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sheepshead
10-31-2008, 10:02 AM
Some things I have been saying for months:


Even the Hillary non-selection.

What you were never intended to know in this election

A Hillary staffer comes clean

Posted by: Anonymous_14

Thursday, October 30, 2008 at 04:52PM CDT

22 Comments

After a long and careful consideration of all the implications and possible
consequences of my actions today, I have decided to go through with this in the
hope that our country can indeed be guided into the right direction. First, a
little personal background… I am a female grad student in my 20’s, and a
registered Democrat. During the primaries, I was a campaign worker for the
Clinton candidacy. I believed in her and still do, staying all the way to the
bitter end. And believe me, it was bitter. The snippets you’ve heard from
various media outlets only grazed the surface. There was no love between the
Clinton and Obama campaigns, and these feelings extended all the way to the top.
Hillary was no dope though, and knew that any endorsement of Obama must appear
to be a full-fledged one. She did this out of political survival. As a part of his overall effort to extend an olive
branch to the Clinton camp and her supporters, Obama took on a few Hillary staff
members into his campaign.
I was one such worker. Though I was still bitterly loyal to Hillary, I still
held out hope that he would choose her as VP. In fact, there was a consensus
among us transplants that in the end, he HAD to choose her. It was the only
logical choice. I also was committed to the Democratic cause and without much of
a second thought, transferred my allegiance to Senator Obama.

I’m going to let you in on a few secrets here, and this is not because I enjoy
the gossip or the attention directed my way. I’m doing this because I doubt much
of you know the true weaknesses of Obama. Another reason for my doing this is
that I am lost faith in this campaign, and feel that this choice has been forced
on many people in this country. Put simply, you are being manipulated. That was
and is our job – to manipulate you (the electorate) and the media (we already had them months ago). Our goal is to create chaos with the other
side, not hope. I’ve come to the realization (as the campaign already has) that
if this comes to the issues, Barack Obama doesn’t have a chance. His only chance
is to foster disorganization, chaos, despair, and a sense of inevitability among
the Republicans. It has worked up until now. Joe the Plumber has put the focus
on the issues again, and this scares us more than anything. Being in a position
to know these things, I will rate what the Obama camp
aign already knows are their weak links from the most important on down.

1 – Hillary voters. Internal polling suggests that at best, we are taking 70-75%
of these voters. Other estimates are as low as 60% in some areas – particularly
Ohio and western PA. My biggest problem with this campaign’s strategy was the
decision NOT to offer Hillary the VP slot. She was ready and able to take this
on, and would have campaigned enthusiastically for it. This selection would have
also brought virtually all of her supporters into the fold, and the Obama campaign knew it.
Though I have no way of knowing this for certain, and I do admit that I am
relying on internal gossip, Senator Obama actually went against the advice of
his top advisors. They wanted him to choose her, but the only significant
opposition to this within the campaign came from Barack and Michelle Obama. In
short, he let personal feelings take precedence over what was the most logical
thing to do. Biden, by the way, has been a disaster inside the campaign.
Everyone cringes whenever he gives an interview
, and he creates so many headaches as the campaign has to stay on their toes in
order to disseminate information and spin whatever it was he was trying to say.

2 – Sarah Palin. Don’t believe what the media is telling you about how horrible
a choice she was. Again, our internal polling suggest that though she has had a
minimal impact on pulling disaffected Hillary Democrats to McCain, she has done
wonders in mobilizing the base for McCain. Another thing – we were completely taken by surprise with her pick. In
my capacity in the research department, I looked into the backgrounds of
Leiberman, Romney, Pawlenty and Ridge, and prepared briefs. I don’t mind
bragging that we had pretty good stuff on all of them. With Leiberman, the plan
was to paint him as an erratic old-timer who didn’t have a clue as to what he
was doing (pretty much a clone of McCain). In Romney, we had him pegged as an
evil capitalist who cut jobs. Pawlenty was going to get the “Quayle treatment”,
or more precisely: a pretty face, with no valid experience. Tom Ridge was going
to be used to provide a direct link from McCain to Bush. As you can see, we were
quite enamored of a
ll of them. Then the unexpected happened – Sarah Palin. We had no clue as to how
to handle her, and bungled it from the start. Though through our misinformation
networks, we have successfully taken some of the shine off. But let there be no
doubt. She remains a major obstacle. She has singlehanded solidified “soft” Republican support, mobilized the McCain ground game, and has
even had some appeal to independents and Hillary voters. This is what our
internal polling confirms.

