs in the league would've made if they were in the same position as Thompson.

The point was that few teams were in the same position. RBs are a dime a dozen...to not have ANY on your roster worth a damn as a starter for the upcoming season is tough to do. However, that is precisely where Thompson had us.

He did his job and made a good move, but let's not make this into more than it is.

[texaspackerbacker]

If Grant is a small fraction below Adrian Peterson--which is how I see him, and Ward is a small fraction below Westbrook--as somebody speculated, I'll STILL take Grant over Ward every time--just as I would take Peterson over Westbrook--absolutely positively.

I didn't mean to imply that it was a "miracle" in the luck sense the way Grant turned out, but rather, that Thompson was lucky to find that kind of prospect available. He MADE the "miracle" by taking it from there and getting Grant--not only getting him, but getting him cheap.

[mraynrand]

However, it was a shrewd move to know which team you could shore up your RB spot with, and to pull the trigger on the trade.

Nothing shrewd about it. The move was talked about in the press days before it actually happened. It was LOGICAL, not shrewd. It was a move that nearly all of the other GMs in the league would've made if they were in the same position as Thompson.

The point was that few teams were in the same position. RBs are a dime a dozen...to not have ANY on your roster worth a damn as a starter for the upcoming season is tough to do. However, that is precisely where Thompson had us.

He did his job and made a good move, but let's not make this into more than it is.

Shrewd move, good move, tomato, tomato, whatever. I'll accept it was a good move and Thompson could very well make another good move if a DT is available. Let's not make this into more than it is.

[retailguy]

I've heard that said a bunch of times, that TT is a genius because of the Grant trade. The truth is, he and MM didn't know what they had even after they got it. He was in TC, so why didn't he start week 1? Or even week 2 if he needed to get to know the O better.

Truth is, they liked him, and thought he could share some of the load, but thought he was 'just a guy' and were as surprised as anyone else by what he did the 2nd half. To think they knew he was going to be the feature back before the end of the year, and were just 'biding their time' before starting him is just pure kool-aid.

QFT - There is a reason Grant didn't start until everyone else had failed. There was nothing to suggest that he'd be successful and they figured they would give it a try because nothing else worked.

Did Ted see talent and work ethic? I hope so. Did he forsee 1,000 yard in the last part of the season? NO. Not even with help from the physcic hotline.

[sheepshead]

I've heard that said a bunch of times, that TT is a genius because of the Grant trade. The truth is, he and MM didn't know what they had even after they got it. He was in TC, so why didn't he start week 1? Or even week 2 if he needed to get to know the O better.

Truth is, they liked him, and thought he could share some of the load, but thought he was 'just a guy' and were as surprised as anyone else by what he did the 2nd half. To think they knew he was going to be the feature back before the end of the year, and were just 'biding their time' before starting him is just pure kool-aid.

QFT - There is a reason Grant didn't start until everyone else had failed. There was nothing to suggest that he'd be successful and they figured they would give it a try because nothing else worked.

Did Ted see talent and work ethic? I hope so. Did he forsee 1,000 yard in the last part of the season? NO. Not even with help from the physcic hotline.


QFT--TT has admitted as much.

[mraynrand]

I've heard that said a bunch of times, that TT is a genius because of the Grant trade. The truth is, he and MM didn't know what they had even after they got it. He was in TC, so why didn't he start week 1? Or even week 2 if he needed to get to know the O better.

Truth is, they liked him, and thought he could share some of the load, but thought he was 'just a guy' and were as surprised as anyone else by what he did the 2nd half. To think they knew he was going to be the feature back before the end of the year, and were just 'biding their time' before starting him is just pure kool-aid.

QFT - There is a reason Grant didn't start until everyone else had failed. There was nothing to suggest that he'd be successful and they figured they would give it a try because nothing else worked.

Did Ted see talent and work ethic? I hope so. Did he forsee 1,000 yard in the last part of the season? NO. Not even with help from the physcic hotline.

