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Anti-Polar Bear
06-19-2006, 11:59 AM
Peter King gave Wolf's last draft in 01 a C-!!!

Here's what hes got to say:

"This was the Jamal Reynolds debacle at No. 10. A useless pass-rusher now out of football. Robert Ferguson has been an OK part-time starter, a decent second-round pick. Bhawoh Jue was mostly a nickel safety in his four years in Green Bay before leaving for San Diego as a free agent last year. Seventh-rounder David Martin has been a good No. 2 tight end. Martin, in fact, saved this draft from being a D."

Ferguson? Ok? Martin? Good? This was the draft that prevented Sherman from ever taking the Pack to the SB.

Partial
06-19-2006, 12:00 PM
Peter King is my favorite beat writer, but holy generous. Give that draft a big ol' F

Anti-Polar Bear
06-19-2006, 12:08 PM
People need to realize that because of that draft, Sherman had to sign Joe Johnson and trade up for Javon Walker. Johnson was the best DE in FA available at that time and Walker turned out to be a Super Star for the Packers until Ted Thompson comes along and made Walker disgrutled.

Sherman had to work off Wolf worste draft as Packer GM, and Sherman handled himself professionally, never going 4-12.

Anti-Polar Bear
06-19-2006, 12:10 PM
On a side note, King gave the Vikes and Bears Fs

"Minnesota. The only player of any value from this draft was Michael Bennett, who rushed for 3,174 yards in 49 starts. That is one mediocre running back. The last seven picks in this crop? Valueless."

"Chicago. I'll give you Anthony Thomas, a role-playing running back who's not great at anything. Decent second-round pick. But none of the six choices are still in Chicago, and David Terrell, eighth overall, dropped more big passes than he caught. A total washout for a team that hired Jerry Angelo two months later."

Tony Oday
06-19-2006, 01:54 PM
People need to realize that because of that draft, Sherman had to sign Joe Johnson and trade up for Javon Walker. Johnson was the best DE in FA available at that time and Walker turned out to be a Super Star for the Packers until Ted Thompson comes along and made Walker disgrutled.

Sherman had to work off Wolf worste draft as Packer GM, and Sherman handled himself professionally, never going 4-12.

ROFL

Sherman signed the best DE available that still sucked. Hey Im with you I loved this signing when it happened but it FAILED. Walker was a one year wonder for this team that no has more than likely lost a half step because of injury. Super Stars have more than one good year BTW.

Sherman was a good regular season coach that just cant win in the playoffs because he didnt have the guts to go for it all. What did he win one playoff game in the time he was here?

Partial
06-19-2006, 02:02 PM
People need to realize that because of that draft, Sherman had to sign Joe Johnson and trade up for Javon Walker. Johnson was the best DE in FA available at that time and Walker turned out to be a Super Star for the Packers until Ted Thompson comes along and made Walker disgrutled.

Sherman had to work off Wolf worste draft as Packer GM, and Sherman handled himself professionally, never going 4-12.

I will give you credit where credit is due and admit the top is true. However, it is due to the Joe Johnson and Cletius Hunt signings paired with poor drafting that made the team 4-12.

pbmax
06-19-2006, 02:44 PM
Peter King gave Wolf's last draft in 01 a C-!!!

Here's what hes got to say:

"This was the Jamal Reynolds debacle at No. 10. A useless pass-rusher now out of football. Robert Ferguson has been an OK part-time starter, a decent second-round pick. Bhawoh Jue was mostly a nickel safety in his four years in Green Bay before leaving for San Diego as a free agent last year. Seventh-rounder David Martin has been a good No. 2 tight end. Martin, in fact, saved this draft from being a D."

Ferguson? Ok? Martin? Good? This was the draft that prevented Sherman from ever taking the Pack to the SB.
APB this was hilarious. Sherman had already been hired as GM and Wolf was going to resign in February, if memory serves. Sherman convinced him to stay. Sherman got Seattle to up their deal for the Packers move to #10.

And drafting an A&M product from our ol' buddy Radio Controlled Slocum.

Smells like Mike Sherman. Here we are now, underwhelm us.

pbmax
06-19-2006, 02:55 PM
People need to realize that because of that draft, Sherman had to sign Joe Johnson and trade up for Javon Walker.
If one draft forces a GM to do anything drastic, he is panicking.

Sherman didn't have to do anything. It was Sherman's approach to blow up a position and rebuild it, artificially limiting his choices to that year's available players, WR was a good example at that time.

And he had choices in his line, he could have tendered KGB realistically instead of trying to be cute to keep his cap in shape. He could have resisted the urge to sign Hunt to big money. Thta means he could have kept the money around to sign Holliday. And then he could have held on to some draft choices and maybe hit on a DE.

Green Bud Packer
06-19-2006, 05:06 PM
the biggest mistake thompson has made was keeping sherm around for '05. the pack wouldn't be coming off any worse of a year and would have a second year coach and system in the works. apb you have as little faith in thompson as i had in sherman. i feel your pain. although i was proven right and the jury is still out on mr. thompson.

woodbuck27
06-19-2006, 06:36 PM
"Sherman got Seattle to up their deal for the Packers move to #10." pbmax

PLAYERS that went in the 2001 First Round, after we chose Jamal Reynolds:

** denotes a solid starter to date.

10 Green Bay Jamal Reynolds DE Florida State ( BUST )
11 Carolina Dan Morgan MLB Miami **
12 St. Louis Damione Lewis NT Miami (still active)
13 Jacksonville Marcus Stroud DT Georgia **
14 Tampa Bay Kenyatta Walker T Florida (still active)
15 Washington Rod Gardner WR Clemson (Still active - 'we hope')
16 N.Y. Jets Santana Moss WR Miami **
17 Seattle Steve Hutchinson G Michigan **
18 Detroit Jeff Backus T Michigan (still active)
19 Pittsburgh Casey Hampton NT Texas (still active)
20 St. Louis Adam Archuleta SS Arizona State **
21 Buffalo Nate Clements CB Ohio State **
22 N.Y. Giants Will Allen CB Syracuse **
23 New Orleans Deuce McAllister RB Mississippi **
24 Denver Willie Middlebrooks CB Minnesota (still active)
25 Philadelphia Freddie Mitchell WR UCLA
26 Miami Jamar Fletcher CB Wisconsin (still active)
27 Minnesota Michael Bennett RB Wisconsin (still active)
28 Oakland Derrick Gibson SS Florida State (still active)
29 St. Louis Ryan Pickett NT Ohio State (still active - 'we hope')
30 Indianapolis Reggie Wayne WR Miami **
31 Baltimore Todd Heap TE Arizona State **