Surprise! Sarah Palin seems normal.

[Kiwon]

Watch this video and then tell me that Sarah Palin is your average politician. She seems like a normal person. Any lady that knows her sports is cool.

That's another reason to consider voting for McCain/Palin.

http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=164463

[BallHawk]

Yay! Another political thread!

[mraynrand]

I spend all that time uploading pics and you fire up another thread?

[Kiwon]

I spend all that time uploading pics and you fire up another thread?

Sorry, politicos.

I thought about burying this video on page 9 of the VP thread but I was seriously impressed after seeing it.

I knew very little about Palin but she really seems like a normal person, very unpolitical-like.

No disrespect, mraynrand, those were some great photos. I'm just reaching out to the independent Packer Rats among us.

[mraynrand]

I spend all that time uploading pics and you fire up another thread?

Sorry, politicos.

I thought about burying this video on page 9 of the VP thread but I was seriously impressed after seeing it.

I knew very little about Palin but she really seems like a normal person, very unpolitical-like.

No disrespect, mraynrand, those were some great photos. I'm just reaching out to the independent Packer Rats among us.

I'm just teasing. plenty of space to start new topics.

[Scott Campbell]

Gotta love that big 80's hair.

[Kiwon]

Gotta love that big 80's hair.

What I liked was that she didn't miss a beat and knew the jargon. She's a natural as a play-by-play announcer.

A lady that's cool with sports.....she gets the advantage in the intangible category.

She's definitely got my vote if she says that she never watches Oprah. :)

[mraynrand]

Gotta love that big 80's hair.

What I liked was that she didn't miss a beat and knew the jargon. She's a natural as a play-by-play announcer.

A lady that's cool with sports.....she gets the advantage in the intangible category.

She's definitely got my vote if she says that she never watches Oprah. :)

I don't watch Oprah. Can I be VP, too?

[packinpatland]

I had 3 kids, was PTA president 4 different times (two year stints)..........can I be a VP?

[Scott Campbell]

I had 3 kids, was PTA president 4 different times (two year stints)..........can I be a VP?


Can you carry Connecticut?

[mraynrand]

I had 3 kids, was PTA president 4 different times (two year stints)..........can I be a VP?

Well, then ya gotta be mayor, governor, defeat a corrupt state Republican Party machine, defeat Big Oil (even when Conoco spends over 600K trying to discredit your administration), etc. But then, I'd vote for you, if you were on the conservative side...

[mraynrand]

I had 3 kids, was PTA president 4 different times (two year stints)..........can I be a VP?


Can you carry Connecticut?

Can you carry a tune?

[texaspackerbacker]

WTG with the new thread. Pictures just get in the way.

Normalcy, indeed, is the key here. Everything about the Republicans and what they/we stand for is NORMAL. That is in stark contrast to the Dems.

Love of country and Patriotism versus hate, disdain, and lack of pride.

Emphasis on Judeo-Christian values and heritage versus emphasis on abortion, homosexuality, and a whole host of other sick immoral agendas.

Lower taxes, less government intrusion, emphasis on individualism and volunteerism versus socialism, tax and spend/welfare state, emphasis on dependence on government.

Positivity versus negativity.

Continuation of the Greatness of America versus CHANGE away from that greatness.

Sarah Palin symbolizes Republican women, just as Janet Reno symbolizes Democrat women. Why did I not say Hillary for the Dems? Hillary has a degree of femininity, kindness, and normalcy--even though I think it is artificial--that is distinctly NOT what the Dems are about. They proved that by dissing her and the 18 million fairly normal, albeit misguided people who voted for her.

Aynrand, since you like pictures so much, maybe you could show Palin next to Reno.

[Scott Campbell]

.............. just as Janet Reno symbolizes Democrat women.



That's not the world I want to live in.

[mraynrand]

WTG with the new thread. Pictures just get in the way.

Aynrand, since you like pictures so much, maybe you could show Palin next to Reno.

Point taken. I'll make a separate picture thread if I get the urge. I'm all a smitten with the govenah...

[HowardRoark]

Aynrand, since you like pictures so much, maybe you could show Palin next to Reno.

http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/5410/Hillaryswildnight.jpg

[mraynrand]

That image disturbs me almost to the point of insanity. There. I am insane now.

[Scott Campbell]

Aynrand, since you like pictures so much, maybe you could show Palin next to Reno.

http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/5410/Hillaryswildnight.jpg


:lol: :lol: :lol:

[texaspackerbacker]

Good One, Howard.