3 – Obama’s radical connections. Standards operating procedure has been to cry
“racism” whenever one of these has been brought up. We even have a detailed
strategy ready to go should McCain ever bring Rev. Wright up. Though by
themselves they are of minimal worth, taken together, Rev. Wright, Bill Ayers,
Father Pfelger, and now, Rashid Khalili, are exactly what the campaign does not
need. The more focus on them, the more this election becomes a referendum on
Obama. The campaign strategy from the very beginning was to make this election a
referendum on Bush. Strategists have been banging their head on how successfully
McCain has distanced himself from Bush. This has worked, and right now the tide
is in his favor. People are taking a new look at Barack Obama, and our
experience when this happens tells us this is not good news at all. When they take a look at him, one or more of these names are bound to be
brought up. McCain has wisely not harped on this in recent weeks and let voters
decide for themselves. This was a trap we set for him, and he never fully took
the bait. Senator Obama openly dared him to bring up Ayers. This was not due to
machismo on the part of Obama, but actually due to campaign strategy. Though
McCain’s reference to Ayers fell flat in the last debate, people in the Obama
campaign were actually disappointed that he didn’t follow through on it more and
getting into it. Our focus groups found this out: When McCain brings these
connections up, voters are turned off to him. They’d rather take this into
consideration themselves, and when this happens, our numbers begin to tank.

4 – The Bradley Effect. Don’t believe these polls for a second. I just went over
our numbers and found that we have next to no chance in the following states:
Missouri, Indiana, North Carolina, Florida, New Hampshire and Nevada. Ohio leans
heavily to McCain, but is too close to call it for him. Virginia, Pennsylvania,
Colorado, New Mexico and Iowa are the true “toss up states”. The only two of
these the campaign feels “confident” in are Iowa and New Mexico. The reason for
such polling discrepancy is the Bradley Effect, and this is a subject of much
discussion in the campaign. In general, we tend to take a -10 point percentage
in allowing for this, and are not comfortable until the polls give us a spread
well over this mark. This is why we are still campaigning in Virginia and
Pennsylvania! This is why Ohio is such a desperate hope for us! What truly
bothers this campaign is the fact that some pollsters get up to an 80% “refuse
to respond” result. You can’t possibly include these in
to the polls. The truth is, people are afraid to let people know who they are
voting for. The vast majority of these respondents are McCain supporters. Obama
is the “hip” choice, and we all know it.

As part of my research duties, I scour right wing blogs and websites to get somewhat of a “feel” as to what is being talked about on the other
side. Much of it is nonsense, but there are some exceptions which give the
campaign jitters. A spirited campaign has been made to infiltrate many
pro-Hillary sites and discredit them. A more disorganized, but genuine effort
has also been made to sow doubts among the unapologetically right wing sites
such as redstate.com. Don’t you guys get it? This has been the Obama campaign’s
sole strategy from the very beginning! The only way he wins is over a
dispirited, disorganized, and demobilized opposition. This is how it has been
for all of his campaigns. What surprises me is that everyone has fallen for it.
You may point to the polls as proof of the inevitability of all of this. If so,
you have fallen for the oldest trick in the book. How did we skew these polls,
you might ask? It all starts with the media “buzz” which has been generated over
the
campaign. Many stories are generated on the powerful Obama ground game, and how
many new voters were registered. None of this happens by coincidence. It is all part of the
poll-skewing process. This makes pollsters change their mixes to reflect these
new voters and tilt the mix more towards Democratic voters. What is not
mentioned or reported on is not the “under-reported cell phone users or young
voters” we hear so much about. What is underreported is you.

