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packers11
10-01-2008, 10:32 AM
pft.com

After Tuesday’s press conference in which Raiders owner Al Davis proved that he still has a 100-mph fastball — and that he’s willing to throw it at the head of anyone whom he thinks deserves it — Davis talked off-camera with the members of the media who attending the session.

He made several interesting disclosures, some of which had only been rumored in the past. Tim Kawakami of the San Jose Mercury News has many of the quotes.

Of former head coach Lane Kiffin, Davis said that he “conned me like he conned all you people.”

Davis also made other disclosures that had only been rumored in the past. For example, he said that Lane Kiffin, who didn’t want to select quarterback JaMarcus Russell with the first overall pick in the 2007 draft, at one point wanted to take Brady Quinn. This meshes with our report that the Raiders were negotiating with Quinn’s agent prior to the draft — and proves that Quinn would have been in a much better situation than he is now if he’d merely instructed his agent to get a deal done.

As to receiver Randy Moss, Davis said that Kiffin and his staff didn’t want him. Davis also said that Packers G.M. Ted Thompson “thought [Moss] couldn’t run any more.” And Davis took a shot at his arch-rivals from the AFC West: “Even Denver, where they’ll take anybody, turned [Moss] down.”

Davis also accused the Patriots of “tampering” with Moss: “But what’s his name knew he could run, he’s a friend of Belichick’s. Mike Lombardi. Mike sold what’s his name, Belichick, on the idea that he could run. They tampered with him. I remember Bob Kraft saying that he had to look him in the eye and all that. They went down and worked him out, he could run. He’s their team, of course, with the quarterback.”

Regarding Lombardi, a former Raiders exec who sued the team after he was fired in order to get a buyout of a contract that he didn’t have and who is now teeing off on Davis whenever he can, Davis said publicly what many league insiders have told us privately. “Mike Lombardi has been fired from every job he’s had,” Davis said. “Every job. He can’t get a job. Last year he was fired from a job he was working for for nothing. He was fired from Denver.”

Davis also confirmed that Lombardi was the in-house mole who was bad-mouthing former coach Art Shell, which prompted Shell’s head to nearly explode at a press conference two years ago. “[H]e was bad to Shell,” Davis said of Lombardi. “Not necessary. You can’t get that in an organization, somebody in the organization bad-mouthing the coach.”

Davis hinted that he has been talking to a “local” guy who might join the team in an executive role after the season.

As to former Raiders coach Mike Shanahan, whom Davis fired 19 years ago after four regular-season games, Davis was brutally candid: “When Shanahan left me, he went to Denver. He was there for about four or five years as an assistant and they fired him for insubordination. Dan Reeves and he had a big battle. He went to the 49ers and he learned their style of football and when Dan Reeves failed in Denver, the first guy they had was Wade Phillips, I think . . . then he brought Shanahan back. And Shanahan had success. But Shanahan has an asterisk next to those two Super Bowls, because they were caught cheating.”

As to former Raiders coach Norv Turner, Davis acknowledged that he possibly fired him too quickly. “Norv Turner does a good job as a coordinator and he’s doing a good job as a head coach. Now let’s see what he does. He’s got a good team. Let’s see what he does. I might have been impetuous with him. But he was a good guy.”

As to former Raiders coach Jon Gruden, Davis suggested that the 2001 playoff loss to the Patriots doomed the relationship. “The Tuck Game was the undoing of a lot of things,” Davis said.

It was a remarkable post-script to what was a memorable day. A man whom many believed had lost some of his faculties emerged to let us all know that he’s still got it, and that he’s still committed to making the Raiders competitive.

“You’re going to have to have me around for a while,” Davis said. “My mother, you know, she lived a long time, 103.”

MTPackerfan
10-01-2008, 11:11 AM
So he is insinuating the Broncos Cheated against the Packers in the SB (and Atlanta). I am curious as to what they were doing to be cheating? And who has an asterik by the Broncos? The NFL, the Raiders?

Zool
10-01-2008, 11:12 AM
They overspent, circumvented the salary cap. Or so the rumors go.

MadtownPacker
10-01-2008, 11:15 AM
Damnnnnnnn!! Thats was some sheeze. He went off. Some of it has to be true.

Badgerinmaine
10-01-2008, 11:16 AM
Al Davis said,

“Not necessary. You can’t get that in an organization, somebody in the organization bad-mouthing the coach.”


Al would neeeeeever do that himself, would he? :)

Patler
10-01-2008, 11:27 AM
They overspent, circumvented the salary cap. Or so the rumors go.