Scott, when I say "Democrat women', I'm not talking about fairly normal but misguided women voting Dem. I'm talking about the big shots of the party--ugly abortion-pushing gay loving America-hating bitches ...... and then there's the women too.

[Iron Mike]

Aynrand, since you like pictures so much, maybe you could show Palin next to Reno.

http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/5410/Hillaryswildnight.jpg

And here I thought that if Hilary pounded a 40, it would be Steel Reserve:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/22/Steel_reserve.jpg/150px-Steel_reserve.jpg

[Harlan Huckleby]

The one odd piece to the puzzle is her husband. He is 3/4 eskimo, his hobbies are dog sledding and snow mobile racing. He has worked on the oil pipeline and currently operates a salmon fishing business.

How the heck is that guy gonna fit into Washington, D.C.?

Now, I suppose it is true that wives have traditionally sacrificed some of their interests and careers to accomodate their ambitious husbands. But it sounds like this guy has no experience with being a supportive house husband. What's he gonna do if his wife wins the election?

[the_idle_threat]

The one odd piece to the puzzle is her husband. He is 3/4 eskimo, his hobbies are dog sledding and snow mobile racing. He has worked on the oil pipeline and currently operates a salmon fishing business.

How the heck is that guy gonna fit into Washington, D.C.?

Now, I suppose it is true that wives have traditionally sacrificed some of their interests and careers to accomodate their ambitious husbands. But it sounds like this guy has no experience with being a supportive house husband. What's he gonna do if his wife wins the election?

Bust out his "good" mukluks, I guess.

[Scott Campbell]

What's he gonna do if his wife wins the election?


Well I'd celebrate by boinking the hell out of her.

[the_idle_threat]

^^^ This is a better answer. :idea:

[BallHawk]

How the heck is that guy gonna fit into Washington, D.C.?

He's not going to be in a situation where that will be necessary.

[Kiwon]

How the heck is that guy gonna fit into Washington, D.C.?

He's not going to be in a situation where that will be necessary.

Trade Alaska for D.C.? :shock: Talk about a downgrade.

But he'll probably go though with family to support his wife.

Normal people like normal places and Washington is "abbi-normal."

[texaspackerbacker]

The one odd piece to the puzzle is her husband. He is 3/4 eskimo, his hobbies are dog sledding and snow mobile racing. He has worked on the oil pipeline and currently operates a salmon fishing business.

How the heck is that guy gonna fit into Washington, D.C.?

Now, I suppose it is true that wives have traditionally sacrificed some of their interests and careers to accomodate their ambitious husbands. But it sounds like this guy has no experience with being a supportive house husband. What's he gonna do if his wife wins the election?

They already described him as a "house husband". I would think being governor, even of Alaska, is a fulltime job.

As for "fitting in in Washington", that's a rather dubious virtue, don't you think?

[packinpatland]

I had 3 kids, was PTA president 4 different times (two year stints)..........can I be a VP?


Can you carry Connecticut?

Maybe Rhode Island....it's smaller. :wink:

AND........let me add..........that was PTA president at all three levels. Grade school, middle school and high school.
That's got to be worth a few extra few points........

[Scott Campbell]

I had 3 kids, was PTA president 4 different times (two year stints)..........can I be a VP?


Can you carry Connecticut?

Maybe Rhode Island....it's smaller. :wink:

AND........let me add..........that was PTA president at all three levels. Grade school, middle school and high school.
That's got to be worth a few extra few points........


So you've got more executive experience than Obama. +3

[bobblehead]

The one odd piece to the puzzle is her husband. He is 3/4 eskimo, his hobbies are dog sledding and snow mobile racing. He has worked on the oil pipeline and currently operates a salmon fishing business.

How the heck is that guy gonna fit into Washington, D.C.?

Now, I suppose it is true that wives have traditionally sacrificed some of their interests and careers to accomodate their ambitious husbands. But it sounds like this guy has no experience with being a supportive house husband. What's he gonna do if his wife wins the election?

The way McCain likes to trade in for a younger model he better make sure he stays close.

[Kiwon]

Liberal values on display.

..................................................

Sunday, August 31, 2008

Lefty Bloggers Go After Palin's Daughter

Posted by: Amanda Carpenter at 5:47 PM

The lefty blogosphere hasn't stopped perpetuating the rumor Sarah Palin "faked" her last pregnancy and are now humiliating her daughter Bristol on the blatantly incorrect suspicion she is the real mother of baby Trig.

"Sarah Palin is NOT the Mother" is the title of this DailyKos blog that accuses Bristol, a completely fit looking adolescent teen, of having a "baby bump" in a photo they allege was taken March 9th of this year.