I have to disagree somewhat. It seems unlikely that a guy who protects his draft picks like TT, would blow one on a guy he expected to remain third string. Given when he was brought in - after the preseason - he wasn't going to get much time until he learned something. Still, he played right away, and showed some flashes v. the NYG before fumbling. I think Ted's evaluation was somewhere in the middle of your last two extremes. But let's not make too much of this.

[Packerarcher]

Even if there was a steal of a DT available TT would not do it. It is not the TT way to do thins that make sense and promote winning.

[Zool]

Even if there was a steal of a DT available TT would not do it. It is not the TT way to do thins that make sense and promote winning.

Really? You're going to keep going with this? Isnt there a knot hole in a fence somewhere calling your name?

[MadScientist]

I've heard that said a bunch of times, that TT is a genius because of the Grant trade. The truth is, he and MM didn't know what they had even after they got it. He was in TC, so why didn't he start week 1? Or even week 2 if he needed to get to know the O better.

Truth is, they liked him, and thought he could share some of the load, but thought he was 'just a guy' and were as surprised as anyone else by what he did the 2nd half. To think they knew he was going to be the feature back before the end of the year, and were just 'biding their time' before starting him is just pure kool-aid.

QFT - There is a reason Grant didn't start until everyone else had failed. There was nothing to suggest that he'd be successful and they figured they would give it a try because nothing else worked.

Did Ted see talent and work ethic? I hope so. Did he forsee 1,000 yard in the last part of the season? NO. Not even with help from the physcic hotline.


QFT--TT has admitted as much.

The fact that Grant was nursing a hamstring injury when they got him slowed his progress down. Also that fumble in Minn that almost cost them the game put him back at the end of the line as far as getting a chance.

[Brohm]

Even if there was a steal of a DT available TT would not do it. It is not the TT way to do thins that make sense and promote winning.

Turn back the clock to this time last year and change it to RB and your point is refuted. Or is that just the "dumb luck" arguement :?:

[Scott Campbell]

Even if there was a steal of a DT available TT would not do it. It is not the TT way to do thins that make sense and promote winning.

Turn back the clock to this time last year and change it to RB and your point is refuted. Or is that just the "dumb luck" arguement :?:



This guy sounds more and more like Tank.

[Noodle]

Dang, how about some props for Sparky for pulling out that sweet list of jumbo DTs sitting around in Bal'more.

Looks like some opportunity for dealing (unlikely) or waiting until the end of TC to see who gets cut.

[mraynrand]

Even if there was a steal of a DT available TT would not do it. It is not the TT way to do thins that make sense and promote winning.

Turn back the clock to this time last year and change it to RB and your point is refuted. Or is that just the "dumb luck" arguement :?:



This guy sounds more and more like Tank.

My unofficial count has 3 'Tanks' posting on Packerrats

[mraynrand]

Dang, how about some props for Sparky for pulling out that sweet list of jumbo DTs sitting around in Bal'more.

Looks like some opportunity for dealing (unlikely) or waiting until the end of TC to see who gets cut.

Yep. And that Ngata was touted by some, if I recall, Bob McGinn thought he was a prospect. I can't quite recall the circumstances, but I remember him being escorted off the field this preseason - have to look it up to see if it was serious.

[Noodle]

Ngata is a stud. He was a first rounder in 2006 and has been pretty steady. He got his leg hurt at the end of July, but he'll likely be back by week 1 or 2, if the latest reports are accurate.

I'm thinking no way the Ravens part with him, but I'd love to have the guy; he's stout as hell and a certifiable run stopper.

[hurleyfan]

I have to believe TT will swing a deal for a tackle..

He almost has to with the lack of performance so far... No Harrel (again) Jolly's status (legal and health)..

Wonder if he regrets trading Williams now?

[The Shadow]

Maybe the Grant trade wasn't a miracle - Thomson obviously doesn't like to part with picks, so perhaps he just saw something others missed in Grant, and simply made a shrewd move.

I don't think there was anything shrewd. The Giants had too many good RBs. Thompson knew it...and asked them which one they would part with for a late round pick because we needed one. That choice was made by the Giants...not Thompson.