I changed my somewhat positive opinion of this campaign during the unfair and
sexist campaign against Sarah Palin. I will never agree with her on the issues
and will probably never vote for her, but I am embarrassed of what has happened.
I can’t ignore our own hand in all of this. What I do know is that I will not be
voting for Obama this time around. Treat that as you will.

LL2
10-31-2008, 10:12 AM
Very interesting. I suspect there is a lot of misinformation out there and stuff the Obama camp doesn't want people to know.

I think the surge in voters is in part because the African-American voters want their guy as president, but then you have a huge segment of the population saying "Hell no!" to Obama. Tuesday will be a very interesting day.

packinpatland
10-31-2008, 11:33 AM
"I’m going to let you in on a few secrets here, and this is not because I enjoy
the gossip or the attention directed my way."


Yet......it was Posted by: Anonymous_14

mraynrand
10-31-2008, 11:50 AM
"What truly bothers this campaign is the fact that some pollsters get up to an 80% “refuse to respond” result."

I wonder how close to the real number this is. I always refuse to respond, and so do most of the people I know, which includes liberals. So I wonder if the number is correct (suspect it is) and wonder if it is skewed toward dem or repub (have no idea).

ThunderDan
10-31-2008, 12:18 PM
"I’m going to let you in on a few secrets here, and this is not because I enjoy
the gossip or the attention directed my way."


Yet......it was Posted by: Anonymous_14

Damn... you beat me to it. That person who was so courageous to stand up and tell the truth about Obama signs as Anonymous_14.

Please, you think a Republican supporter didn't write that.

sheepshead
10-31-2008, 12:50 PM
"I’m going to let you in on a few secrets here, and this is not because I enjoy
the gossip or the attention directed my way."


Yet......it was Posted by: Anonymous_14

Damn... you beat me to it. That person who was so courageous to stand up and tell the truth about Obama signs as Anonymous_14.

Please, you think a Republican supporter didn't write that.

I guess time will tell wont it. This has points I have made for months (Barry needs to be ahead by 10 points or more to be even, Michelle nixed the Hillary pick)

With Barry campaigning in Iowa even he looks to be concerned. So much here just fits, especially when you look at Barry the way most of us do, unelectable in the general election.

Zool
10-31-2008, 12:52 PM
http://www.eworldwire.com/mediauploads/Maverick_Wireless.jpg

mraynrand
10-31-2008, 01:08 PM
"I’m going to let you in on a few secrets here, and this is not because I enjoy
the gossip or the attention directed my way."


Yet......it was Posted by: Anonymous_14

Damn... you beat me to it. That person who was so courageous to stand up and tell the truth about Obama signs as Anonymous_14.

Please, you think a Republican supporter didn't write that.

NOW you're skeptical. But when a 'McCain adviser' says that McCain calls Sarah Palin a diva, you guys are panting like dogs.

Plus, you're not too bright, either. If she says she doesn't want attention and gossip directed at her, then anonymous is the right way to go, correct.

Who knows, this is probably a fraud, but it certainly puts on display the twisting standards of lefties.

Your intellectual dishonesty has been noted.

sheepshead
10-31-2008, 01:18 PM
I was thinking. What would the motivation be for someone on the right to write something like this so accurately (seemingly) and passionately?

ThunderDan
10-31-2008, 02:15 PM
"I’m going to let you in on a few secrets here, and this is not because I enjoy
the gossip or the attention directed my way."


Yet......it was Posted by: Anonymous_14

Damn... you beat me to it. That person who was so courageous to stand up and tell the truth about Obama signs as Anonymous_14.