"Sarah, I'm calling you a liar" wrote blogger ArcXIX. "And not even a good one. Trig Paxson Van Palin is not your son. He is your grandson. The sooner you come forward with this revelation to the public, the better. "

Not only is the DailyKos disgustingly inspecting Bristol's midriff with all the fervor of LA paparrazzi examining J-Lo's or Jennifer Aniston's washboard stomachs for evidence of a "bump" DailyKos is is wrong on when the photo was taken. It was taken, and published, by the Anchorage Daily News in 2006. Baby Trig, a Down's Syndrome child, was born on April 18, 2008. That's a long time for a teen girl to be carrying a "bump" which looks nothing more than the curve of a tight sweater.

Shorly after Palin was announced McCain's VP, bloggers at the Kos started ginning up the rumor Palin faked her pregnancy, allegedly to cover for an illegitimate grandchiled, because she looked so fit and trim in a photo taken a few months before giving birth.

This is only the latest in outrageoues attacks against Palin's mothering ability. Fox News anchor Alan Colmes, of Hannity & Colmes, titled a recent post on his blog "LiberalLand" "Did Palin Take Proper PreNatal Care" that wondered if she somehow was at fault for having a disabled child. Colmes took down the post after being attacked by the blog Wizbang and later reposted a screenshot of the blog to prove he "wasn't running away from what I posted."

http://townhall.com/blog/g/9b3375c7-6a27-4b5e-9204-b267282a1ce1

[BallHawk]

Why can't there be normal liberals that keep quiet and don't make a bad impression for all of the other libs?

[Kiwon]

Why can't there be normal liberals that keep quiet and don't make a bad impression for all of the other libs?

Well, in fairness, there are some libs that do keep their criticism sensible, but they don't get featured on the DailyKos. The kooks generate more ad income.

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[Joemailman]

Daily Kos is the nutcase fringe element of the left. Sorta like Tex on the right. :wink:

[texaspackerbacker]

It kinda sounds like the sick libs are projecting THEIR morality--or lack of it--on a good normal American family.

Just the logistics of perpetrating a fraud like they are accusing is completely beyond believability. How many co-conspirators would it take to pull it off? A helluva a lot. I don't care if she does have an 80% plus approval rating, some of the people with knowledge would have to be opponents of Palin.

The stigma of teenage pregnancy just isn't worth the risk to an ambitious politician of such a cover-up. It ain't logical.

[Kiwon]

Daily Kos is the nutcase fringe element of the left. Sorta like Tex on the right. :wink:

Agreed, Joe. There are some partisan nuts out there. :whist:

http://images.dailykos.com/blogads3/839385994/img.jpghttp://www.prosolutionpills.com/themes/psp/images/photos/man_underwear2.jpg

[texaspackerbacker]

Daily Kos is the nutcase fringe element of the left. Sorta like Tex on the right. :wink:

Joe, I repeat the challenge I have given several times to the forum leftists--of which, you, admittedly, are one of the least obnoxious: What of my oft-stated positions on the issues could you possibly see as extreme?

I posted this on the previous page to illustrate exactly how blatant the difference is between the views and values of us "good normal America-loving Americans" compared to practically all of those in positions of power and leadership on your side of the spectrum.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Love of country and Patriotism versus hate, disdain, and lack of pride.

Emphasis on Judeo-Christian values and heritage versus emphasis on abortion, homosexuality, and a whole host of other sick immoral agendas.

Lower taxes, less government intrusion, emphasis on individualism and volunteerism versus socialism, tax and spend/welfare state, emphasis on dependence on government.

Positivity versus negativity.

Continuation of the Greatness of America versus CHANGE away from that greatness.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

How can you possibly deny that it is the sick depraved bastards of the left--from Obama on down--who are extreme, NOT those of us who hold the pristine views and positions above?

[mraynrand]

It kinda sounds like the sick libs are projecting THEIR morality--or lack of it--on a good normal American family.

Just the logistics of perpetrating a fraud like they are accusing is completely beyond believability. How many co-conspirators would it take to pull it off? A helluva a lot. I don't care if she does have an 80% plus approval rating, some of the people with knowledge would have to be opponents of Palin.

The stigma of teenage pregnancy just isn't worth the risk to an ambitious politician of such a cover-up. It ain't logical.

Furthermore, it makes very little biological sense. Downs Syndrome is more prevalent in older pregnant women - thus the reason older women get more prenatal tests - such as a karyotype (looking at the number of chromosomes).