Sigh.
Thirty other teams DIDN'T obtain him.
Why is it always so difficult to extend Thompson any credit?

[HarveyWallbangers]

Dang, how about some props for Sparky for pulling out that sweet list of jumbo DTs sitting around in Bal'more.

Looks like some opportunity for dealing (unlikely) or waiting until the end of TC to see who gets cut.

The only thing is a lot of those guys listed at DT for Baltimore actually play DE in their scheme, so they aren't as short on DEs and as deep at DT as you'd think.

[Pacopete4]

Gilbert Brown has said over and over he still has some in the tank.. time for a tryout...

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Gilbert Brown has said over and over he still has some in the tank.. time for a tryout...

Right. And the league has apparently missed on his talent. :roll:

[Scott Campbell]

Gilbert Brown has said over and over he still has some in the tank.. time for a tryout...



Gilbert gets his AARP card this year - doesn't he?

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Gilbert Brown has said over and over he still has some in the tank.. time for a tryout...



Gilbert gets his AARP card this year - doesn't he?

He already ate it. Good source of fiber.

[Pacopete4]

Campbell... I was kidding

Ty- I was kidding and the Vikings missed out on his talent once before didn't they?...

[Guiness]

Dang, how about some props for Sparky for pulling out that sweet list of jumbo DTs sitting around in Bal'more.

Looks like some opportunity for dealing (unlikely) or waiting until the end of TC to see who gets cut.

I don't know. If those guys are all actually DTs (instead of DT/DE as HW pointed out) this is a similar situation to what the Giants had last year, an overabundance of players at one position, and they might well be willing to take a 6th or 7th rounder to get some value instead of releasing the player.

[Sparkey]

Dang, how about some props for Sparky for pulling out that sweet list of jumbo DTs sitting around in Bal'more.

Looks like some opportunity for dealing (unlikely) or waiting until the end of TC to see who gets cut.

I don't know. If those guys are all actually DTs (instead of DT/DE as HW pointed out) this is a similar situation to what the Giants had last year, an overabundance of players at one position, and they might well be willing to take a 6th or 7th rounder to get some value instead of releasing the player.

The list is per the NFL website roster listings.

[KYPack]

Dang, how about some props for Sparky for pulling out that sweet list of jumbo DTs sitting around in Bal'more.

Looks like some opportunity for dealing (unlikely) or waiting until the end of TC to see who gets cut.

I don't know. If those guys are all actually DTs (instead of DT/DE as HW pointed out) this is a similar situation to what the Giants had last year, an overabundance of players at one position, and they might well be willing to take a 6th or 7th rounder to get some value instead of releasing the player.

The list is per the NFL website roster listings.

Good job on digging that stuff up, Spark.

With our record last season, a decent DT would never get to us via waiver. We'd have to trade. We have a surplus of picks. A fifth for an actual DT would be well worth it.

Wonder if the Giants had any good kids in camp. They had a good DT group in addition to their crop of DE's With Uri out, they may have to add a DE and cut a good DT.

[retailguy]

Gilbert Brown has said over and over he still has some in the tank.. time for a tryout...

OJ Simpson said he "didn't do it too" I say we believe him... :roll:

[CaliforniaCheez]

that article is a couple days old. but I hope they do trade for a D-lineman. I hope the trade is for a draft pick, not an O-lineman as that article suggests.


Could they get a good enough DT for Coston, Moll or Thompson?

[jklowan]

NOT SURE BALTIMORE IS SO DEEP AT END

Ravens placed DT Dwan Edwards (back), ending his seasons.
A former second-round pick, Edwards was slated to be a backup after starting 13 games in place of Trevor Pryce last season.

Ravens DT Haloti Ngata is preparing for his preseason debut, a month after spraining an MCL.
"I would like to see how well my knee does by playing against the Falcons," he said. "I want to see if I’m rusty or not."

OH WELL....

[HarveyWallbangers]

The list is per the NFL website roster listings.


