Greg Jennings, top tier WR?

[red]

so, i think its safe to say that our little wr has taken the next step in his career and has become one of the top Wr's in the game. he's one of the elite

he's on pace for 1750 yards and 11 td's on 90 catches

where does he rank?

is he in the same category as TO and moss? or is he in the next group?

oh, and he will be in the pro bowl this year

[Tony Oday]

No he is not. He is a really good WR. He has too keep it up and stay healthy a full year.

He has the talent! Don't get me wrong!

[Partial]

2nd tier.

[falco]

i say greg jennings is a top tier WR

how can you say he has to do it all year, when he did it last year as well?

but what do i know

[falco]

oh and i know he is on pace to obliterate last year, but stats don't tell it all - he was a playmaker last year, and his TD numbers reflect that

[BF4MVP]

A few weeks back I said that I think Jennings is better than Owens..I still stand by that, even though I know I'm the only one who feels that way.

[MJZiggy]

I don't care how he ranks against any of the other receivers. What I care about is that he keeps catching those bombs and scoring touchdowns on startled opponents. He always seems to get those when we really need a spark. I think when it's all said and done, he will compare favorable with any one else in the league.

[falco]

A few weeks back I said that I think Jennings is better than Owens..I still stand by that, even though I know I'm the only one who feels that way.

I feel that way, but I'm a homer

and _maybe_ Owens is a tad more talented, but Jennings is younger, has more potential, and is much more a "team player"

[RashanGary]

Top tier.

[BF4MVP]

A few weeks back I said that I think Jennings is better than Owens..I still stand by that, even though I know I'm the only one who feels that way.

I feel that way, but I'm a homer
:glug:


and _maybe_ Owens is a tad more talented, but Jennings is younger, has more potential, and is much more a "team player"
Agreed. Owens has a ton of talent obviously (he's a future HOFer) but these days, he's almost 35 and has a case of the dropsies to go along with his terrible attitude problem..

I'll take Jennings.

[Rastak]

Top Tier.

[BallHawk]

With his age and his personality/work ethic, there is no other WR in the league I would trade him for.

Andre Johnson would be a push.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

With his age and his personality/work ethic, there is no other WR in the league I would trade him for.

Andre Johnson would be a push.

I would take Larry Fitzgerald over him any day. The catches he made against the Boys were incredible.

[Fritz]

Since everyone keeps talking about "top tier" and "second tier," will someone please explain how many wide receivers are in a "tier"???

[bobblehead]

With his age and his personality/work ethic, there is no other WR in the league I would trade him for.

Andre Johnson would be a push.

I would take Larry Fitzgerald over him any day. The catches he made against the Boys were incredible.

As good as he has been, Jennings isn't 6'3" tall and that will keep him just a tad under the top guys. What he does he does well, but ty is right...he is no Fitzgerald.

[bobblehead]

Since everyone keeps talking about "top tier" and "second tier," will someone please explain how many wide receivers are in a "tier"???

8

[MadtownPacker]

With his age and his personality/work ethic, there is no other WR in the league I would trade him for.

Andre Johnson would be a push.

I would take Larry Fitzgerald over him any day. The catches he made against the Boys were incredible.Fitzgerald made a great catch but Greg "the big play" Jennings makes great plays. Have to go with #85 if you need a TD and you need it now. Give him the $$$ now!!

[Partial]

I would take...

Calvin Johnson
TO
Randy Moss
Larry Fitz

over him

[Fritz]

[quote=Fritz]Since everyone keeps talking about "top tier" and "second tier," will someone please explain how many wide receivers are in a "tier"???

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Thank you, Bobble head. If a tier is 8, then hell yes Jennings is top tier.

Name eight wide receivers who are better than Jennings.

Owens? Moss? Fitzgerald? Johnson?

Who else?

[Tyrone Bigguns]

With his age and his personality/work ethic, there is no other WR in the league I would trade him for.

Andre Johnson would be a push.

I would take Larry Fitzgerald over him any day. The catches he made against the Boys were incredible.

As good as he has been, Jennings isn't 6'3" tall and that will keep him just a tad under the top guys. What he does he does well, but ty is right...he is no Fitzgerald.