You have to remember that the reason for crap like this is to distract from the achievements of the woman. She took on corrupt politicians and a political machine IN HER OWN PARTY and defeated them. She took on corruption in Big Oil and defeated it, despite reports of Conoco spending 600K trying to discredit her administration. These facts scare the hell out of liberals, because this is what they've been screaming for, and it's coming from the next president and vice president from the opposing party!

And Colmes should be the one to talk about poor health - the guy looks like a living skeleton (if he actually has some physical ailment, I retract that statement). But to point his bony finger at Palin takes a lot of gall. So much for 'fair and balanced reporting.'

[mraynrand]

From Mark Steyn (National Review Online):


Saturday, August 30, 2008

The hostess with the moosest [Mark Steyn]

Over in the Frumistan province of the NR caliphate, our pal David is not happy about the Palin pick. I am - for several reasons.

First, Governor Palin is not merely, as Jay describes her, "all-American", but hyper-American. What other country in the developed world produces beauty queens who hunt caribou and serve up a terrific moose stew? As an immigrant, I'm not saying I came to the United States purely to meet chicks like that, but it was certainly high on my list of priorities. And for the gun-totin' Miss Wasilla then to go on to become Governor while having five kids makes it an even more uniquely American story. Next to her resume, a guy who's done nothing but serve in the phony-baloney job of "community organizer" and write multiple autobiographies looks like just another creepily self-absorbed lifelong member of the full-time political class that infests every advanced democracy.

Second, it can't be in Senator Obama's interest for the punditocracy to spends its time arguing about whether the Republicans' vice-presidential pick is "even more" inexperienced than the Democrats' presidential one.

Third, real people don't define "experience" as appearing on unwatched Sunday-morning talk shows every week for 35 years and having been around long enough to have got both the War on Terror and the Cold War wrong. (On the first point, at the Gun Owners of New Hampshire dinner in the 2000 campaign, I remember Orrin Hatch telling me sadly that he was stunned to discover how few Granite State voters knew who he was.) Sarah Palin and Barack Obama are more or less the same age, but Governor Palin has run a state and a town and a commercial fishing operation, whereas (to reprise a famous line on the Rev Jackson) Senator Obama ain't run nothin' but his mouth. She's done the stuff he's merely a poseur about. Post-partisan? She took on her own party's corrupt political culture directly while Obama was sucking up to Wright and Ayers and being just another get-along Chicago machine pol (see his campaign's thuggish attempt to throttle Stanley Kurtz and Milt Rosenberg on WGN the other night).

Fourth, Governor Palin has what the British Labour Party politician Denis Healy likes to call a "hinterland" - a life beyond politics. Whenever Senator Obama attempts anything non-political (such as bowling), he comes over like a visiting dignitary to a foreign country getting shanghaied into some impenetrable local folk ritual. Sarah Palin isn't just on the right side of the issues intellectually. She won't need the usual stage-managed "hunting" trip to reassure gun owners: she's lived the Second Amendment all her life. Likewise, on abortion, we're often told it's easy to be against it in principle but what if you were a woman facing a difficult birth or a handicapped child? Been there, done that.

Fifth, she complicates all the laziest Democrat pieties. Energy? Unlike Biden and Obama, she's been to ANWR and, like most Alaskans, supports drilling there.

Sixth (see Kathleen's link to Craig Ferguson below), I kinda like the whole naughty librarian vibe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh-lW2opLyQ&feature=related

[Joemailman]

Daily Kos is the nutcase fringe element of the left. Sorta like Tex on the right. :wink:

Joe, I repeat the challenge I have given several times to the forum leftists--of which, you, admittedly, are one of the least obnoxious: What of my oft-stated positions on the issues could you possibly see as extreme?

I posted this on the previous page to illustrate exactly how blatant the difference is between the views and values of us "good normal America-loving Americans" compared to practically all of those in positions of power and leadership on your side of the spectrum.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Love of country and Patriotism versus hate, disdain, and lack of pride.

Emphasis on Judeo-Christian values and heritage versus emphasis on abortion, homosexuality, and a whole host of other sick immoral agendas.

Lower taxes, less government intrusion, emphasis on individualism and volunteerism versus socialism, tax and spend/welfare state, emphasis on dependence on government.

Positivity versus negativity.

Continuation of the Greatness of America versus CHANGE away from that greatness.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

How can you possibly deny that it is the sick depraved bastards of the left--from Obama on down--who are extreme, NOT those of us who hold the pristine views and positions above?