Please, you think a Republican supporter didn't write that.

NOW you're skeptical. But when a 'McCain adviser' says that McCain calls Sarah Palin a diva, you guys are panting like dogs.

Plus, you're not too bright, either. If she says she doesn't want attention and gossip directed at her, then anonymous is the right way to go, correct.

Who knows, this is probably a fraud, but it certainly puts on display the twisting standards of lefties.

Your intellectual dishonesty has been noted.

When was I panting like a dog over the diva comment? CNN reported that,

If she really was credible why didn't she go to FOX News instead of sending out a anonymous mass e-mailing? She didn't want attention? If she really didn't want attention she wouldn't have said anything. She would obviously know that sending something out like this would generate attenetion especially 4 or 5 days before the election.

Also your parroting of the, Your intellectual dishonesty has been noted. is getting old and stale. Try for some originality and not after you get called on it. Becasue then it isn't original.

mraynrand
10-31-2008, 02:18 PM
I said you guys - that's plural, and was a blanket statement to cover the lefties. Again, I stated that the thing looked bogus, but the DIFFERENCE in the REACTION to it, and the McCain Diva incident by lefties is what I find amusing and pathetic.

Your intellectual dishonesty has been noted.

Freak Out
10-31-2008, 02:29 PM
This thing is still way to close to call....someone mentioned a 10 point lead in the polls is what Obama needs to win and that's as good a guess as any. I would like to believe that Hillary die hards would still vote for Obama on election day but you never know in politics. The bitterness of her not getting the VP position is still there I'm sure but the Clintons are working pretty hard right now to get the Dems candidate into office.

ThunderDan
10-31-2008, 02:30 PM
I said you guys - that's plural, and was a blanket statement to cover the lefties. Again, I stated that the thing looked bogus, but the DIFFERENCE in the REACTION to it, and the McCain Diva incident by lefties is what I find amusing and pathetic.

Your intellectual dishonesty has been noted.

So you think there is absolutely no difference in standards in what CNN or Fox News reports verses an anonymous e-mail?

As a "lefties" I didn't go ape shit over the Palin diva annoucement. This is exactly why name calling and labeling is harmful to our society. While some people with liberal leanings were happy I wasn't, It's just another distraction away from the issues in the campaign. The real reasons to vote for a canidate.

mraynrand
10-31-2008, 02:38 PM
I said you guys - that's plural, and was a blanket statement to cover the lefties. Again, I stated that the thing looked bogus, but the DIFFERENCE in the REACTION to it, and the McCain Diva incident by lefties is what I find amusing and pathetic.

Your intellectual dishonesty has been noted.

So you think there is absolutely no difference in standards in what CNN or Fox News reports verses an anonymous e-mail?

As a "lefties" I didn't go ape shit over the Palin diva annoucement. This is exactly why name calling and labeling is harmful to our society. While some people with liberal leanings were happy I wasn't, It's just another distraction away from the issues in the campaign. The real reasons to vote for a canidate.

The McCain Advisers were 'anonymous.' Fox reported on CNN's report. CNN's intellectual dishonesty has been noted.

texaspackerbacker
10-31-2008, 03:01 PM
All of this sounds totally believable.

However, I have to share the skepticism of our forum lefties here. It's just too convenient. It's exactly what I'd right if I was pretending to be what the author claims to be. "Anonymous" indeed does diminish credibility.

It won't take very long, though, until we have all the answers--or at least the results.

For those of us clinging to very slim hopes at this point, this article is sweet music. Is it true? I don't know, but we on the side of goodness and light don't have much choice but to believe/hope that it is.

mraynrand
10-31-2008, 03:09 PM
All of this sounds totally believable.

However, I have to share the skepticism of our forum lefties here. It's just too convenient. It's exactly what I'd right if I was pretending to be what the author claims to be. "Anonymous" indeed does diminish credibility.