I know that must have killed you to write that. :wink:

There are a number of receivers that i would take over jennings. That doesnt' mean i don't like him. I put these guys here based on talent.

Q...big, tough, great blocker, fearless.

Fitz...his game speaks for itself.

Ocho

Steve Smith...a one man wrecking crew.

Colston

Andre johnson

Plax...all he does is produce. Wasn't able to practice last year and look at how he played in games.

Randy Moss..yes, he has had a bad attitude, but not last year...and, he demands double coverage.

Reggie Wayne/Marvin Harrison

Welker...prolly a tie, but he may be the best slot receiver in the league. Plus, he is white!!!

There are a number of receivers that I would put in the same cat as Jennings:

Coles
S. moss
Reggie Brown
Brandon Marshall
Housh
Roddy White
Dwayne Bowe
Lee Evans

[Bossman641]

With his age and his personality/work ethic, there is no other WR in the league I would trade him for.

Andre Johnson would be a push.

I would take Larry Fitzgerald over him any day. The catches he made against the Boys were incredible.

As good as he has been, Jennings isn't 6'3" tall and that will keep him just a tad under the top guys. What he does he does well, but ty is right...he is no Fitzgerald.

I know that must have killed you to write that. :wink:

There are a number of receivers that i would take over jennings. That doesnt' mean i don't like him. I put these guys here based on talent.

Q...big, tough, great blocker, fearless.

Fitz...his game speaks for itself.

Ocho

Steve Smith...a one man wrecking crew.

Colston

Andre johnson

Plax...all he does is produce. Wasn't able to practice last year and look at how he played in games.

Randy Moss..yes, he has had a bad attitude, but not last year...and, he demands double coverage.

Reggie Wayne/Marvin Harrison

Welker...prolly a tie, but he may be the best slot receiver in the league. Plus, he is white!!!

There are a number of receivers that I would put in the same cat as Jennings:

Coles
S. moss
Reggie Brown
Brandon Marshall
Housh
Roddy White
Dwayne Bowe
Lee Evans

Reggie Brown? You can't be for real

[The Shadow]

Absolutely a top tier receiver at this point.
And there's still an upside.

[The Shadow]

I would take...

Calvin Johnson
TO
Randy Moss
Larry Fitz

over him


Or any other wide receiver NOT drafted by Ted Thompson, right?
(You forgot Bobby Engram, Marty Booker, Bobby Wade, etc.)

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Bossman,

Brown has been injured...but, he has 10 catches for 163 yards...that is in 2 games.

I coulda added others. Have you looked at Bruce's numbers. Considering who is tossing him the ball...19 yard average and 5 tds.

Should i put DeSean Jackson up as well. Or Kevin Curtis.

[falco]

wow ty, you're so off base on this one its not funny

[Packers4Ever]

I don't care how he ranks against any of the other receivers. What I care about is that he keeps catching those bombs and scoring touchdowns on startled opponents. He always seems to get those when we really need a spark. I think when it's all said and done, he will compare favorable with any one else in the league.

Agreed, he was an eyecatcher from Day 1

and still has a great career ahead of him. 8-)

[Tyrone Bigguns]

wow ty, you're so off base on this one its not funny

Right. Based on what...like his increased production every year. His 61 catches last year. That he has never had less than 40 catches a year.

I didnt' say he was better. I said he is in the same tier.

[Bossman641]

Bossman,

Brown has been injured...but, he has 10 catches for 163 yards...that is in 2 games.

I coulda added others. Have you looked at Bruce's numbers. Considering who is tossing him the ball...19 yard average and 5 tds.

Should i put DeSean Jackson up as well. Or Kevin Curtis.

Reggie Brown hasn't been a top or even second tier WR. Isaac Bruce? He of 303 yards and 4 TD's? He was a top WR about 8 years ago.

Let's get serious Ty.

[packers11]

Jennings leads the league in yards with 653...

the next 4 behind him are

Roddy White - 566
Larry Fitz - 546
Marshall - 521
Witten - 497


TY stop posting without actually doing some research... You make yourself look like a complete moron...

[HarveyWallbangers]

Reggie Brown hasn't been a top or even second tier WR. Isaac Bruce? He of 303 yards and 4 TD's? He was a top WR about 8 years ago.

Let's get serious Ty.