I think rejoicing at the dearth of Tim Russert puts you out of the mainstream of conservative thought. Several conservatives here would probably agree with that.

[mraynrand]

Daily Kos is the nutcase fringe element of the left. Sorta like Tex on the right. :wink:

Joe, I repeat the challenge I have given several times to the forum leftists--of which, you, admittedly, are one of the least obnoxious: What of my oft-stated positions on the issues could you possibly see as extreme?

I posted this on the previous page to illustrate exactly how blatant the difference is between the views and values of us "good normal America-loving Americans" compared to practically all of those in positions of power and leadership on your side of the spectrum.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Love of country and Patriotism versus hate, disdain, and lack of pride.

Emphasis on Judeo-Christian values and heritage versus emphasis on abortion, homosexuality, and a whole host of other sick immoral agendas.

Lower taxes, less government intrusion, emphasis on individualism and volunteerism versus socialism, tax and spend/welfare state, emphasis on dependence on government.

Positivity versus negativity.

Continuation of the Greatness of America versus CHANGE away from that greatness.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

How can you possibly deny that it is the sick depraved bastards of the left--from Obama on down--who are extreme, NOT those of us who hold the pristine views and positions above?

I think rejoicing at the dearth of Tim Russert puts you out of the mainstream of conservative thought. Several conservatives here would probably agree with that.

I think Tex's comments on Russert, etc. are outrageous, but he asked you about a set of positions above. What do you think of those?

[texaspackerbacker]

Yeah yeah yeah, the crap about that bastard Russert--but NOT ONE WORD of response to the sick evil positions and views advocated the God damned America-hating extremists who constitute the leadership of that rotten party.

Joe, as seemingly not too horrible an example of a left winger, how can you defend or condone the horrendous anti-American anti-Christian anti-free enterprise immoral and perverted policies of your party's leaders?

As for Russert, he was a hugely influential part of that rottenness. That is why I was possibly a little over-zealous in reacting to his death.

It's pretty disgraceful, though, if THAT is the only thing you guys can bring up instead of commenting on the atrocious views, values, and positions of your side's leaders--your party's nominee being about the MOST ANTI-AMERICAN of the whole sick bunch.

[BallHawk]

Anti-Christian? Isn't there something in some document somewhere that says there shall be no religious test in government? :roll:

[texaspackerbacker]

Anti-Christian? Isn't there something in some document somewhere that says there shall be no religious test in government? :roll:

Religious test? What does that mean?

I believe what you refer to is the First Amendment thing that the government shall not abridge the freedom of anybody to practice their religion. Well, there's a whole lot of abridgin' goin' on these days, mainly because left wing judges appointed by left wing politicians. But wait, are ALL religions being persecuted and restricted? Hell No. It is basically only one. That would be the majority religion--the TRUE religion--the religion HATED so much by the sick leftist America-hating extremists who control the Democrat Party--Obama being the sickest piece of shit of the bunch.

How about it, Ballhawk? Do you care to defend the rotten positions, views, and values of your America-hating leaders? I doubt it!

sorry, Ballhawk. It's getting hard to know the players without a scorecard. From other posts, I see you usually are NOT one of the lefties of the forum. What gives with your post above which sounds contrary to the side you are usually on?

[digitaldean]

I think rejoicing at the dearth of Tim Russert puts you out of the mainstream of conservative thought. Several conservatives here would probably agree with that.

Being a conservative, I, for one, didn't care for Tex's Russert postings.

Like I've stated in other threads, the namecalling crap is jr. high BS. I think most of us are beyond that level of behavior.

There have been times where Harlan or others have stated stuff that was beyond the pale. If, after a few replies back, it seemed pointless to continue, I logged out. The only reason being is if I continue to post my frustrations it serves no useful purpose.

[digitaldean]

I do find it humorous, at best, that the "party of tolerance" is the one who will NEVER publicly allow dissent on the abortion issue. While the Republicans will allow those who are pro-choice or even partially pro-life under their umbrella. The Republicans are FAR from perfect but they seem to be more tolerant on that issue.

Let's face it, if the Dems had more of a pro-life plank and less hostility towards those who were pro-life, this election wouldn't even be close.

I am leaning more towards McCain now. Both have gov't expansion in mind. I just find McCain's plans less distasteful.

[digitaldean]

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/01/palins-17-year-old-daughter-is-pregnant/

Just posted that Palin's daughter is pregnant and she's marrying the father.

Should be a non-issue, but leave it to the media hounds to drag this up.