94 Bannan, Justin DT ACT 6'3" 310 4/18/1979 7 Colorado
96 Campbell, Darrell DT ACT 6'4" 295 7/6/1981 2 Notre Dame
93 Edwards, Dwan DT ACT 6'3" 295 5/16/1981 5 Oregon State
63 Gordon, Amon DT ACT 6'2" 305 10/13/1981 3 Stanford
92 Ngata, Haloti DT ACT 6'4" 345 1/21/1984 3 Oregon
69 Parker, J'Vonne DT ACT 6'4" 325 6/7/1982 2 Rutgers
62 Solano, Salomon DT ACT 6'3" 321 9/19/1985 1 No College
72 Williams, Lorenzo DT ACT 6'0" 310 10/23/1984 0 Missouri

Doesn't matter what's listed on the NFL.com website. Look at the Baltimore Ravens website:

http://www.baltimoreravens.com/People/Player_Roster/Depth_Chart.aspx

Ngata, Bannan, Edwards, Gordon, and Williams are all listed as DEs on their own website's depth chart.

[mraynrand]

Doesn't matter what's listed on the NFL.com website. Look at the Baltimore Ravens website:

http://www.baltimoreravens.com/People/Player_Roster/Depth_Chart.aspx

Ngata, Bannan, Edwards, Gordon, and Williams are all listed as DEs on their own website's depth chart.

It would seem what really matters is where they actually line up. Ngata lines up a tackle all the time, I believe. But I could envision a Cullen Jenkins situation, where a guy is versatile, and the Ravens have a guy who plays both positions listed as end or vice versa. Thus, the point of this thread - Thompson may be able to get a tackle by scooping up a guy the Raven's don't necessarily need who may fit the Packers scheme regardless of where the Ravens see the guy playing. I gotta check the NFLN schedule to see when the Raven play...

[HarveyWallbangers]

Ngata plays DE in their 3-4 scheme, but they basically line up three DT types on the DL. My point is that they don't have a shortage of DEs and an abundance of DTs. Their DL are pretty much interchangeable.

[Harlan Huckleby]

that article is a couple days old. but I hope they do trade for a D-lineman. I hope the trade is for a draft pick, not an O-lineman as that article suggests.


Could they get a good enough DT for Coston, Moll or Thompson?

They could get a lousy DT for Moll, and nothing for the other two zeros.

You don't get something for nothing. I think the team is close to being complete, the big hole is the D-line. This is a situation where it is worth a high draft pick to patch a critical hole.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Honestly, I don't see a ton of teams with DT depth. Actually, none stood out. Most teams play a rotation now, so they usually need 4+ decent DTs.

[retailguy]

Quite honestly, I don't see a team willing to part with a high draft choice to trade anybody that would help better than what we have.

I agree that it's possible Ted will trade for someone we've never heard of, but in the beginning of the season at least, we've got what we got.

I just don't see a big trade out there for D/L. Or anyone that's worth a big trade that "might" be available.

[Zool]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp08/news/story?id=3555856

In need of defensive line help, the Baltimore Ravens remembered a face from long ago, trading for Buccaneers defensive end Marques Douglas.

Tampa Bay traded Douglas, 31, for a low draft choice in 2009 and a conditional draft choice in 2010.

The Ravens needed a lineman after losing defensive end Dwan Edwards for the season. Edwards, who has been struggling with a back injury, was put on injured reserve Tuesday.

Douglas entered the league with the Ravens as an undrafted player coming out of Howard University in 1999.

After spending the 2000 season in New Orleans, Douglas went back to Baltimore, where he played from 2001 to 2004. He joined former Ravens defensive coordinator Mike Nolan in San Francisco from 2005 to 2007 as a free agent.

Douglas started 47 of 48 games with the 49ers, and had 71 tackles last season.

The Buccaneers signed Douglas to a four-year, $10.1 million contract this offseason, but his playing time came into question when the team re-signed Kevin Carter.

The Bucs didn't take a cap hit in the trade to the Ravens because they gave Douglas a $1 million base salary and a $1.6 million roster bonus. The Ravens assume the $2.6 million obligation this season.

[Scott Campbell]

Campbell... I was kidding


I was too. Gilbert's old, but no where near 55.