It's pretty laughable. He started off pretty good, but it went downhill as the post got longer.

[Guiness]

I don't know TB - lot of guys on that list I wouldn't dream of swapping Jennings for.

So many things to look at here. If we're talking about whether or not Jennings is an elite receiver, we also have to talk about where that puts DD - because there have been a lot of discussions, and many felt DD is still our #1 guy - at least going into this season. Has that changed?

As an overall package, I don't think there are many guys in the league I'd rather have than Jennings. Some of the guys I'd put in the elite tier have been around for a while, so age matters, and you're talking about a limited amount of time they'll remain effective for.

My elite list would be TO and R. Moss, Harrison, Chad Johnson (who really isn't any more) and Steve Smith who are all over 30. Fitzgerald, Andre Johnson and Colston who are close in age to Jennings.

My feelings are that I'd rather have any of the second group then Jennings. I'd rather have 3 or 4 of the first group for this year, but not if we were talking long term.

There's a whole mess of guys a stutter step behing this crew, like Buress, Wayne, Welker, S. Moss, etc...pretty much every team's #1 WR. But I don't think we're talking about them.

There is one special case out there, and that would be Calvin Johnson. I don't consider him elite, or even second tier with Jennings yet, but there's that potential, with a capital P.

edit: Steve Smith is 29...

[Scott Campbell]

Top tier - at least until his production drops off.

[oregonpackfan]

Sunday's TD catch against Seattle highlighted one of Jennings' talents--his ability to catch passes in traffic. Truffant actually had pretty good coverage on that play. Jennings, however, went up and brought that ball down for a score.

The catch was special to watch because I was sitting on that side of the field at Qwest. The pass was a pinpoint spiral from "sore-shouldered" Rodgers.

If you recall, the score at the time was 10-10 with the Seahawks fans quite loud through the first half. With that magnificent pass and catch for the score, the Seahawks fans were quiet the rest of the game.

It was the turning point of the game, IMO.

[bobblehead]

With his age and his personality/work ethic, there is no other WR in the league I would trade him for.

Andre Johnson would be a push.

I would take Larry Fitzgerald over him any day. The catches he made against the Boys were incredible.

As good as he has been, Jennings isn't 6'3" tall and that will keep him just a tad under the top guys. What he does he does well, but ty is right...he is no Fitzgerald.

I know that must have killed you to write that. :wink:



Nah, I agree with you most of the time on football matters...makes me wonder how you ever came to your political views. :twisted:

And I was half joking with the number 8...Sometimes I do that...it aggravates hoosier to no end (87% :P) In my mind its obvious I'm joking, but in type people miss it. I don't think you can put a # on tier 1 guys...it would simply be the best in the league that there is a noticeable difference after. It can very by decade. Rice was tier 1 in his era....everyone else was tier 2. Jennings may be tier 1, but again, let me see him actually put together 2-3 seasons comparable to say....chris chambers before we put them in the same category. I said the same thing about ryan grant if you wanna dig up that thread. Sometimes guys can look great for spurts, but to date jennings hasn't played 16 games in a season.

edit: it can even vary by decade before the spelling nazis get me.

[run pMc]

Some of Ty's comments are on point. There several WR's I'd take over GJ, but he's been an important playmaker...which is saying something. I don't think he's in the same class as TO, Moss, Fitzgerald, Ocho, Plex, etc., but I think he's comparable to Steve Smith...not a big WR but has runs decent routes with good hands & quickness. IMO he's replaced DD as the #1 WR.

I'd like to see TT lock him up long term.

He's a very good WR who might become an elite WR. He has an outside shot at making the Pro Bowl as an alternate.

[Tony Oday]

I would only take Andre, Fitz or Wayne.

There are then players like Moss, TO, Ocho and Housh but I wouldnt want them on my team!

[Partial]

Cad Johnson is the most over rated receiver in the league these days.