What bearing does this have on her leadership? If you want to point out her total lack of foreign policy experience, OK. But this crap is what the Weekly World News is for.

[Joemailman]

Daily Kos is the nutcase fringe element of the left. Sorta like Tex on the right. :wink:

Joe, I repeat the challenge I have given several times to the forum leftists--of which, you, admittedly, are one of the least obnoxious: What of my oft-stated positions on the issues could you possibly see as extreme?

I posted this on the previous page to illustrate exactly how blatant the difference is between the views and values of us "good normal America-loving Americans" compared to practically all of those in positions of power and leadership on your side of the spectrum.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Love of country and Patriotism versus hate, disdain, and lack of pride.

Emphasis on Judeo-Christian values and heritage versus emphasis on abortion, homosexuality, and a whole host of other sick immoral agendas.

Lower taxes, less government intrusion, emphasis on individualism and volunteerism versus socialism, tax and spend/welfare state, emphasis on dependence on government.

Positivity versus negativity.

Continuation of the Greatness of America versus CHANGE away from that greatness.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

How can you possibly deny that it is the sick depraved bastards of the left--from Obama on down--who are extreme, NOT those of us who hold the pristine views and positions above?

I think rejoicing at the dearth of Tim Russert puts you out of the mainstream of conservative thought. Several conservatives here would probably agree with that.

I think Tex's comments on Russert, etc. are outrageous, but he asked you about a set of positions above. What do you think of those?

Okay. I love my country, but I don't confuse Patriotism with support for conservatism as Tex does.

I am a Christian and therefore deplore Tex's incendiary comments toward people on the left. The idea of not being judgmental and of forgiving enemies are what distinguished Christ from his executioners. I believe most abortions should be illegal, but have little confidence that electing Republicans will achieve that .

I don't like paying high taxes any more than anyone else, but feel there are legitimate roles for government, and that takes money. The idea that the current group of Republicans are against government intrusion into people's lives is nonsense. Ask Bob Barr why he's running for President as a Libertarian. I also don't believe Republicans can claim to be fiscal conservatives anymore considering what they did from 2001-2006.

[texaspackerbacker]

A small attempt, Joe, but you still didn't address the positons of YOUR party's sick anti-American leadership--or if you think they aren't anti-American, why not.

What is conservative about:

acknowledging that America is the greatest country in the world by any standard you can name, and should remain dominant and prosperous, rather than be torn down as Obama and his kind would do?

acknowledging that leftist judges appointed by leftist politicians have dragged the country down morally,etc., and that practicing Christians are the primary victims of their undemocratic judicial oppression?

favoring "normalcy" in America over the various perversions promoted by the Dem/libs as morally equivalent alternatives?

Do you REALLY see those things as conservative--not merely pro-American positons? If not, why in the hell are you on the side of the party and politicians who are on the wrong side of all that?

[bobblehead]

I don't like paying high taxes any more than anyone else, but feel there are legitimate roles for government, and that takes money.

I know there was more to your post than this, BUT...higher tax rates are harmful to the economy, ask any economist, left or right leaning. I agree the republican party has lost its way and is not championing smaller gov't anymore, but raising taxes in hopes we can get out from under the bloated pig that is our gov't would harm us more than help. We need to attack spending at every level and work to have the free market solve as many problems as possible with gov't stepping in only where free market fails us (and Yes, I concede there are roles for gov't intervention.

NO more ted kennedy getting gov't involved in healthcare(1967)...no more bill clinton getting gov't involved in the housing market (1994)...No more GW getting the gov't involved in prescription drugs (2002). These and other "social interventions" are what are bankrupting this country and causing the problems. I realize this outlook makes me hateful and means I want old people to starve and eat dogfood (dick gephardt 1996). But hey, I'm just a guy who sees the real world and realizes that where capitalism is allowed to thrive good things happen.

[mmmdk]

What is "normalcy" to a republican?

[MJZiggy]

Here's another surprise. :shock:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/01/AR2008090100710.html?hpid=topnews

[HowardRoark]

Here's another surprise. :shock:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/01/AR2008090100710.html?hpid=topnews

Sarah is going to have her plate full this year.

[MJZiggy]

So she has a newborn with Downs Syndrome, a pregnant teen with a wedding coming up (shotgun?), a son leaving for Iraq, 3 other kids and a husband who is either snowmobile racing or gone industrial fishing?

And she's still Governor? Nothing at all to take her attention away from campaigning...

[BallHawk]

Surprise! I'm Pregnant.

[MJZiggy]

I've been duped. You told me you were using something!

