Official 2009 draft thread

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well, it seems to be about that time

it looks like we'll be picking, maybe somewhere around the middle of the rounds, if not higher

what are we looking for?

i say o-line help with maybe an OT in the 1st, and maybe looking at another cb in the 1st. there seems to b a lot of cb talent near the top again next year

but o-line is our main concern. i wouldn't mind spending every pick on o-line help next year

or trade some god damn picks and get proven o-line help

i've already noticed a few mocks having us take Alphonso Smith, a cb from wake

[Scott Campbell]

I said it last year. I'll say it again now. DE. Next up - OT.

[Iron Mike]

I said it last year. I'll say it again now. DE. Next up - OT.

Agreed. We need to jettison KGB.

[sheepshead]

Somebody erase this thread sheesh

[Kyle.McCarroll]

Yep. DE seems like what we need.

We won't go OT in the first unless some of the blue's are still there, because typically the talent dropoff isn't that bad after the blue's are off the board.

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I said it last year. I'll say it again now. DE. Next up - OT.

Agreed. We need to jettison KGB.

i've been saying that for i think 3 years now

i'd be find taking a de and moving jenkins back inside. there doesn't seem to be a big wealth of solid all around de's though

[Pacopete4]

we should just tank this season to get a good DE :o

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we should just tank this season to get a good DE :o

i don't see any worth tanking for, to tell the truth

[Kyle.McCarroll]

we should just tank this season to get a good DE :o

i don't see any worth tanking for, to tell the truth

You're right. George Selve is probably the consensus number one at this point, and he's exactly what we don't need.

6' 4" 245 lbs. Puhleasse... That has "Pass Rush Specialist" written all over him.

[arcilite]

We need to draft a WR with the first pick.





jk.


any OL or DL is fine with me.

[Pacopete4]

we should trade down.. gather up a ton of picks late in the rounds and hopefully build up great team depth that we saw on the field today :?:

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we should trade down.. gather up a ton of picks late in the rounds and hopefully build up great team depth that we saw on the field today :?:

yeah, whats happened to all the great team depth that we were suppose to have

looks to me like we still can't afford to lose any starters

well, maybe wells

[Kyle.McCarroll]

we should trade down.. gather up a ton of picks late in the rounds and hopefully build up great team depth that we saw on the field today :?:

yeah, whats happened to all the great team depth that we were suppose to have

looks to me like we still can't afford to lose any starters

well, maybe wells

Sense the sarcasm.

[motife]

Right now I'm saying 7-9 after the Falcons game loss and no playoffs of course.

at Seattle L
INDY L
at Tenn L
at Vikes W
Bears W
at NO L
Carolina W
Houston W
at Jax L
at Chi L
Detroit W

Kind of a letdown after 13-3. I'd guess they the 13th pick in the draft.

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heres a few players to watch

cb

Malcolm Jenkins, CB, Ohio State
Vontae Davis, CB, Illinois
Darius Butler, CB, Connecticut
Captain Munnerlyn, CB, South Carolina
Alphonso Smith, CB, Wake Forest
Mike Mickens, CB, Cincinnati

de

Michael Johnson, DE, Georgia Tech
Tyson Jackson, DE, LSU
Brian Orakpo, Texas, DE/OLB
George Selvie South Florida
Greg Hardy Mississippi
Greg Middleton Indiana
Matt Shaughnessy Wisconsin

tyson jackson is a nice big, massive DE. 6'4 295

dt's

DeMarcus Granger* Oklahoma
Sen'Derrick Marks* Auburn
Fili Moala USC
Ricky Jean-Francois* LSU
B.J. Raji Boston College
Evander Hood Missouri
Geno Atkins* Georgia
George Hypolite Colorado
Marlon Favorite LSU
Darryl Richard Georgia Tech

OT's

Andre Smith* Alabama
Michael Oher Mississippi
Eugene Monroe Virginia
Ciron Black* LSU
Phil Loadholt Oklahoma
Jamon Meredith South Carolina
Sam Young* Notre Dame
Jason Smith Baylor
Alex Boone Ohio State
Xavier Fulton Illinois
Fenuki Tupou Oregon

OG

Duke Robinson Oklahoma
Herman Johnson LSU
Jeremy Perry Oregon State
Kraig Urbik Wisconsin
Anthony Parker Tennessee
Trevor Canfield Cincinnati
Cedric Dockery Texas
Dallas Reynolds BYU
Andy Kemp Wisconsin
Jamie Thomas Maryland

C

Alex Mack California
Jonathan Luigs Arkansas
Max Unger Oregon
Brett Helms LSU
Eric Wood Louisville

[Zool]

Right now I'm saying 7-9 after the Falcons game loss and no playoffs of course.

at Seattle L
INDY L
at Tenn L
at Vikes W
Bears W
at NO L
Carolina W
Houston W
at Jax L
at Chi L
Detroit W

Kind of a letdown after 13-3. I'd guess they the 13th pick in the draft.

If we lose at Seattle, I might not watch another game this year. Thats an awful team.