[bobblehead]

Jennings:

2006 Green Bay 14 45 632 45.1 14.0 75 6.2 30 3 0 0 0.0 0 0 5 29 5.8 10 0 1 0
2007 Green Bay 13 53 920 70.8 17.4 82 7.4 37 12 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0
2008 Green Bay 6 34 653 108.8 19.2 62 6.6 23 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Career 33 132 2205 66.8 16.7 82 6.8 90 19 0 0 0.0 0 0 5 29 5.8 10 0 2 0

Fitzgerald:


2004 Arizona 16 58 780 48.8 13.4 48 3.3 36 8 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 1 0
2005 Arizona 16 103 1409 88.1 13.7 47 3.7 67 10 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2006 Arizona 13 69 946 72.8 13.7 57 3.2 52 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2007 Arizona 15 100 1409 93.9 14.1 48 3.0 69 10 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 3
2008 Arizona 6 36 546 91.0 15.2 75 5.7 27 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Career 66 366 5090 77.1 13.9 75 3.5 251 39 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 4 3

Boldin:

2003 Arizona 16 101 1377 86.1 13.6 71 5.7 62 8 0 0 0.0 0 0 20 130 6.5 19 0 2 2
2004 Arizona 10 56 623 62.3 11.1 31 3.0 32 1 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 1 1
2005 Arizona 14 102 1402 100.1 13.7 54 5.3 68 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 1
2006 Arizona 16 83 1203 75.2 14.5 64 6.1 53 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0
2007 Arizona 12 71 853 71.1 12.0 44 5.2 43 9 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 1
2008 Arizona 4 27 366 91.5 13.6 79 7.1 20 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1
Career 72 440 5824 80.9 13.2 79 5.3 278 34 0 0 0.0 0 0 20 130 6.5 19 0 9 6



Shouldn't we let Jennings actually complete a 1000 yard season before we have this discussion?

[DonHutson]

Would you like Jennings to be 6'4 and 230 pounds with blazing speed? I suppose, but isn't the bigger issue plain old ability to get the job done?

He gets it done. Period.

It's clutch time? Do or die? No problem. The higher the stakes, the bigger he plays.

In fact, none of the bigger guys have the open field moves of Jennings. Guys like Steve Smith, Marvin Harrison, and Reggie Wayne aren't the prototype either. Who cares? Get them the ball and they deliver.

Drew Brees is 6'0 standing on a phone book. Did that hurt him in the draft? Yes. Is it hurting him in the NFL? Not much. He gets it done.

So where does Jennings rank? Right up there in the top tier with Moss, Owens, Wayne, Fitzgerald, Marshall, Andre Johnson, and Steve Smith.

[sharpe1027]

As good as he has been, Jennings isn't 6'3" tall and that will keep him just a tad under the top guys. What he does he does well, but ty is right...he is no Fitzgerald.

There was this one WR, I think he played for a west coast team...Maybe the 49ers. He wasn't very tall or overly fast, but I think he was pretty good. :wink:

You can have your size, speed and a couple spectacular catches, you'll end up with the Detroit Lions' roster. I'll take the production.

I do agree that we need to let him finish a couple years at his current level before we put him in the HoF.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Shouldn't we let Jennings actually complete a 1000 yard season before we have this discussion?

Not really. It's not about who has had a better career. It's about who is better RIGHT NOW. I'd put a handful of guys in tier one (Owens, Moss, Fitzgerald, Marshall, A. Johnson, Wayne). I'd put Jennings with a big group of WRs in tier 2.

[packers11]

If Jennings isn't a "top WR" according to some of you... Why is he blowing everyone out in yards???

PLEASE DONT SAY "Rodgers makes him better than he really is" :roll:

[Patler]

If Jennings isn't a "top WR" according to some of you... Why is he blowing everyone out in yards???

PLEASE DONT SAY "Rodgers makes him better than he really is" :roll:

But is Rodgers making him better than Favre did? :lol: (Patler ducks for cover!!!)

[cheesner]

Jennings is top tier.

To say he isn't because of his physical measureables, is not fair. Marvin Harrison and steve Smith did not fit the TO/Moss mold and they were top tier at one time.

Right now I would put the top tier as:

Fitz, Calvin Johnson, Andre Johnson, Jennings, Moss, Braylon Edwards, and TO.

I would prefer a big fast reciever like Fitz or CJ, but it isn't necessary when you are getting as good of production out of a smaller guy.

[Bossman641]

Jennings is top tier.

To say he isn't because of his physical measureables, is not fair. Marvin Harrison and steve Smith did not fit the TO/Moss mold and they were top tier at one time.