[BallHawk]

sorry, Ballhawk. It's getting hard to know the players without a scorecard. From other posts, I see you usually are NOT one of the lefties of the forum. What gives with your post above which sounds contrary to the side you are usually on?

I identify as a Democrat, but I am far from a liberal or the far left. I'm against abortions unless there has been rape or incest. I supported the Iraq War at first, but I'm now against it. I am for Obama's healthcare plan, but I did not agree with Hillary's healthcare plan. I side with the left on most issues, but I'm not a wackhead leftist. People like Dennis Kucinich and Robert Wexler are people that I look down upon because of their extreme actions (trying to impeach Bush and Cheney)

Just thought I'd give you a better idea of where I come from when regarding politics. Politically, I'm pretty similar to Joe on the forum.

[bobblehead]

What is "normalcy" to a republican?

an adverb....but I'm pretty sure its not a real word, rather one made up by the media.

[Joemailman]

It's not a real word. "A Return To Normalcy" was Warren Harding's campaign slogan in 1920. That's where it originated.

[BallHawk]

Warren Harding was assassinated.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Warren Harding was assassinated.

The jury is still out on this. As I recall, he died of a heart attack.

[TheCheese]

sorry, Ballhawk. It's getting hard to know the players without a scorecard. From other posts, I see you usually are NOT one of the lefties of the forum. What gives with your post above which sounds contrary to the side you are usually on?

I identify as a Democrat, but I am far from a liberal or the far left. I'm against abortions unless there has been rape or incest. I supported the Iraq War at first, but I'm now against it. I am for Obama's healthcare plan, but I did not agree with Hillary's healthcare plan. I side with the left on most issues, but I'm not a wackhead leftist. People like Dennis Kucinich and Robert Wexler are people that I look down upon because of their extreme actions (trying to impeach Bush and Cheney)

Just thought I'd give you a better idea of where I come from when regarding politics. Politically, I'm pretty similar to Joe on the forum.

How can you be in favor of Obama's health care plan when it was just as bad if not worse than Hillary's? Seriously do people even fucking look into things or just take what politicians say as concrete facts.

If you would know anything about politics, you would know Obama is just a rehash of every failed politician before him. He doesn't have any new ideas or propositions; it's the same old shit. He makes a charismatic speech of hollow promises of GENERAL ideas, but never goes into detail what so ever how hes going to achieve them and people like you fall for it and it pisses me off because our country deserves better from phonies like him and citizens like yourself.

[SkinBasket]

Who said the Hillary women didn't have any fire left in 'em?

[BallHawk]

Warren Harding was assassinated.

The jury is still out on this. As I recall, he died of a heart attack.

NO! The government covered it up. :lol:

[Maxie the Taxi]

Warren Harding was assassinated.

The jury is still out on this. As I recall, he died of a heart attack.

NO! The government covered it up. :lol:

Must be some more of that historical revisionism stuff. They change history so often nowadays I can't keep up. I'm old school. I'll stick by my trusty old high school history text.

[Rastak]

I think rejoicing at the dearth of Tim Russert puts you out of the mainstream of conservative thought. Several conservatives here would probably agree with that.

Being a conservative, I, for one, didn't care for Tex's Russert postings.

Like I've stated in other threads, the namecalling crap is jr. high BS. I think most of us are beyond that level of behavior.

There have been times where Harlan or others have stated stuff that was beyond the pale. If, after a few replies back, it seemed pointless to continue, I logged out. The only reason being is if I continue to post my frustrations it serves no useful purpose.


I've voted republican for almost every election since 1980, going independant on one. I thought his (Tex's) comments were complete shit.

[MJZiggy]

It did galvanize the forum for a little while, didn't it...

[Maxie the Taxi]

I think rejoicing at the dearth of Tim Russert puts you out of the mainstream of conservative thought. Several conservatives here would probably agree with that.

Being a conservative, I, for one, didn't care for Tex's Russert postings.

Like I've stated in other threads, the namecalling crap is jr. high BS. I think most of us are beyond that level of behavior.

There have been times where Harlan or others have stated stuff that was beyond the pale. If, after a few replies back, it seemed pointless to continue, I logged out. The only reason being is if I continue to post my frustrations it serves no useful purpose.




I've voted republican for almost every election since 1980, going independant on one. I thought his (Tex's) comments were complete shit.

Wow, it must be tough surviving in Dem liberal MN!

[BallHawk]

Wow, it must be tough surviving in Dem liberal MN!

You know, Obama is only up by 4.5 in Minnesota. If McCain had selected Pawlenty there's a good chance the Republicans would of won Minnesota.