It's fact, not rumor. The Broncos were fined and had two draft picks taken away as penalties for what they did. It was just not very highly publicized at the time.

mraynrand
10-01-2008, 11:31 AM
I'm surprised Davis didn't mention 'Super Soup' and McCaffery, Sharpe, and Romanowski, all whom are in the Steroids Hall of Fame.

sheepshead
10-01-2008, 11:45 AM
Oh gee whiz, here I thought TT mishandled the Randy Moss case. Golly shucks.

KYPack
10-01-2008, 01:10 PM
Denver did extensive salary cap cheating during their Super Bowl run. Many thought the violations were sufficient to strip them of their Super Bowl titles, but no way the image conscious NFL would go for that.

In December 2001, the league imposed a fine of $968,000 and stripped the Broncos of a third-round pick in the 2002 draft. The punishment arose from cap violations relating to $29 million in deferred payments to quarterback John Elway and running back Terrell Davis. The Elway payments were routed thru Elway's car dealerships to avoid league scrutiny.

In September 2004, the NFL fined the Broncos again for $950,000 and a third-round pick in the 2005 draft. These sanctions related to cap violations occurring between 1996 and 1998.

The other NFL team substantially penalized by the league was the Steelers.

The 49ers were found guilty of various kinds salary cheating, but the organization was able to avoid substantial penalty. The whiners lost a 3rd and a fifth round pick. The two execs found guilty of the violations were Dwight Clark and Carmen Policy. Policy and Clark worked for the Browns when the finding came down, so they were censured, but not punished. This was widely seen as a whitewash and cover-up by the NFL.

Carolina_Packer
10-01-2008, 08:48 PM
I know he can do/say whatever he wants as the owner, but why? Al just sounds like a bitter old man; one who cares not about any kind of legacy. He seems to have no dignity any more, or else he'd use some kind of discretion and not air all this stuff publicly. I think a lot of it is just trying to cover for the fact that he's run the team into the ground, and he's responsible.

Tyrone Bigguns
10-01-2008, 09:29 PM
I'm surprised Davis didn't mention 'Super Soup' and McCaffery, Sharpe, and Romanowski, all whom are in the Steroids Hall of Fame.

You have sources/rumors of sharpe and McCaffery?

mraynrand
10-01-2008, 09:58 PM
I'm surprised Davis didn't mention 'Super Soup' and McCaffery, Sharpe, and Romanowski, all whom are in the Steroids Hall of Fame.

You have sources/rumors of sharpe and McCaffery?

I'm too lazy to try and find it, but I researched this a while ago and posted it on this site. There is a connection but I really should be more careful with respect to Sharpe and McCaffery. Sharpe and McCaffery look the part though.

Tyrone Bigguns
10-02-2008, 02:32 PM
I'm surprised Davis didn't mention 'Super Soup' and McCaffery, Sharpe, and Romanowski, all whom are in the Steroids Hall of Fame.

You have sources/rumors of sharpe and McCaffery?

I'm too lazy to try and find it, but I researched this a while ago and posted it on this site. There is a connection but I really should be more careful with respect to Sharpe and McCaffery. Sharpe and McCaffery look the part though.

I've never heard this. Not saying it isn't true, but if you get the time or anyone else see this..post it.

mraynrand
10-02-2008, 03:45 PM
I can't find the information on Sharpe and McCaffery so I withdraw my claim, with apologies (in case anyone actually cares). I didn't check Romanowski's book, which I believe contains information about his steroid use and about the souper soup, which contained stimulants. The book I think told who actually ate the soup, but I don't recall from memory. If I check the book out, I'll update the info.

Scott Campbell
10-02-2008, 04:21 PM
I didn't check Romanowski's book, which I believe contains information about his steroid use and about the souper soup, which contained stimulants.


I can't be sure, but Romanowski's steroid use seems like it may have altered his demeanor just a bit.

Tyrone Bigguns
10-02-2008, 05:00 PM
I was never questioning anything about Romanowski. Though, i don't think he ever admitted to roids. He took a ton of supplements and stuff that later became illegal or were borderline.

I'm by no means suggesting that he never took roids.

Patler
10-02-2008, 06:45 PM
As I recall, Sharpe got on the bad side of the NFL in the late 1990s when he became spokesman, endorser, whatever for a major creatine supplier who supplied other supplements as well. The NFL wasn't happy about the extent of his involvement. Several other Broncos were involved too. I don't recall if McCaffery was one or not.

Scott Campbell
10-02-2008, 06:47 PM
I'm surprised Davis didn't mention 'Super Soup' and McCaffery, Sharpe, and Romanowski, all whom are in the Steroids Hall of Fame.

You have sources/rumors of sharpe and McCaffery?



Yeah, well we didn't have proof that Clay Aiken was gay either.