It won't take very long, though, until we have all the answers--or at least the results.

For those of us clinging to very slim hopes at this point, this article is sweet music. Is it true? I don't know, but we on the side of goodness and light don't have much choice but to believe/hope that it is.

Especially when Obama says "We are just days away from fundamentally changing America" Jiminy Chistmas!

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2007/writers/classic_nfl/09/10/bucs/buccaneers.jpg

wist43
10-31-2008, 03:16 PM
Ironically, I'm starting a good job on Monday, the day b/4 the election...

Assuming Obama is elected, I can only hope and pray I still have a job four years from now. As a 45 year old white guy, I'm sure to be defined as "rich".

Tyrone Bigguns
10-31-2008, 03:50 PM
Great joke Sheep!! How long did it take you to write it?

Cheesehead Craig
10-31-2008, 03:51 PM
Ironically, I'm starting a good job on Monday, the day b/4 the election...

Assuming Obama is elected, I can only hope and pray I still have a job four years from now. As a 45 year old white guy, I'm sure to be defined as "rich".
Congrats on the new job Wist!

bobblehead
10-31-2008, 11:54 PM
"I’m going to let you in on a few secrets here, and this is not because I enjoy
the gossip or the attention directed my way."


Yet......it was Posted by: Anonymous_14

Damn... you beat me to it. That person who was so courageous to stand up and tell the truth about Obama signs as Anonymous_14.

Please, you think a Republican supporter didn't write that.

for once I agree with 2 libs....this was all crap written by a republican just like the old....I was going to vote for mccain but not now liberals.

If it was true she gave too much info and her identity could easily be pegged.

bobblehead
10-31-2008, 11:57 PM
I said you guys - that's plural, and was a blanket statement to cover the lefties. Again, I stated that the thing looked bogus, but the DIFFERENCE in the REACTION to it, and the McCain Diva incident by lefties is what I find amusing and pathetic.

Your intellectual dishonesty has been noted.

So you think there is absolutely no difference in standards in what CNN or Fox News reports verses an anonymous e-mail?

As a "lefties" I didn't go ape shit over the Palin diva annoucement. This is exactly why name calling and labeling is harmful to our society. While some people with liberal leanings were happy I wasn't, It's just another distraction away from the issues in the campaign. The real reasons to vote for a canidate.

If you are a liberal you should WANT distractions from the issues....you can't win on the actual issues.

HowardRoark
11-01-2008, 07:18 AM
If you are a liberal you should WANT distractions from the issues....you can't win on the actual issues.

Ordinarily, I would agree with you. But something seems different this time. They are waking up the sheep; they’ve got those dogs (ACORN) that run around and gather them up. Obama seems OK with telling it like it is……”we will change the “economic philosophy” of America”….”in a few days we will change America.”

mraynrand
11-01-2008, 08:08 AM
I believe the quote was ""in five days we will fundamentally change the United States"

Sorry, the exact quote is: “We are five days Away From Fundamentally Transforming The United States of America”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cqN4NIEtOY

falco
11-01-2008, 08:38 AM
who gives a shit, who gives a damn

http://www.bancroftpress.com/images/photo_walker.jpg

MJZiggy
11-01-2008, 10:51 AM
I was reading the jokes from last night's late night shows and my favorite (probably for the whole week) was last night one of the hosts mentioned we needed to turn our clocks back an hour. Damn that means an extra hour before this stupid election is over.

LL2
11-01-2008, 10:57 AM
I was reading the jokes from last night's late night shows and my favorite (probably for the whole week) was last night one of the hosts mentioned we needed to turn our clocks back an hour. Damn that means an extra hour before this stupid election is over.

Ok Ziggy...I will agree with you on that one. I will need to take a break from the news after the election

sheepshead
11-01-2008, 03:56 PM
McCain - Palin up be one.

Keep in mind, the only polls that will EVER be close are the ones this week. They all want to be correct when the picture is taken.