Right now I would put the top tier as:

Fitz, Calvin Johnson, Andre Johnson, Jennings, Moss, Braylon Edwards, and TO.

I would prefer a big fast reciever like Fitz or CJ, but it isn't necessary when you are getting as good of production out of a smaller guy.

The problem is when people think of dominating, top tier WR's they think of guys like TO and Braylon - tall, fast, physical WR's who can go up and get the ball. Jennings doesn't meet the prototype, but he is still top tier.

I agree with your list, except I'd drop Calvin Johnson and add Brandon Marshall and Reggie Wayne. Boldin is another guy that I would put probably just below the top tier. He was killing before he got injured.

[Harlan Huckleby]

short people got no reason to live

[Charles Woodson]

But it depends,
It depends on what you define a top tier reciver as. Because there are few complete recievers. I dont watch enough film to say who.
And it also depends what your basing it on... If you say production this year then Fitz and Jennings would be 1-2.
Andre Johnson and Boldin should also be up their...

[GoPackGo]

^^^^^^
I agree with Tyrone's analysis. Jennings is a great route runner with great hands. If he was a little taller he would be unstoppable and the 2nd coming of Jerry Rice.

[bobblehead]

As good as he has been, Jennings isn't 6'3" tall and that will keep him just a tad under the top guys. What he does he does well, but ty is right...he is no Fitzgerald.

There was this one WR, I think he played for a west coast team...Maybe the 49ers. He wasn't very tall or overly fast, but I think he was pretty good. :wink:

You can have your size, speed and a couple spectacular catches, you'll end up with the Detroit Lions' roster. I'll take the production.

I do agree that we need to let him finish a couple years at his current level before we put him in the HoF.

sorry to confuse...that was merely my opinion. I don't think its not possible for him to become tier one, but my opinion is that he will stay just shy.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Bossman,

Brown has been injured...but, he has 10 catches for 163 yards...that is in 2 games.

I coulda added others. Have you looked at Bruce's numbers. Considering who is tossing him the ball...19 yard average and 5 tds.

Should i put DeSean Jackson up as well. Or Kevin Curtis.

Reggie Brown hasn't been a top or even second tier WR. Isaac Bruce? He of 303 yards and 4 TD's? He was a top WR about 8 years ago.

Let's get serious Ty.

Reggie Brown certainly has been a 2nd tier. Remember who was tossing the ball and their health issues. Remember they have more receivers and toss the ball their rbs more than us. You can't penalize a guy because of the system they play in.

But, if you dont' want to put him there..then, how on earth can you put jennings based on his past production. 45 and 53 receptions. No 1000 yards. Yes, he did have 12 tds last year.

Brown had 46 and 61 receptions. He had 8 tds in his best year and 17.7 ypc. Which pretty much mirrors Jennings..cept for 4 less tds.

Bruce: Yeah, i guess having JT toss you the ball wouldn't affect you. But, I guess Bruce having essentially the same ypc, as many tds with far less receptions and having a longer td reception wouldn't count. Or the fact that he is the #1 receiver on the Niners.

As for his past..you dont' know what you are talking about. I guess 55 receptions and 74 the previous year really puts him outside the second tier...with a new system/coach and team that is falling apart. :oops:

You are like most packer fans..you overrate your own players while underrating the rest of the league.

[Zool]

Maybe its you who is the typical over thinker of your own team. You feel "smarter" because you talk down about players that obvious homers are in love with. I'd take Jennings any day over Reggie Brown and Isaac Bruce. Not Bruce circa 1999, but Bruce today.

[bobblehead]

Shouldn't we let Jennings actually complete a 1000 yard season before we have this discussion?

Not really. It's not about who has had a better career. It's about who is better RIGHT NOW. I'd put a handful of guys in tier one (Owens, Moss, Fitzgerald, Marshall, A. Johnson, Wayne). I'd put Jennings with a big group of WRs in tier 2.

damn internet crashed and wiped out a long response.

Ok,you convinced me...jennings is leading the league in yards right now so he is the best. Grant is second best RB cuz he put together an 8 game run at the end of last season.