[Kyle.McCarroll]

heres a few players to watch

cb

Malcolm Jenkins, CB, Ohio State
Vontae Davis, CB, Illinois
Darius Butler, CB, Connecticut
Captain Munnerlyn, CB, South Carolina
Alphonso Smith, CB, Wake Forest
Mike Mickens, CB, Cincinnati

de

Michael Johnson, DE, Georgia Tech
Tyson Jackson, DE, LSU
Brian Orakpo, Texas, DE/OLB
George Selvie South Florida
Greg Hardy Mississippi
Greg Middleton Indiana
Matt Shaughnessy Wisconsin

tyson jackson is a nice big, massive DE. 6'4 295

dt's

DeMarcus Granger* Oklahoma
Sen'Derrick Marks* Auburn
Fili Moala USC
Ricky Jean-Francois* LSU
B.J. Raji Boston College
Evander Hood Missouri
Geno Atkins* Georgia
George Hypolite Colorado
Marlon Favorite LSU
Darryl Richard Georgia Tech

OT's

Andre Smith* Alabama
Michael Oher Mississippi
Eugene Monroe Virginia
Ciron Black* LSU
Phil Loadholt Oklahoma
Jamon Meredith South Carolina
Sam Young* Notre Dame
Jason Smith Baylor
Alex Boone Ohio State
Xavier Fulton Illinois
Fenuki Tupou Oregon

OG

Duke Robinson Oklahoma
Herman Johnson LSU
Jeremy Perry Oregon State
Kraig Urbik Wisconsin
Anthony Parker Tennessee
Trevor Canfield Cincinnati
Cedric Dockery Texas
Dallas Reynolds BYU
Andy Kemp Wisconsin
Jamie Thomas Maryland

C

Alex Mack California
Jonathan Luigs Arkansas
Max Unger Oregon
Brett Helms LSU
Eric Wood Louisville

Ahhh...draft talk. I am a contributer to a draft site, so this is what I love.

Let me add my two cents to that list.

CB- To me, it wouldn't seem like TT would go CB this year, seeing as how we have so much invested in young CB talent right now.

DE-This position will be extensively researched by Thompson and his crew. We have absolutely no pass rush, and KGB's time may be coming to a close. Michael Johnson and George Selvie seem like the type of players that TT will stray from, because of their weight. Johnson is 260 lbs, so he could put on some weight, but Selvie is only 245 lbs. These two have "Pass Rush Specialist Only" written all over them. With the problems we have in the running game, TT isn't going to want a one-dimensional player. Tyson Jackson is more of what I think TT will target. Jackson is a 6'5" 290 lb DE, which means that he could provide a pass rush and still be able to hold his own against the run. However, with his size, he would be a perfect fit for a 3-4 DE, so other teams will have their eyes on him as well.

OT- Everyone in the draft community so far seems amazed by the Big 3 (Michael Oher, Andre Smith, and Eugene Monroe), but they will not be playing for the Packers. None of these three are ZBS OTs. What does this mean? Simple; TT will not be going OT in the first. It is too easy to find talent in the later rounds at this position. The risk/reward is just simply not there. The only exception that could even remotely happen would be Jason Smith/Baylor. He is a perfect fit for the ZBS. But it looks to me that the Packers will be going with Colledge as their LT of the future, and with him and Tauscher this is not a position of dire need at the moment.

OG-Same rules that apply to OTs apply to the OGs, except multiplied by two. When teams go OG in the first round, you can almost always label it as a reach. Too much talent in the later rounds to get caught up in the hype of a first round OG. Usually, when OGs are taken in the first round, it is to play (non-ZBS) OT in the NFL.

C- Forget it. We have our center for the future. His name is Jason Spitz.

**Someone you may want to watch is Jermaine Gresham, TE/OU. He is a dynamic play-maker, and if he is available when we pick he may just be BPA. Gresham would open up the seams for A-Rod and give the Packers another offensive threat.

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do the packers need a playmaking TE? or one that can block once in awhile?

we almost need the blocking help more these days

unfortunately

and i for one would love the pack to ditch the zbs this next offseason, and bring in some good old fashion beef

[Kyle.McCarroll]

do the packers need a playmaking TE? or one that can block once in awhile?

we almost need the blocking help more these days

unfortunately

and i for one would love the pack to ditch the zbs this next offseason, and bring in some good old fashion beef

Very good point.

And Gresham can give us that. He is BIG for a TE (6' 6" 260 lbs) and blocks VERY well. He can do it all. He's the black Jason Whitten.

Imagine having a guy like that on your team.

[RashanGary]

I think we need to go away from the midget lineman. If you can bring in a big, strong, bookend left tackle that can drive block and pass protect I think it could do this team a lot of good. It's early, but it's shaping up like another good year for OT's and also a good year for corners. With a lot of teams taking OT's early last draft maybe a great one slips to us in the middle of round 1.

[Kyle.McCarroll]

I think we need to go away from the midget lineman. If you can bring in a big, strong, bookend left tackle that can drive block and pass protect I think it could do this team a lot of good. It's early, but it's shaping up like another good year for OT's and also a good year for corners. With a lot of teams taking OT's early last draft maybe a great one slips to us in the middle of round 1.

It could happen, but we are not going away from the ZBS, as much as eveyrone hates it, and not none of the elite OTs fit the ZBS, except Jason Smith. Don't count on TT going OT early this year.

[3irty1]

I don't see a reason to draft OL more than any other position. There is no really weak link that's killing us, they just haven't played well as a unit. Unless of course people think all 5 need to be replaced!

DL is definitely more of an area of need. We could use at least one DE and probably a DT too since they can't stay healthy.

[Kyle.McCarroll]

I don't see a reason to draft OL more than any other position. There is no really weak link that's killing us, they just haven't played well as a unit. Unless of course people think all 5 need to be replaced!

DL is definitely more of an area of need. We could use at least one DE and probably a DT too since they can't stay healthy.

You have to remember that Justin Harrell will be back (well maybe) and we will get Jenkins back next year too. If we can get a stud DE, we can move Jenkins back inside on some downs, and get a really good D-line rotation going. I think a "non Pass Rush Specialist" DE is a need for us right now.

I remember in the 2006 Draft there was talk of Mario Williams falling to us. Imagine what could have been with him and Kampman...