[HowardRoark]

I think rejoicing at the dearth of Tim Russert puts you out of the mainstream of conservative thought. Several conservatives here would probably agree with that.

Being a conservative, I, for one, didn't care for Tex's Russert postings.

Like I've stated in other threads, the namecalling crap is jr. high BS. I think most of us are beyond that level of behavior.

There have been times where Harlan or others have stated stuff that was beyond the pale. If, after a few replies back, it seemed pointless to continue, I logged out. The only reason being is if I continue to post my frustrations it serves no useful purpose.




I've voted republican for almost every election since 1980, going independant on one. I thought his (Tex's) comments were complete shit.

Wow, it must be tough surviving in Dem liberal MN!

http://www.frankenidiot.com/images/al_franken_bunny_web.jpg

[Maxie the Taxi]

Wow, it must be tough surviving in Dem liberal MN!

You know, Obama is only up by 4.5 in Minnesota. If McCain had selected Pawlenty there's a good chance the Republicans would of won Minnesota.

You don't think Palin's hockey-mom factor will swing the state? :shock:

[texaspackerbacker]

The key is the sum total of each state race--the electoral votes.

Pawlenty might have given McCain Minnesota. Palin may still do that. Pawlenty, however, wouldn't have given McCain much else at all. Palin has the solid potential to give him enough Catholic and women voters to solidify Ohio and have a shot in Pennsylvania and Michigan, as well as to eliminate any Dem/lib hopes of sneaking in for southern and western states--Virginia, Georgia, Nevada, and Colorado, not to mention Florida.

If McCain keeps those southern and western states and wins Ohio, then he wins even without Minnesota, Michigan, Pennsylvania, or Wisconsin--any of which he conceivably could take, especially with Palin.

It was a smart political choice, as well as a solid reality-based pick--meaning she typifies what is good about America--as opposed to the liberals who typify the bad that leftists want to bring to America.

[Joemailman]

I think rejoicing at the dearth of Tim Russert puts you out of the mainstream of conservative thought. Several conservatives here would probably agree with that.

Being a conservative, I, for one, didn't care for Tex's Russert postings.

Like I've stated in other threads, the namecalling crap is jr. high BS. I think most of us are beyond that level of behavior.

There have been times where Harlan or others have stated stuff that was beyond the pale. If, after a few replies back, it seemed pointless to continue, I logged out. The only reason being is if I continue to post my frustrations it serves no useful purpose.

It's not all that liberal anymore. They have a Republican Governor and at lesast one Republican Senator. It's more independent than liberal. When Ventura won there, I believe he ran as a fiscal conservative, but more of a social liberal.

I've voted republican for almost every election since 1980, going independant on one. I thought his (Tex's) comments were complete shit.

Wow, it must be tough surviving in Dem liberal MN!

It's not all that liberal anymore. They have a Republican Governor and at lesast one Republican Senator. It's more independent than liberal. When Ventura won there, I believe he ran as a fiscal conservative, but more of a social liberal.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Wow, it must be tough surviving in Dem liberal MN!

It's actually turning it bit. They still have their roots... with the union Democrats from the Iron Range (who aren't really liberal, but they vote their pocket book) with the inner city Democrats (mostly left-wing liberals). The past several elections have been relatively close.

[mraynrand]

Warren Harding was assassinated.

The jury is still out on this. As I recall, he died of a heart attack.

Got better!

[bobblehead]

I think rejoicing at the dearth of Tim Russert puts you out of the mainstream of conservative thought. Several conservatives here would probably agree with that.

Being a conservative, I, for one, didn't care for Tex's Russert postings.

Like I've stated in other threads, the namecalling crap is jr. high BS. I think most of us are beyond that level of behavior.

There have been times where Harlan or others have stated stuff that was beyond the pale. If, after a few replies back, it seemed pointless to continue, I logged out. The only reason being is if I continue to post my frustrations it serves no useful purpose.

It's not all that liberal anymore. They have a Republican Governor and at lesast one Republican Senator. It's more independent than liberal. When Ventura won there, I believe he ran as a fiscal conservative, but more of a social liberal.

I've voted republican for almost every election since 1980, going independant on one. I thought his (Tex's) comments were complete shit.

Wow, it must be tough surviving in Dem liberal MN!

It's not all that liberal anymore. They have a Republican Governor and at lesast one Republican Senator. It's more independent than liberal. When Ventura won there, I believe he ran as a fiscal conservative, but more of a social liberal.

and one muslim sworn into congress on the koran.