I'm not saying he can't become that guy or anything like that, but honestly fitz has TWO 1400 yard seasons with shitty QB's....you really wanna tell me jennings belongs in his class?? Has a defense actually gameplanned to stop jennings yet?? He may become the best in the business...he may become a very good pro (already is). But right here right now....he doesn't belong in the same breath as fitz/TO/moss/Boldin

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Maybe its you who is the typical over thinker of your own team. You feel "smarter" because you talk down about players that obvious homers are in love with. I'd take Jennings any day over Reggie Brown and Isaac Bruce. Not Bruce circa 1999, but Bruce today.

I said i love Jennings. I put him in the second tier.

I didn't say i'm smarter, i'm just more objective. Just like when the talk was that we had the deepest WR core in the NFL. That is just plain ridiculous.

You are welcome to your opinion.

But, the facts are the facts. Bruce's #s are comparable to jennings..with a far worse team and JT throwing the ball. Put bruce with Favre or Arod. I think we see the same results.

Brown: Again, different system. Different role.

[Bossman641]

Bossman,

Brown has been injured...but, he has 10 catches for 163 yards...that is in 2 games.

I coulda added others. Have you looked at Bruce's numbers. Considering who is tossing him the ball...19 yard average and 5 tds.

Should i put DeSean Jackson up as well. Or Kevin Curtis.

Reggie Brown hasn't been a top or even second tier WR. Isaac Bruce? He of 303 yards and 4 TD's? He was a top WR about 8 years ago.

Let's get serious Ty.

Reggie Brown certainly has been a 2nd tier. Remember who was tossing the ball and their health issues. Remember they have more receivers and toss the ball their rbs more than us. You can't penalize a guy because of the system they play in.

But, if you dont' want to put him there..then, how on earth can you put jennings based on his past production. 45 and 53 receptions. No 1000 yards. Yes, he did have 12 tds last year.

Brown had 46 and 61 receptions. He had 8 tds in his best year and 17.7 ypc. Which pretty much mirrors Jennings..cept for 4 less tds.

Bruce: Yeah, i guess having JT toss you the ball wouldn't affect you. But, I guess Bruce having essentially the same ypc, as many tds with far less receptions and having a longer td reception wouldn't count. Or the fact that he is the #1 receiver on the Niners.

As for his past..you dont' know what you are talking about. I guess 55 receptions and 74 the previous year really puts him outside the second tier...with a new system/coach and team that is falling apart. :oops:

You are like most packer fans..you overrate your own players while underrating the rest of the league.

I don't overrate players, I look at it fairly. I am 100% positive you wouldn't find a single GM in the league willing to give up Jennings for Reggie Brown.

You point to Reggie Brown and say his numbers aren't as good cause of Westbrook. It works the opposite way as well. D coordinators spend so much time worrying about Westbrook that Brown gets plenty of chances. He simply isn't that good. He disappears for stretches.

I like how you conveniently left out how Brown got his 416 rec, 816 yards, and 8 TD's in 16 (15 started) games while Jennings got his 53 rec, 920 yards, and 12 TD in 13 games. :oops:

Bruce is a decent player, but he is nowhere near Jennings anymore. He isn't as capable of breaking the big play and isn't as big a TD threat (4 in 08, 4 in 07, 3 in 06, 3 in 05, 6 in 04) as Jennings is. BTW, Bruce's long rec on the year is 63 yards, Jennings is 62. That's your proof?

[SnakeLH2006]

I would take...

Calvin Johnson
TO
Randy Moss
Larry Fitz

over him

Damn...I'd say top tier.

Bitch made antics aside Owens is a better by a bit yet talent wise. Randy is slipping this year, Ocho Cinco is Puto Chicata, and Fitz is damn good as I'll give him a pass being a more talented (physical skills) WR, yet what the hell has Calvin done other than drop balls?

Jennings NEVER gets caught despite his knock on speed coming out. He's a football speed burner and leaves NOTHING on the table. He a Hungry Man and cleans up the scraps. Wouldn't fight him for biscuit fo sho!

Who would I trade Jennings for?? Prob. no one as Fitz is a push and Randy is getting old, and TO is way old. As far as talent now...only Fitz and TO are better IMHO.

Show the man his money as it'll take at least 5 years and 50 now with that loser Roy Williams getting 5 and 45..WTF has he done with Det? Cowgirls got faahhhhhh-llleeeeeeced! :lol: